Chopin LOST his magic?! 😱 | Garrick Ohlsson

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Жыл бұрын

Garrick Ohlsson shares the secret ingredient that Chopin uses to casts a spell on the listener in his Nocturne in D-flat Major, Op. 27 No. 2.
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@JohnHWelch63
@JohnHWelch63 Жыл бұрын
It's amazing how a simple uninteresting melody becomes so deep and passionate when some simple dynamics, or a particular bassline or rhythm is applied. Not just in this particular piece, but in any music in general.
@TheTeeProd
@TheTeeProd Жыл бұрын
I think it is more nuanced than what you said. I would say that the piano leans towards percussion without any possibility of controlling the release of the notes. So on a violin you can express the melody fully using dynamics rather than pressing on piano keys. I would also say that the earliest records we have in music history are that of the gregorian chants so we know that the first instrument we (humans) discovered is our own voice, so melodies always were sung with dynamism and expressivness using our own voice. SO in a a way the piano is kind of an unnatrual instrument if it were used solely for melodies because of its limitations. The "uuninetersting" adjective you used i say is correct because when you hit a note on the piano the sound wave immediately decays and drops whereas if someone is singing or playing the violin they can sustain the note and express it in a fuller kind of way. So when you press the pedal, it sustains and prolongs all the note/soundwaves which creates this cacophony of singing sound waves that our ears enjoys. All this to say that the melody is also beautiful
@jedrzejsteszewski6694
@jedrzejsteszewski6694 Жыл бұрын
The melody is purely genius!
@EllissDee4you4me
@EllissDee4you4me Жыл бұрын
I think a lot of the genius behind music like this is how the composer will use, harmonic progression to create a sense of direction and not just a mood. Harmony is almost heard on a subconscious level and is what I often find tugging at my heart.
@JohnHWelch63
@JohnHWelch63 Жыл бұрын
@@TheTeeProd I’ve been a guitarist for 40 plus years. Never played piano nor do I know much about classical music. I also don’t know music theory. Although I get the basic gist of your reply, I’m afraid I don’t have the musical wisdom you do, so I’m only going to thank you for the response without trying to pretend I know what you’re talking about. LoL. I do know, however, that lately I have been discovering classical music, and I am quickly falling in love with it.
@tezeta3725
@tezeta3725 Жыл бұрын
​@@TheTeeProdGregorian chants are most definitely not the first music we have records of
@emilycalles623
@emilycalles623 Жыл бұрын
One of the many reasons why Chopin is my favorite composer
@4Stanzas
@4Stanzas 12 күн бұрын
The Chopin piece played here is, far and away, my favorite Chopin piece.
@ke6319
@ke6319 4 ай бұрын
It's so interesting when you tell the story like that. Brilliant composer Chopin was
@tommcconnell69
@tommcconnell69 Жыл бұрын
When you understand music at this level you must really feel the music.
@mrpankau
@mrpankau Жыл бұрын
People who try to dismiss Chopin as just a "piano composer" are so sad. He was a partial contemporary of Beethoven and used harmonies that would have even made Ludwig squirm. The man saw the future.
@quarkonium3795
@quarkonium3795 Жыл бұрын
It's not really valid to call Chopin a partial contemporary of Beethoven when only one of his opus-numbered pieces was published before Beethoven wrote his last piece. Chopin was only 17 when Beethoven died and he had only composed a few things before that point
@mrpankau
@mrpankau Жыл бұрын
@@quarkonium3795 Hence "partial".
@jonathanDstrand
@jonathanDstrand 11 ай бұрын
but that’s exactly what he was lol what harmonies did he use that would have even made Ludwig squirm?
@jonathan130
@jonathan130 11 ай бұрын
Give me some examples of those harmonies. Just curious
@owenbishop6544
@owenbishop6544 10 ай бұрын
@@jonathan130see the coda of his 4th ballade and the 4th movement of his 2nd sonata which both border on atonality
@MJN260
@MJN260 Жыл бұрын
Thank you...such a brilliant demonstration for comparison between the Classical and Romantic styles...
@susanhonegger9987
@susanhonegger9987 Жыл бұрын
I love Chopin. Just amazing pieces of music
@NICUofficial
@NICUofficial Жыл бұрын
hearing this piece for the first time changed the course of my life. Summer after Freshman year of college. Walking around UT Austin campus listening on my CD player & headphones. Kissin was playing. One of those rare moments where life's direction altered in an instant.
@bbbartolo
@bbbartolo Жыл бұрын
l love these insider insights. Reading this in a book is not the same without the demo. Thanks, maestro.
@Aaron-zh4kj
@Aaron-zh4kj Жыл бұрын
Notes sustaining, dancing around each other at the same time, will turn a line into far more than the sum of its parts in a magical way, especially with a well written piece for it. I'm less of a pianist and more of an electric guitarist, but that's so true in the guitar world as well (you can use a delay pedal with longer delay on a guitar to do very similar things to the effect we hear in Chopin's music here).
@johnnyp6202
@johnnyp6202 Жыл бұрын
Arguably his finest piece. I do suspect though that Haydn or Mozart would do more with the melody
@JacobDTulio
@JacobDTulio Жыл бұрын
One of my favourites too. Definitely the best Nocturne out of the set.
@bobnewton1064
@bobnewton1064 Жыл бұрын
@@JacobDTulio 37 no1 takes cake for me
@MM-we9yl
@MM-we9yl Жыл бұрын
I agree, unbeaten!
@renascitur7051
@renascitur7051 Жыл бұрын
More staccato, scales, and trills
@ashhall308
@ashhall308 Жыл бұрын
Which Nocturne is this please?
@soulballet
@soulballet Жыл бұрын
note to self... remember to step on the pedal once n a while
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849
@russellszabadosaka5-pindin849 11 ай бұрын
I love listening to this gentleman speak, he's so witty. Chopin's Nocturnes changed me from a half-interested young piano student into a lover of Chopin and eventually all orchestral music. I thank my wonderful piano teacher, may she Rest In Peace.
@tmackster69games31
@tmackster69games31 Жыл бұрын
Chopin is my favorite to play AND to listen to, him, Rach and Liszt
@giovannib27
@giovannib27 Жыл бұрын
W take
@WasiulWahid-ot7cj
@WasiulWahid-ot7cj Жыл бұрын
L take imo, sounds like someone who recently graduated from gen z and stumbled upon piano thinking the flashy ones with fast tempo are the best cause they have the patience of me waiting in front of the microwave.
@giovannib27
@giovannib27 Жыл бұрын
@@WasiulWahid-ot7cj I mean Liszt has a lot of flashy pieces but Chopin and Rach have a very wide variety of pieces ranging from flashy to romantic pieces, slow, sad, upbeat, so I wouldn't say that Chopin rach and Liszt are only flashy pieces
@user-fq7uh3wq1f
@user-fq7uh3wq1f 8 ай бұрын
​@@WasiulWahid-ot7cj You think Liszt only has fast and flashy pieces? You're the one who only knows those famous flashy pieces lol. I can name at least 10 slow and quiet Liszt pieces.
@titob.yotokojr.9337
@titob.yotokojr.9337 Жыл бұрын
That's why style is very important in piano playing. The two composers may write similar notes but how you play them makes the difference between who is who.
@AwKeShen.
@AwKeShen. 2 ай бұрын
Chopin's decision for the bass makes it so much more beautiful and magical!
@spacevspitch4028
@spacevspitch4028 4 ай бұрын
Favorite nocturne ❤️👂❤ Took me decades to get up the nerve to finally learn it. I easily could have in high school but I think I was intimidated by all the changes in the left hand figure. Seemed too complex for some reason. Even though I easily memorized other pieces of similar complexity.
@louisestaats234
@louisestaats234 4 ай бұрын
Amazing. Thanks for posting!
@ZSPSAAC123
@ZSPSAAC123 Жыл бұрын
Chopin - The one and only!! He is always in my first place❤❤❤❤
@drew6524
@drew6524 7 ай бұрын
Chopin was an amazingly pianistic composer. He was the vanguard and adamantine force behind the transition of pianoforte from a percussion to a sonorous and lyrical instrument. So much of piano only existed AFTER Chopin did it. From the C#m glissandi to the black note etude or the C# Fantasy Impromptu octave leaping stream as scintillating yet also a single silk thread- his pianistic technology was transformative. I remember being a child and reading the etudes and looking around confused that 1) there was no one to celebrate with me this great magic on the page, no one seemed to notice and 2) even when I’d explain it people weren’t impressed. I’m talking about someone CREATING ENTIRE UNIVERSES and everyone was more obsessed with their coffees
@handznet
@handznet Жыл бұрын
The fact this channel got Garrick for content is amazing. ❤
@gayathriparthasarathy255
@gayathriparthasarathy255 Жыл бұрын
Have u heard him attacking Prokofiev 3? Rach 3?
@JSB2500
@JSB2500 Жыл бұрын
Now I know why I went straight from Bach to Chopin 🤭😄🤭😄🤭
@JohnSmith-oe5kx
@JohnSmith-oe5kx Жыл бұрын
That’s unfair 😂 He was playing like a plonker on purpose
@pjbpiano
@pjbpiano Жыл бұрын
@@JohnSmith-oe5kx he was.
@cjadventures8840
@cjadventures8840 11 ай бұрын
Bach is fire wdym?!?
@JSB2500
@JSB2500 11 ай бұрын
@@cjadventures8840 Are you referring to my Bach-Vivaldi Short videos? If so, by "Fire Edition" I simply mean crazily fast fff, as opposed to a scholarly Baroque approach! 🙃
@leonardodelyrarodrigues3752
@leonardodelyrarodrigues3752 Жыл бұрын
❤ Chopin
@klimperkasten6115
@klimperkasten6115 26 күн бұрын
I LOVE CHOPIN SOOOO MUCH❤❤❤
@cssantisteban
@cssantisteban Жыл бұрын
Thank you, maestro. This is also a magic pedagogy.
@stephenfennell
@stephenfennell 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for that insight! It was so simple that an uneducated music lover could understand it immediately, but it sheds light on so much. I had never realised that the sustain pedal was so much at the heart of the difference between 18th century and 19th century piano music.
@Daniel.Barret.Official
@Daniel.Barret.Official 9 ай бұрын
For those who don’t know; Chopin was heavily inspired by opera; which is why his melody works where it wouldn’t with Mozart; because he was trying to fit the voice of 50 instruments into a single piano piece… which is why his prices can be so complex in how he conveys voices and sounds
@SF-qk1ip
@SF-qk1ip 11 ай бұрын
Wow, you're right. That is magic.
@patriciabray5726
@patriciabray5726 Ай бұрын
Ah....then we have the hands, the heart and soul of the pianist don't we!?😊
@MURRYCHOOCK
@MURRYCHOOCK Жыл бұрын
Even the joke was a good one
@legato699
@legato699 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for showing us. The Chopin way is kind of spellbinding, wrapping us in a rich sound fabric
@JSB2500
@JSB2500 Жыл бұрын
A very good enlightening bad joke indeed! ❤
@sergiorosales1689
@sergiorosales1689 Жыл бұрын
I'm super happy I discovered these shorts
@atta1798
@atta1798 Жыл бұрын
Beautiful!!! details so intense n powerful not longer a knowledge of our times of how it all was born n progressed
@marinadela1361
@marinadela1361 9 ай бұрын
Romanticism elevated piano music to new unseen before heights and is far superior to Classical.
@pei-tzuchuang1766
@pei-tzuchuang1766 8 ай бұрын
Love this!
@debbiewatermelon
@debbiewatermelon 4 ай бұрын
Love this. I love Chopin
@ronl7131
@ronl7131 Жыл бұрын
K511 pretty Romantic for Mozart
@mandohat
@mandohat Жыл бұрын
Thank you!!!
@elizabethclark394
@elizabethclark394 6 ай бұрын
At first i thought huh??? Then listened to your whole explanation, thank you for the explanation and doing it in such a way that you hook a non-musician who loves the sounds created. Genius, thank you. I also now realize the leap from classical to the romantic eras.
@juliegill6278
@juliegill6278 Жыл бұрын
My GOD!!!!!! THAT IS GORGEOUS!!!!!!!!
@SharonChenMusic
@SharonChenMusic 9 ай бұрын
❤ this nocturne..
@hshlom
@hshlom 11 ай бұрын
I want to see more of Mr. Ohlsson's Bosendorfer piano!
@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401
@sarahhearn-vonfoerster7401 Жыл бұрын
Mesmerizing! Sometimes I just go off to somewhere in the hinterlands while playing Chopin...the music continues.
@ELISPOTTS-xc6qx
@ELISPOTTS-xc6qx Жыл бұрын
Beautiful piano. I love
@MrByebyelove
@MrByebyelove Жыл бұрын
Anyone else aaaallllllmost hearing the piano section of Nick Drake's "Pink Moon" song in the Chopin piece's opening figure?😊
@leevinolla8818
@leevinolla8818 Жыл бұрын
It's just like that. as a composer, I know one thing and that is that when you want to make great music, you can easily make great melodies and others (right hand), but the left hand is HARD to make fine and complex. Oh, how easily it always goes to repeating those three notes from that chord😂😭😂😂
@gribmuse5686
@gribmuse5686 6 ай бұрын
Cool!! 💫
@scotttaccati8472
@scotttaccati8472 Жыл бұрын
After seeing the actual transcription of the sheet music, I see why I don’t play this. Let me listen to it and I can!!!
@gayathriparthasarathy255
@gayathriparthasarathy255 Жыл бұрын
Mr Garrick,a huge fan of your playing. Prokofieff pl. His 3rd piano concerto. Your earlier performance was share magic in Ambler Campus.
@gayathriparthasarathy255
@gayathriparthasarathy255 Жыл бұрын
Sheer magic
@cherylcalac8485
@cherylcalac8485 10 ай бұрын
You are so right!
@TheMightyKingzuru
@TheMightyKingzuru 6 ай бұрын
I fully agree. It's absolutely magical.
@ross6753
@ross6753 9 ай бұрын
Don't blame Haydn and Mozart for not using something that didn't exist yet when they were alive
@JohnSmith-oe5kx
@JohnSmith-oe5kx Жыл бұрын
“When you out the pedal down…” When Olsen puts the pedal down, it’s best to stand clear
@its_nifler
@its_nifler Жыл бұрын
Ohhh beautiful!! I want to play that piece now!😅
@dcorrette
@dcorrette 11 ай бұрын
I love it.!!! days Judy Corrette
@sebastiankrupa_
@sebastiankrupa_ 5 ай бұрын
What a genius ✨🎶✨
@millennial_bug
@millennial_bug 7 ай бұрын
Ambient music is born
@nezkeys79
@nezkeys79 Жыл бұрын
What about a beethoven version! ❤
@daviddelayat-dnapictures
@daviddelayat-dnapictures Жыл бұрын
Thanks a lot for this video ! Is there a sheet music of this version ?
@dynamicalan
@dynamicalan 6 ай бұрын
Nice short lesson
@walterbaldemor2128
@walterbaldemor2128 2 ай бұрын
I remember when Mr bond met Mr stromberg in Spy who loved me
@avivchotzen1300
@avivchotzen1300 Жыл бұрын
I swear, musicians trained in the style of European "classical music" are holding back the entire medium
@solstice871
@solstice871 6 ай бұрын
What?
@avivchotzen1300
@avivchotzen1300 6 ай бұрын
@@solstice871 with their often pompous intimidating and uninviting atmosphere. And the fact that compared to say, producers, they use way too many superlatives and generally use a lot of a words but end up saying nothing of any meaning other than their opinion
@solstice871
@solstice871 6 ай бұрын
@@avivchotzen1300 That is a very old fashioned view. Classical musicians of the newer generations are much less elitist and that notion is very misinformed in the first place. There are always sour apples but the majority is very welcoming. As for their “superlatives” and words, it may seem extra but there is usually a lot of truth to it. I don’t get what you mean with producers either since they also have their own slew of jargon and terms that the average person wouldn’t understand..
@avivchotzen1300
@avivchotzen1300 6 ай бұрын
@@solstice871 can only attest to those I met. And as for the jargon. Even for musicians it means nothing to say something is "magic"
@solstice871
@solstice871 6 ай бұрын
@@avivchotzen1300 It makes sense in this context. You can distinctly hear the difference between his joke Mozart version of the piece and the way Chopin wrote it. He says magic because that’s where the beauty of the piece is, in the specific way Chopin composed the piece.
@charlesdelajungle9473
@charlesdelajungle9473 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for all... anyway... Garrick gave me the "key" for Op 25-n°11 using the side of little finger... it tooks me years to apply just one tip.
@esauuv8389
@esauuv8389 Жыл бұрын
Chopin is my reference. I know there were more music geniuses and respect them, but I feel that Chopin is just my favorite. I have sat and listened to many composers, but only Chopin's music have push me to know more and more of his works in a natural way. Know it's my taste, someone else can feel the same with, say, Schubert. But my point is that I can see why he trascended.
@elmentor8919
@elmentor8919 7 ай бұрын
I don’t understand the title joke ? What exactly did Chopin do wrong to lose his magic ? You didn’t clearly explain this !
@bergkampdennis5673
@bergkampdennis5673 6 ай бұрын
chopin is the greatest musician of human history
@yuk_notkim7658
@yuk_notkim7658 3 ай бұрын
I disagree, I almost can't listen to his music.
@camilloflaim159
@camilloflaim159 4 ай бұрын
Garrick i know you how you play the studio n° 1 Op. 10 of Chopin.
@ronalddepesa6221
@ronalddepesa6221 Жыл бұрын
All the sustain pedal. My go to bail out lok
@JulienisInterested
@JulienisInterested Жыл бұрын
Not a fan of your clickbaiting. The content stands on its own but perhaps you are not patient enough to allow for it to grow without lessening it’s message with this distorted clarion call…? I still love you though. Just an opinion, that’s all.
@rubenchables8303
@rubenchables8303 8 ай бұрын
It is an art itself to master the piano pedals…🥸
@RoyGBiv-lc8tv
@RoyGBiv-lc8tv Жыл бұрын
I love that
@rikitiki864
@rikitiki864 Жыл бұрын
Hola Tony! Perdona pero cuando dices que sonemos funcionales a que te refieres?
@trancosomarcus
@trancosomarcus Жыл бұрын
The greatest composer
@WasiulWahid-ot7cj
@WasiulWahid-ot7cj Жыл бұрын
in your opinion of course. personally, i find the statement extremely influriating.
@trancosomarcus
@trancosomarcus Жыл бұрын
@@WasiulWahid-ot7cj I don't care about your opinion either. Absolutamente Insignificante.
@FerdiSchwarz
@FerdiSchwarz 6 ай бұрын
@@trancosomarcus Legendary reply.
@davidvernon3119
@davidvernon3119 5 ай бұрын
It almost sounds like jazz to me
@goktugblack
@goktugblack Жыл бұрын
That is what Haydn is compared to Chopin = a bad joke...
@randscott4676
@randscott4676 Жыл бұрын
His first example is straight no feeling mechanical. So while taking his point he nonetheless might have made the first example musical to be a fair comparison.
@PooMonkeyMan
@PooMonkeyMan 7 ай бұрын
I might be in the very small minority here, but I actually like the “Haydn/Mozart” joke version. I think it comes from an internalised distaste for the piano’s refinement and the decline of the harpsichord. If anything, I think it’d be weird to say I may like Romantic pieces more if played on a harpsichord. 😅
@pfx2259
@pfx2259 Жыл бұрын
Nothing like a nocture shimmer
@emilianogabriele4878
@emilianogabriele4878 Жыл бұрын
Is not the pedal to be honest, is the arpeggio which is different from the first he played
@me1ody69
@me1ody69 Жыл бұрын
this magik
@jimnicosia5934
@jimnicosia5934 Жыл бұрын
Did you know that chopin had a brother who's name was Fryingpan
@andreashoppe1969
@andreashoppe1969 Жыл бұрын
Like for the Bösendorfer! Awesome piano
@lauradewhurst2860
@lauradewhurst2860 Жыл бұрын
Yes!
@icst4786
@icst4786 9 ай бұрын
I actually think a proper classical interpretation would be very interesting and worthwhile, if as much effort was put into it as the traditional one. Different kind of magic, but still great.
@jhl2458
@jhl2458 9 ай бұрын
Master
@jcl9792
@jcl9792 Жыл бұрын
Andantino - 3:54
@adrianc8664
@adrianc8664 11 ай бұрын
You just helped me sell a coin, thank you 🙏.
@user-fr8hw8up6q
@user-fr8hw8up6q 8 ай бұрын
Im a little confused. Take pretty much any piece that uses pedal and it will sound bad when you take the pedal away. But you dont then say wow this composer was a magic genius for using pedal markings here.
@angellee9307
@angellee9307 8 ай бұрын
I wanna go to SCHOOL!!!❤😢
@justinnoble6506
@justinnoble6506 4 ай бұрын
Uhh Mozart played a fortepiano, with much fewer keys (76?) and straight strung wires (no frame or high tension). Basically a harpsichord with hammers instead of a plectrum. Not a fair comparison. Mozart was the first to break into the Romantic era with his Piano Concerto No. 20…can you imagine him living another 40 years with a modern piano?
@happycustomer3448
@happycustomer3448 Жыл бұрын
Love it❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@rond3435
@rond3435 9 ай бұрын
wow without pedal Chopin isn't Chopin I knew
@klop4228
@klop4228 Жыл бұрын
I... kind of liked the first example? Not saying the original isn't better, but that version is definitely nice.
@pjbpiano
@pjbpiano Жыл бұрын
It would have sounded better if he wanted to play it well.
@klop4228
@klop4228 Жыл бұрын
@@pjbpiano That's something I was thinking about, too. I'm also not big on the fact that he suggests the "Haydn/Mozart" version is inherently bad.
@mikehess4494
@mikehess4494 6 ай бұрын
What? What a difference. Thank you.
@alohomora8727
@alohomora8727 Жыл бұрын
Первый вариант хорошо подходит для клавесина. Наверное, там бы была своя магия ;)
@shirleybeyah3976
@shirleybeyah3976 7 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤❤
@greenvelvet
@greenvelvet 9 ай бұрын
I don't understand the point of the clickbait title Chopin LOST his magic? I hate clickbait e shit like this
@jameshays932
@jameshays932 4 ай бұрын
Ohlsson believes there IS a place in music for the down pedal....."sostenuto"
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