Tongsheng: Install the OSF and KEEP YOUR DISPLAY!

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THE PART 2 OF THIS VIDEO IS NOW AVAILABLE: • Tongsheng: OSF Part 2....
I finally decided to go for it.
I installed the Open Source firmware on my Tongsheng TSDZ2 while keeping the VLCD5 display!
If you were wondering if your mid-drive kit could be "better tuned", this is for you.
In this episode we're gonna install all the software necessary to compile and flash our own custom firmware, thanks to a project maintained by the GitHub user emmebrusa.
You'll need:
- a guide: empoweredpeople.co.uk/2020/05...
- the project: github.com/emmebrusa/TSDZ2-Sm...
- some patience
Enjoy! 😉
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Chapters:
0:00 Welcome
2:01 The guide
3:18 Downloading stuff
4:19 Installing software
5:58 Backup original firmware
7:53 Restoring original firmware
8:43 Open Source Firmware
12:00 Result
12:50 End of Part 1
14:39 Greetings 👋
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500W Mid-drive comparison:
• Tongsheng TSDZ2 or Baf...
Consumption comparison Bafang Vs Tongsheng:
• RANGE Comparison: BBS0...
Bafang BBS02B 500W:
• Riding a Bafang 500W m...
Bafang BBS02B 750W:
• Riding a Bafang 750W m...
Tongsheng TSDZ2 500W:
• DIY: First Time with T...
About ebikes (subEN-subFR):
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@mcminecraft9203 Жыл бұрын

Great Video. I see you said to connect the battery and ensure it is on. I recall reading somewhere that the battery needs to be disconnected. I am scared of doing the wrong thing - can you confirm which is the right thing?

@LukeLorusso Жыл бұрын

Hi! I prefer to leave the battery connected and turned on cause I've learned in my life to never assume that the power coming from a USB cable will ever be enough 😅 That said, it's SUPER IMPORTANT that you do as the manual says: "Caution. During programming, the display must be off!" That's why maybe you read that other advice elsewhere: overcaution, which is not a bad thing... Do what you feel it's best, just be sure to keep the display off while flashing

@viettanvo5557 10 ай бұрын

I disconnect the battery before doing any installation --> work fine. however I use a short DIY programming cable to make sure there is not much voltage drop on the cable.

@bibekgautam512 Жыл бұрын

I just built my tongsheng middrive last week. I was looking at possibly installing osf in the near future. I think this is gonna be super helpful. thanks for posting!

@jbone3212 2 ай бұрын

I sure wish you were over here in the states I’d pay you to flash my motor I can twist wrench’s and fix about anything mechanical but when it comes to computer technology I’m just left scratching my head like a caveman excellent work getting this knowledge out there well done and thank you for it.

@hillyseattlenarrowstreets6087 Жыл бұрын

5 Stars presentation. Very thorough and recognize the time and research you did! Looking forward to Part II and it's info. The CYC Photon mid-drive (@ $950) been getting lots of attention. HV or High Voltage channel is a good source of info. His BBSHD kit is a beast & He loves his Photon. He also mentioned that a Tongsheng engineer has made a separate company "2K"? that's going to expand on the Tongsheng system. Hope both companies send you a motor so you can introduce it to your European viewers.

@LukeLorusso Жыл бұрын

Thank you very much, for the info and the appreciation 🙏 The CYC has been detected by "my radar", but I haven't yet found the occasion to try it out yet... we'll see for the future! Oh if you're still interested, part II is already out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bKifmJapvcmngaM.html

@ukrytykrytyk8477 Жыл бұрын

Great video, thank you for making it! I bought now two bikes with tsdz2 conversion, one is 36V 250W, the other is 52V 750W. Need to get my head around flashing both.

@LukeLorusso Жыл бұрын

Thank you! enjoy your new bikes 🚲🚲 Probably you won't need to hack the 750W one, but you may consider it for the 250W ✌️

@ukrytykrytyk8477 Жыл бұрын

@@LukeLorusso Thanks, enjoying both already! There is a difference between the 250W and the 750W motors indeed but I heard that custom software changes feel of both for the better. I'll start with 250W first and then think of doing 750W with SW102 display. Thank you again for your videos. Thanks to them I pulled the trigger and bought TSDZ2 motors as Iwanted riding feel as close to Bosch system as possible and I'm not disappointed so far.

@lennymiller7336 2 ай бұрын

Good video as always! It appears that you are a lot more computer savvy than I. This motor is a lot more complicated to re-configure than the Bafang BBS02

@dorotabednarska9813 2 ай бұрын

Thanks. Working perfectly.

@cnomidis 28 күн бұрын

Super video at last! But pls give us a couple of links of where to buy the cable (st link)!!

@acktan9082 Жыл бұрын

Is there a way to make trottle accelerate slow or smooth even if i full trottle it? And can i make it cruise on speed limit? For example if i limit speed 1 to 20 kph if i full trottle it wont stop and go it will just stay 20kph

@bibekgautam512 Жыл бұрын

You should link the second part in the description. KZfaq doesnt do a good job recommending some times

@LukeLorusso Жыл бұрын

it's the man!

@keithriggins2136 Ай бұрын

Does the update work with the EKD01 controller?

@brucemcleod5575 Жыл бұрын

The mystery speed you see at powerup and other times are status - Battery voltage and I think power levels . The odometer compensation option makes it so the first little distance isnt added to your odometer and it isnt adding phantom miles to your overall odometer. I was hoping you would explain the E02 menu system - where you start in street mode so it is street legal from poweron but a combo of buttons can change to say hybrid assist I am yet to see a video that shows that :) But yes Hybrid mode rocks

@LukeLorusso Жыл бұрын

Thanks man, that's really helpful!!! 💪 It makes sense: 58.3 is the battery %, 37.7 is the residual volt... but what's that last 19? Do you know it? ...yeah sorry for not going too deep into the explaination, I'm still figuring it out

@brucemcleod5575 Жыл бұрын

@@LukeLorusso All good - I did mine about 6 months ago and still cannot figure out the menu system :) so like you just set it to hybrid assist on power on. But the street mode from poweron would be good for those countries like mine that are really pedantic about the 250w limits, as if your bike is suspected of being overpowered will only LOOK like a 250W motor without the menu changes.

@sp3occ 2 ай бұрын

Are this firmware be good for TSDZ2B ??

@PS-ho6kq 4 ай бұрын

Can you do the same with VLCD12 display? Does this work with ANY display or only for VLCD5?

@damiano6007 21 күн бұрын

Hi I’ve got a problem , because I’ve got the stmlink v2 stm8 but my engine has 8 pin and not 6pin pinout , and has someone the instruction how to connect the stink with 8pin because I can’t find it

@dieseldan1 Ай бұрын

When I hit the compile and flash button, the command promp opens and runs a bunch of code but I'm never prompted to press any key to continue it just closes on it's own. How can I confirm the motor has been successfully flashed?

@el-velo 8 ай бұрын

Did anyone make a friendship of TSDZ2 with KT LCD4 display or SW102 display? LCD3 and native VLCD5 are too large in my opinion :)

@jcarnouil 10 ай бұрын

Great video Luke ! I plan to install the OSF on my bike and already ordered the interface card and cable. Part 2 video is "private" and does not play. Is there any reason ?

@LukeLorusso 10 ай бұрын

Hello et merci! 😊 The second part is live, but it has been re-uploaded, so maybe the link is out of date... Please, check again: it should be good now!

@jcarnouil 10 ай бұрын

@@LukeLorusso I clicked on the link above, but it works now ! Thank you, I'll watch it ASAP.

@user-wo3ln3nu7e 9 ай бұрын

I make my own programming cables. All worked so far when using the java tool to install OSF. Anyone interesged in buying?

@michaeeeeeeelt 11 ай бұрын

Luke, I want to buy the st-link v2, but I’m not sure which cable you mean, when mentioning a speed sensor cable?

@LukeLorusso 11 ай бұрын

You'll find the details here empoweredpeople.co.uk/2020/05/28/tongsheng-tsdz2-what-firmware-options-are-there/ at "Tools needed."

@cnomidis 28 күн бұрын

Look at video 6:17" it shows exactly where the speed sensor connection is. This is the spot to plug the st-link cable

@juan1ride 5 ай бұрын

Hi Luke, Do you know if the TSDZ2B can be customised with OSF?

@LukeLorusso 5 ай бұрын

it has been asked already, here's the link at the comment: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/nsxzntKbsZ6-qok.html&lc=Ugzu6-ZpKxUFF9sn9DR4AaABAg

@01alechko 6 ай бұрын

Hi. Great video. I have the same display including all accessories but i don't know if the controller is the same. My bike model is Apex Stark DH 2 battery 60v/20A. Unfortunately i can't enter hidden options in the display menu by pressing in 2 bottoms simultaneously. Can you tell me please if i will upgrade firmware to your version after all can i get an unlock display and do anything from the display. I want to change power and speed.Thanks

@LukeLorusso 6 ай бұрын

Hello! Even if the Stark Apex DH shares the same display, the motor itself is completely a different one from the TSDZ2. Unfortunately, you cannot use this specific firmware to flash your motor

@01alechko 6 ай бұрын

@@LukeLorusso Can you help me please to find a forum or something that can explain to me how to enter a hidden options?

@jempibassman3702 11 ай бұрын

Do you know if this works for the TSDZ2B motor also ?? or alone for older TSDZ2 ? Tnx

@LukeLorusso 11 ай бұрын

I've read something about it here www.reddit.com/r/ebikes/comments/13zkbv8/quick_question_does_the_opensource_firmware_work/jn347rm

@jempibassman3702 11 ай бұрын

@@LukeLorusso Tnx, I'l l have it a go

@MrAshrambo 9 ай бұрын

It depends of the controller that you have...some units dont have st controller...

@dannyd976 10 ай бұрын

When Flashing at 11:12 I am encountering some error . It doesn't seem like even the first line of code can run , clean.bat. I am getting the following error MAKE Version 5.41 Copyright (c) 1987, 2014 Embarcadero Technologies, Inc. Error makefile 92: Too many rules for target '../../bin/%.rel' Error makefile 97: Too many rules for target '../../bin/%.rel' *** 2 errors during make *** Cleaning failed!! Press any key to continue . . . Any idea what may be causing this ?

@LukeLorusso 10 ай бұрын

the only thing that comes into my mind is that something might have been installed in the wrong directory

@durk541 Жыл бұрын

Whats your opinion on the tsdz2 and tsdz2b?

@LukeLorusso Жыл бұрын

So far not a complete opinion, I was planning to order the b, to replace the actual TSDZ2, just moved by fear of premature fails. But then I said to myself "I already have a nylon blue gear replacement here, worst case scenario I'll try to replace it, otherwise I'll consider buying" I've also read somewhere that some of the new b controllers were not flashable anymore, but don't quote me on that

@durk541 Жыл бұрын

@@LukeLorusso The tsdz2b has the same controller. I was curious on your opinion of the change to the white reduction gear. I have the tsdz2b on my full sus mtb with OSF. Never tried the non-b version.

@LukeLorusso Жыл бұрын

@@durk541 Definately a good idea to buy the newer one, talking about the white reduction gear. Here's one place where they talk about the controller thing www.reddit.com/r/ebikes/comments/13zkbv8/comment/jn347rm/

@o00scorpion00o Жыл бұрын

How many amps and watts should the limit be @52v ?

@LukeLorusso Жыл бұрын

Only you know this :) The detailed part will come with the next video, but suppose you have a 17Ah battery @ 52V. It makes a theoretical output of 17x52=884Wh. For such a battery: Battery current max: 17 Battery power max: 850 (better to be conservative) Battery capacity: 884 Battery cells: Battery voltage cutoff: (depends on you but I would put) 45

@o00scorpion00o Жыл бұрын

@@LukeLorusso Yes, I have exactly 52v 17 Ah em3ev battery. 30 amp continuous limit. I just meant what would a safe max be for the motor to stop it burning with the new firmware ?It's very hot on stock FW. I'm waiting for the ST-Link. I can't wait to try the new Firmware.

@LukeLorusso Жыл бұрын

@@o00scorpion00o unfortunately I don't own the 48V variant, so I can't be very precise, but I believe the 52V battery might be the reason behind its temperature... you'll surely find some better configuration with the OSF! ✌️

@o00scorpion00o Жыл бұрын

@@LukeLorusso Yeah can't wait to load on the new FW. I was hoping the motor would have been more powerful than the Bosch 50 Nm but it isn't, not with stock FW which is half the advertised torque, hoping the new FW will open it up a bit.

@pieroruscjittiruscitti6638 Жыл бұрын

buongiorno , io ho installato OSF DI EMMEBRUSA, impressionante nella potenza ad eco , tour, la marcia spped non la uso quasi piu'. oltre ad consumi ridotti della batteria , non voglio esagerare ma resco a fare piu' del 30 per cento in piu' di strada . Per quanto riguarda il display VLCD5, mi da' piu' informazioni, appena accendo il display il primo numero che compare ho potuto constatare che coincide con il livello di batteria, anche se la misurazione dalla piletta in alto a destra e' molto migliorata, poi compare un secondo numero che ho notato che dovrebbe coincidere con le volts di carica batterie , perche' man mano scende e cosi' anche il primo numero. Devo dire che il motore nemmeno riscalda eccesivamente dopo lunghe percorsi di cui anche in salita. Dimenticavo io un TDSZ2B 500W. Sarebbe bello approfondire la lettura del display dopo l'aggiornamento. grazie

@ernestocarcatella9467 7 ай бұрын

Quindi funziona anche per tdsz2b ottimo era la riposta che cercavo

@sp3occ Ай бұрын

Can I try with this update firmware, with motor TSDZ2B ??