Tony Pro Wanted to Kill Frank Sheeran in a Secret Mob Meeting | The Irishman Explained

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4 жыл бұрын

After the disappearance of Teamsters President Jimmy Hoffa, the mobsters involved - Russell Bufalino, Tony Pro, Anthony Salerno, Frank Sheeran and Sally Buggs - convened for a meeting to discuss Hoffa's fate. Things got heated, and revelations were made...
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@emilytrott
@emilytrott 3 жыл бұрын
You can see in the movie that Sheeran expected to be killed when he refused to let Sally Bugs sit behind him in the car on the way to pick up Hoffa. This scene is why earlier in the film we saw Bugs garrote another man from behind while riding in a car.
@ChrisTaylor-Guitar
@ChrisTaylor-Guitar 3 жыл бұрын
Strangely the book the film is based on Frank Sheeran sat in front
@cassiecasiano2500
@cassiecasiano2500 2 жыл бұрын
Never just put a fish in the car.
@randycunningham7318
@randycunningham7318 6 ай бұрын
I wouldn't want Sally Bugs sitting behind me.
@jayrajamanickam
@jayrajamanickam 4 жыл бұрын
"I never wanted it to go that far. I picked us over him."
@EFDUP-o7s
@EFDUP-o7s 4 жыл бұрын
"fuck em.... fuck em. Mangiare"
@robertroca6503
@robertroca6503 4 жыл бұрын
gime some.a little piece. just a lil piece
@ekLuca
@ekLuca 3 жыл бұрын
@@robertroca6503 i got no teeth :D
@geefaith21
@geefaith21 3 жыл бұрын
Fuck’em Fuck’em
@P4boot
@P4boot Жыл бұрын
Fnck ‘em! Fnck ‘em.
@mafiagang20
@mafiagang20 3 жыл бұрын
I’m sure Artie bucco was glad to have them there
@fopkiller
@fopkiller 3 жыл бұрын
Vesuvio. Glad someone caught that.
@tkso.philly3879
@tkso.philly3879 4 жыл бұрын
"They say,what's done in the dark will eventually come to light."
@skullhunter06660
@skullhunter06660 4 жыл бұрын
Exciting topic, decent video, very detailed explanation, presented very well, am subscribing, looking foward to more videos!
@bobmacabre6873
@bobmacabre6873 4 жыл бұрын
If you beat someone long enough, they’ll tell you who started the goddamn Chicago Fires. That don’t necessarily make it fuckin’ so. I’m not convinced Sheeran killed Hoffa. I don’t know who fuckin’ did; I’m just not convinced. Seems like a last-ditch effort to leave some money behind for his family. Maybe we’ll never know; all I can say is that I loved the film.
@99somerville
@99somerville 3 жыл бұрын
It was. He was broke and wanted to leave money to his kids.
@leovasquez5501
@leovasquez5501 3 жыл бұрын
Nice Guy Eddie!
@rasnac
@rasnac 4 жыл бұрын
I dont believe Frank himself pulled the trigger. I think he brought Hoffa to the house, made sure he felt safe. And that is why he blames himself for the murder. He did not want to name names of anyone still alive in the book, so he said he pulled the trigger himself. He wrote a tell-all book to be able to leave some money to his estranged family without being a snitch by putting the blame on himself for couple of high profile murders.
@Slipmahoney21
@Slipmahoney21 4 жыл бұрын
He wasn’t any where around Hoffa that day, neither was Chucky O’Brien. The movie wasn’t Scorsese’s best , and the premise was 100% bullshit. Sheeran was a low level union thug... he knew those people, but he sure as hell wasn’t Hoffa’s close confidante and .
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 4 жыл бұрын
You don't know shit.
@timpage5021
@timpage5021 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely correct
@mikimiyazaki
@mikimiyazaki 3 жыл бұрын
Its been confirmed dozens of times that sheeran is a complete bullshit artist. Franzese was definitely in the know and he also said dude lied.
@ekLuca
@ekLuca 3 жыл бұрын
@@Slipmahoney21 Just read this, its Bufalinos case file from the FBI. Its funny u say he was not any where around Hoffa that day, it says in the file, Bufalino and Sheeran both where spoted in Detroit days after the murder ( Sheeran went there alone fist for the hit, then came back with Bufallino later) The file also documents Hoffas realationship with Sheeran because Bufalino introduced them. www.citizensvoice.com/read-the-russell-bufalino-fbi-file/article_bc4c4679-b992-5ba0-aeff-fe6da53cfc27.html
@MrBobbybf
@MrBobbybf 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks man. please start to make videos about the killers of he flower moon. we are looking forward to knowing about it
@CineRanter
@CineRanter 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers. I have a video about KOTFM coming out in one day
@MrBobbybf
@MrBobbybf 4 жыл бұрын
@@CineRanter thanks good fella :D
@tonypro5607
@tonypro5607 4 жыл бұрын
"Everybody bleeds"
@Suave121
@Suave121 4 жыл бұрын
Badass quote
@seanspec89
@seanspec89 4 жыл бұрын
If it bleeds, we can kill it
@joshschaeffer3300
@joshschaeffer3300 3 жыл бұрын
The feds noting the meeting that Sheeran describes in his book and the fact the feds put him, buffalino in Detroit for the wedding and put Sally Bugs there all really support Sheeran. What was he meeting with Salerno about if not that? Sheeran wasnt really in the mob had he been accompanying Buffalino he wouldnt have sat with them and been part of the discussion. It had to be something very important and that he took part in directly, something Buffalino couldnt just pass along but something Sheeran needed to be there for and answer any questions as well as feel him out. He was Hoffa best friend.
@jerryjuliangutierrez7536
@jerryjuliangutierrez7536 Жыл бұрын
Kid FBI informants tell a different story and jimmy was working for the FBI at the time .Go to oc shorts at least he has real content with facts and transcripts to prove it
@Jhihmoac
@Jhihmoac 4 жыл бұрын
In the movie, Frank was the trigger man in the Crazy Joey Gallo hit in Umberto's Clam House in NYC back in 1972... There are quite a few claims that none of that was true...
@timpage5021
@timpage5021 4 жыл бұрын
Actually its entirely true. Why in the world would a man ever admit to it? It was common knowledge Sherran pulled the trigger. Sherran admitted himself because everyone wanted Joey dead. Joey was a madman who broke all the rules and threatened important money schemes because nobody wanted to do business with the crazy fuck.
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 4 жыл бұрын
@@timpage5021 Tim: its fiction. Get the fuck over it.
@ekLuca
@ekLuca 3 жыл бұрын
@@glenbellefonte9620 its not fiction. Here is Bufalinos FBI case file www.citizensvoice.com/read-the-russell-bufalino-fbi-file/article_bc4c4679-b992-5ba0-aeff-fe6da53cfc27.html Sheeran was also a top suspect before he admited anything... where do you find your information?
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 3 жыл бұрын
@@ekLuca from better sources than yourself
@ekLuca
@ekLuca 3 жыл бұрын
@@glenbellefonte9620 lol, kidergadren anwser? just list the source
@renodino3695
@renodino3695 4 жыл бұрын
Great video man!
@CineRanter
@CineRanter 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@randycunningham7318
@randycunningham7318 6 ай бұрын
Hoffa should have created his own army to go after the mob.
@stavrosrabchencko5479
@stavrosrabchencko5479 4 жыл бұрын
Great video 👍
@CineRanter
@CineRanter 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks
@sliverseek1763
@sliverseek1763 3 жыл бұрын
Not having a dig, but you should try looking into the real mob more than the films on the mob. It is a lot more interesting and vast.
@williammatthews7252
@williammatthews7252 4 жыл бұрын
IM FROM DETROIT, WE DONT NEED NO OUTSIDE HELP FROM NO OTHER FAMILIES
@dominicjefferson3229
@dominicjefferson3229 4 жыл бұрын
das cap
@josephsierzengaIV
@josephsierzengaIV 4 жыл бұрын
💯 even if you prescribe to R. Bufalino or NY/NJ Families it was Detroit who ultimately had to ok it. Keep in mind the Detroit Family has a lot of ties to NY and Bufalino through marriage. And it was Detroit who planned it out. And just FYI- everyone of those loser button men from NY/NJ who were rumored to have been involved were ALL dead within a year!
@RaLow662
@RaLow662 4 жыл бұрын
The Detroit mob was a joke compared to these other mobs. Stop it 🤣
@josephsierzengaIV
@josephsierzengaIV 4 жыл бұрын
Rayford Harris Jr they make money. Not headlines. 150M on their last insurance scam....
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 4 жыл бұрын
@@RaLow662 you watch too much TV and underestimate The Giacalone's
@nad.7512
@nad.7512 4 жыл бұрын
Was half awake and I read it as Tony hawk*
@guapsnoww9903
@guapsnoww9903 3 жыл бұрын
Me too bro
@djquinn11
@djquinn11 3 жыл бұрын
Sheeran never would have threatened a made guy, and a Ali at that, to his face. That would have been a death sentence.
@slatometer5190
@slatometer5190 4 жыл бұрын
Bruh he didnt kill hoffa
@RaLow662
@RaLow662 4 жыл бұрын
"Nobody can fuck with ya. Nobody." Before killing Hoffa " I had to involve you in this , otherwise you wouldn't let it happen. Don't call him frank"
@georgesouthwick7000
@georgesouthwick7000 3 жыл бұрын
Nobody with any knowledge of Hoffa’s disappearance believes a word of Sheeran’s fairy tale.
@manuteboler
@manuteboler 3 жыл бұрын
Except the FBI in the hoffex memo, but I guess that doesn't count.
@Vinnytalarico
@Vinnytalarico 3 жыл бұрын
They should of put this in the movie Stephen Graham & Robert would of killed a scene together in confrontation
@jonathanjames3491
@jonathanjames3491 4 жыл бұрын
why wasnt Nicky Scarfo in the movie was frm the same town
@HardTruthsReviews
@HardTruthsReviews 4 жыл бұрын
Cause Scarfo didn't take the reigns till the 80's.
@jonathanjames3491
@jonathanjames3491 4 жыл бұрын
Thats not right he was abt bfor 1966
@HardTruthsReviews
@HardTruthsReviews 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonathanjames3491 Who Scarfo? Scarfo wasn't boss till after Bruno. The 80's.
@jack604
@jack604 4 жыл бұрын
Different era bro, this was like 60-70, scarfo was 80s, by the time scarfo was a some buddy, all of these guys have been dead or in prison
@ggsinl4031
@ggsinl4031 3 жыл бұрын
when tf is this meeting in the movie tf
@edwardcapobianco2975
@edwardcapobianco2975 2 жыл бұрын
If Detroit did the hit independently of an ok from the Genovese family then there is no way in hell Detroit would allow Hoffa's body to be shipped in a drum to the Moscato brothers dump in New Jersey. It would never happen, however if Tony Pro people did the work in Detroit then they could do what they want with Hoffa's body.. according to people in the know, Sally Bugs did the hit and Tony Pro hated Hoffa so much that he insisted on seeing his dead body and that's why Hoffa is supposedly buried in a steel drum under the Pulaski Skyway bridge St the Moscato brothers dump. For those who don't know, sally bugs,tony pro and the Andretta brothers were part of the hit team that was in Detroit when Hoffa disappeared. Dan Moldea who wrote the Hoffa wars insists that Hoffa was indeed buried in Jersey at the Moscato Brothers dump. The FBI is supposed to dig up the site this summer,if they havent already done it. I guess we will find out but if it is buried there it might be the first time in history a mobster buried a body 600 miles from where it took place. It's far fetched and goes against all protocol for a hit! However ,Tony Pro hated Hoffa so much that there is a chance he insisted on seeing his body , especially if he gave the green light after getting the ok from Genovese boss fat tony Salerno.
@Gestapo93
@Gestapo93 3 жыл бұрын
Pfft Sally Bugs (Salvatore Briguglio) was the Shooter on Hoffa and Sonny Pinto (Carmine DiBiase) was the primary Shooter on Joey Gallo.
@Gestapo93
@Gestapo93 3 жыл бұрын
Lifetime studying the Mob, google those names.
@manuteboler
@manuteboler 3 жыл бұрын
I actually believe him, he didn't seem like the most selfless person, he was a drunk, he was probably barely around his family so I don't see that being a motive. He's listed in all the FBI's reports as a suspect, he was in Detroit when it happened, he was close to and trusted by Hoffa, the house be said it happened in had blood stains under the floorboards leading from the front door to the kitchen, too old to get a good l DNA sample from, what are the odds he picked a house at random that had blood stains? Him Sally bugs tony pro buffalino and Tony salarno were seen meeting together days after Hoffa dissapeared. I really don't understand why people are so convinced he's a liar, maybe they want the mystery to continue, but he is the real deal, he was involved with all the players and with the evidence it's certainly not as outlandish as people are saying.
@sabrijeemrullai4153
@sabrijeemrullai4153 4 жыл бұрын
Jimmy was a good man he had a nice family too i never wanted to go that far i picked us over him fuck em fuck em fuck em-Russell Bufalino
@4thinternational283
@4thinternational283 4 жыл бұрын
Sheeran didn't kill Hoffa.
@UkeleleStoner1992
@UkeleleStoner1992 4 жыл бұрын
4thInternational That does seem to be the consensus among people who know the most about the facts of the case.
@bradmeeds1226
@bradmeeds1226 4 жыл бұрын
So you were there the day Hoffa died?
@dannyfonseca07
@dannyfonseca07 4 жыл бұрын
Gestapo Brad multiple people said he didn’t ex fbi and mob
@williamthompson2141
@williamthompson2141 4 жыл бұрын
Wow, i didn’t know you were there
@gerrardsilver7567
@gerrardsilver7567 4 жыл бұрын
Ask yourself this would Scorsese risk making a movie about something that he didn't know was true. There is an interview with Stephen graham where he is says Pesci told him he better be good as pesci was friends with tony pro. So with that being the case who do you think could get into the middle of the mafia, investigators n so called history buffs or joe Pesci? I know who I'd believe!!
@williamtaylor5193
@williamtaylor5193 2 жыл бұрын
Sheeran was only around these guys because he was good with a shine box.
@randycunningham7318
@randycunningham7318 6 ай бұрын
I love love love this movie!
@tonypro5607
@tonypro5607 4 жыл бұрын
Fat Tony never forced Hoffa to retire .
@williammatthews7252
@williammatthews7252 4 жыл бұрын
YEAH BUT HE DIDN'T WANT HIM BACK
@billrussell7672
@billrussell7672 3 жыл бұрын
Hoffy was not hit by his man
@DrJ-hx7wv
@DrJ-hx7wv Жыл бұрын
These comments are absurd. This movie isn't a documentary. Stop pretending to be experts on mob hits.
@michaelangelocostello2599
@michaelangelocostello2599 4 жыл бұрын
Only issue is that retired mob guys stated frank didn’t kill Hoffa
@brionbraziel7968
@brionbraziel7968 4 жыл бұрын
Deny it...
@phillipt6345
@phillipt6345 4 жыл бұрын
They wouldn't tell you who did so why would they tell you who didn't???
@michaeltortorello9808
@michaeltortorello9808 3 жыл бұрын
I killed Hoffa. @😂
@henryhill6637
@henryhill6637 4 жыл бұрын
just sucks i love the movie but i don't believe one bit of Frank's story
@garyross1974
@garyross1974 3 жыл бұрын
I heard u paint houses,,,
@craigstewart1532
@craigstewart1532 4 жыл бұрын
Anybody that believes this fiction is very gullible. It's just parroting The Irishman, that was been discredited.
@nyali2
@nyali2 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mN2UmbGqtai0mnU.html
@JuanSanchez-tk4vr
@JuanSanchez-tk4vr 4 жыл бұрын
Watch HOffa the movie with Jack Nicholson. That shows the correct ending how HOffa was killed
@UAPReportingCenter
@UAPReportingCenter 4 жыл бұрын
Is there something wrong w you??? Noone else disapeared w Hoffa... He was alone in both movies he disappears from the red fox... But he was NOT killed at the red fox.
@JuanSanchez-tk4vr
@JuanSanchez-tk4vr 4 жыл бұрын
@@UAPReportingCenter fuck you asshole. My point is he was not killed by Frank like The Irishman depicts. He was killed by the Mob
@UAPReportingCenter
@UAPReportingCenter 4 жыл бұрын
Here's a guy who absolutely has no clue what hes talking about... Keep watching movies dumbass.
@glenbellefonte9620
@glenbellefonte9620 4 жыл бұрын
@@JuanSanchez-tk4vr Juan, shut up. You sound like a fool.
@delorh
@delorh 2 жыл бұрын
Good movie but lies by Sheeran
@kennethmorgan6516
@kennethmorgan6516 3 жыл бұрын
Thumbs down, for taking Sheehan seriously.
@bksalkrook8716
@bksalkrook8716 4 жыл бұрын
I don’t believe anything frank says all I know is the Genovese family ( Tony pro ) was related to tony jack through marriage had the capability to kill Hoffa using there own men to carry it out !! They diddnt need frank Sheehan at all they both had capable shooters in there family s why do they need frank ?
@DetectiveNineHD
@DetectiveNineHD 4 жыл бұрын
I always believe frank whacked Hoffa the only person to get close
@bksalkrook8716
@bksalkrook8716 4 жыл бұрын
DetectiveNineHD We know that can’t be true ,, because we know there’s was more than 1 person in the car when Jimmy was picked up ,, witnesses testified ,,than changed there stories ,,, the metting as you know was to be with Tony pro and tony jack 2 powerful captains ,, dont you think it would make sense to have there people pick up jimmy ? Made men ,, that would have got Hoffa in the car !!Frank it was already proven was not in the area ,,movie producers knew these facts and turner a blind eye to these facts
@whatsgoingon07
@whatsgoingon07 4 жыл бұрын
Out of respect to Buffalino
@bksalkrook8716
@bksalkrook8716 4 жыл бұрын
If tony pro and tony jack set it up which I believe they did of course they had other important people in the car ,, Tony jacks brother// sally bugs andrada bro’s and jimmys step son ,, yes
@calipharifai7693
@calipharifai7693 4 жыл бұрын
@mobtalkradio
@jamiewilson8253
@jamiewilson8253 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I listened to that the other day,well some of it.They claimed Bufalino "ordered " the hit on sam giancana,Now iirc he was due to testify to a Senate committee hearing ,but Bufalino wouldn't have the power to "order" a hit on giancana,there'd have been a sit down at least.
@calipharifai7693
@calipharifai7693 4 жыл бұрын
Jamie Wilson Jeff always discredits the Detroit family on this subject.. Frank’s books details what this video is saying about Ny not ordering or opposing the hit and Detroit has a HUGE say so In it. .. I love @mobtalkradio but Jeff always hates on the Detroit faction so hard and always downplays them. He has bin saying he is gonna do a show on Detroit. For the last 6 months. Either he is too embarrassed to say he doesn’t have intel and knowledgeable information about them or just straight hater.
@jamiewilson8253
@jamiewilson8253 4 жыл бұрын
@@calipharifai7693 Do you watch the Al Profit stuff on KZfaq?
@calipharifai7693
@calipharifai7693 4 жыл бұрын
Jamie Wilson yes sir. “Killing hoffa” Aswell as mob confidential , about the Detroit faction
@aryrosh4344
@aryrosh4344 4 жыл бұрын
too much talk in this movie which after all many experts of the subject say *Shiran IS NOT the killer of Jimmy HoFFA* the book is just a very good movie. that's not.
@robertventola4301
@robertventola4301 4 жыл бұрын
Sally bugs killed hoffa not sheeran! Do your research before you say im wrong🤷🏼‍♂️
@joannerogers6852
@joannerogers6852 4 жыл бұрын
robert ventola why would hoffa get in a car with Sally bugs, unless Bufalino was there. Noooooo waaay
@dobson.
@dobson. 4 жыл бұрын
@@joannerogers6852 You're wrong
@shinola
@shinola 4 жыл бұрын
I did zero research, and you’re wrong.
@jonsnipe5484
@jonsnipe5484 4 жыл бұрын
Its just speculating.. Theres still no proof.. Michael franz says the killer is alive and in jail but wont name names
@alexandermacdougall7873
@alexandermacdougall7873 3 жыл бұрын
Sheeran's story has more lies than a Trump speech. Decent movie,but way too long. Overrated film. Not Scorsese's best work
@cruzmizzl
@cruzmizzl 3 жыл бұрын
The biggest butchering in these vids are the way these names are pronounced... Is ok for the more ethnic[Italian] names, but O' fng Brian? ,,, yep- don't try too hard kid.
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