Sage Dual Boiler vs Delonghi Dinamica Plus

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7 ай бұрын

In this video, we make a shot with the Sage Dual Boiler and Eureka Specialita, and make a Doppio shot on the Delonghi Dinamica Plus. The Doppio has about 14-15 grams, so I loaded 14.5 grams into the Sage Dual Boiler. I am using a darker roast from Lavazza, which has been quite toasted, making it, let's say, easier to extract.
Let's see how the superautomatic fairs against the Dual Boiler in this comparison. Spoiler alert: the Dinamica Plus can make what I'd consider a real espresso shot, but lacks some intensity, and maybe a little nuance in flavor to the Sage Dual Boiler, but it is nonetheless a respectable espresso.
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@abdallaalali6236 7 ай бұрын

I ordered one yesterday after seeing your reviews, Delonghi Dinamica Plus is what exactly I need, i don't like the process of making the coffee as i have a Breville machine in my office and it gets messy and takes time. the Delonghi Dinamica Plus is the best automatic machine I sew so far. thanks for the review.

@jonfury23 7 ай бұрын

Perfect for those that are not coffee enthusiast but still like milk based drinks. Just press the button and go

@Crazydragonman 7 ай бұрын

Great comparison Tom, yes indeed Delonghi does a great job,less mess and more coffees:)

@MrKKubinski 7 ай бұрын

Tom, when I firstly found your channel I mentioned that De Longhi Dinámica improved a lot vs other superautomatic. The grinder, tamping system, dual boiler, prebtewering all together make their espresso good enough I am glad you have found more or less the same.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

Does it have a dual heating system? I wouldn’t have noticed. But yes, you are right, it’s in a different league compared to the cheaper ECAM models. From a superficial standpoint, I wouldn’t have thought so. But it seems that I was wrong.

@spartan99947 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for the video. I have De'Longhi primadonna soul and it is doing great job specially with bean adapt technology

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

Does that machine change the grind setting for you?

@spartan99947 7 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCorner you choose Digitally and it change it automatically

@Albertojedi 7 ай бұрын

It seems like you read my mind. As always, very informative and right to the point. Lately, I've been considering upgrading to a Breville barista machine, but this DeLonghi superautomatic machines seems more versatile machines. Precisely yesterday I was at my local Best Buy and they had this beautiful Dinamica Plus on sale for $1,299.95 USD.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

Well, the Brevilles are more hands on, and you can practice the craft of making drinks. The Dinamica can also make tasty drinks, but there's not much human machine interaction. Have fun with your choice!

@alinaqirizvi1441 7 ай бұрын

A nice middle ground is the sage semi-auto machines with a touch display and everything that even tamps for you

@Albertojedi 7 ай бұрын

@@alinaqirizvi1441 The Breville/Sage BaristaTouch Impress was the one I was considering. I will keep consulting the pillow every night😅😅

@Nelsonrafaelhernande 6 ай бұрын

Where did you get it from?

@woweixiaomiandui Ай бұрын

Does the rivelia make as good espresso as the dinamica?

@jeet-Seattle 7 ай бұрын

expensive machines for me.. great video as always..

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

I know they're a bit expensive...but I have them, so I thought I'd compare them. Cheers!

@jorcco 7 ай бұрын

Great video Tom! What is the grind size you have the Dinamica Plus at?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

I set mine between 3 and 4 with fresh beans. If I go finer, I choke the machine, and it displays a message to coarsen the grind.

@petes_CE 7 ай бұрын

It would be interesting to see the workflow time difference between the two. Including all the prep work, it does seem the superauto may have an advantage against a dual boiler.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

Yes, I'll probably update this video with a full length one. But for me, the Dual Boiler is the nicest option, even if it is more work. I like the process. But I know many people just prefer a coffee without the work. cheers!

@petes_CE 7 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCornerI agree, I'd go with the BDB over a superauto any day!

@carlas747 4 ай бұрын

Great video as always! May I ask what Lavazza beans you used?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 4 ай бұрын

Cremoso. Thanks and cheers!

@ItaloMike84 7 ай бұрын

Thanks for this informative vid Tom! Not bad for a superautomatic to be honest! Do you know if there is difference between the grinders used inside the different Delonghi lines?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

That's a good question. I took a look at them today at the store: Magnifica, Dinamica, Prima Donna, Eletta - from my vantage point they seemed to be the same. But I am guessing there are some differences in them, because I can choke the Dinamica, but could never choke any Philips or Delonghi ECAM machine. This will require further investigation.

@a111z 7 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCornerisn’t the Dinamica also an ECAM model?

@a111z 7 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCornerperhaps you meant that ECAM is an improvement over ESAM? It seems that the newer DeLonghi models that are capable of a higher dose advertise a 19 bar maximum pressure rather than 15 bar (not that either of those specs are important, accurate, or ideal for espresso extraction, but it may be a way to compare models within the brand).

@atm8600 7 ай бұрын

please try the Jura machines

@JBScorpionship 6 ай бұрын

sorry...does anyone know if the quality of the coffee is the same as the De Longhi Rivelia? from the website it seems to have the same 19 bar pump... I ask because I like the Rivelia more from an aesthetic point of view

@j.t.1215 7 ай бұрын

❤Please compare against the Impress if possible. Happy Holidays❤

@kellydavis3108 7 ай бұрын

Tom can you recommend a coffee scale with timer that can fit underneath a Dedica Arte and still leave room for a shot?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

I like the MiiCoffee nano. The Timemore Black Mirror will also fit.

@sjhart1646 3 ай бұрын

Will you be doing a review of any newer De’longhi machines? Specifically like the De'Longhi Eletta. Thanks.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 3 ай бұрын

Eletta Explore is coming...just gotta spend some time with it. Maybe I'll do a live video with it, for the unboxing...

@janala69 7 ай бұрын

That’s very interesting and the difference is probably even smaller when you make a milk based drink?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

I find that you do notice a difference in shot intensity, even in milk based drinks, although the flavor is muted due to the milk.

@shafeel2066 7 ай бұрын

Hi Tom, have you used a delonghi prima donna? Interrsted to knoe your thoughts onit. Thanks!

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

Not yet, but maybe I'll try a Prima Donna soon enough. Cheers!

@Dimadxpac Ай бұрын

Hello Tom! Is the dinamica plus equal in performance to the dinamica? I have the base dinamica and it doesn’t seem to perform as good. My coffee doesn’t come out with a nice body, and the pucks come out half wet. Any tips? Thank you.

@SeeMeRoland 7 ай бұрын

Why did you use the grind for coffee instead of the grind for espresso setting on the Dinamca?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

You choose the drink, espresso OR coffee. Cheers!

@Thomas-fv5js 7 ай бұрын

Where do you order/buy so fresh Lavazza beans ??? And another question....on the sage dual boiler what is your pump pressure setting? how many seconds do you use for preinfusion??

@Coffeenator 7 ай бұрын

thats a point i wonder too. in all videos of Tom the crema is extraordinary. even best shots with very fresh beans (i tested more than 30 brands etc.) never got that much crema. is there a secret recipe from mr. krabs? i wonder if it has something to do with the used water (e.g. ingredients)???

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

Pre-infusion is set at 60% pump power. I hold it down for quite a while, I am thinking 10-15 seconds. I get fresh beans from Edeka sometimes. Gotta look at the package.

@Ginuwine-kx2iv 5 ай бұрын

Hey Tom, again thanks for the video you have greatly improved my espresso knowledge thank you. Question why do you keep referring to the pucks? I'm not coffee connoisseur, but do enjoy a Latte every day. I have had a Philips 3200 for over year now and I have FANTASTIC pucks, don't know what that means as far as espresso taste, its just how its always been for me. I assume that is a good thing seeing how you keep talking about the Delonghi's pucks. Is this true? Thanks for the comparison from the One touch BES990 it was on my wish list, but my taste buds don't think i could tell the difference between the Dynamic Plus so its in the amazon basket for now.

@sachan9081 5 ай бұрын

A nice puck indicates a couple of things. It implies some sort of tamping has happened, that the grind wasn't to fine or course, that it didn't get any channeling. That is already hard to get right on a superautomatic. There's still more to it besides the puck, like pressure, temperature, speed, etc that determine a good extraction. A nice puck is a sign that a couple of things are going right.

@Ginuwine-kx2iv 5 ай бұрын

@@sachan9081 thanks for your answer and your time.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 4 ай бұрын

The answer below is right. A good puck is a sign of good puck prep generally. I just like that I get nice pucks with the Delonghis. They knock out easier for me on my Delonghis too, than other portafilter machines. And here, I am impressed that the Dinamica Plus SA actually makes real pucks, and not just soggy crumbling messes.

@Petercoffeee 7 ай бұрын

Sage dual boiler is a great machine, but it's huge. It's destined for big kitchen countertops or big spaces. Great video 👍

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

I'd say the SDB is about the same as their Barista Express, but of course you need a grinder too. It's a sick machine though,

@lainarkou 7 ай бұрын

5:17 Which ECAM Delonghi models are bad for good quality espresso? Start or Magnifica Evo? You praised Magnifica previously. What's the cheapest superautomatic Delonghi that makes espresso as good as Dinamica?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

The Magnifica S is pretty bad: amzn.to/4aFONNx (affiliate link) I mean for 300 euros it's ok, but it leaves a lot to be desired.

@s96822 7 ай бұрын

in my experience the superauto's (unless a high end commercial machine) produce a crema with less body, more air. recall trying espresso from a superauto brasilia that was very close to manual/ semi auto espresso.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

You're right about that. Most produce it via some kind of aerating valve or something. But this one must produce it via sheer puck size and fine grind, because its a real crema. Cheers!

@s96822 7 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCorner seems the superauto problem is handling a finer grind (error messages) as it has to move it internally as part of the superauto mechanism whereas the manual way is not impeded by such. the only coffee drinkers that will care is limited to the hard core aficionados.

@Nelsonrafaelhernande 6 ай бұрын

What brand of Coffee you recommend for not bitter taste and no so strong taste.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 6 ай бұрын

Oh gosh, you just gotta try a bunch and find one you like. Maybe go for a medium roast. Cheers!

@prebenhansen9846 4 ай бұрын

How about the temperature of the two cups? Are they equally hot?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 4 ай бұрын

If I remember right, I did this with room temperature glasses.

@pavloesaulov4260 7 ай бұрын

That's really interesting content and I wish you would go deeper into details. Some important information I'm missing in this comparison: what beans do you use, how have they been roasted, have you chosen grind settings to be tailored for Sage ideal profile, or for DeLonghi? It would be great to see more comprehensive comparison, using some medium roasted arabica coffee.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

I had both machines dialed in for about a 25 second espresso, both with the same beans, Lavazza Cremoso (amzn.to/3NvKScs), six weeks off roast date. This is a darker roast - or at least pretty dark. Cheers!

@philindeblanc 6 ай бұрын

He mentions the beans and the roast age in the start of the video.

@Albertojedi 7 ай бұрын

Looks like this Delonghi Dinamica Plus fares better against the Dual Boiler than the Delonghi Magnifico EVO against the Sage Touch Impress in your other video. May be due to the fact that you have more adjustments in regards to the amount of coffee and grind size on this Delonghi.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

Yes, due to the larger doses, and the grind gets finer on the Dinamica, it seems. I can choke the Dinamica, which I couldn't do on the Magnifica. Cheers!

@Albertojedi 7 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCorner Excellent! Thanks!

@dejedejsson Ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCorner You can easily change the burr setting on the magnifica so you can choke the machine!

@danielbarzay461 7 ай бұрын

when new Gaggia? :) waiting if worth to buy it ))

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

Do you mean the Espresso? Video is coming soon. Cheers!

@philindeblanc 6 ай бұрын

Wasn't that 30gram shot from the Sage SUPER fast? LOL, like 10 seconds! ..The Sage crema is darker, so it may have got more out of it(?)

@TomsCoffeeCorner 6 ай бұрын

From 1:09 to 1:34. So no, not 10 seconds.

@philindeblanc 6 ай бұрын

oh, ok...thumbs up! @@TomsCoffeeCorner

@j-w-67 7 ай бұрын

What abaut jura e6?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

That would be a good next contender!

@AlokSomani 7 ай бұрын

I had an E8 and thought the espressos were a little too bitter, but I used it basically out of the box with little to no adjustment of grind size or ratios. The pucks were good thought so it was probably a reasonable grind size.

@morphmkd 7 ай бұрын

The problem with the automatic machines are light and light-medium beans (nordic style), on a dark roast I wouldn't expect any difference. Comparison on those levels will show how good is that automatic one. Cheers

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

Could be a good idea for another video. Cheers!

@AASA76 5 ай бұрын

I am concerned about materials materials that can be very toxic when heated and leach chemicals into my coffee. Also the milk picture what type of material I don’t know why no one is talking about materials sometimes people don’t want to just drink coffee without thinking about the chemicals in it.

@johnvuela1211 7 ай бұрын

This is a German wall...❤

@fjdkfdfjdf33 4 ай бұрын

i never realized you were that short.

@TomsCoffeeCorner 4 ай бұрын

Haha, I was sitting down.

@adamnealis 7 ай бұрын

I thought you were taller than that 😊

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

Lol, I had to get in the frame...

@HomesteadAce 7 ай бұрын

While I enjoy watching your videos; the real difference is that one is a machine and the other is an appliance. One allows you to modify it as you wish, the other requires warranty repairs by a "certified technician" Great video nonetheless 👍

@MrJusmobile 7 ай бұрын

Real Espresso machine?? Lol? joking right??

@TomsCoffeeCorner 7 ай бұрын

The Sage Dual Boiler is very well a real espresso machine. So far my favorite to be honest.

@latenightinterview291 3 ай бұрын

Tom does this delonghi adjust for bean? It seems to me unless it adjusts grind size that you would have to buy specific beans for it to truly get a "good" espresso out of it?

@TomsCoffeeCorner 3 ай бұрын

I can choke the machine, at a grind setting if 2-3, depending on roast. So, it does grind fine enough. And so yes, you should dial in your bean accordingly.

@latenightinterview291 3 ай бұрын

@@TomsCoffeeCorner ok so you can adjust the grind and there's a dial in period just like any other machine/grinder combo.

@edibumbaru 7 ай бұрын

Honestly, if you made this clip last year…i wouldn’t have bought my 5400 Lattego…because i sold my Dedica for an superutomatic🤦🏻‍♂️🥲 this Delonghi is very impressive, i have to admit it…probably the best superautomatic in this budget…i don’t know how is the Jura comparable with this…but Jura is from another universe by the price😅 The 5400 is not bad, but this Delonghi is clearly superior…the Philips is not grinding as fine as this model from Delonghi, the group from philips support just 9 grams of coffee…the Magnifica S from Delonghi supports also 8-9 grams from what i know and doens’t grind as fine as that model…but i’m not sure, but the Delonghi also use the same brew group like Philips/Saeco uses the same brew groups in all machines they made…strange things how this Dinamica can make that dopio with much grounded coffee, but i love it🥹 for now, i use my 5400😅 happy coffee drinking!☕️