Every Team gets Promoted or Relegated
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Жыл бұрынWelcome to TomFM! In today's Football Manager 2023 experiment video Every team gets promoted or relegated in the English Football League, causing absolute chaos in FM23.
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@bababababababa6124 Жыл бұрын
MK Dons getting relegated from the National League is pretty much how I expect their next few years to be 😂
@gui18bif Жыл бұрын
Let's hope
@huntungriffle8121 Жыл бұрын
Up the fucking dons
@archiesmith6023 Жыл бұрын
i hope not mate
@AtomicSpino Жыл бұрын
Im a dons fan and we had a dreadful season, literally last season we got third then we place 21st? They're not fit to wear the shirt
@core_russell3869 11 ай бұрын
@@AtomicSpinoas a Newport County fan, it's the same here, we were in the play offs the other year and now we're crap
@neffersonjickel3901 Жыл бұрын
This was an interesting experiment! I'd love to see one where the English pyramid gets 0 points for a win, 1 point for a draw, and 3 points for a loss. The worst teams would rise to the top, get Prem/European money, get better and then start getting less points. Cups, Europe, and Internationals would stay the same as they are in real life.
@Sirjohnfootball Жыл бұрын
What a f*cking stupid idea
@NathanHeaver Жыл бұрын
Yes that will be fun
@TomFM Жыл бұрын
Great idea!
@timokarff6162 Жыл бұрын
@@TomFM Based on that: What would happen if a win and a draw both get you 2 points, and 1 point for a loss?
@Will_Flatt Жыл бұрын
@@TomFM come on Tom we should do it
@M4tth3wH1 Жыл бұрын
As a Leicester fan seeing this after we actually got relegated irl, watching us finishing 6th in this is just so painful 😂😭
@TomFM Жыл бұрын
Maybe you'll manager 6th in the Championship next season? 😂
@M4tth3wH1 Жыл бұрын
@TomFM maybe haha. Got to get the recruitment right on and and off the field before we start thinking about getting back up. Great video btw, keep up the good work 👍
@Koeienmelker09 Жыл бұрын
Fulham did very well, 3 Europa League's, 2 Champions league finals and 1 conference league Final. (This was nice to see as a Fulham fan)
@DefensorLF Жыл бұрын
Tom what if you made it so top 5 euro league teams had to play with south american nation rules (for example, all english clubs get put into brasil , having to play with brazil's selection rules and calendar, spain into argentina's calendar, italy into chile ect) and the other way around (brazil teams into the prem, argentinian in la liga)
@BuckledFrame2187 Жыл бұрын
That would be sick.
@kaironogueira5604 Жыл бұрын
Super!
@christianlenik5307 Жыл бұрын
Phew Sevilla, Eintracht, etc. Vs Al Ahly, Zamalek
@Theepicgolem123 Жыл бұрын
6:39 i cant imagine the amount of cleaning that spurs did to that dusty trophy cabinet to fit in those league cup trophies
@liamthomas9622 Жыл бұрын
I'd love to see the English leagues have the "Belgian playoffs" and see if that affects what happens up and down the leagues
@fabianbailey488 Жыл бұрын
UP THE BROMLEY BOYS 🎉🎉🎉
@bababababababa6124 Жыл бұрын
2nd best club in London (after the mighty hammers ⚒)
@Dutchintheheart Жыл бұрын
No
@ZvenoGaming Жыл бұрын
@@Dutchintheheart yes
@jakedavies5899 Жыл бұрын
Hereford on top
@loganclark1206 Ай бұрын
Just got promoted into the Efl through playoffs
@zHawkC Жыл бұрын
The strangest thing about this is how consistently low the goal difference is. Would expect the prem teams that stay top 8 to all have massive GD vs the yoyo teams. Also saw some league winners with only +20 GD which seems really odd
@erethjallsen8819 Жыл бұрын
You’ve been killing it with the cool ideas recently! Love it Tom!
@daansaras138 Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom, I like the idea and I'm curious how the teams in The Netherlands will do. Do you have a shortcut how to easily change the competition rules? Thanks in advance!
@OzgurOri Жыл бұрын
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@core_russell3869 Жыл бұрын
This needs more attention because I need to know now
@bensquires2819 Жыл бұрын
Missed Newport County being stuck in the conference and Southend going up.
@Noname-uo2oz Жыл бұрын
Really loving the videos for a while now Tom, you deserve the 100k🔥
@gumpastee Жыл бұрын
This is a really good idea. I'm impressed by your originality
@GYFC420 Жыл бұрын
Idea:in the first szn only 1 team gets relegated but 1 more team gets relegated every season until every team goes down except for 1st place and then they would win
@stephenfrankland485 Жыл бұрын
love to see this as just the top and bottom 10 change, leave a few open spots for maintaining league
@gracielynn9623 Жыл бұрын
I love to see you make a video about what if you replaced the bottom eight English championship sides with the top 8 USL championship sides from last season. Could be quite interesting.
@TheKoesti123 Жыл бұрын
Can you change the qualification spots for Europe? What if all second leagues of a nation (so Championship, Ligue 2, Serie B, Bundesliga 2, ...) get all the qualification spots for Europe?
@villabear Жыл бұрын
Fairly new subscriber here. Love the content. I’d like to see a completely random football league. All 92 sides get randomised into their league. Probably a lot of work but interesting to see how quick sides drop and the cream rises to the top.
@Fizzydog77 Жыл бұрын
This would actually be really cool, I second this!!
@vangoal172 Жыл бұрын
Tom thank you very much, your content is really cool, sending you love from Tunisia 🖤
@TomFM Жыл бұрын
Glad you enjoy it! Love to Tunisia!
@joshualiley Жыл бұрын
I think it would be more interesting with an 8 up, 8 stay, 8 down model so that teams could get a foothold and have the chance to spring up without having a massive dwarf in class all in 1 go
@guismodrum78 Жыл бұрын
Very entertaining, thank you Tom
@Bcfc2011 5 ай бұрын
At the start when he said it’s not looking good for the blues I’m like ugh cuz that’s my team and FRANK LAMPARD OH HELL NAH luckily we got prometed back up
@Ant_FM Жыл бұрын
Get in! Stoke won the conference league 😊 that has made my day! If only if it came true. Brilliant video Tom that was a great one.
@SpoopyGamer Жыл бұрын
FA Cup "nobody out the ordinary won it" Bruh, a small team like Everton won it twice
@senanjackson3364 Жыл бұрын
Since when are Everton small?
@SpoopyGamer Жыл бұрын
@@senanjackson3364 Always were, Always will be
@senanjackson3364 Жыл бұрын
@DomRawR ah well that definitely isn't true, they're a big team. Big team doesn't just mean the likes of Man Utd and Liverpool, sue even Newcastle are big
@rogercrane1767 Жыл бұрын
Must have started watching in the last decade, or joking. everton are historically massive
@SpoopyGamer Жыл бұрын
🎣🎣🎣🎣🎣
@Rugby0nTop 6 ай бұрын
I love how Burnley just did not change the entire video
@ah_effe Жыл бұрын
You should do a save with reversed prize money in the top 5 leagues and europe too. (Like 1st in england get the least amount of money)
@user-iw4ue8zz1n 5 ай бұрын
I loved that my club (Bath City) did appear in this video 3 times 😊
@aaronroberts291 Жыл бұрын
Do a rebuild of Newport County from their European stints in the 80’s. Every video nowadays they go from L2 to the 7th tier and would be good to see them succeed
@flak509 Жыл бұрын
CHAOS! I love it Tom 😂😂
@MNFM21 Жыл бұрын
thanks for doing my suggestion xD
@samtyler689 Жыл бұрын
59 year old be celebrating a European trophy in Portugal would be nice! (Also just nice to see Charlton doing well in a save, we’re usually rubbish!)
@crowreligion Жыл бұрын
Lets expriment this Win - 3 points Draw - 1 point AND add 0.1 to k unless k is 2. k is 0.5 when each season starts. k has a minimum limit of 0.5 and maximum limit of 2.0 Lose - all your points that you have currently collected gets k times itself. Also, if k isnt 0.5, reduce 0.1 from k. Additionally, to get more draws, there is no overtime.
@christianlenik5307 Жыл бұрын
0:08 "ELITE" Lincoln 😂
@TomFM Жыл бұрын
Got to represent
@christianlenik5307 Жыл бұрын
@@TomFM On My Manager Savegame, Lincoln won the FA-Cup... ...while being relegated to National League...
@EuanBCFC Жыл бұрын
6:24 I mean, Yeovil have literally done exactly the same as Scunthorpe irl, but in a shorter time period
@Ted_RBLXoff Жыл бұрын
You should try a reverse table. 20th win the title 20-17th all get Champions League 16-15th Europa and 14th Conference. Those in 1st, 2nd and 3rd all get relegated.
@mhdk677 Жыл бұрын
10:20 what's the background song? Sounds so much like a Danish song. Have tried looking up if it's a sample but can't find anything
@frog605 Жыл бұрын
hi tom, good vid. can you rank all of the FM games that you have played
@jamesminor8576 Жыл бұрын
That 2026 League One season was MAD!!!
@cameronlinley96 Жыл бұрын
"Wrexham seem to be the biggest Yo-Yo club of all time" THEY ARE ALL YO-YO CLUBS TOM
@TomFM Жыл бұрын
You make a good point...
@BhlackBishop Жыл бұрын
The top prem clubs probably poached all the good players that got relegated hence getting stronger and stronger every season. That sweet first division money must be well shared across the country by now.
@englishdragon88 Жыл бұрын
I’ve only recently discovered your KZfaq channel and I’m already a big fan of it I was just wondering how you’re doing videos like this? Is it from the steam workshop? If not where? I currently play FM23 and I’ve got the English league to the combined county leagues I can’t remember what step that is on the football pyramid but I’m going through that I’d love to play through the game with your mods that you have showcased and would like to know where you get the mods
@S1NON54 Жыл бұрын
he is using in-game editor, than he just simulates seasons and makes saves to check them in the video
@lewiswoods2012 Жыл бұрын
PLEASE HELP ME, where in the pregame editor can you chnage the promotion and relegation spots i have looked in keague standings etc but cannot find it anywhere
@caseyjennett7446 Жыл бұрын
Interesting one for you. The most successful team in the European competitions each season get relegated to the national league (or equivalent). Should spring some interesting results me thinks
@GenericZac Жыл бұрын
Doing this experiment with all ten tiers of English football would be mayhem
@danmoody8244 Жыл бұрын
Interesting concept would love to play this as mod in fm
@72Reiss Жыл бұрын
Love that experiment!
@Billymortzz 10 ай бұрын
Need to redo this but with every single league in England, would be very interestint
@waveringvermin2102 Жыл бұрын
York promoted to league 1, all we have to do is wait until 2062 and hope someone in the FA has an aneurysm and implements these rules. The dream is alive…
@copious983 Жыл бұрын
I think if you had a prom/rel play-off between the leagues it might have looked very different
@ellibod1 Жыл бұрын
Is this available on the steam workshop? The all team’s promoted or relegated thing
@nickysturzu Жыл бұрын
Maybe you can create an experiment like the Super League, but with promotion and relegation, like Super League A, Super League B and so on...
@GingerTwat1 Жыл бұрын
I just subbed (at 99k) reloaded and you were then at 100k 👍👍
@GingerTwat1 Жыл бұрын
Also you hit 100k
@brentton2 Жыл бұрын
2:05 you’re wrong there as Halifax Town, Bromley and Southend United got promoted instead of Stevenage, Harrogate Town and Newport County
@nhantnt Жыл бұрын
1:46 LOL Also Gillingham is one of my favorite teams, it's great to see them in the Championship, then the National League, then the National League again, to League One, to League Two. Never a premier league though ;-; And as a red, it's funny how Man Utd was relegated in their first season :V
@llSuperSnivyll Жыл бұрын
6:22 It could be worse, such as getting relegated anyways when there are only 4 relegated teams.
@andylindress Жыл бұрын
How do you do this Tom in the editor? Have you got a video you can share or a link?
@S1NON54 Жыл бұрын
West Ham after being relegated to championship and promoted to Premier league every year: I`m movin up and down, side to side like rollercoaster
@harrytmm Жыл бұрын
someone needs to make a datatbase of this
@ryancheung2399 Жыл бұрын
What a great experiment. Curious to know how many managers got sacked because of the relegation
@nadzmipaktam Жыл бұрын
Hi Tom. I have an idea. You can build a league with the all champions team from UEFA Coefficient ranking 1 to 20. You also can do vice versa by using last place team to see who's team the worst 😂.
@samuelmarron5875 6 ай бұрын
Middlesbrough actually came 7th in the 2004/05 season to qualify for Europe the second time around…
@JayStanTheMan Жыл бұрын
What if you moved the MLS, the entire league, to England and placed it right in between the Championship and League One? MLS teams could be promoted to the Championship or relegated to Leauge One and I’d be very curious to see where they ended up after 50 years!
@jacobthompson5697 Жыл бұрын
You should do every team is in the promotion playoffs next
@cundsmobile4540 Жыл бұрын
I have a idea give a random no legue team man citys team and see how long it takes them to get promoted or if the players leave before they get to a champions league
@YTVossy Жыл бұрын
You should turn the money around. So national league teams are earning premier league money and vise versa but for all the divisions.
@nazgulcanellas3047 Жыл бұрын
How you did it? I have the editor and i don't see this type of options
@austinberwick4927 Жыл бұрын
watford loved coming 9th in the premier league
@oscarscadds36 Жыл бұрын
Weymouth (my local club) got to league one lol like that’s ever going to happen ever
@BigD4ddy4G Жыл бұрын
MK Dons in 2062 getting relegated from the National League 👌🏻
@MOONPSLA Ай бұрын
South Shields is where I am from!!
@John-hh8lq Жыл бұрын
SUGGESTION #1: Is there a way to change the game where the team get the amount of points per how many goals they get in a match? e.g. Arsenal 5 - 3 Spurs... Arsenal get the 5 points (obviously) but Spurs would still get 3 points although they lost? SUGGESTION #2: Start all teams in all the divisions in alphabetical order or TOTALLY randomise all teams in all the leagues and see where they end up over 50/100 years? SUGGESTION #3: Incorporate a Draft system like the USA do in NFL where the best players are picked from a list?
@Trollolmen Жыл бұрын
Hey Tom, the experiment was really interesting! We would like to try this with a friend, would you have a link to download the database ? Thank you in advance
@noddyjoe Жыл бұрын
Ah yes, Tranmere fan here - seems we dropped out of existence entirely!
@emmadestcroix9079 Жыл бұрын
Up the blades
@jeffreyboggleton Жыл бұрын
9:26 LET'S GO WE IN PREM BOIS
@einarjuel Жыл бұрын
You've successfully simulated a two-party system
@mclark8857 Жыл бұрын
mental that in the first season Man United got relegated and qualified for the UCL at the same time
@gdparry2727 Жыл бұрын
Imagine if it went back to only champions go in champions league like the early 90s.
@davidarends668 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if any of those Conference League winners were playing in the Championship when they won
@NaNa_waffler 6 ай бұрын
Charlton in the prem and winning the conference league 🤩
@frankshaw6243 Жыл бұрын
Can you do a vlog at chesterfield vs Matlock
@GamingTimeNL Жыл бұрын
Do an experiment before the Bosman Arrest, so every team in Europe can only play 3 foreign players
@justzaxx7150 Жыл бұрын
Love seeing Gills get some love in a video
@TomFM Жыл бұрын
They had a superb start! Wouldn't be surprised to see them promoted next season irl!
@justzaxx7150 Жыл бұрын
@@TomFM As a Gills fan I hope so too, hopefully we can face Lincoln again next season!
@natashaabdu 10 ай бұрын
0:07 Bro actually put Lincoln at elite
@jonathanthompson2912 Жыл бұрын
How do you add extra promotion Nd relegation places
@noah45675 Жыл бұрын
would be more interesting if you focused on the prem/championship clubs
@CallumVloGamesCVG Жыл бұрын
You should do a relived bobby robson career and start him at ipswich
@dillon2493 Жыл бұрын
newport were actually the first team from league 2 to be stuck in the national league
@joshlucas4867 5 ай бұрын
Think this is the first fm video that morecambe have actually been mentioned…ofc not for a good reason
@Mr1nv1s1ble Жыл бұрын
Anyone else notice that at the end of the 2041 season, Newcastle went down but had a UCL spot? Did they win it and finish 10th?👀
@charlespickering1416 Жыл бұрын
Probably won the europa league
@Mr1nv1s1ble Жыл бұрын
@@charlespickering1416 I did also think this after posting 👍😆
@Mr1nv1s1ble Жыл бұрын
@@charlespickering1416 also, why can’t your name be Ronnie?😂🤣
@charlespickering1416 Жыл бұрын
@@Mr1nv1s1ble Ronnie has done so much damage to the Pickering name...
@Mr1nv1s1ble Жыл бұрын
@@charlespickering1416 who?
@archieplays03 Ай бұрын
Can you do a tutorial to simulate 100 years into the future?
@LordWay Жыл бұрын
Relegating Exeter is something i'm taking personally 🤣
@jameswg13 Жыл бұрын
Wonder what this did for manager hirings and firings every season
@Founder_YT Жыл бұрын
Swindon promoted to league 1 in every decade 😂
@austinberwick4927 Жыл бұрын
chaos meant to be
@thetrainhub390 Жыл бұрын
Is this a mod I can download on Steam?
@teresaweigel3611 Жыл бұрын
Ok here 🔥 🏆🙂🙏🏼
@mrchigago 11 ай бұрын
as a preston fan it hurts to see blackpool and blackburn achieving European glory whilst we yoyo between league 1 and the championship 😂
@svokxz6435 Жыл бұрын
Imagine this happened in real life.
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