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Makita LXT VS XGT Batteries
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Күн бұрынDo Makita 18v batteries have the same cells as Makita 40v batteries? Which run longer? Which run cooler? And how many times can you smash them against a rock before they split open...?
Time to compare Makita LXT VS XGT Batteries
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00:00 LXT VS XGT
03:27 18v not compatible with 40v
04:02 Makita Battery Checker
05:57 Runtime test
08:37 Cut open Makita batteries
26:00 Smashing Makita batteries
33:15 Makita battery wrap up
@titansteelful 25 күн бұрын
Perfect timing, I am about to try my first XGT tool. good stuff
@ManWithBeard1990 25 күн бұрын
It's easy to underestimate how important the shape of an item is and how that affects its strength. The more rounded shape of the LXT pack has fewer stress risers than the more angular shape of the XGT one. The extra vents don't help either but it didn't look like that's where the crack initiated. Well put-together thing, that LXT.
@hansWurst-jy1yk 25 күн бұрын
my xgt hand-blower with a 5.0ah battery fell 8m from a scaffolding on stone. I didnt even walk down to get it again because it must have broke anyways, but surprise: still works fine. love xgt
@shifty277 25 күн бұрын
Thank you for the effort you put into Makita content - we need you! Thumbs up. Also subbed and belled for about the last year.
@danielpuma6416 25 күн бұрын
I was right with my previous comment Makita 18v will still work with minor scratches
@TinkerWithTools 25 күн бұрын
Really great video! Great information as always. Thanks for all you do!
@riba2233 25 күн бұрын
another awesome video, we really needed this and now we know 100% what cells are in XGT packs :)
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 25 күн бұрын
*And I know to take a large sledgehammer next time.*
@riba2233 25 күн бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL larger hammer - solution for all the problems :)
@ProToolsApproved 25 күн бұрын
Well explained! Thank you as always for great content!
@mrstrul3. 25 күн бұрын
I had several of my Makita tools fall from 3-4 meters of height and none were broken beyond cosmetic damage, 2 of which fell on the LXT battery one being an impact driver and second being a chainsaw (DUC306 36V) and as I said no damage beyond cosmetics.
@BigAnatoli 25 күн бұрын
so this is what i was watching at 6am…. its all coming back now
@user-ck4ii9mj8i 24 күн бұрын
I enjoyed that very interesting and entertaining vid thank you again
@Krizon4 25 күн бұрын
I would really like to hear an answer from Makita why does the XGT battery cost more than twice than LXT, at least here in center of Europe.
@julianweiser9985 25 күн бұрын
65 vs 110€... Expensive, agreed. Even when you account for the extended runtime its still 38% more expensive.
@andrewdaw6269 25 күн бұрын
Probably because people are willing to buy them at that price
@MrKlarthums 24 күн бұрын
Probably new demand and low existing supply. If new LXT batteries were at the same price as XGT's, people would be heavily buying good condition, used batteries. There's little supply of XGT batteries on the used market, lower stock on the shelves, and less historical inventory. So Makita charges more because they can and because people want the product still.
@whirled_peas 24 күн бұрын
@@andrewdaw6269correct. Companies shouldn’t have to justify their prices to anyone. The 40V tools are great and the batteries are needed to use them. Better value product = higher price.
@zarajoe1 24 күн бұрын
More then twice the price? Really? Here in Aus the XGT 2.5AH is a little more expensive then a LXT 5AH battery but not by much Edit. The XGT version does use newer more expensive cells
@honda116969 25 күн бұрын
It usually takes about 5-10 discharge & recharge cycles to wake the 🔋 up all the way. Cool test & channel
@mirzasaj 5 күн бұрын
I use LXT and once unintentionally i left my battery under direct sunlight on roof top for almost one week but to my surprise it survived heat upto 48 degrees its robustly impressive and charge didnt drop even after that torture
@MarekKubi 25 күн бұрын
Some shops sell new batteries, which were produced 5 years ago. Should they maintain them somehow or age dont affect durability if not in use?
@triedtofail 22 күн бұрын
There is some Makita FAQ (maybe in Japanese?) that explains why the batteries don't arrive fully charged and AFAIK it is to increase its life. However, Makita is possibly caring more about extremely high cycle counts within the warranty period rather than setting age records on batteries. In practice it is an aggravating factor to store full batteries as this maximizes their potential damage during a leak. Ideally, users should not be storing the batteries at full charge since that degrades lithium faster, but nobody is going to do that with power tool chargers, since chargers do not have that feature and doing it some other way is cumbersome
@veitjacob9764 25 күн бұрын
The breaking tests are hard to watch! But please guys, never use a battery that is beaten up like that. Imagine the battery rocket multiplied by10. 🎇 🎆 🎇 🎆 🎇 🎆 🎇 🎆 🎇 🎆
@dylanstanley1841 23 күн бұрын
Id like to see other brands go through the same test👀
@UKTOOLTALK 25 күн бұрын
Oh come on tools you should have at least tryd to put the bashed battery’s on a tool!!! I bet if you super glued the yellow tab back on the lxt it would have been right!!! Please do another video with you trying it!!!! Big love ❤️ oh and another awesome video my friend!get in!!!Grrrr I wish someone from Japan would start exporting the new 5ah cxt battery’s to the uk!! I’d be all over it like a rash!!!!!🤟🤟
@colinwilson8747 24 күн бұрын
Very Interesting!! The battery taking off like a rocket never gets old,I have a good laugh every time. Question Spot Welding Li Ion batteries vs Soldering??
@riba2233 23 күн бұрын
Y0u must never solder them.
@colinwilson8747 23 күн бұрын
@@riba2233 Hi riba2233 - I had found out that if Li ion batteries get hot they can explode and even soldering them can cause it when I bought some replacement 1860s from a place called Battery World and they refused to install them. I have not installed them yet! and this a now 2 years later. I made the comment as I heard TOOLS say that he was not good at soldering and I went OH NO. I tried to find a KZfaq video I had seen 2 years ago about spot welding the contacts but couldn't find it BUT there are now so many KZfaq videos prompting soldering Li ion batteries - some even claiming it to be a safe method. I was hoping that as TOOLS has been looking closely at batteries in his last few videos I was hoping he might talk about this topic, that why I phrased it as a question. I agree with you it should be made know NOT to solder.
@frankv84 22 күн бұрын
As for your comment on the new firmware for the battery tester: that was regarding the 3.0 firmware? That is the update that is shipped with the BTC07 adapter, for testing the 64V batteries and the PDC1200 battery pack. I just updated mine from 2.1 to 3.0 and don't see any difference for LXT or XGT batteries. So my guess is that that update is purely for the compatibility with the BTC07.
@danielsmith-ze3wy 24 күн бұрын
So far im enjoying my 40volt makita 3/4 impact
@dr.bik.sauerlanderene_HR 25 күн бұрын
Try that with Milwaukee,Bosch Dewalt and Co. Would be interessting...😊😊
@PeterTrimboli 24 күн бұрын
Yeah I'd like to see battery durability tests by all the brands
@nominalvelocity 24 күн бұрын
I can tell you a few of my 4.0 and 5.0 DeWalt batteries have had their case crack just from being used on an impact driver without being dropped or abused. The rock WILL win. 😬
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 24 күн бұрын
I'm thinking about asking people to send me their dead batteries for such testing.
@robertrada4783 21 күн бұрын
You can see the inside of the Milwaukee battery pack by just squeezing it and the Dewalt is polypropylene I believe. Either way, a trip to a repair shop well tell you all you need to know. ;)
@whya2ndaccount 25 күн бұрын
Do we get a safety brief this time - or just be prepared to run when it does a skyrocket impersonation?
@maayan180 25 күн бұрын
Thanks for the video! But something's missing... the performance difference between the Chinese LXT and the Vietnam LXT... is there a difference??
@riba2233 23 күн бұрын
Not really, same rating on cells
@maayan180 22 күн бұрын
thanks!
@thekiwinomad 25 күн бұрын
Great video tools
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 25 күн бұрын
Thanks 👍 __
@patbird9694 25 күн бұрын
Missed you last week bro
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 25 күн бұрын
Sorry man. Maybe I'll give you 2 next week...
@danielreynolds6498 25 күн бұрын
Man there strong. Would of like to see a big rock drop from a great height on to battery
@henryairconcepts2999 25 күн бұрын
it hurts my feeling seeing the batteries got bashed multiple times. But I'm curious to see the damage inside
@Ninjaman-vi1fh 24 күн бұрын
MR tools do you have any idea when the uk is gonna get the new tab less cell batteries? its been like a year xd
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 24 күн бұрын
Should be pretty soon. They just released them in Germany.
@Ninjaman-vi1fh 24 күн бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL honestly cant wait! have been saving up my pennies all year for them haha, keep up with the good content lad
@matthewfranco8847 25 күн бұрын
I have 2 18v batt from 08 and thay stil work! Lol
@Jock-mj4zd 9 күн бұрын
What’s the band playing early on in the video?
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 9 күн бұрын
Highly Suspect
@stillasgoodasnew 25 күн бұрын
How do you tell what year the batteries are???
@MarekKubi 25 күн бұрын
On the bottom two first number is the prod year.
@stillasgoodasnew 23 күн бұрын
@@MarekKubi thanks much appreciated
@robertkovacic4623 25 күн бұрын
I have to mention another excellent comparison of 18V vs. 40V... otherwise it's more about the presentation of the machine, but still a very interesting end of the test. The new Metabo BS 18 LTX BL QI was tested some time ago on the Bauforum24 youtube channel. (cover image with 4-speed Festool). They compared it (10x600mm screw with full thread) to Festool, 40V Makita, 36V Hikoki, and Bosch. Makita was half a second faster, Festool couldn't handle the screw (at Metabo they accidentally left it on the electronic clutch, but the mistake was discovered )...at 36V Hikoki, Metabo won by one second, in the fight with Bosch, Metabo won again by approx. two seconds !!! What is even more interesting is that, in the fight with Bosch, Metabo was given a single-row 4Ah LiHD battery with 21700 cells, while Bosch was given a double-row 8Ah ProCore battery with the same cells. I won't talk about Metabo's performance this time (of course I bought it because I'm also on the CAS system), but I'll only mention what both testers were wondering at the end....40V (or 36V)-WHAT FOR? !!!! Great channel-love it-keep it up.
@riba2233 23 күн бұрын
Makita xgt drill is the most powerful on a dyno (with larger packs ofc). But the point of 40v is for more powerful tools mainly
@robertkovacic4623 23 күн бұрын
@@riba2233 If you look at the assortment at Metabo, you will find that they also offer 2x18v class and 36v (single battery) class of machines (as you mention - more powerful machines) such as e.g. construction circular saw, impact drill, large 230mm angle grinders, etc. But for classic drill drivers, etc.... FOR WHAT... in my opinion, it is more important that the construction of the machine is as it should be, and also that the battery is superbly designed. Metabo CAS-LiHD batteries (5.2Ah, 8Ah and 10Ah) are separately contacted with the electronic printed circuit board - it means that the upper row of five cells has its own shorter contact sheets, and the longer contact sheets of the lower row of cells pass ower them... on the printed circuit board these contact sheets in the sandwich construction are screwed together!!! to the contacts of the printed circuit board. These double sheets have a much larger cross-section, and the lower row of cells does not heat the sheet of the upper cells... the internal resistance and thus also the complete heating of the battery is much smaller compared to competitors... as far as I know, none of the battery manufacturers do constructs batteries like this.
@Mr.Ditschy 16 күн бұрын
There are now also the new 40Vmax BL4020F with Tabless cells (18650), these cells should be ideal for new 18V batteries. Es gibt mittlerweile auch die neuen 40Vmax BL4020F mit Tabless Zellen (18650), diese Zellen sollten doch für neue 18V Akkus top geeignet sein.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 15 күн бұрын
They don't actually exist yet though.
@glenanderson6910 25 күн бұрын
I've found that the quickest way to destroy a lxt battery is to back over it with a ride on mower while it's plugged into a blower, exciting fireworks each time I found another cell in the long grass in my paddock.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 25 күн бұрын
Yeah that'll do it.
@TimothyOwen 14 күн бұрын
I'm heavy on the 18v and have been stuck on whether to upgrade to 40v but it's a no.. not worth it
@TimothyOwen 14 күн бұрын
Just bought a 36v drop saw yesterday. Higher RPM v the 40v version.. and it ran all day and only dropped 1 bar on 2 5amp batteries
@isaaccaris9530 21 күн бұрын
I se a lot of bateries but you dont see lightweiht on 40v
@dr.bik.sauerlanderene_HR 25 күн бұрын
Lxt rocks
@blakecraft5143 9 күн бұрын
I’ll keep my lxt stuff before I dare pay xgt prices
@stanslad7868 23 күн бұрын
Got four 18v 5ah two years ago, only one is still working & will charge up, the old 3ah are still going strong after 10 years
@user-dm1gw2hd1q 25 күн бұрын
日本から、ありがとうとお礼を言わせてください。お金が大事な我々にはとてもできない実験は、とても参考になりました。
@jussi75 11 күн бұрын
Xgt all day .
@user-fx7ic1tw6d 25 күн бұрын
40v(36v) 2,5 Ah = 18v 5Ah Равенство прсто и понятно Спасибо за обзор Булатный лайк мой👍
@user-ps9ky3wk9s 25 күн бұрын
отличный тест! с любовью из России!
@DDB168 15 күн бұрын
Hey I dont think anyone has cried "fake batteries" in the comments below !
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 15 күн бұрын
One person did.
@DDB168 15 күн бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL Damn :(
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 15 күн бұрын
@DDB168 But it's OK... they were joking.
@andrewdaw6269 25 күн бұрын
I don't understand why Makita haven't gone for higher capacity (higher amp hour, lower amp output) cells in their 40v gear. Surely at 40volts a 3000mah,20amp cell would supply enough watts to distinguish a 40v battery from the 18volt system while also have the neat perk of significantly higher watt hours
@whirled_peas 24 күн бұрын
It’s called good engineering, designing something to its requirements and no more
@riba2233 23 күн бұрын
Not really, xgt tools require more power.
@cryingeva 25 күн бұрын
Just make sure Cell made in Singapore is the Murata,they had battery factory located at Singapore,don’t buy batteries made in Vietnam coz made by Samsung Cell inferior grade.
@riba2233 25 күн бұрын
both cells are great, no worries.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 25 күн бұрын
Are you saying this before or after watching the video?
@cryingeva 25 күн бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL I’m had 8 LXT Batteries,Cell made in Singapore Murata can hold the voltage longer & stable, Samsung cell cannot compare to the Murata,both cell is real Makita battery.
@cryingeva 25 күн бұрын
@@riba2233 Nope,it does not, I have both,but Murata performs the best result, my older battery 13year & 12year is Murata cell
@riba2233 25 күн бұрын
@@cryingeva real life tests of both cells don't agree with your statement :) 25R even performs just slightly better on average.
@robertdascoli949 24 күн бұрын
Great video, it's a shame that half the batteriea you tested were fake.
@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL 24 күн бұрын
Go away
@robertdascoli949 24 күн бұрын
@@ToolsAndStuffOFFICIAL At least I made it to the end of the video
@Andrew-xd9fg 25 күн бұрын
Breather holes? They are drainage holes for liquid ingress. For someone who calls them self 'tools', you should know this
@nbtmcid 25 күн бұрын
What a Jackass you are fool
@riba2233 25 күн бұрын
y0u are wr0ng, they also work for ventilation when a pack is charging. please don't correct others if you are cIueIess, thanks.
@riba2233 25 күн бұрын
wr0ng, they also work for ventilation when a pack is charging. please d0n't c0rrect others if you are cIueIess, thanks.
@roland985 25 күн бұрын
When on the charger those holes are venting out hot air. I don't doubt they're serving a dual purpose, but they are marketed as breather holes on some older brouchures.
@Andrew-xd9fg 25 күн бұрын
Wrong. The fan forces air through vents near the lock tab and exists the vents at near the fuel gauge. Makita has images showing this. The drainage holes were added to packs starting in 2012, so if they were breather holes why weren’t they in packs pre 2012? A simple test for your simple brain, put a makita LXT battery on charge, get a bit of tissue and put over the drainages holes, it doesn’t blow off. Milwaukee m18 battery are the same, they have 5 drainage holes in the bottom. Their rapid charge has no fan. So why do they have holes in the bottom of the pack? Seems like you’re the clueless one.
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