Took Me 4 Years To Figure This Out

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Hometown Acres

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Today I talk about how to sharpen a chainsaw chain. I cover some tips and tricks I’ve learned over the years for getting a razor sharp chainsaw chain
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@user-ju7dx8mu6d
@user-ju7dx8mu6d 2 жыл бұрын
As I was taught by a faller fifty years ago now, start with the file low and as it moves forward twist the file in your hand and lift. This covers the whole face of the tooth from bottom to top in one pass and spinning the file uses the whole file and helps to keep it clean. Use only 2 or three passes, sharpen lightly but frequently.
@pssst3
@pssst3 2 жыл бұрын
Twist shouldn't be needed. Round files are spiral ground.
@blackjeep2005
@blackjeep2005 2 жыл бұрын
Amen brother that's how I do it and Never drag a file backwards .
@michaelpatrickmilligan
@michaelpatrickmilligan 2 жыл бұрын
I don't think his point was about better sharpening per se, but to twist in order to use the entire file surface to avoid clogging up one side of the file with sawdust.
@dwighthires3163
@dwighthires3163 2 жыл бұрын
William that is exactly the technique I learned in the woods when I was falling except it included Edward Lester's comment to never drag a file backwards. I cringe when I see someone drag a file.
@goodrabbi7176
@goodrabbi7176 2 жыл бұрын
@@dwighthires3163 dragging a file does almost nothing negative compared to lifting and resetting. There have been scientific experiments done, and they showed no average difference. Just FYI.
@330capt
@330capt 3 жыл бұрын
Been cutting with, and sharpening, chain saws for 48 years now. My favorite hobby. This video has VERY good insights and advice. I personally use one hand for the file, and the other gloved hand to hold the tooth steady in the bar's slot....makes for a consistent mating file to tooth. I also, as noted below, put a 1/4 turn twist in each stroke....razor sharp, friends. Enjoy...stay warm...and be safe!
@buzzblitzer750
@buzzblitzer750 3 жыл бұрын
I’ve been falling timber in British Columbia since I was a teen. Hand sharpening is the only way to go, two firm passes with the right size file on either side, one pass on the rakers every third sharpening, takes about five minutes on a 24” bar and with practice to get the angle memorized, you should have big bright chips every time.
@mcmuskie2563
@mcmuskie2563 2 жыл бұрын
Agree
@jamesoldman3021
@jamesoldman3021 2 жыл бұрын
Me thinkus this guy has to be a slow learner! Four years. And I agree with you, hand sharpening is the best.
@troyrussell3370
@troyrussell3370 2 жыл бұрын
I file every other fill
@SWheatleyOutdoors
@SWheatleyOutdoors 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty much exactly what I do while on the fire line.
@nmoran2046
@nmoran2046 2 жыл бұрын
Well buzz not knowing how old you are now sharpening is an art form doesn’t matter what your sharpening I understand but I’m kind of picky about how shit gets sharpened I have a jig because I’m a homeowner when you’re in the field you give her tits he could take this back in the shop sharpen it up shit he’s at home he should have more than one chain ready to go but it is an art form you don’t do it right you just throw that chain in the garbage sorry I’m rambling Unfortunately for this fella he spent a lot of money on junk
@truongnguyenquang93
@truongnguyenquang93 11 ай бұрын
I was running this saw for about 2 hours at about a 30-50% duty cycle kzfaq.infoUgkxfQm1wmg0ItKDLavxj1nXtQY9HP7EF504 and it did a great job. I used the lever for the built in sharpener to clear chip buildup out more than to actually sharpen the chain. It managed to cut some hardwood stumps much larger than it's size without bothering the neighbors with hours of 2 stroke noise.
@TheReal1953
@TheReal1953 6 ай бұрын
Yeah, but where is the fun in that? Seriously though, electric chainsaws have a long way to go to compete with big pro saws. For smaller timber, they can be useful.
@obus5260
@obus5260 3 жыл бұрын
All the information I've found about hand filing is quite adament to avoid dragging files back against the material. Make a filing stroke, lift the file away and then have another go, but not back and forth like a washboard. Good video. Nice presentation and no wasted time. Thank you.
@jasonthurston799
@jasonthurston799 2 жыл бұрын
Look again, that's a myth, kzfaq.info/get/bejne/rsipnsyUkpO3e3U.html
@raytyre750
@raytyre750 2 жыл бұрын
I'm an arborist that's been running and sharpening saws for over 40 years. The Stihl and Pferd 2 in 1 sharpeners are the best thing going. Files your rakers to proper depth and sharpens the cutter at the same time. Try em, you won't be disappointed.
@gusm5128
@gusm5128 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed mate , just picked up two of those . Work fantastic
@reallife9036
@reallife9036 Жыл бұрын
I enjoy stihl sharpener just as much as holding a loose file=)
@raytyre750
@raytyre750 Жыл бұрын
@@reallife9036 My enjoyment comes when I stick it in the tree and the chips fly.
@indigatorveritatis8891
@indigatorveritatis8891 Жыл бұрын
@@raytyre750 Absolutely agree. The efficiency is unmatched, especially out in the field.
@gunterbecker8528
@gunterbecker8528 29 күн бұрын
Guys learn to file by hand,nothing beats it "LEARN TO FILE " !!!
@K31011
@K31011 2 жыл бұрын
Always good to seek out advice, Im always learning. My buddy saved me a ton of time early on by telling me to switch to a shorter bar. Shorter bar less equals less sharpening time. He's been in the wood business for 40 years and like most have said already use good files and sharpen often there's really no shortcuts to getting a sharp chain. Its absurd how many times a tooth hits the ground even with the slightest touch. The older I get the more aware I am of wearing protective gear. One slip to the leg alone in the woods and your probably finished without a tourniquet. Im embarrassed to admit how little I knew about chainsaws when I started 30 years ago, wish I had KZfaq.
@wittsend1961
@wittsend1961 2 жыл бұрын
I ran both 16 and 18 inch bar for decades cutting firewood. Last year I bought a stihl 362 cm with a 25 inch bar and just bought a stihl 500i with a 25 inch light bar.. My back feels relieved... BTW 61 here... " stand up and buck "
@dannysulyma6273
@dannysulyma6273 Жыл бұрын
@@wittsend1961 I find filing less painful then a sore back, run the biggest bar that your saw can comfortably handle, my Stihl 066 is nicely balanced with a 33" bar but the 36 is easier to handle. Running skip tooth chain makes filing quicker but I don't know how well it works in hardwood, living in coastal BC it's all softwoods.
@brucejanacek6263
@brucejanacek6263 2 жыл бұрын
As a tool grinder for 35 years the rake angle ( the area that the chip follows after cut) is the most important. To keep that correct I use a file holder. It also shows the angle to the tooth. Well worth the time and money.
@dalyjolly5891
@dalyjolly5891 3 жыл бұрын
It's so sl to hear anybody freely say "this took me four years to figure out." Props to you for being a humble guy and passing along your well-earned knowledge. Obviously good folks watching the video, too. Merry Christmas, y'all.
@MattulaTaylor
@MattulaTaylor 3 жыл бұрын
Good man... for sure
@BRICSlayer
@BRICSlayer Жыл бұрын
sl?!
@jimmccullough1051
@jimmccullough1051 3 жыл бұрын
I take a paint pen and mark what will be my first tooth, when it comes around it is time to change direction and to the opposite facing teeth, until the marked one comes around again. No counting or losing count.
@123hotdog111
@123hotdog111 3 жыл бұрын
Me too. I use a red sharpie.
@HometownAcres
@HometownAcres 3 жыл бұрын
I use a black sharpie. Forgot to mention that
@sharkman8810
@sharkman8810 3 жыл бұрын
I just start at the odd colored link all the time. I think this is the link that they use when they "make" the chain.
@123hotdog111
@123hotdog111 3 жыл бұрын
@@HometownAcres My eyes aren't what they used to be. Hard for me to see the black one.
@trwilkinson4623
@trwilkinson4623 3 жыл бұрын
@@sharkman8810 told, if Stihl chain, the coloured link indicates if safety or pro type chain build. Green, safety, low kickback etc Orange, more experienced operators, less protection built-in. More aggressive cut.
@cameronbartlett6593
@cameronbartlett6593 2 жыл бұрын
What a lifestyle. I start my morning by dropping a couple of logs, then at work I fell a few logs and at night I'm stihl sawing logs. These vids give me a woody! I gotta leaf now. See ya fellers!
@stewartwinterwizardgoat9375
@stewartwinterwizardgoat9375 2 жыл бұрын
You are very special
@failingdisciple938
@failingdisciple938 3 жыл бұрын
I applaud you for posting this vid and subjecting yourself to all the experts who shower you with their self righteous wisdom. They want everyone to believe they fell out of a vagina knowing how to sharpen a chain
@OutdoorswithErik
@OutdoorswithErik 3 жыл бұрын
LOL
@danryan3146
@danryan3146 3 жыл бұрын
Well said.
@billtmarchi4320
@billtmarchi4320 3 жыл бұрын
If yoyre falling out of vaginas then you got bigger (or smaller) problems than a dull chain. My advice is to take shorter strokes ...
@intelbreak
@intelbreak 3 жыл бұрын
Some of us actual did though.. so its not that big of a deal if people want to help. It's just the rude or arrogant people that can jump off.
@breakbollocks9164
@breakbollocks9164 3 жыл бұрын
More than 50 % of younger folks never fell out of a vagina, their mums had Caesarian deliveries. How about yours? ;-)
@j.chrisbeck7492
@j.chrisbeck7492 3 жыл бұрын
Helpful hint: tighten your chain before you file, it keeps it in the guide groove, and helps you maintain better angles
@bobnewman534
@bobnewman534 2 жыл бұрын
I hold each tooth with one hand and sharpen with the other. That gives me the best control.
@j.chrisbeck7492
@j.chrisbeck7492 2 жыл бұрын
@@bobnewman534 I do that as well, reduces file chatter
@edwardfinn4141
@edwardfinn4141 3 жыл бұрын
As some others have said: 1. Tighten - over tighten the chain for sharpening, this keeps the file and tooth at 90 deg. 2. Make sure you have the right size file, it’s usually written on the box of a new chain. Buy two files per chain. 3.File - push the file- towards the sharpened edge only, do not draw it back across the tooth on the backstroke. 4. Those new file guides with two round files and one flat file combined made by, Stihl and others, work well. 5. Maintain the proper angle horizontally between the file and the bar, ie. parallel to the hatch marks on the each tooth. 5. Practise man Practise, I got better at it as I sharpened more. Eventually, it becomes a ‘zen’ thing, Relaxing , and I love doing it! 6. Definitely clamp the saw in a vice, as shown.
@mrbrown6421
@mrbrown6421 3 жыл бұрын
Excellent summary. I sharpen my saws with EVERY tank of gas. 2 or 3 strokes per tooth. Quick and easy. North Central Florida
@shultz550
@shultz550 3 жыл бұрын
That rig made by stihl with the 2 rounds and 1 flat is the best sharpening rig out I use my every tank of gas and do 3 passes per tooth cuts like butter and str8. Best 40$ I ever spent
@kokkinias
@kokkinias 3 жыл бұрын
Ι use Stihl and it is amazing. However, there is a small metal "tool" to calibrate the guide in between the teeth
@chasshaw7111
@chasshaw7111 3 жыл бұрын
@@kokkinias hi are you referring to calibrating the Stihl 3-file sharpener? Please provide more info.
@kokkinias
@kokkinias 3 жыл бұрын
@@chasshaw7111 hey, no in case you don't have the three and only the classic one sharpner, there is an extra small metal device which shows you how much you have to remove from the guide inbetwen. I will try to find it and send you the link
@ladydretza
@ladydretza 2 жыл бұрын
This is exactly how my Father taught me to sharpen the chain years ago, he is an industrial machine re-builder, Lovely tutorial.
@matteogomez3678
@matteogomez3678 3 жыл бұрын
Also try turning or rotating the file as part of your stroke to use your whole file and minimize build up on the file 👍 kool video Adam
@randysizemore7243
@randysizemore7243 3 жыл бұрын
Best advise I've gotten on here is don't let you chain get to dull they say to brighten it up every tank of gas but i get by with every 2 tanks hand file still works great.
@alkaufmann2039
@alkaufmann2039 3 жыл бұрын
Love your "no nonsense" videos. Another good one Adam. Looking forward to your livestream with shifty!
@getsum697
@getsum697 3 жыл бұрын
Great video and in-depth explanation. I have an old chain sharpening machine from the 70's that I bought at a farm estate sale for $30. So far, that is all I have needed...but, it is good to continue to broaden one's skillset. I appreciate the knowledge shared.
@joycehosaflook3755
@joycehosaflook3755 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, I’d like to confirm the Stihl 2 in 1 does a great job of filing the tooth and depth guide with perfect distance from tooth to depth guide. Also to stand out better I use old fashioned white out to mark the first tooth. Gary
@randystrand908
@randystrand908 2 жыл бұрын
I like the white-out idea to mark the starter tooth. I've been using kids colored sidewalk chalk. I put it on the side of the tooth.
@jlyn9047
@jlyn9047 2 жыл бұрын
I use my wife’s old fingernail polish , red is good !
@mikebrennan3451
@mikebrennan3451 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the tips Adam. I’m new to firewood and chainsaws and need to work on filing my own chains soon.
@joehodgen7728
@joehodgen7728 3 жыл бұрын
i been working with a chainsaw all my life ,and today . the first filling on my new chain is the sharpest that chain will ever be. sharper than factory .
@luvbigiron
@luvbigiron 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I've been through the same evolution of saw sharpening you have (in processing firewood) and I've come to the same conclusion. Hand filing and examining the tooth gullet, depth gage, and tip close up is the key to getting that "out of the box" performance.
@intelbreak
@intelbreak 3 жыл бұрын
My family owned a mower store. I am a small engine mechanic. Certified briggs and stratton tech, I have sharpened more than 1000 chains in my life. We prefer Oregon Semi Chisel at 3/8. The flat teeth hold their edge longer and bounce off debris, the hogged out kind have a sharper thinner edge that blunts faster and hooks onto debris which can snap the tooth off completely. I have seen chains run into star pickets, fencing wire, Nails, Screws.. you name it :D I came to say you got it right. Well done. As others have said tighten the chain and don't file on the backstroke. Make sure to file the rakers down under the level of the tooth peak if the teeth are really worn down. (raker height gauge preferred) Thanks for taking the time out to teach others.
@bjwrobel4107
@bjwrobel4107 3 жыл бұрын
Stihl 2 and 1 file I’ve been hand filing my chains for 20 years got it for Christmas last year simple easy and works great
@1d1hamby
@1d1hamby 3 жыл бұрын
I find it takes the rakers down too far for me. I gave mine away. I like to tune the chain to the power saw with the wood I'm currently cutting.
@nicholashomler1494
@nicholashomler1494 3 жыл бұрын
@@1d1hamby the stihl tool is simple to use for quick mindless sharpening. I've never seen a faster way to sharpen, doesn't mean it's perfect just easy.
@michaelhalter5007
@michaelhalter5007 3 жыл бұрын
Fact.. I tired every which way... and the Stihl one is just the best one I have found so far... yes its not like they are out of the box and the old timers can still out sharpen it but for out in the field on the fly it really really made it easy for me to get my saw back into shape fast
@fabzacres-blackcat
@fabzacres-blackcat 3 жыл бұрын
Take the raker file out of the 2in1 and just use the round files if the rakers are too low A few sharpenings later the rakers will be back in spec .... rinse and repeat
@briankennedy1313
@briankennedy1313 3 жыл бұрын
Fabz Acres 100% correct. The raker files are not set correctly on the 2 in 1. Wrong angle and way too much off.
@duanehoflin9687
@duanehoflin9687 3 жыл бұрын
Been sharpening chains with a file since I was ten. Using two hands like he does always crowns the tooth. Much easier using one hand and tighten the chain more so the teeth don’t roll back and move around. Use my thumb on one side of the tooth to stabilize it. Have never had a problem sharpening a saw this way and always a out of the box result.
@cjpirotelli8640
@cjpirotelli8640 3 жыл бұрын
I find shoving a wedge on the underside between the bar & chain you will achieve ultra tension reducing the tacking of the chain during sharpening. Once you have complete one or a couple teeth take the wedge out move it along & re-wedge it. Handy trick to free up the other hand if you want to refine alternative motions, angles & twisting. But I bet you can do a wicked sharpen if you've been doing it since 10yrs
@martinkerker1190
@martinkerker1190 3 жыл бұрын
Duane, How old are you now, 11?
@timberslasher4899
@timberslasher4899 3 жыл бұрын
@@martinkerker1190 good one bro...🤣
@cedarberryclanblackberryac6447
@cedarberryclanblackberryac6447 3 жыл бұрын
I always try to think of it like sharpening the chain and cutting a little wood in between sessions....
@darkhelmet4279
@darkhelmet4279 3 жыл бұрын
Make sure you're file isn't dull. They are cheap and a new one can save a ton of time
@cutlets6152
@cutlets6152 3 жыл бұрын
Eventually, you'll learn to sharpen with one motion that effects the gullet as well as the cutting edge. You'll know when you see the file "marry" the top cutting edge. 3 strokes is usually all that it takes for a non abused chain. Be sure to use a 7/32 file for 3/8th chain. Was a professional logger and have been cutting wood for 45 yrs. Needed to hand sharpen a 20" bar in under 4 minutes.
@hdj81Vlimited
@hdj81Vlimited 3 жыл бұрын
THat is how i do it. make first the gully round, and with the right size file you see the top of the teeth get sharped and make a brim on it.
@pimweeboyofrainforest6965
@pimweeboyofrainforest6965 3 жыл бұрын
Cool
@joehodgen7728
@joehodgen7728 3 жыл бұрын
if you cant keep sharp , you cant keep up , we dont need ya . lol
@wwgbert
@wwgbert 3 жыл бұрын
What brand of chain and file do you prefer? Thanks in advance!
@cutlets6152
@cutlets6152 3 жыл бұрын
@@wwgbert Pherd for the files and Sthil for chains.
@ian9toes
@ian9toes 3 жыл бұрын
I took a white marker and marked 30 degree angles on the vice jaws to guide my filling.
@chamberb01
@chamberb01 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you very much for posting this. Been using a saw myself for about 3 years and have never paid attention to the gullet. Nice work!
@colbyscott9822
@colbyscott9822 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't realize how little interaction with the ground it actually takes to dull a saw. I knew not to cut into the ground but I thought incidental contact here and there wouldn't hurt. So wrong. That little bit will save me a lot in the future. Thank you!
@claytonmaccartny5237
@claytonmaccartny5237 3 жыл бұрын
basically the only video that actually teaches you how to sharpen a chain correctly.
@PatrickFarrell_KJV
@PatrickFarrell_KJV 3 жыл бұрын
Stihl makes the 2 in 1 file. Excellent tool. It’s all I use now.
@wsfd4321
@wsfd4321 3 жыл бұрын
I just bought a generic 2 in 1 myself, but haven't had the opportunity to use it yet.
@PatrickFarrell_KJV
@PatrickFarrell_KJV 3 жыл бұрын
@@wsfd4321 since I’ve been using it, and got good with it, I haven’t used anything else since. Great tool that’s worth the money.
@vincentshelton6978
@vincentshelton6978 3 жыл бұрын
This is what I use also. Great tool.
@scottwarren8847
@scottwarren8847 3 жыл бұрын
I was gonna leave the same comment. The wheel has been reinvented!
@PatrickFarrell_KJV
@PatrickFarrell_KJV 3 жыл бұрын
@@scottwarren8847 yes, sir, when used properly, that’s all ya need.
@johnmcneal9477
@johnmcneal9477 3 жыл бұрын
Years ago I worked for the US Forest Service and I spent the entire summer on a four man crew thinning and cutting standing timber to reduce the fire loads around a couple of big camp grounds that had major die off from spruce bark beetles. We were not required to buck or limb the downed timber, just get as many on the ground in a week as we could. I discovered that if I did a quick touch up with the file every time or every other time I fueled up that I was able to drop more trees on a tank of fuel then the others. The saw just ran more efficiently and it only took a couple of minutes once you learned the tricks of hand sharpening. The other advantage of always having a sharp chain was that I was much more accurate and had less hang ups then the others. A couple of guys consistently had issues and a few close calls and it almost always came back to them not taking care of their saws and or chain maintenance.
@randystrand908
@randystrand908 2 жыл бұрын
Excellent comment!
@mickwaite2532
@mickwaite2532 4 ай бұрын
The steel to the one filing system works yet change my chainsaw life
@zeke112964
@zeke112964 3 жыл бұрын
They sell a gauge to set the height of the rakers
@chuckcooke1111
@chuckcooke1111 3 жыл бұрын
Ironically I discovered hand filing does the best sharpening also. Been sharpening with a bench grinder 16 years and found last week that a file does the best job... thanks for confirming
@srdavis37
@srdavis37 3 жыл бұрын
Ditto! Tried a few gadgets. None lived up to their hype. I always went back to hand filing, but after a few times doing so I got "diminishing returns". This is the first person I recall that talks about the gullet in a clear fashion.
@jamessheehan1045
@jamessheehan1045 3 жыл бұрын
Amen
@rondean2009
@rondean2009 3 жыл бұрын
Old fashioned way . No gadgets or guides needed . My Sthil has a faint line at the back of each tooth to show correct angle for the tooth . Use anything as a straight edge across two teeth , to see your Raker height . No special tools to be bought or stored or carried along . May need more practice , and seeking good advice ( but ) Ironically , training your hand and eye , gives pretty good results . Cheers
@grahamdeere3104
@grahamdeere3104 2 жыл бұрын
Simple tips took me years to learn(!) : 1) Color a tooth top with a Sharpie so you can quickly see when your sharpening loop is complete. 2) Over time the sawbar groove top surface can flatten out beyond the bar edge so I file away the splay both sides to restore uniform bar thickness. 3) If you don't have a grapple but have a tractor bucket with/without digging teeth, roll the log against the bucket edge on the ground with a cant hook then tie the cant hook handle to your upper center bucket hook (or use a hook on your tie for the bucket top lip) then lift the log so you have an instant sawhorse regardless. 4) Use a wire brush or hatchet away any underlog dirt at each area to be finish-cut before you finish the cut -through after your 75% upper log cuts even if you've no way to lift your log and/or keep it mud-free.
@edarnold1426
@edarnold1426 3 жыл бұрын
Great tips! I have always taken my file 5 to 7 time past the depth gauge. I find that I can cut 3 to 4 as much wood before a sharpening. It was a old tip that my father in-law taught me years back. Not a good idea for a one handed tree saw working from a bucket though!
@jessiewinegeart3898
@jessiewinegeart3898 3 жыл бұрын
I quit sharpening freehand 45 years ago. I use a Granberg jig. This maintains the angles I want for hard and soft woods, keeps me from over-filing and saves me a lot of money on chain. The jig fits in my tool bag and I can use it anywhere. While it won’t give me a new ‘out-of-the-box’ chain it’s close and makes cross-cutting and ripping much more productive and yes... There’s that great feeling I get when the saw cuts like going through butter. Good video.
@blessedtobealive7477
@blessedtobealive7477 3 жыл бұрын
Another tip (you may already know this ) I learned last year that the most efficient way to saw through wood , is in fact the rocking back and forth from nose to dogs pretty well , not just straight cut where you leave your saw level and cut through that way , it helped me alot
@rondean2009
@rondean2009 3 жыл бұрын
Righteous good comment . Shorter cutting surface . Maybe not technically correct , but experiment and find different techniques you like . Cheers
@davidsignor7931
@davidsignor7931 Жыл бұрын
Sharp chain no need to do that put the saw in and let it eat
@beyondEV
@beyondEV Жыл бұрын
good tip, if you don't saw clean wood. (e.g. clear loads of small trees / bug bushes), where you need to saw near the ground. often you have dirt on and in the wood (sometimes even small gravel). so the chain dulls extremely quickly. can't stop every 5 min to resharpen.
@richardried4197
@richardried4197 Жыл бұрын
Rocking the saw cuts slower always
@doug4772
@doug4772 3 жыл бұрын
I've had really good results with the Stihl 2-1 sharpening tool. I know, it looks like a gimmick but it works and it's easy! Wranglerstar tested it on his channel and was surprised and impressed. Sharpens all of these edges in one pass.
@patrickbryant1159
@patrickbryant1159 3 жыл бұрын
Great sharpening tips! A bench sharpening trick I’ve found helpful is using long nose vice grips to clamp the chain to the bar. Also, I’d set rackers first, in case I accidentally nick the cutting edge. Thanks!
@LogOXUSA
@LogOXUSA 3 жыл бұрын
Great video, thanks for mentioning our LogOX 3-in-1 Forestry MultiTool as a good solution to this common problem. Along with helping you buck up logs as a cant hook or timberjack, when set up as a Hauler it's also useful for moving rounds and loading a log splitter while taking much of the strain off of your back and arms.
@glenn5ft19
@glenn5ft19 3 жыл бұрын
If you flip the saw upside down in the vice, the body of the saw is out of the way and you can sharpen more teeth without moving the chain. Also when you have a brand new file use nice light strokes until you break it in. The files are acid sharpened and the cutting edges are very fragile. If you put too much pressure on those edges big chunks break off making the file dull. If you use light strokes then just little chunks break off keeping a sharper file.
@billthebax5578
@billthebax5578 3 жыл бұрын
I didn’t know about a file being fragile at first and the break in (and I know just about everything 😂) thanks for the tip.
@edgarharris111
@edgarharris111 3 жыл бұрын
My dad taught me that :-) About honing in new files, band saws, hacksaws, etc.
@dougn4942
@dougn4942 3 жыл бұрын
I knew about the acid sharpening of the files. But break in time I didn't, maybe that's why my files suck after a while 😂😂😂👊😎 common sense right in front of you... you just don't think about it. 👊😎🤪 thanks for the tip.
@glenn5ft19
@glenn5ft19 3 жыл бұрын
@@dougn4942 👍
@ateleskier7066
@ateleskier7066 3 жыл бұрын
Nope, I never knew that. Cheers.
@craigsudman4556
@craigsudman4556 3 жыл бұрын
Ok that was the most informative demo on saw sharpening that I've seen. Good stuff Adam, thumbs up.
@marksalamack6133
@marksalamack6133 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for taking the time to make the video!
@WatzaMataU.
@WatzaMataU. Жыл бұрын
You have no idea how much your video has helped. It is amazing
@brainspiller666
@brainspiller666 3 жыл бұрын
My teacher always said when it is below zero and/or the wood is covered in snow, the chain will get dull faster than in non frozen wood. I will try to wipe the snow of or just knock it of with another piece of wood. I myself and my co workers at work always use these file guides that you put on the file, they will help with sharpening the edge of the cutters and in the same pass creating the half moon shape. If used in the right way, those guides guarantee a sharp chain
@kimbieandi
@kimbieandi 2 жыл бұрын
Wood that is "frozen" in the winter, is easier to cut than wood in the warmer weather. Has to do with the cells in the wood.
@What-is-happening
@What-is-happening 2 жыл бұрын
If you are cutting frozen green wood try sharpening your chain a little more square with the bar and step up one size with your file. It won’t cut quite as fast but it will not dull as quickly.
@MyClutteredGarage
@MyClutteredGarage 3 жыл бұрын
Nicely done, Adam. Thanks for sharing. -Ed
@Sheafs_RC
@Sheafs_RC 2 жыл бұрын
My man. I've been running chainsaws pretty often now for a few months and this video was on point. Thanks.
@bksaun
@bksaun 3 жыл бұрын
Never pull a file backwards, it rolls the teeth over, wears it out quicker and just like your saw blade, makes it cut inefficiently.
@rolandedrummer9723
@rolandedrummer9723 3 жыл бұрын
It hurts to watch
@cellerfeller1474
@cellerfeller1474 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed - don't cut on the backstroke, roll the file but first thing to do is to check the "points" on the teeth. Each tooth should have a nice sharp angle on the point. If the point is rolled, beat or burred at all it will shine - the light collects on the roll. You have to get rid of the rolled edge and make a sharp point or all your sharpening will be wasted. I used to cut and pile 5 cord of pulpwood a day. The guy working the strip next to me cut and piled 7 cord a day and he only had one lung. He felt bad for me one day and showed me the bad points on my chain and helped me with sharpening. Quick way to get rid of a rolled point is to use a one size over file on the point to get the nice V then use a proper size to get under the top edge and roll in for the crescent moon. File stroke, roll, lift and no back drag.
@forestMog
@forestMog 2 жыл бұрын
@@cellerfeller1474 Reading all the good comments makes me wonder why the big corporations don’t give precise instructions for filing. Thanks youtube!
@philgriswold2133
@philgriswold2133 3 жыл бұрын
I'm old school and I have always felt I do a better job with a hand file. I think that touch ups are important too. If the chain isn't really dull, just a quick job will help a lot. I have used the Stihl all-in-one sharpener, but I still like hand sharpening.
@1d1hamby
@1d1hamby 3 жыл бұрын
Same.
@matthewellul1259
@matthewellul1259 2 жыл бұрын
the issue i see with the all in one is the flat file wears down and the guys only change out the tooth file. It really annoys me because it really screws up how the whole setup gets.. and then the complain about strange things that start happening and dont bother to realise what the real issue is
@paujeppesen6567
@paujeppesen6567 3 жыл бұрын
Buckin Billy Ray All you need to know about chainsaw and how to.
@paulweakley3440
@paulweakley3440 3 жыл бұрын
Buckin Billy Ray is the expert of experts on axes and wood splitting. Love that guy
@hdj81Vlimited
@hdj81Vlimited 3 жыл бұрын
its just common sence and look at the mirror from the glaze from file in the material.
@davidbryant5844
@davidbryant5844 3 жыл бұрын
Friends , I watched tons of hand filing videos. I sucked. I watched Billy one time all the way through paid attention and the first time I sharpen the chain with a file after that I was a pro.
@canamrider7195
@canamrider7195 3 жыл бұрын
@@davidbryant5844 I agree. I learned more from Buckin in one video then I did in years just going at it on my own. His eye-in-the-sky close ups that got me to put on some reading glasses and take a good look at exactly what I was doing. It was a game changer.
@fredgrove1133
@fredgrove1133 3 жыл бұрын
Get the gullet! I've done this as well and it really makes a difference. Thanks Adam!
@donniebargo964
@donniebargo964 2 жыл бұрын
That is a really good informative video sir I've been sharpening my chainsaws by hand since I was 12 years old and I'm 50 now
@ddwmc
@ddwmc 2 жыл бұрын
I think a good thing to mention is sometimes you may need an over sized round file for your chain or an under sized round file on hand because sometimes pending the shape of the tooth on the chain you will need it for correcting damaged teeth. It helps get the half moon shape back perfectly
@Comp670
@Comp670 3 жыл бұрын
I use the little oregon bits like you showed EXCEPT I put them in a die grinder that spins 20,000 rpm and I get my chains razor sharp. I actually sharpen brand new chains before using them because I can get them to cut better. Also the other thing A LOT of people dont do like you said is lower the rakers as they sharpen a chain over and over. The rakers are what sets how deep of a cut each tooth on the chain takes. If you sharpen the chain over and over and dont lower the rakers it will never cut well.. You can adjust the rakers based on the HP of your saw, more HP the lower you can set them and really make some chips.. The other thing is that chain you show is a "safety chain" with rolled over rakers and they dont cut nearly as well as a "pro" chain with just straight up rakers....
@njonebale7889
@njonebale7889 3 жыл бұрын
true! homey is using a beginner chain, needs to run chisel skip chains, probably cut that tiny log in three seconds.
@1d1hamby
@1d1hamby 3 жыл бұрын
@@njonebale7889, full chisel chain definitely cut faster, but also dull faster. Sounds like he's dealing with a lot of dirty wood, so a semi chisel chain might be the better option for him. Especially if he hasn't learned the different techniques in cutting wood, so he doesn't drag the dirt through the wood when he makes his cuts.
@silentkow5822
@silentkow5822 3 жыл бұрын
Are all saftey chains supposed to have the depth gauges folded over like that? Pretty sure the chains I use on my ms250 are saftey chains (has the green link) and the rakers are straight up
@rondean2009
@rondean2009 3 жыл бұрын
Good info about rolled over rakers . Then comments about semi chisel and such
@mcmuskie2563
@mcmuskie2563 2 жыл бұрын
Grinding takes off to much metal and heats up the metal to weaken the metal, it also effects the Angel. Stihl makes an awesome Sharpener that lowers the rack to the perfect point at the same time. In other words I disagree with you.
@SkinnerFarms
@SkinnerFarms 3 жыл бұрын
New friend here from arms family homestead, thanks for sharing I also cut firewood and this is great information! Stay safe!
@ryandesrochers2618
@ryandesrochers2618 3 жыл бұрын
Use the Stihl 2 in 1 file holder, it gets your rakers and the tooth perfectly every time you sharpen, it even has an angle guide to help you.
@matthewellul1259
@matthewellul1259 2 жыл бұрын
make sure you change out all files at the same time when needed. i work with guys that only change the tooth file and it screws everything up..
@dennisconstantine624
@dennisconstantine624 2 жыл бұрын
It helps a lot to tighten your chain so you can just comfortably turn from tooth to tooth, this makes it more rigid and easier to sharpen.
@kenstirling5348
@kenstirling5348 3 жыл бұрын
I have that same bit you referenced early in the video. Use that thing in a dremel and it’s awesome. I have had good look with it. Will try your file method sometime too though
@HometownAcres
@HometownAcres 3 жыл бұрын
Hey Ken, yes it does work and it will definitely shave down on your cut time. I just haven’t found to give a really really sharp chain!
@TimberTrainer
@TimberTrainer 3 жыл бұрын
Good job explaining the parts of chain and their functions. When sharpening a chain on the bar, it is a good idea to tighten it to keep it in the groove, especially if a jig is used, to keep consistent angles. For those having a hard time getting the angles correct, Granberg has a great guide for hand files called the 'File-N-Joint'. I prefer the 12v 'Grind-N-Joint' grinder. A guide that keeps everything aligned can be a great help for beginners.
@Dougout92
@Dougout92 Жыл бұрын
I've gotten fairly experienced over time. You made some great points that should help. Thank you. Doug
@powerram92
@powerram92 3 жыл бұрын
I never used full chisel I've always used semi it's I'm always in dirty firewood. But I also touch up the chain after every tank and I never have a problem going dull.
@marko1314
@marko1314 3 жыл бұрын
Good stuff - Here's another top tip to give you an even sharper edge - ROLL THE FILE (approx 1/4 of a turn counter-clockwise as you push) this smooth twist of the wrist will sharpen that top edge even more.
@rustybird8803
@rustybird8803 3 жыл бұрын
Final somebody got some damm sense
@ateleskier7066
@ateleskier7066 3 жыл бұрын
Agreed. I discovered that entirely by accident; it makes a big difference.
@rondean2009
@rondean2009 3 жыл бұрын
Good point . Cheers
@fostexfan160
@fostexfan160 3 жыл бұрын
Great info on how to sharpen properly. I was totally unaware of the gullet and cutting edge being different and having different angles. Thank you
@timdias2818
@timdias2818 7 ай бұрын
I would like to start off by saying thank you for posting this video. I have been running chain saws for about forty years now and I still found it helpful. just wanted to add another good way to check your rakers is to bore into your cut. If it cuts easy and the saw wants to go in with little to no help they are just right. If you're pushing and the chain is sharp, they need to come down. It will also let you know if they are too low. Thank you for letting this old timber faller pass on some advice. God Bless and be careful everyone.
@pauldrake2146
@pauldrake2146 3 жыл бұрын
Been in the logging and tree service for 43 years have sharpened by file and grinder had one like yours but ended up getting 2 Oregon ones it's best to use two or three chains throughout the day when one gets dull switch it out with a sharp one as soon as you think it's getting dull and then spend 15 minutes sharpening all of them on the grinder will keep your production up. I use a cheap Windsor Carlton or Forester brand chain might not last as long but I'd rather have three sharp ones than one that I'm fighting with, the three of the cheaper ones will cost about the same thing as a good Oregon or stihl
@harvey66616
@harvey66616 2 жыл бұрын
I'll second the 2-in-1 tool recommendation. Also, the same tool is available from a variety of other manufacturers for other saws, e.g. Husqvarna, Pferd, etc. The 2-in-1 tool makes sharpening a snap. That said, even a plain filing guide for your chain is a great improvement over the "file the depth gauge, cut, repeat" process. You can get the depth gauges exactly to the proper height relative to the teeth on the first try. Naturally, make sure the round file is the right size for the chain. Using the wrong size file is going to put the shape of each tooth out of whack relative to the rest of the chain geometry.
@matulala2000
@matulala2000 2 жыл бұрын
Got my Stihl 2-in-1 about a year ago. I’ve got sharpening down to 5 minutes. I get brand new condition every time. It’s a no brainer for me. I like not having to mess with multiple files and worrying about all the angles.
@arthurwagar6224
@arthurwagar6224 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks. Learn something new every day. I tend to tighten the chain more for sharpening.
@diymanbelfast2897
@diymanbelfast2897 3 жыл бұрын
Been sawing and bench sharpening for years but never knew about the gullet, thanks for sharing and I will now try to do it right. Great video and well presented
@keithmessinger75
@keithmessinger75 3 жыл бұрын
Tighten up on that chain and QUIT dragging that file on the backstroke!
@24GardLake
@24GardLake 3 жыл бұрын
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@keithmessinger75
@keithmessinger75 3 жыл бұрын
Wrong. The key is in the shape of the file teeth. They are unidirectional by design to cut in one direction only. If you really believe it doesn't matter how you drag a file back and forth on hardened toolsteel with no apparent difference in longevity, then go ahead and run your drillbits and endmills and ANY other machine tool cutters in reverse and tell me how long they last.
@keithmessinger75
@keithmessinger75 3 жыл бұрын
Just look at file tooth profile at about 3:40 of the video you referenced.
@jameslarson7452
@jameslarson7452 3 жыл бұрын
@@keithmessinger75 Why are you blabbering about tool steel?
@keithmessinger75
@keithmessinger75 3 жыл бұрын
Because toolsteel, as opposed to mild steel is what your chain cutters and your file is made from. Toolsteel is a general term that refers to types of steel with enough carbon to make them "heat treatable". Your cutters are hardened, your files are hardened even "harder". That's the only way one can cut the other.
@morganhayes-reeves2135
@morganhayes-reeves2135 3 жыл бұрын
When he mentioned the gullet I thought about buckin billy ray, then he referenced him 😂
@davidguilzon1783
@davidguilzon1783 3 жыл бұрын
Great video Adam. just wanted to share, i had a logger show me once that if you twist the file as you push it thru it can take care of the gullet and the cutting edge at the same time. seems to work well for me.
@ejennings98
@ejennings98 6 ай бұрын
Love your videos. I work in the sawmill industry, for most sawmills the debarker allows the scanners to get a better view of the log before its bucked into blocks.
@Mainbusfail
@Mainbusfail 3 жыл бұрын
I feel like my brain just increased its capacity by a factor of 20. Thank you for this exceptional, humble and honest training video. Wow. Man you just don't know how stupid I was before I saw this video.
@scottmugford1123
@scottmugford1123 3 жыл бұрын
When your sharpening your chain tighten up your chain more so it’s not coming out of the bar
@jimwittneben7719
@jimwittneben7719 3 жыл бұрын
yes, and then after sharpening, loosen it back to normal tension so you don't prematurely stretch the chain and ruin your sprocket. If you check your bar nuts, you don't have to tighten them while sharpening - just wait till loosening the chain.
@tlpoutdoorsman
@tlpoutdoorsman 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimwittneben7719 actually that's only true when you're running your saw and the chain is warm it's going to loosen up a little bit so when you tighten it again height then at the end of the day when you're done if you store your chainsaw without loosening the chain that is true the chain will get cold it will stretch the chain and hurt your sprocket but not if it's been put away cold and you tighten it to sharpen it you can leave it like that if you want
@jimhofoss9982
@jimhofoss9982 3 жыл бұрын
yes. It pained me to watch the angle of the chain pitch sharply when the drivers left the bar...and that horrible sound of the file being used on the backstroke stopped the video...right there, lol. seriously!
@anvilfireweld6084
@anvilfireweld6084 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimhofoss9982 Yup, files don't cut on the back stroke.
@TheBrushcutter
@TheBrushcutter 3 жыл бұрын
@@jimhofoss9982 I agree. That was a show stopper for me also. It's difficult for me to have much confidence in the quality of information when folks don't understand the basics. And proper file usage is about as basic as it gets.
@253vhcommodore
@253vhcommodore 3 жыл бұрын
I love how informative this channel is! Keep it up! Loving this channel and now a subscriber 🙂
@joshsantone2266
@joshsantone2266 3 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the added info on this subject even though some ppl have contrary opinions. The video is still a good submission of context to learn from. Thanks.
@otatime2655
@otatime2655 3 жыл бұрын
I started swinging a saw when i was 14. The guy i learned from showed me how to file a chain and wouldn't let me run the saw till i could sharpen to his satisfaction 10 times. It took me 2 days to get it right and now at 57 i can file my saw without my glasses on. This was definitely a good video for beginners
@briankennedy1313
@briankennedy1313 3 жыл бұрын
Better get your glasses and watch again.
@briankennedy1313
@briankennedy1313 3 жыл бұрын
Sidenote: files didn’t have a spiral pattern when you learned so the technique would be a little different.
@otatime2655
@otatime2655 3 жыл бұрын
@@briankennedy1313 I can put an edge on my chain that will out preform a new chain every time! With or without my specks on.
@briankennedy1313
@briankennedy1313 3 жыл бұрын
otatime 2 I was kidding, just a little poke. I totally believe and can attest to it. A new chain is only a partially sharp chain compared to what hand filing is capable of producing. It took me years to get to where you are. Thinking I had it figured only to prove myself wrong.
@michaelbarnhill5187
@michaelbarnhill5187 3 жыл бұрын
I always file from the opposite side than you demonstrated into the tooth to prevent a wire edge from forming on the cutting edge. Kinda like sharpening a knife edge. Your technique for the 2 step sharpening is spot on to get the entire cutting edge sharp but I seem to get a cleaner sharper edge filling from the other side.
@GroovyGrubworm
@GroovyGrubworm 3 жыл бұрын
I do as well. The "burr" from sharpening seems to effect the lifespan of the edge. My chain stays sharper longer.
@t00ls742
@t00ls742 3 жыл бұрын
I just commented the same thing...the edge gets too thin and breaks off on the first contact
@1barfbarf77
@1barfbarf77 3 жыл бұрын
Very good vid bro. I have been sharpening saw blades for decades with little tips other than the basics. This one was detailed and easy to follow. 👍👍
@andyjones6361
@andyjones6361 Жыл бұрын
Brother You can do it in the same pass watch those long timer saw guys roll there wrist as they are moving forward also make sure you use a large enough file so hit hits both. You’ve definitely came a long way in four years!! I enjoy your videos. ! You have a peaceful energy about and always come across humble about things not like you think you have it all figured out!! God bless Andy.
@joshblick
@joshblick 3 жыл бұрын
You really need to get rid of those safety chains. Since you've been cutting for a few years you know about kickback and shouldn't have that issue. Those big safety rakers just just stop the blade from cutting faster. And tighten up that chain when you sharpen it so you're not filing it sideways when it rolls out.
@anonymouscorky6091
@anonymouscorky6091 3 жыл бұрын
@Josh Blick I’m 15 and have been cutting wood for 2 years, just bought a ms 261c and have been using skip tooth for 1 1/2 years
@joshblick
@joshblick 3 жыл бұрын
@@anonymouscorky6091 Good deal. Just be safe.
@ronallen6578
@ronallen6578 3 жыл бұрын
Had never used a chain like that.
@fiskfarm
@fiskfarm 3 жыл бұрын
Safety chain! Wow I missed that. I throw those suckers out so I don't grab it by mistake. Lawyers came up with that piece of crap for liability issues I'd bet👍😎👌
@brianwideman2342
@brianwideman2342 3 жыл бұрын
I really like those square tooth chains. They cut twice as fast as a low kick back chain.
@James-cn9no
@James-cn9no 3 жыл бұрын
I have tried a lot of sharpening tools. The one that I think does the best job of sharpening the gullet and cutting edge is the Timberline Chainsaw Sharpener kit. A little slower than a hand file, but more reliable.
@Patrick_B687-3
@Patrick_B687-3 3 жыл бұрын
I was always Leary of doing this until I found Buckin Billy Ray. I’m on the path now. Thanks friend
@CGrib16
@CGrib16 3 жыл бұрын
Love the video Adam! I just started hand filing with mixed results. I think I’m gonna try out your method!
@HometownAcres
@HometownAcres 3 жыл бұрын
Only way to learn is screwing up chains and trying again haha
@1d1hamby
@1d1hamby 3 жыл бұрын
@@HometownAcres, Totally agree 👍
@kidphillyorg
@kidphillyorg 3 жыл бұрын
Watching, learning, and appreciating with a like and this comment. Thank you Adam. 👍🏾
@HometownAcres
@HometownAcres 3 жыл бұрын
It’s one of those things that you have to test out and see what works and doesn’t. Watching helps but doing really teaches you
@kidphillyorg
@kidphillyorg 3 жыл бұрын
@@HometownAcres it took me awhile to get through my last cut on the firewood video i just posted on my channel. It took forever to get through. Finding better ways to keep the chain sharp will save me a ton of time in the future. Might as well learn early from you & my experiences.
@tomwaldo9556
@tomwaldo9556 2 жыл бұрын
You got that chain cutting nice. It took me a while to get good at filing. I was fed up with the hardware store butchering my chain with their grinder.
@internetbodhi1009
@internetbodhi1009 3 жыл бұрын
I've got an idea that may be a long term sort of update theme, where every so often you test a brand of chain, once when brand new, and then just whenever you feel, after periods of use
@georgewoodoftexas6323
@georgewoodoftexas6323 3 жыл бұрын
The electric chainsaw sharpener you showed at first is often miss-used and that's why it does not get good results. What you pointed out is right. With electric sharpener, first don't touch the face of the tooth but sharpen the gullet. Then as you raise the sharpener, push-in on the sharpener wheel as you exit to sharpen the face. You will get better results this way. Forth years of sharpening chains teaches you things. Hope this is helpful.
@brianmccowan1949
@brianmccowan1949 3 жыл бұрын
Agree with the other comments on tightening the chain. Get it so tight that its a bit of a struggle to move it, and the sharpening goes better. I've never been a pro, but have been cutting firewood for 50 years, starting with an ungodly heavy Mac. I also tried grinder options and hand files always won out. Like so many things, the quality of files has gone downhill. Nicholson used to be good. But now the best I can find are pferd, but I have not yet tried the Vallorbe files.
@williammeck3466
@williammeck3466 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve never used a chainsaw in my life before moving to the mountains where I live now. I was fortunate to be neighbors with someone who’s been cutting and dragging trees off the mountains for decades using mules. I’m not sure if even he knew about the file not sharpening both at the same time. He taught me how to do it by hand. I’m going to have to pass this on. Thanks for the education.
@whilomforge3402
@whilomforge3402 3 жыл бұрын
I use a plastic felling wedge on the bottom of the bar (in between the drive links and the bar rail) to keep the chain from being so sloppy. I’m no expert, but I do cut a lot of firewood and sharpening chains has been part of my daily routine for the better part of a decade. Good video!
@tjlynchjr1
@tjlynchjr1 3 жыл бұрын
Can’t ever go wrong referencing Buckin Billy Ray!
@jbbolts
@jbbolts 3 жыл бұрын
lol yup this! after he said the best way to get it sharp as new is to do it by hand I was agreeing 100% due to having watched buckin billy ray! no more evening the teeth out of anything like that anymore for me
@eblake021
@eblake021 3 жыл бұрын
3 thumbs up for Buckin Billy Ray
@ADVENTURESOFBZ
@ADVENTURESOFBZ 3 жыл бұрын
Literally just watched the new Buckin video lol. Never miss one
@cutlets6152
@cutlets6152 3 жыл бұрын
You most certainly can. What he does and what you do are two entirely different things. He's just found a way to make money on the internet.
@louisbrentnell2551
@louisbrentnell2551 3 жыл бұрын
I referred him today to a client. Buckin!
@green-zone36
@green-zone36 3 жыл бұрын
Working in the woods every day with a saw one develops the skill to make a saw cut free hand. This is true for a chain right of the box, not sharp, well not sharp enough. Needs to be touched up with a file. Now that I am not running a saw all day, every day, the out of the box chain seems good enough for me now. The skill one looses from not being active is also apparent when I walk up to the tree. Look for the lean and not seeing it right. My experience is if you don't use it you loose it.. this is what separates the pros from the rest of us.
@treebranch9802
@treebranch9802 3 жыл бұрын
The only thing I would add is remember to keep the correct angle when filing. Also, if you are just starting and dont want to do it by hand with the individual files get one of the hand file guides. I think stihl and echo both make some good ones and husky probably does too. They're usually pretty good at shaping the teeth and help get the raker height right. They can also be better than some of the electric jigs like the one you showed as although those jigs deliver consistent grinds on each tooth the way they're built doesn't quite shape the tooth correctly. I believe the dremel guides are alright at shaping the tooth but they don't really do much for the raker and they of course cut much faster than a hand file which has its pros and cons.
@Turkey_Bluff_Farms
@Turkey_Bluff_Farms 2 жыл бұрын
Great video. I will share a tip I got from my uncle years ago about sharpening. A larger file will sharpen gullet and leading edge at the same time.
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