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Top 10 Cards That Were Overhyped By The Community, But Ended Up Not Performing Very Well

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Yugioh is an ever-changing game, with new and old cards coming in and out of the meta every time. In this video, we will be going over cards which people thought would change the game, but ended up not doing much at all.
Script by Iason Autica
-The List-
Intro: (0:00)
10. Crystal Seer: (0:09)
9. Dark Worlds / Grapha, Dragon Lord of Dark World : (2:24)
8. Lair of Darkness: (3:54)
7. Crossout Designator: (5:18)
6. Naturia Pineapple: (6:34)
5. Magical Musketeers / Magical Musketeer Caspar: (8:03)
4. Spell Chronicle: (9:23)
3. Senet Switch: (10:57)
2. Sea Monster of Theseus: (12:20)
1. Noble Knights / Noble Knight Borz: (14:09)
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@ShyRanger
@ShyRanger Жыл бұрын
Good countdown idea, another suggestion could be the opposite, cards underhyped but ended up performing very well. Example being how when Gladiator Beasts came out, most people didn't give it time of day since DAD ws still around, but then Gladiators performed super will at tournaments, to the point that next year everyone was expecting them to be the next unstoppable thing, but then Tele-DAD was as thing.
@DeitySkullKid
@DeitySkullKid Жыл бұрын
Solemn Judgement and aqua dolphin, for sure
@philosopherofnewtime8859
@philosopherofnewtime8859 Жыл бұрын
Did not Gladiators assault the Set in which Gladiator beasts came out appear before Phantom darkness the Set which hat dad?
@darklombax2580
@darklombax2580 Жыл бұрын
Any scycron when halq came out
@Masahane
@Masahane Жыл бұрын
Excluding cards that saw play due to new game mechanics, especially Link Summoning.
@daftside58
@daftside58 Жыл бұрын
Already have a video in the Chanel "cards no one expectec to be good"
@yuricahere
@yuricahere Жыл бұрын
9:23 - according to MBT, Spell Chronicle hype was a ruse to see if the competitive community could artificially manipulate the card market by staging a mass buy out of a very obvious bad card.
@sirswagabadha4896
@sirswagabadha4896 Жыл бұрын
The classic tale of a fool and his money being easily parted...
@Xaiff
@Xaiff Жыл бұрын
The reasoning makes sense.
@redspiralray2880
@redspiralray2880 Жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that no one got their ass beat over something like that.
@originalindigodingo
@originalindigodingo Жыл бұрын
So it basically was just an NFT pump and dump scam. All it needs is a poorly drawn ape
@alex_zetsu
@alex_zetsu Жыл бұрын
Honestly if it discarded for effect and returned the banish cards if destroyed, it might see some use. Missing the fact that it discards as a cost is something that some tournament players kept messing up back then (none of the top players did and nowadays even the lower tournament players don't, but back then you always had some guys confused every event). The fact that your opponent can MST it means you lose those cards does mean it's pretty useless since you can't just play 6 spells to get 3 of the 5 cards back and I don't see why people realize that makes this really bad and I don't see why people didn't realize that.
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
Everyone knows that with Theseus it had been Konami themselves hyping it up. Most players recognized the Instant Fusion Tuner potential, but we already had E-Tele. When they touted instead the trio of Dark Ruler No More, Dimension Shifter, and Nibiru, they actually meant business.
@YohananYGO
@YohananYGO Жыл бұрын
If it was a level 4 , I think it would be so much better
@shis1988
@shis1988 Жыл бұрын
And now we have Ready Fusion, which makes it very good.
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
@N. Colt It's probably in most formats a side deck staple similar to Droll or floodgates due to turning effects off. The limitations of the card are finely tuned. Dark Ruler should be able to help you go further than you otherwise could if used well.
@black7594
@black7594 Жыл бұрын
@@runningoncylinders3829 except master duel, which I assume most people here are familiar with and not best of 3 tournament rulesets
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
@@black7594 True, bo1 will leave out a lot of side staples like that. MD also has its own pool of available cards and limits, making it the MD ladder format.
@HiggsBoson42
@HiggsBoson42 Жыл бұрын
The Dark World structure is an interesting case since while it didn't generate many tops at the time, it generally considered to strongest deck of Fire-Water format(January 2014), and only major change to Dark World was that there were good rank 8s to go into, and this was format with Firefist, Mermail, and XYZ Infernity in it.
@NeostormXLMAX
@NeostormXLMAX Жыл бұрын
Dark worlds about to be tier 0 soon
@NeostormXLMAX
@NeostormXLMAX Жыл бұрын
Infinite hand loops incoming
@MajinObama
@MajinObama Жыл бұрын
👀
@imsrchris2052
@imsrchris2052 Жыл бұрын
In Duel Links Noble Knights became a tier 1 deck because they used a skill that almost guaranteed giving you a monster, a spell and trap, the monster and the spell themselves being like a +80% chance to open with both. So you had a really high chance to open with merlin or medraut + an equip spell or the quick play that equips in order to guarantee your gemini effects, and sometimes an additional trap or book of moon as a disruption. Only that kind of set up made them a top tier deck, but when the skill got nerfed, the deck dropped instantly to rogue and it's currently a fun deck, probably one of the best funs, but barely does it to rogue
@roanoke42
@roanoke42 Жыл бұрын
Balance Noble Knights you will not be missed. Definitely did not enjoy losing every time I lost the coin toss.
@kimura2176
@kimura2176 Жыл бұрын
and after some years noble knights was made meta in DL due to the skill Balance allowing you to open full combo 90% of the times and making a turn 1 that nothing at the time could beat and fallen into obscurity once balance got nerfed
@TonyExists
@TonyExists Жыл бұрын
Also worth noting that the structure deck was released at a great time for it. Cuz had Nobles come out any later they would have have been blown out of the water
@OvertSugar3
@OvertSugar3 Жыл бұрын
one of the best memories i have from DL is making NK work before the structure deck came out, right when the first batch of Xyz were released in the game. It was a OTK deck (potenially FTK if going second) exploiting Zubaba General and Joey's power that granted 200 attack to all warriors you own. As long as you drew Medraut or Lundsallyn, if i remember correctly, you could go into Zubaba, equip a 1800+ monster from the hand and go face through an open board cleared by Drystan and Arfeudutyr for game. It worked pretty consistently and had a good amount of tools to survive and keep up with value if it didn't otk. Started to drop off when Blue Eyes became the meta staple but i still love that little deck
@Carlitonsp1
@Carlitonsp1 Жыл бұрын
4:51 - Mystic Mine defender line
@misterbadguy7325
@misterbadguy7325 Жыл бұрын
In fairness, Mystic Mine makes it work because your average Mine deck is fifteen cards to search or trigger Mine, fifteen cards to protect Mine, three copies of Mine, and a win condition. That's just not something that Lair could do.
@gamer11011101
@gamer11011101 Жыл бұрын
I like this list mmore than others because it focuses more on groups of cards per slot as opposed to a single card. It is interesting to hear the history behind some of these cards and sets.
@DanBarge
@DanBarge Жыл бұрын
A big reason Dark World never did as well as it should have it because a lot of people decided to cut some of the most powerfull cards like cards destruction and dark world dealings because they were just an instant loss to blindly use in the mirror match resulting in much weaker versions of the deck and the deck not being able to compete
@jahir1976
@jahir1976 Жыл бұрын
This. I used to play yugioh when i was a kid for fun so i had a bunch of old cards. Then later on I decided to go back and play during the dragon ruler meta. I only played local level so there were only a couple of duelist that actually used dragon ruler. There were a couple of dark world players including my friend. I asked him why no one used dark deal and he said he's never heard of that card. I told him that was weird since it sounded like a very broken card. I had anout 6 copies of it from my pile of old cards and gave some of them to him. He proceeded to win a couple of local tournaments because of it and people were seeing it for the first time even the dragon ruler players couldnt believe the effect of the card. It was really funny every time he pulled it out.
@nathanchristman6660
@nathanchristman6660 Жыл бұрын
Correct me if i'm wrong but card destruction wouldn't trigger them because the discard is a cost.
@ab14967
@ab14967 Жыл бұрын
@@nathanchristman6660 They actually would trigger. It's very awkward for the wording, but card destruction has it so it just happens. It's not a requirement for you to discard to activate it. You just won't get anything from it if you don't have anything else in your hand.
@dokuganryu1565
@dokuganryu1565 Жыл бұрын
@@ab14967 Apparently it's because it happens all at once.
@ab14967
@ab14967 Жыл бұрын
@@dokuganryu1565 I don't know why it would cause a problem in normal circumstances, since the discard effects of Dark World are if, not when.
@jetblack8209
@jetblack8209 Жыл бұрын
The Duellogs will never run out of these lol
@blackbird7781
@blackbird7781 Жыл бұрын
Overhype or vids in general?
@revan1lord
@revan1lord Жыл бұрын
This. I love his vids
@agitpolat1061
@agitpolat1061 Жыл бұрын
One of his Vids exists literally just to prove that, I'm sure we'll have Content for a long while still xD
@PaRaNiki_
@PaRaNiki_ Жыл бұрын
Still anticipating "10 Cards I feel like talking about"
@zad_rasera
@zad_rasera Жыл бұрын
@@PaRaNiki_ He already did that with his "The Unknown Side of Yu-Gi-Oh" vid
@williamenciso9198
@williamenciso9198 Жыл бұрын
The best part of the Dark World structure deck was the “BEWARE THE SEMICOLON” article that Konami made in conjunction with the deck.
@melvinshine9841
@melvinshine9841 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if a, "Top 10 'Anti-Meta' Cards In A Given Format" could work as an idea. Top 10 Pendulum Extra Deck Monsters Top 10 Synchro Tuners Top 10 Best/Worst Cards That Can Miss Timing Top 10 Worst Spellcasters Top 10 Best/Worst Cards That Require A Specific Named Monster To Activate Top 10 Worst Monster Effects That Trigger When A Monster's Destroyed By Battle Top 10 Cards With Unlisted Rulings
@Blackopsspartn
@Blackopsspartn Жыл бұрын
The pendulum extra deck monsters sounds like a cool idea for a vid. Especially since I never play pends or see anyone use like those cards. They always look cool
@XmortoxX1990
@XmortoxX1990 Жыл бұрын
The first 2 would be great
@doorbladder5735
@doorbladder5735 Жыл бұрын
L V
@MagnusXL
@MagnusXL Жыл бұрын
As a Lair of Darkness enjoyer, I can't really refute your points. It has a lot of issues, but if you can get established it works really well. The problem being that the entire deck really falls apart when the field spell dies and it has no inherent protection whatsoever.
@sirswagabadha4896
@sirswagabadha4896 Жыл бұрын
I use lair of darkness as a tech option in my ogdoadic deck. The deck itself is pretty slow and bricks sometimes, but I feel like adding lair adds a fair bit of consistency to it. As long as you can get Keurse in the grave, you can always have a play live by tributing your opponent's monster to bring itself back out. And if I don't draw it or it gets destroyed, it's fine since the deck still has control strategies without it, it's just a nice bonus when it's there and draws the opponent's focus away from disrupting my other plays. As powerful as the card is, I think a whole deck dedicated around just that is indeed too prone to disruption
@18nightc322
@18nightc322 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, and even if you do get out beat cop that only protects against destruction
@skepticskeleton1064
@skepticskeleton1064 Жыл бұрын
As a Lair of Darkness player I've actually not had many problems with it, especially when combined with kaijus, sphere mode, and viruses. Now To be fair, the field spell absolutely needs protection but usually duels don't last long enough for it to really matter in my personal experience. The deck can absolutely brick and I 100% believe that Lair needs protection but if you time your strategy you can win in a single turn before your opponent has the chance to get rid of it.
@MagnusXL
@MagnusXL Жыл бұрын
@@skepticskeleton1064 Yeah. I too run it with viruses (and Fang of Critias because it's cool and I really wanted to run Doom Virus Dragon) with some degree of success, but I'm also playing in Platinum/Diamond Master Duel instead of a "real" format.
@superskrub4209
@superskrub4209 Жыл бұрын
Exactly my experience, I was pretty much building it assuming I couldn't use Lair
@qreius
@qreius Жыл бұрын
POGDUEL130 sounds like the most random codes I’ve ever heard, like it feels like mr. logs chose it while he was drunk as balls
@jorgealbertofrias
@jorgealbertofrias Жыл бұрын
0:08 0:12 0:13 0:13
@jorgealbertofrias
@jorgealbertofrias Жыл бұрын
0:24 0:52
@jorgealbertofrias
@jorgealbertofrias Жыл бұрын
1:06
@jorgealbertofrias
@jorgealbertofrias Жыл бұрын
5:08
@jorgealbertofrias
@jorgealbertofrias Жыл бұрын
5:43 5:55 6:05
@alfred8878
@alfred8878 Жыл бұрын
Noble knights was actually my first deck in duel links back when i was playing. It carried me to platinum. It is a good deck if you have all the cards you need in your hand to start your combo. But when the Harpie Ladies became a tier 1 meta deck, I've had a hard time countering it with noble knights. So i had to change my deck. I settled down with burning abyss and it did me good too.
@BatmannotBruceWayne1
@BatmannotBruceWayne1 Жыл бұрын
I remember when noble knights became good in duel links, it caused a resurgence in sacred Phoenix decks, as they hard countered it (they hadn’t received the ritual support to my knowledge at the time, and had lost its place in the meta for a few seasons)
@gamer11011101
@gamer11011101 Жыл бұрын
I can't disagree with you about Noble Knights, but I love them just the same. I played them a lot in Duel Links and they were the only time I spent real money to try and build an optimal Noble Knight deck. I had a ton of fun with them... until Harpies became Tier 1 Meta and every other player was summoning Cyber Slash Harpie Lady... I still play the Noble Knights on occasion.
@Novoxis
@Novoxis Жыл бұрын
Lair of Darkness is still a fun card to play around; I made a Lair of Mahad where the goal was to have Mahad's double ATK power always live because everything was Dark. Though I love using Lair of Darkness to summon Sphere Mode on my opponent then tribute it with Advance Draw to clear the field and get two cards.
@zebra_ecstasy5772
@zebra_ecstasy5772 Жыл бұрын
Theseus is the poster boy of "Overhyped Cards" SINCE KONAMI THEMSELVES SAID IT WOULD BE BROKEN
@hiimemily
@hiimemily 9 ай бұрын
The sheer temerity of them to say that it would be the most impactful monster of 2017 when Ass Blassum & No Joy was literally printed one set later.
@BlackIrisBalloon
@BlackIrisBalloon Жыл бұрын
Great countdown! For another one,, How about something like "Useful cards with a lower rarity than you'd expect", since OP or Staple cards such as Magical Scientist and Pankratops were released as commons.
@lukemacinnes5124
@lukemacinnes5124 Жыл бұрын
I think a top 10 cards that basically ignore rulings could be interesting, those cases of cards where you look up the rules and konami just says it works like this because we want it to
@Enby_adams_
@Enby_adams_ Жыл бұрын
i'm so happy to see that these videos are sponsored, I love this channel and deserves everything
@WillTBear1
@WillTBear1 Жыл бұрын
Thought it was weird when I saw Senet Switch again in a new pack. Now I'm working on a Vaylantz deck so I can play a board game while my opponent plays Yugioh.
@Leon-nd3mm
@Leon-nd3mm Жыл бұрын
Splendid vid, the next one should be top cards that are underrated by the community but perform very well in dealing with the meta 👍
@Aloyus_Knight
@Aloyus_Knight Жыл бұрын
So basically the polar opposite of this vid? Gee how original.
@runningoncylinders3829
@runningoncylinders3829 Жыл бұрын
@@Aloyus_Knight There's actually roughly speaking 2 routes with this: One's fairly well documented, and while useful, not particularly interesting... cards that aged well. That's like Aqua Dolphin and a lot of early GY stuff before it became a resource. The other is cards that were overlooked on prerelease but saw play in the same format soon after.
@xuspirahopte5549
@xuspirahopte5549 Жыл бұрын
The newest honorable mention I would like to give is Kurikara Divincarnate looking on paper to be a one sided Nibiru/Kaiju with extra value generation or surprise OTK potential.
@darklombax2580
@darklombax2580 Жыл бұрын
Muskets are not overhyped. “Huffs copeuim “ We just need one more piece of support “huffs more copeuim”
@MartinX2021
@MartinX2021 Жыл бұрын
They have some real potential. I got this deck to Diamond II in Master Duel. They can stand their ground against the meta with the right piloting.
@chrishanson5846
@chrishanson5846 Жыл бұрын
@@MartinX2021 Not really,sometimes your bullets are separated from your musketeers and all you can do is pray your pots give you what you need.
@darklombax2580
@darklombax2580 Жыл бұрын
@@MartinX2021 sir how much copeuim have you been huffing because you need to save the rest for earth machines
@jabermogwai5996
@jabermogwai5996 Жыл бұрын
@@MartinX2021 in bo1 format any deck can be used to climb ladder since there is no side deck and you never know what you play againts, just look at numeron, its so good in bo1 but cant do shit in bo3
@brianpotter237
@brianpotter237 Жыл бұрын
If you havent done this already, I think a video about top 10 cards with ruling nighmares would be fun.
@Sammechu
@Sammechu Жыл бұрын
Master Duel has made me believe that if Maxx "C" was legal in TCG, Crossout Designator would see a LOT of play. Without it however it's just kinda there though
@ab14967
@ab14967 Жыл бұрын
That is straight up a massive reason for it. Crossout is an awkward one-for-one trade in most instances without Maxx "C" being legal in the TCG.
@lioninjawarloc
@lioninjawarloc Жыл бұрын
@@ab14967 crossout is a straight up minus 1. Its only played in ocg style formats because hitting maxxc is THAT important
@bismarckimperia8781
@bismarckimperia8781 Жыл бұрын
Pretty much you lose 2 for a 1. Essentially a -1 and you lose that card itself. Pretty much a very clutch card but very akward against others.
@justice8718
@justice8718 Жыл бұрын
For Despia, Crossouf is a “why not” because they don’t like Ash Blossom at all.
@soukenmarufwt5224
@soukenmarufwt5224 Жыл бұрын
Called by the Grave is also semi limited in the OCG. These anti hand trap cards only targets is Maxx C or Ash in the OCG
@kennydarmawan13
@kennydarmawan13 Жыл бұрын
Now do the opposite, cards that seemed innocuous and worthless when first shown, and ended up performing better than expected. And when I mean that, I mean cards that, upon release, get played a lot.
@siftheadsdude
@siftheadsdude Жыл бұрын
He’s already done a few videos like that lol
@kennydarmawan13
@kennydarmawan13 Жыл бұрын
@@siftheadsdude I see. I'm not talking about Grinder Golem. But cards that were laughed at prerelease and very played upon being released.
@giftedfox4748
@giftedfox4748 Жыл бұрын
I got the box set of the noble knights and the main reason for that is because I was a big fan of the King Arthur and Merlin story. The deck didn't hold very well but it was kind of interesting.
@SkeletonHandss
@SkeletonHandss Жыл бұрын
I LOVE Dark World! Still my main deck choice to this day. Would love a video/segment about them in depth one day.
@trentonalbers3981
@trentonalbers3981 Жыл бұрын
Same here! I use my Dark World deck in tournaments.
@jugemujugemu4690
@jugemujugemu4690 8 ай бұрын
brother
@humanoid251
@humanoid251 Жыл бұрын
Ironic that this list includes the Dark World archetype given that the new support for it looks like it could potentially boost this deck to Tier 1 status
@San-san6499
@San-san6499 Жыл бұрын
DuelLogs in a couple of years: Top *10 cards that have the letter Y in their name*
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective
@Akechi_The_Phantom_Detective Жыл бұрын
This brings back memory though to be fair it wasn't so much the "community" that overhyped Sea Monster of Theseus but rather Jerome McHale through that glorious Yu-Gi-Oh! Blogspot post. Poor Jerome must not have known that this card would be released in the same set as Zodiacs, That Grass Looks Greener, Fairy Tail - Snow and all of the good paleozoics.
@dylanogg347
@dylanogg347 Жыл бұрын
10:46: And to think, Yubel tried to annihilate all of reality with that card as a staple of her combos.
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024
@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 Жыл бұрын
I can’t 💀😭
@dylanogg347
@dylanogg347 Жыл бұрын
@@bmwjourdandunngoddess6024 And yet she got pretty close.
@gododoof
@gododoof Жыл бұрын
I recall the noble knights being really good in duel links.
@r4nd0mguy99
@r4nd0mguy99 Жыл бұрын
Wait…Who overhyped the cards now? Because Theseus was definitely overhyped by Konami, but the title specifies the playerbase.
@LegendaryAntiHero
@LegendaryAntiHero Жыл бұрын
Noble Knights were meta in Duel Links. Those Lair of Darkness decks were always annoying to play against at locals even when Sky Striker was at full power at the time. They would tribute my Striker links for cost and Raye wouldn't come back. Also they had that virus card that gets rid of spells from field and hand.
@thejamesonthestreet
@thejamesonthestreet Жыл бұрын
DL meta cannot really be compared with TCG meta tho.
@Meanlucario
@Meanlucario Жыл бұрын
I feel like what change Naturia Pineapple needs to work would be for it's revival ability to change to "If you discard a Naturia monster from your hand or have a Naturia monster on your side of the field, summon a Naturia Pineapple from your graveyard. This effect can only be used once per turn."
@thedragonauthority
@thedragonauthority Жыл бұрын
To be fair, Sea Monster of Theseus is a really good Super Poly target against quite a few decks, like Anamancepators.
@thisisiampie6946
@thisisiampie6946 Жыл бұрын
And spright, hit their diva normal summon
@heroofdogmatika9051
@heroofdogmatika9051 Жыл бұрын
Mr Logs, i don't know what you are talking about, Noble Knights have to be Meta this time. Look at all this support, they have to be meta this time
@CrnaStrela
@CrnaStrela Жыл бұрын
:copium:
@Hamboarding
@Hamboarding Жыл бұрын
Poor Noble Nights… They could try to integrate Infernobles and Nobles more with some Noble and cross-support. Maybe not all hope is lost…
@daftside58
@daftside58 Жыл бұрын
Good video as always is increíble the tops Made with Yugioh themes. Sugestion for new tops. Top cards never reprinted after thier original set (for examples: EH aire neos, Maiden of aqua, vicius claw)
@ContraryASMR
@ContraryASMR Жыл бұрын
"Noble Knight equip spells are good against Shaddoll Construct" is one of the funniest bits of troll-logic ever put out by Konami
@Varatil
@Varatil Жыл бұрын
Glad you're getting that sponsor money! You work hard and I've gotten tons of hours of engagement from your videos!
@kennydarmawan13
@kennydarmawan13 Жыл бұрын
As for number 1, if the equip spells behaved more like MtG's equipments or even auras, the Noble Knights would be butt-crushingly busted and maybe even be hyper-banned. EDIT: Okay, maybe that was an overreaction. But Yu-Gi-Oh! Equip spells aren't balanced around how MtG does its equipment cards. When all that's needed is to reattach to another monster as it stays on the field, that might break some Equip spell cards in how different they go in Yu-Gi-Oh!
@hazio7574
@hazio7574 Жыл бұрын
not really
@kennydarmawan13
@kennydarmawan13 Жыл бұрын
@@hazio7574 I see. Still, an equip archetype is unbalanced if run on MtG's equipment system.
@milesandrews6711
@milesandrews6711 Жыл бұрын
Yeah, it'd break the ones that are already just a cut above alot of the cards like call of the haunted It wouldn't break axe of despair tho
@kennydarmawan13
@kennydarmawan13 Жыл бұрын
@@milesandrews6711 Care to give me an example or two?
@milesandrews6711
@milesandrews6711 Жыл бұрын
@@kennydarmawan13 of what Equip spells that would be broken, or ones that'd stay garbage
@BigCatRob
@BigCatRob Жыл бұрын
I recently picked up Vaylantz because it looked more fun to play out of the archetypes in the booster set with all the movement shenanigans. I've been learning some of the more basic combos but it's definitely one of the harder archetypes to learn IMO. Since Senet Switch is a soft once per turn, it's great if you have the Vaylantz monster, Hojo, on the field as he can return a face-up card in the Spell&Trap zone back to the hand and then you can use Senet Switch a second time that turn.
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Жыл бұрын
14:18 The “Noble” archetype’s main woe to me seems like the inherent weaknesses of Equip Spell Cards, so perhaps some general equip spell support tied to the them could help…. _Armory Of The Noble._ Continuous Spell Card _When you summon a “Noble” monster, or destroy a card by battle or effect using a “Noble” monster, you can add 1 equip spell card to your hand from your deck or GY. Once per turn, you can treat any number of monsters equipped with equip spell cards as tuners until the beginning of your next turn. When you XYz summon a monster, you can attach any equip spell cards attached to its materials to it as materials. During the battle phase, you can target 1 equip spell card in your hand and one on the field, banish the card in your hand; the targeted equip spell on the field gains the banished cards name and effects while face up on the field until the end of your turn._
@terry4751
@terry4751 Жыл бұрын
Sure but i think the deck need a good boss monster too For example Noble knight of the darkness Fusion/effect/tuner( mabe some uses i dont know) 2 warrior monster You can fusion summon this card by banishing 3 noble knight monsters from your hand or gy When this card is fusion summoned add noble knight card to your hand Once per turn during either players turn send a equip card to the gy(can be your opponent equip card) to destroy one card on the field Once per turn you can banish 2 equip card to add all of you banished noble knight cards to your hand. This card cannot be activated during the turn its summoned. You can only activate each effect of this card once per turn.
@DeitySkullKid
@DeitySkullKid Жыл бұрын
When you summon a noble monster, or when you destroy a card, instead go for benkei otk, gotcha, might wanna limit what can be searched somehow Also , Jesus in that lack of OPT effects, how many cards are you wanting me to add to hand? You can just keep going. Actually yeah, that during the battle phase non OPT, let's just, y'know, banish a card, give attack boost or something, then swap to allow double attack, then boost attack again/search again, not to mention it doesn't need to target an equip equipped to a noble monster, especially with all the free equip cards I just searched, this is literally just an equip otk turbo card Or y'know, also just get halq out This was NOT thought out
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Жыл бұрын
@@terry4751 Of course. My logic was with the above card, being able to treat monsters equipped with Equip Spells as tuners AND allowing XYZ monsters to use said equip spell cards as additional materials would go hand in hand with the archetypes already existing extra deck monsters, while being general enough to see use with other kinds of decks.
@dustinvance243
@dustinvance243 Жыл бұрын
It would be better as a field spell. Being a continuous card gets in the way and limits the amount of equip spells you can have on the field.
@nunyabiznes33
@nunyabiznes33 Жыл бұрын
Maybe they can just rework equips? Like, they can't be targetted by effects on the turn they are equipped or something.
@jksanrio
@jksanrio Жыл бұрын
This video looking at some entire historical archetypes is awesome!
@zandernator
@zandernator Жыл бұрын
What about Witch’s Strike? That card sounds so busted and got so much hype only for everyone to realize how specific and easy to negate it was since nobody noticed it was a normal trap, not a counter trap.
@Hugelag
@Hugelag Жыл бұрын
If you don't mind, I have a couple ideas. Top 10 worst mill cards Best Story cards part 2 Top 10 cards that show actual cards Top 10 cards that aren't in Master Duel Top 10 stall cards. Top 10 generic pendulum cards. Top 10 special conditions in the games. More Rescue Rabbit, please.
@kpro8908
@kpro8908 Жыл бұрын
Playing with the Noble Knights deck in DuelLinks actually got me back into Yugioh during the Pandemic after almost a decade of not touching a single card. I still run Noble Knights on Master Duel, and while I lose 4/5 of the time with them the archetype is the right balance of versatile and confusing for me to have a great time
@swisschese1323
@swisschese1323 Жыл бұрын
Yo Spell Chronicle straight up got the Morbius treatment
@Wolf_Nations
@Wolf_Nations Жыл бұрын
Ah the Noble Knights, I actually play a Noble Night deck sometimes (with the new support of Isolde/Infernobles). I know they arent really good but I play Ghostricks so that tells what you need to know about me XD
@DanelerH
@DanelerH Жыл бұрын
10:57 I remember discussions about Senet Switch in a Yugioh Discord server I frequented. One group thought Senet Switch would allow you to move cards from the Extra Monster Zone, while the other said it would probably be limited to the Main Monster Zones. There was another split on whether Links would slow the game down. If so, Senet Switch could still be useful for positioning in your Main Monster Zone to free up Link arrows. I was half right. I was in the latter category for Senet Switch, but thought the game would slow down with Links. Then we got Firewall Dragon and Trickstars.
@qedsoku849
@qedsoku849 Жыл бұрын
5:00 I was one of the guys who played diabolos in striker, it was really good back in the day.
@joshfarmer8408
@joshfarmer8408 Жыл бұрын
This was a very fun idea for a list, if you want another one, how about top ten arcatypes with the most members
@blaze3422160
@blaze3422160 Жыл бұрын
Magical Musketeers are one of top 5 favorite archetypes just because there’s so much potential. But they really a very slow control like deck that it can be a real challenge to fight off the meta.
@ShiroiKiba
@ShiroiKiba Жыл бұрын
I'm terrified whenever Magical Muskets drop the Ties of the Brethren.
@MartinX2021
@MartinX2021 Жыл бұрын
You need to play them similarly to a Sky Striker deck. Going second and lots of hand traps. Once you get Caspar and Doc on the field, this deck becomes a powerhouse.
@pandabytes4991
@pandabytes4991 Жыл бұрын
IMO, Sea Monster of Theseus is a good Super Poly target to get rid of problem cards like Halq... that is assuming you can spare an extra deck slot for it and are already running Super Poly.
@redspiralray2880
@redspiralray2880 Жыл бұрын
Would love to see a "Top 10 Mystical Refpanel Targets" list.
@renjitsu26
@renjitsu26 Жыл бұрын
Loved the video. The audio kinda goes to shyt at 15:00 if that's something you care about
@zdelrod829
@zdelrod829 Жыл бұрын
Ancient Leaf was overhyped and EXTREMELY overbought during that time when it was "leaked" that MR5 would start with 16k LP
@doomzilla3568
@doomzilla3568 Жыл бұрын
Dang shame such hyped cards or certain archetypes that has so much potential that can be popular in the meta game but ultimately fall short in the long run as the metagame is constantly ever changing in a very fast rate which the hyped promised cards can't keep up at all.
@Vlidery13
@Vlidery13 Жыл бұрын
Also let's not forget Theseus's first printing was misprinted 😂
@valansvg4110
@valansvg4110 Жыл бұрын
Was Theseus even hyped by the community? I remember people making fun of Konami for hyping it up too much lol
@TWLSpark
@TWLSpark Жыл бұрын
It was Konami, but it goes without saying that the parent company is just as part of the community as anyone else!
@thomasrico9227
@thomasrico9227 Жыл бұрын
Idk if you’ve done it yet but a top 10 meta breaking decks list or a top 10 combo decks list would be cool
@leemcdonald1342
@leemcdonald1342 Жыл бұрын
Video idea: 10 cards that are more popular in the TCG than the OCG.
@Warpenguin55
@Warpenguin55 Жыл бұрын
I actually was surprised Sea Monster wasn't #1. I didn't know Noble Knights were hyped
@deathmankid
@deathmankid Жыл бұрын
I remember Abyss Actor Wild Hope being overhyped for no reason, the week of their release
@user-nm1eu1xu1j
@user-nm1eu1xu1j 4 ай бұрын
with senet switch. I only learned about the hype after links had been out for a little while, and thought the hype had been about moving monsters to free up your link arrows, rather than moving from emz to main, and ground collapse would theoretically be used similarly to block the zones next to the unoccupied emz
@1doobiedoo
@1doobiedoo Жыл бұрын
This man really just made a list of rogue decks to try. Thank you, TheDuelLogs.
@sirknightjcb9310
@sirknightjcb9310 Жыл бұрын
The ironic fact about Noble Knights is, say it with me now. *In Yugioh Duel Links*, they were a Tier 1 strategy due to how much they abuse Balance to the point that the Skill became heavily nerfed. Thanks again for ruining my D/D/D and Triamid strategies.
@GuardDogEvents
@GuardDogEvents Жыл бұрын
A gladiator beasts video would be great. They were such a great deck in the era of dad and x sabres
@BondhanClanner
@BondhanClanner Жыл бұрын
If "Noble Knights" became known (even still not useful) just because their sub-archetype became Meta, "Lightsworn" situation is reversed. "Lightsworn" broke several time just because Judgement Dragon and Ryko, but after their sub-archetype released, "Twilightsworn", they kinda abandoned and forgotten fast. Its shame something that suppose support something ended up crushing them.
@godogodo8893
@godogodo8893 Жыл бұрын
Despite not being that strong, I still love noble knights. My favourite deck of all time
@CaptainJLinebeck
@CaptainJLinebeck Жыл бұрын
Kinda surprised Red Eyes Dark Dragoon isn't on this list for the TCG side anyway
@TheArcv2
@TheArcv2 Жыл бұрын
Its really hard to say how over-hyped REDD was in the TCG because OCG got it pre-covid lockdowns in late 2019 and TCG got it in the fall of 2020. There were so many less high profile tournaments where REDD was at full power its hard to use the same metrics of tops to evaluated it. Its definitely true that by the time tournaments did pick up and especially when DPE was released the card completely fell off.
@KuKuKlock123
@KuKuKlock123 Жыл бұрын
When I started playing again this year REDD definitely warped the meta at the local level. All the budget players had REDD and all the meta slaves had outs. You HAD to play non-targeting, non-destruction cards, Kaijus,… or else it was a scoop.
@13thKingMu
@13thKingMu Жыл бұрын
Probably because it was used competitive in tcg even though almost non of them topped a event and is completely fell once Dpe released
@tsundude4320
@tsundude4320 Жыл бұрын
Crossout was a for sure thing but, due to the lack of hand traps and Maxx c, rip
@randomprotag9329
@randomprotag9329 Жыл бұрын
it was a really good thing that cross out was overhyped cause if cross out is a staple handtraps are too powerful or the meta needs more vierity
@arrownoir
@arrownoir Жыл бұрын
That’s why they just limited it in MD, HTs are running rampant there.
@randomprotag9329
@randomprotag9329 Жыл бұрын
@@arrownoir my thinking that the ban list is not based on a card seeing too much use and then a check to see if its an issue, with a check for niche problematic cards. they also check a list of cards that even if identified as a problem they will ban around which would explain why cross out was hit despite max c making it a staple.
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire
@ButFirstHeLitItOnFire Жыл бұрын
@@arrownoir How about… And I’m just winging it here… An anti-hand trap monster that doesn’t do much else besides ignore and counter hand traps… Ley me try: _Hand-Trapper_ (EARTH) Level 4 Warrior/Tuner/Effect _This card is unaffected by cards or effects that activate from your opponents hand. Once per turn (quick effect), when your opponent would activate a card or effect from their hand, you can negate that effect, then equip that card to this card, and if you do this card gains the following effects based on what kind of card it was:_ ⚫️Monster: This card gains ATK/DEF equal to the ATK/DEF of any monsters equipped to this card. ⚫️Spell: When you would use this card as material for an Xyz Summon, you can attach cards equipped to this card as material for that Xyz Monster. ⚫️Trap: Once per turn this card cannot be destroyed by battle or card effect each ATK/1500 DEF/1500
@Hamboarding
@Hamboarding Жыл бұрын
I think Crossout Designator is really underestimated nowadays… …except on Master Duel where I can just not understand the recemt limit of the card at all…
@Hamboarding
@Hamboarding Жыл бұрын
Some decks rely on it to counter Nibiru as there aren't any viable alternatives. I know there's Sales Ban and Prohibiton but they pale in comparison. And many rouge and gimmick decks can't get a generic monster effect negate (e.g. negate monster effects off the field or graveyard like in the hand or banished zone) before 5 summons. Crossout saved me time and time again on Master Duel when it was at 3 and I am stoked to soon be able to afford 3 for my Trickstar deck in the TCG as that card is/was HELLA and unreasonably expensive. Hey, maybe DuelLogs has a point here after all seeing the limiting in Master Duel and the insane price for the card in the TCG up until now.
@JackSpadeVT
@JackSpadeVT Жыл бұрын
Ngl when I first understood how Link Monsters worked, I kinda thought Senet Switch *could* have some niche tech options
@MummyNapkin
@MummyNapkin Жыл бұрын
It's funny because people were seriously worried about Crossout and then we immediately hit a meta with decks that didn't have a lot of handtraps
@CamelHoarder101
@CamelHoarder101 Жыл бұрын
The numeron engine up until the day of release was mega hyped then the prices dropped like a rock.
@FullUhFools
@FullUhFools Жыл бұрын
I tried making the Dark Worlds work with the Danger! Engine but was having serious consistency issues. Either a hand full of Danger cards or Dark World bricks. But who knows, someone might make it work somehow.
@zhangbill1194
@zhangbill1194 Жыл бұрын
I play danger darkworld in master duel, look at my clips on my channel, if you're interested, I can give you the deck list.
@sigmaenjoyer7020
@sigmaenjoyer7020 Жыл бұрын
the new support give them so much draw power, i think consistency is not their worries, they still vulnerable though unless you out Grapha Overlord first.
@FullUhFools
@FullUhFools Жыл бұрын
@@sigmaenjoyer7020 nice! I probably should have experimented more. Like with most decks i get the basics down and wander to others. I get lost in the sauce. lol
@sigmaenjoyer7020
@sigmaenjoyer7020 Жыл бұрын
@@FullUhFools i run pure dark world and their consistency is insane that i can fill my hand so easily with Grapha and Reign-Beaux combo, I'm currently testing them with Slifer deck to get even more insane draw power or with Obelisk to get those juicy damage.
@FullUhFools
@FullUhFools Жыл бұрын
@@sigmaenjoyer7020 my tiny brain just couldn't figure out how to get them discarded to the grave. 😂Even though now I'm thinking theres probably hundreds I need to look for.
@BlackRabbitWonderland
@BlackRabbitWonderland Жыл бұрын
I would love to see bad cards in otherwise good archetypes or the opposite, good cards in otherwise bad archetypes. Another great video DL!
@Ruby_Mullz
@Ruby_Mullz Жыл бұрын
The only deck I remember playing Sea Monster Of Theseus was cyber dragon since u could if and cyber dragon to make Ultimya Tzolkin to summon crystal wing. So with a good hand u could end on infinity crystal wing.
@MasterArchfiend
@MasterArchfiend Жыл бұрын
Crsystal Seer: Only used it in video games because it is in the starter deck. Dark World barely got a boost and they up and gave it an R just to try and fix it. Lair of Darkness is annoying, but not great. It’s crazy how different the OCG and TCG are despite sharing most of the meta relevant cards at any time. I forget about Naturia Pineapple at times. Honestly if I touch the archetype, then it is in sealed, Cherries in Over the Nexus and the synchros. Magical Musket is still fun to play. Just because it isn’t meta doesn’t make it bad for a good time. I never actually understood Spell Chronicle. If it could avoid being destroyed, sure, but even in the anime it felt so bad. I feel like I was the only who liked the column cards in CDIP and I do like how Senet Switch just got support because it is one of the few cards that can move other cards more than once. Sea Monster of Theseus is one of my favorite fusions and just because I enjoy weird decks like Zombie Fusion. I have made so many versions. I like Noble Knights, but I also get why it isn’t that great outside of certain cards. Infernoble is just better and is more focused on synchro summoning which I just like more as a mechanic than Xyz summoning.
@ShiningJudgment666
@ShiningJudgment666 Жыл бұрын
Different ban lists will do that in the case of TCG and OCG relevant cards. Also the TCG and OCG exclusives. Maxx C changes deck-building in the case of the OCG, turning Ash Blossom and Called by the Grave from almost always recommended to mandatory and moving Crossout Designator from side-deck to highly recommended. Cards that are almost universally useful will see play regardless of format unless they're powercrept out of favour, get banned or stop being useful.
@royaldayz18
@royaldayz18 Жыл бұрын
I distinctly remember that people were also hyping up Elementsabers as "the next Zoo" due to their ability to basicallyy turn every monster in the archetype into foolish burial. But then it turns out its nowhere near good enough, hell its probably one of the few vrains-era archetypes I can think of that never once got more than a single wave of support. Even the likes of Metaphys and Tindangle dodged this fate
@nelsal6416
@nelsal6416 Жыл бұрын
I think the main reason Magic Musket had it rough was because it was expensive to make as well
@Niaktru
@Niaktru Жыл бұрын
when i was younger i thought trade in was such a good card, explains why i frigging bricked so much. now i know that level 8 main decks either need to be boss monsters, easy to summon, or key cards in some way
@hnglbanana
@hnglbanana Жыл бұрын
i'm never going to get over the line 'all of which would turn off your pineapple, due to its restrictions'
@hero_of_legend7071
@hero_of_legend7071 Жыл бұрын
"Let's not go to Camelot. It's a silly place" -Konami
@mysteriousf7940
@mysteriousf7940 Жыл бұрын
2017 was just nut. Zoodiac, SPYRAL, True Draco, Aleister, Pendulum Magicians and Link monsters such as Firewall Dragon. And they thought a squid would be the best of the bunch
@Niaktru
@Niaktru Жыл бұрын
having gotten back into yu hi oh recently, i didn't realize how bad so many lightsworn cards are, could you do a top 10 worst cards in the LS archetype, or for other archetypes?
@SirBanners
@SirBanners Жыл бұрын
Seeing noble knights at #1 made me sad, since they're one of my fave decks/archetypes
@FentonHardyFan
@FentonHardyFan Жыл бұрын
Yeah, me too. If I were a character in one of the animes I would definitely play Noble Knights.
@juanenriqueescobedoguzman6791
@juanenriqueescobedoguzman6791 Жыл бұрын
This is superb. Why don't you make a top 10 of pendulums? I would like to explore them a little further
@q306005
@q306005 4 ай бұрын
I genuinely expected Red-Eyes Dark Dragoon to be on this list. A card with multiple ban-worthy effects that got talked up like crazy and yet nobody ended up playing. The ultimate noob fodder.
@breakthesword2552
@breakthesword2552 Жыл бұрын
Congrats on 300k your the best so deserved🤩🤩🤩
@trentonalbers3981
@trentonalbers3981 Жыл бұрын
I thought the War Rock archetype would be on the list for sure. I still love the Dark World archetype even though the monsters can’t activate their effects if they are discarded for a cost. Hopefully the new Dark World deck coming out in 2023 will help one of my favorite archetypes.
@Onyxs
@Onyxs Жыл бұрын
War Rock probably isn’t on here because it wasn’t hyped up by anyone and everyone knew it was trash from the start
@trentonalbers3981
@trentonalbers3981 Жыл бұрын
@Onyxs: I remember watching a video that said there were a lot of people excited about War Rocks just because they thought the artwork looked cool. Then the card effects were revealed and they turned out to be disappointing. I respect your opinion though.
@Sokaras3
@Sokaras3 Жыл бұрын
Could we have a video explaining what TCG exclusive archetypes are and a quick round up/listing of those archetypes? It is actually hard at times to find a proper list of which archetypes started out as TCG exclusive
@36inc
@36inc Жыл бұрын
I bought that big 100 dollar set for the noble knights just cause they were extremely pretty. I do not care they suck I was running mermails still XD
@Safersephiroth777
@Safersephiroth777 Жыл бұрын
How about the opposing. Cards that people thought they would either suck or not see play but ended up performing very well.
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