Top 10 Differences Between House of the Dragon and the Books

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Since "Fire & Blood" is a history book, showrunners made a lot of changes when creating "House of the Dragon." For this list, we’ll be looking at the changes this HBO fantasy series made when adapting George R. R. Martin’s novel, “Fire & Blood.” Beware of major spoilers ahead. Our countdown includes Rhaenyra & Criston’s Tryst, How Laena Dies, Who Kills the Strongs, and more! Were there any other changes you noticed? Point them out in the comments!
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@WatchMojo
@WatchMojo Жыл бұрын
Were there any other changes you noticed? Point them out in the comments! For more House of the Dragon, check out our playlist!: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/jNankttjz7LFY58.html
@youtuber9626
@youtuber9626 Жыл бұрын
Today I have birthday and I have one wish please do next video about top things Munich movie got factually right and wrong plzz🙏🙏🙏
@SagarTheSeven
@SagarTheSeven Жыл бұрын
Two things I would like to mention:- 1) Velaryons appearance: Velaryons are traditionally most closer to Targaryens and historically there were many marriages between Velaryons and Targaryens, in recent times Aegon I's mother was Valaena Velaryon and also Jaehaerys's mother was Alyssa Velaryon. So if Velaryons are dark skinned then it means whole of Targaryens should be of mixed race otherwise it doesn't make sense. 2) Rhaenys Targaryen's appearance: According to books, Rhaenys Targaryen has Black hair because her mother was Jocelyn Baratheon and we all knows Baratheon/Durrandan seed is very strong. This appearance was also used as an excuse from Rhaenyra's side that her children has taken their appearance from thier grandmother.
@orlandoarroyo7901
@orlandoarroyo7901 Жыл бұрын
Like always the people Race Baiting about diversity r the Real Racist, look how the Black People r Portraited , woman burned alive & Uncle Tom backing the People who killed his Gay son.
@robcostello5802
@robcostello5802 2 ай бұрын
Uhhhmmmm…. Lord of the rings
@VexGone
@VexGone Жыл бұрын
To think human mind is capable of creating such massive and intriguing stories is just mind boggling. All this came from the mind of one person !
@nellabella926
@nellabella926 Жыл бұрын
Ik I couldn’t be the only one mind blown by this. I was not as captivated with the world when it came on to The Harry Potter Series by J.K. Rowling but G.R.R. Martin…. Splendid,superb storytelling skills.
@Doo-doo_Ninja
@Doo-doo_Ninja Жыл бұрын
Right?! The world building in his series is incredible 🤩
@imgrizze
@imgrizze Жыл бұрын
I am not disagreeing with you lemme make that point clear from the start, but he has said that he draws alot of his writing from actual events in history. It's a different level of brilliance to see how he takes actual events and people and slightly tweaks things or adds magic to the mix and still have the storytelling be amazing and not just a mash of plot points
@VexGone
@VexGone Жыл бұрын
@@imgrizze Absolutely ! I think GRRM derives a lot of inspiration from our world history and events. To be honest our history is very rich ! Imagine if proper shows are made to tell us about our histories in a visual manner. But then again, every nation moulds the history according to their own propaganda and their needs. The Game of Thrones in real world is much more sinister than some fantasy
@Biggy111
@Biggy111 Жыл бұрын
Red Rising
@emberslayer9072
@emberslayer9072 Жыл бұрын
I'm really surprised that you guys didn't include the fact the Aemond meant to kill Luke and Arrax in the book.
@TheoAjiey
@TheoAjiey Жыл бұрын
We don’t know that. The way the books are written is more like a historical text. Based on the point of view of the characters in the world.
@nafisadnan312
@nafisadnan312 Жыл бұрын
@@TheoAjiey it makes more sense in aemond not wanting to kill luke. Cuz kinslaying will activate the wrath of the blacks(13 dragons). Aemond is a little psychotic not an idiot. I just dont understand why they kept laenor alive, there is no way that could happen. Im not even gonna start about how outrageous episode 9 was
@VictorSilva-sc4hh
@VictorSilva-sc4hh Жыл бұрын
@@nafisadnan312 Because killing another gay man so soon could lead to backlash from the audience.
@raybrown9395
@raybrown9395 Жыл бұрын
@@VictorSilva-sc4hh its because they wanted to make rhaynera a better person than alicent and not a cold blooded killer that would take out her own husband who she loves
@briez9648
@briez9648 Жыл бұрын
@@TheoAjiey actually nah... They said what happened in storms end was undisputed...
@gluteusmaximus22
@gluteusmaximus22 Жыл бұрын
I loved the part where Daemon said to Viserys "It's Daemin time" and Daemed all over the place, even though that wasn't in the books. Matt Smith's performance is surely one of them
@rofln00b
@rofln00b Жыл бұрын
Surely one of the performances ever!
@RexyAndIKnowIt
@RexyAndIKnowIt Жыл бұрын
I loved the part when we allowed this joke to die because its not funny, and has never been funny.
@mikeawesome9212
@mikeawesome9212 Жыл бұрын
his performance is surely one of what? Get it together little kid, MAJOR FAIL!!!!
@OliversOil
@OliversOil Жыл бұрын
@@RexyAndIKnowIt I love the part when people that don’t like the joke comment on the joke and help promote it and get it more views. Instead of just ignoring it.
@samwilts6016
@samwilts6016 Жыл бұрын
THIS JOKE IS DEAD
@VinnyS9143101982
@VinnyS9143101982 Жыл бұрын
In the source material it is hinted that her children MIGHT have been fathered by Ser Strong. The fact that her husband is half black yet produces pure white babies & her sister by law is half back and produces milk chocolate skin babies drives the possibility even further
@jamesyu5212
@jamesyu5212 Жыл бұрын
The shows are canonical. The fact that it's been overtly stated that they are strong children multiple times means their lineage is no longer subject to speculation or debate.
@nco1970
@nco1970 Жыл бұрын
It is called genetics. Half genes from the father, half from the mother, some recessive some dominant. There are couples of mixed heritage who have white babies and each white ancestor can be several times removed. Nowadays, it is easily solved by DNA testing. There was a time where it ended in divorces or worse for the mother. There was a documentary from a UK channel a few years ago which presented families in this situation.
@jamesyu5212
@jamesyu5212 Жыл бұрын
@@nco1970 you don't need to give a lecture about things we've learned in school at 11 years old.
@jamesyu5212
@jamesyu5212 Жыл бұрын
@Jungle1422 and what's the value in your post? Even less than that asinine lecture on genetics that can be found in the back of budget cereal boxes.
@jamesyu5212
@jamesyu5212 Жыл бұрын
@Jungle1422 douche...
@obinnaokey-ndeche2337
@obinnaokey-ndeche2337 Жыл бұрын
In the book arrax didn't initiate an attack on vahagar, Aemond deliberately killed Luke and took his eye from his corpse.
@Pyke_
@Pyke_ Жыл бұрын
Yeah, Aemond in the book looks a real bad guy. But you can't really trust those narrators after all. I really like what the show is doing with this character, giving him more shades of gray
@Kopfschuss87
@Kopfschuss87 Жыл бұрын
unreliable narrators...
@chrisrubin6445
@chrisrubin6445 Жыл бұрын
yeah if a maester says something about something that happened before he was born, its definitely true, yep
@Alvaro89Rus
@Alvaro89Rus Жыл бұрын
deliberately, yes.Eye is a speculation
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
That's something I didn't remember from book and wanted to check. Thanks
@nicholasgarrick8855
@nicholasgarrick8855 Жыл бұрын
I think the adaptation carries even more meaning if we interpret fire ,and blood as a " historical retelling" and the show as objectively what occurred. Deviation from F,and b means the historians got it wrong leaving room to speculate if they were merely misinformed or intentionally recorded disinformation to shape the narrative of the history.
@mckenanbundy3578
@mckenanbundy3578 Жыл бұрын
Which explains too why Leanor’s death would have been recorded as real but we only know it was faked from the show
@ctvuniverse4414
@ctvuniverse4414 Жыл бұрын
Eh, some things maybe have been how they happened, some things not, Rhaenys killing thousands of small folk in Aegon's coronation definitely didn't happen, something like that would have been mentioned.
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
My favourite part was book Aegon saying he doesn't want to rob his sister when approached for crowning, and storyteller said he agreed only after being told of dangers that Daemon may possess.
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
@@mckenanbundy3578 Laenor was killed in the town market, with thousands of witnesses. No mention of face being disfigured. He was 100% dead in book
@Savage-nv6wr
@Savage-nv6wr 5 ай бұрын
Sure let's take a story written by hired writers with pronouns in their bio to be canon over the original author !
@LaReinaZorra
@LaReinaZorra Жыл бұрын
Comparing the book to the show is like being in a car accident, versus being a bystander to one. The book was set many years after events, while the show is taking place in real time. While some of the show choices are questionable, it’s been fun to get the bird’s eye view perspective.
@nelsonmcduff5218
@nelsonmcduff5218 Жыл бұрын
Minor difference between the books and series: Rhaenys Targaryen-Velaryon took after her Baratheon mother Jocelyn, and had black hair, not silver hair.
@jarredwilkinson4666
@jarredwilkinson4666 Жыл бұрын
I enjoyed a lot of the changes but the one that is the hardest to take is changing the race. I love the performers and that helps me bottle up Song of Ice and Fire lore. But Valyrians are noted for three things.. purple eyes (which I wish the shows used) silver gold hair and fair skins. They as a people have these traits dominate over other traits and they were pure blood elitist. The way I explain away it is that a branch of this bloodline after fleeing Old Valyria and settling in Driftmark went out sailing as they were not dragonriders. This could mean their blood not as strong and along the way this branch of the House mating with darker Essos folk and in the years since Aegon I conquest the darker skin faction rose to power by the time of Dance and then fell by the time of GoT.
@traviscue2099
@traviscue2099 Жыл бұрын
I wonder if the change was done to make it easier to identify who's who. Having more long white haired white elf looking folk may confuse people? Like I didn't get the names down of all the kids till ep 10.. and there's more kids on the way.. I just hope it wasn't for "diversity"
@AshPrimeDCFC
@AshPrimeDCFC Жыл бұрын
It makes sense that some Valyrians would be darker skinned considering where they're from. But they admitted that the only reason why Velaryons are black is just to have black people in as GOT was "too white".
@nelsonmcduff5218
@nelsonmcduff5218 Жыл бұрын
I have two problems with changing the race of the Velaryons. 1 It makes Rhaenyra having kids with someone other than her husband, make everyone who defends her look even more ridiculous when there is no doubt they aren't Laenor's kids, and 2 the Targaryens in the show all had Velaryon blood (via Queen Alyssa), but showed no trace of being mixed race. It was a silly change seemingly done for the sake of diversity, but defying logic.
@nyx4449
@nyx4449 Жыл бұрын
@@traviscue2099 it was definitely for diversity, we all know the velaryons didn't necessarily have to be black.
@traviscue2099
@traviscue2099 Жыл бұрын
@@nyx4449 I hope that's not the case. Since it only gets worse from here. I wonder if there's a quota they have to abide by
@cyberhawkgames
@cyberhawkgames Жыл бұрын
TO BE CLEAR, IN CASE SOME DON'T KNOW: Fire and Blood is a novel written as if characters within the world of Ice and Fire wrote it. There are three perspectives given for the story of the Dance of the Dragons and what happened. Because its perspective of actual living people at the time, it is subject to the biases of those people. Because of this, many things in the novel are written without super clear answers, or are just OUTRIGHT WRONG! However, with the show "House of the Dragon," George R. R. Martin and the showrunners have been dedicated to making the show as CANON as possible. BECAUSE OF THIS, anything that differs from the story as told from the book, is subject to be changed in the show, as the show will likely be giving the FULL truth, without the BIAS, as if what happens in the show is what ACTUALLY happened. Questions that were still being asked were things like who does Rhaenyra lose her virginity to? That was answered in the show. It was always in question in the book. Also, in the book, it was also in question if she was actually having an affair with Ser Harwin Strong. With the show, we also know that to be true. Basically, just because the show is adapted differently, doesn't mean it isnt good, or isnt even correct... In fact, because it is a sort of anthology HISTORY, that tells the history of the Dance of the Dragons over a wide period of time, it is very easy for the showrunners to just ask George what they should fill it in with, and keep it as authentic to the universe as possible. Unlike in Game of Thrones, which is told as a STORY, where we get the perspectives of characters going from day-to-day, and we are told everything that is needed to be told.
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
But some things happenned in a way that perspective doesn't apply.
@cyberhawkgames
@cyberhawkgames Жыл бұрын
@@gevorg1989 yes, but the amount of times that something would happen in the world of Ice and Fire is slim... everything is shady, and there is Betrayal around every corner.
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
@@cyberhawkgames but if Corlys's son was found disfigured, it'd be mentioned
@sarahxsera
@sarahxsera Жыл бұрын
Nailed the explanation...some won't get it
@jamesyu5212
@jamesyu5212 Жыл бұрын
Considering that the books are written from the perspective of unreliable narrators, I would consider the show more or less canonical.
@andreablack6892
@andreablack6892 Жыл бұрын
Exactly my thoughts
@theawesomeman9821
@theawesomeman9821 Жыл бұрын
don't know why the narrartors would describe the physical features of House Valeryion incorrectly.
@jamesyu5212
@jamesyu5212 Жыл бұрын
@@theawesomeman9821 that I believe is exclusively down to a choice to cater to the woke mob. Who cares about physical features anyway.
@liebertjohann8524
@liebertjohann8524 Жыл бұрын
George martin already said there's show canon and book canon. The timeline in the show and the book is not even the same
@jamesyu5212
@jamesyu5212 Жыл бұрын
@@liebertjohann8524 nothing I said contradicts what you just said. And whose going to be pendantic about timelines when condensing novels into movies and shows. When the Harry Potter movies were adapted from the books, no one complained about timeline or plot differences from the books. So I don't understand why some people have to be so pendantic about details that are so inconsequential to the story.
@GoatAmv
@GoatAmv Жыл бұрын
Differences The coat-of-arms of House Strong does not display a fist within a black escutcheon, with red/green/blue lines radiating from it. In the books their heraldry is just the colored lines, for the forks of the Trident River. Jason and Tyland Lannister, while twins, are never explicitly described as identical twins. The first teaser trailer shows Ser Harrold Westerling of the Kingsguard as still alive during the events of 120 AC, the Year of the Red Spring, when in the book he passed away from old age some years before that. Ser Vaemond Velaryon is Corlys Velaryon's nephew in the book, not his younger brother. Vaemond and half a dozen other younger Velaryon cousins are involved in a subplot in the book, but they've apparently been condensed into one character as "Corlys's younger brother Vaemond". Characters' physical appearances As with Game of Thrones, many of the younger cast members had to be aged-up for legal as well as pragmatic reasons: i.e. in the book, Aegon II marries when he is 13 years old, but it would be explicitly illegal for a TV series filmed in the United Kingdom to depict someone younger than 16 marrying. King Viserys I Targaryen was severely obese late in his reign: he isn't in the promo images that have been released so far, though all of these have been from the early part of his reign. Viserys had a bushy, silver-gold mustache, and cropped his hair short, while TV-Viserys wears his hair long to his shoulders. Rhaenyra Targaryen was very beautiful in her youth, but six pregnancies ruined her figure, so that she was stout by the time she was an adult. In the TV series, adult Rhaenyra doesn't look stout. This same issue actually came up in Game of Thrones: in the books, Lysa Tully is said to be very stout after many pregnancies (all of which ended in miscarriages and stillbirths, except for one), but they didn't cast a stout actress for the live-action role. Valyrians typically have eye colors ranging from purple to deep blue - as with Game of Thrones, this detail has been dropped. Rhaenys Targaryen had her father Aemon's purple eyes, and her mother Jocelyn Baratheon's black hair. Her hair later gained white streaks as she aged. Prior to the publishing of Fire & Blood, her hair was simply stated to be silver, but this is now non-canon. Although Corlys Velaryon's physical appearance is never described, the Velaryons are not known to have been black or otherwise of a dark skin tone. House Velaryon overall is described in A Feast for Crows as having typical Valyrian features such as silver hair, purple eyes, and pale skin. Aurane Waters, a bastard of House Velaryon, is considered by Cersei to resemble Rhaegar Targaryen, though he has grey-green eyes rather than purple. It is somewhat implied that lower-ranking Valyrian families weren't as strict about blood purity, but the Velaryons aren't described as one of them. Mysaria had skin pale as milk. While she is said to be a slave from Lys, and slave populations are racially mixed, she is not described as being of partial Yi Tish (East Asian) descent. Ser Criston Cole is not known to have been of Dornish descent - though House Cole are the stewards of Blackhaven, which is in the borderlands with Dorne. He is also not described as "lowborn" (the Coles are minor nobles who serve as hereditary stewards, but they are still considered nobles). He is described as having coal black hair and pale green eyes. For most of his life, old age included, Jaehaerys I Targaryen kept his beard so long it reached his wais
@Frawt
@Frawt Жыл бұрын
@@kyrahandford9831 WOW!!!!!! ARE THEY?????????????? Absolutely incredible! We had no idea! I thought they were fuckin' aquamarine in the show! Did your mum forget to come pick you up?
@Frawt
@Frawt Жыл бұрын
@Goat Amv Don't forget that Daella Targaryen, one of Jaeharys' children, was betrothed to Corlys Velaryon and was a Targaryen noble (i.e. saw plenty of Velaryons throughout her life) whose grandmother WAS A VELARYON, and she squeaked in terror the first time she saw a black person, which was a prince from the Summer Isles. If the Velaryons were black, why the fuck would Daella have squeaked in terror at a black man, who is explicitly stated she made to be a demon BECAUSE of his black skin?
@recipoldinasty
@recipoldinasty Жыл бұрын
@UCe4qVdrhGGJn7_dvM3KQ6qw yeah its kinda cringy but the show is good
@RexyAndIKnowIt
@RexyAndIKnowIt Жыл бұрын
TLDR
@Harahvaiti
@Harahvaiti Жыл бұрын
What about Daenaera Velaryon who was great-granddaughter of Vaemond Velaryon and GRRM describes her skin tone to be pale as winter snow. Showrunner Ryan Condal was explicit about the race swap of Velaryons - they did not want to have too many white people onscreen. All else is pointless shoehorning.
@gerardosalazar1442
@gerardosalazar1442 Жыл бұрын
Aemond killing luke "intentionally" in the books and by accident in the show
@jimsty7550
@jimsty7550 Жыл бұрын
That's the thing though, in the book it's written from a biased Maester who wasn't there to see the mid air battle. He couldn't emphatically say that Aemond intentionally killed him or if it was an accident, like portrayed in the show.
@gerardosalazar1442
@gerardosalazar1442 Жыл бұрын
@@jimsty7550 oh I know, I just think it could have made into the list
@hevmolina
@hevmolina Жыл бұрын
In the books everybody assumed that it was intentional, and it was accounted very differently by several people. I like the fact that in the series it was accidental, because it might have been the case in the books as well, but it's never confirmed and it is assumed that it was intentional; which is exactly how it's going to be in the series. Think about it this way: you confront your nephew demanding an eye in front of dozens of people as witnesses, try to fight him, he leaves, you chase him with your dragon, and days after that event pieces of his dragon's corpse arrive ashore. Who the hell is going to believe it was an accident?
@irenegalicia834
@irenegalicia834 Жыл бұрын
@@hevmolina Aldo we don't know yet if he will claim it was accidental or not if he lies there is no way for anyone to know what really happened
@wylerXL
@wylerXL Жыл бұрын
Number 1: time jump. 😅
@Prime_Garr
@Prime_Garr Жыл бұрын
Hahaha
@Adil28128
@Adil28128 Жыл бұрын
There are a lot of time jumps in the book as well. There aren't many details, cause it is written as a historical text
@jamiewalsh9184
@jamiewalsh9184 Жыл бұрын
The amount of people who wanted to see a coming of age teen drama is worrying lmao
@samuelenomanna8403
@samuelenomanna8403 Жыл бұрын
Not really
@joshc9453
@joshc9453 Жыл бұрын
Time jumps are extremely accurate
@farres6667
@farres6667 Жыл бұрын
What about the way the greens were portrayed? In the book, Otto Hightower is a real Tywin Lannister as Alicent is a second Cersei. Alicent will do anything to keep her children safe from Rhaenyra, as she may turn on them to after being crowned. In the book the green council seemed even prepared for Viserys death. The series took a lot of their cunning and ambition away from the characters, especially from Alicent.
@michaelaliceajr.7308
@michaelaliceajr.7308 Жыл бұрын
Nice list
@VinnyS9143101982
@VinnyS9143101982 Жыл бұрын
The book is told from a historians point of view. And in OUR world historians don't know everything, they sometimes speculate. So just imagine the show takes you there in person while the book tells you what happened from the point of view of someone who was born 200 years later
@homerc9101
@homerc9101 Жыл бұрын
Bullshit, the books are more canon than the tv show
@AcxD93
@AcxD93 Жыл бұрын
If you kill thousands of people during a coronation, historical sources about this event should exist.
@Albert-ed6wn
@Albert-ed6wn Жыл бұрын
@@homerc9101 the books are written from unreliable narrator
@Harahvaiti
@Harahvaiti Жыл бұрын
@@Albert-ed6wn yes, by Martin himself. Or is the HBO show about to fix where Martin's book messed up? That twisted principle could be applied to GOT final seasons as well then...
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
@@Harahvaiti GoT finale was good and Martin-inspired
@BlenderStudy
@BlenderStudy Жыл бұрын
Thank you for the update, WatchMojo..!! House of the Dragon is a cool show to watch..!! (Too bad Laena died.) ☹
@divine1690
@divine1690 Жыл бұрын
Main antagonist of the series = Child brith
@jasongrundy1717
@jasongrundy1717 Жыл бұрын
The awful and boring writing.
@recipoldinasty
@recipoldinasty Жыл бұрын
Thats the main antagonist of our planet right now lol
@johannesziaether3916
@johannesziaether3916 Жыл бұрын
@@jasongrundy1717 It was a very common death cause for women
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
@@johannesziaether3916 So was flat-out murder for everyone, but damn if they ever showed a gratuitous amount of it. GoT was already questionable, but HotD really went all in and I think it only damaged it rather than helped.
@samuelteixeira8251
@samuelteixeira8251 Жыл бұрын
Sor Errik is in Dragon Stone with Rhaenyra in the book. And when his brother Sor Arrik goes to deliver the message asking for Rhaenyra to recognize Aegon as king they say good by as brothers, and that is the last time they are together before they kill each other.
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
Thanks for spoiling their fate 😆 (I didn't remember that part)
@reginaphalange9417
@reginaphalange9417 Жыл бұрын
7:17 "after being riled up" hum I would use another word 😂
@reginaphalange9417
@reginaphalange9417 Жыл бұрын
6:22 actually Larys having his father and brother killed also makes him lord of House Strong and of Harrenhal, he killed two birds with one stone
@trexadvent4726
@trexadvent4726 Жыл бұрын
Can you do comic book origin of Marvel's the Elementals(Hellfire, Magnum, Hydron and Zephyr)?
@ThePatman1980
@ThePatman1980 Жыл бұрын
*Daemon* *Targaryen* If you know how Daemon dies (if he really did die) you know he leaves like a true BADASS! Better exit than Jaime Lannister. I expect so many people cheering once he exits the series which should happen probably in the end of Season 3. I'm not worried because Daemon is written as a DIVISIVE character. _ *George* *R.R.* *Martin* You know, I’m notorious for my love of morally grey characters, and one of the greyest characters in the entire story of Westeros is Daemon Targaryen, the Rogue Prince. We took one of those separate sidebars and made a story out of it ‘The Rogue Prince’. Daemon’s the younger prince of King Viserys I. For a time, he was the heir to the throne when Viserys had no children. Then Viserys had children, and he stopped being heir to the throne. He’s a *notorious* *bad* *boy,* *a* *rogue* *in* *every* *sense* *of* *the* *word,* he was a rival for Viserys’ daughter and his niece Rhaenyra, and then later he became [her] husband. He switches sides several times. You never know what side he’s going to come down on. He’s a very colorful and *unpredictable* character, and I think he has to rank up there as *my* *favorite.* *The* *Rogue* *Prince* Daemon was a skilled warrior, described in the histories as dashing, daring, and *dangerous.* He was also ambitious, *impetuous,* *mercurial,* *amoral,* *reckless,* and *quick* *to* *take* *offense.* Archmaester Gyldayn described Daemon as being as charming as he was *hot-tempered.* _ Daemon is not written as a good person, is he? He's not some Gary Stu like Steve Rogers. While I was bothered at first watching Daemon choke Rhaenyra last Friday, we have to remember he is short-tempered and unpredictable. Daemon wanted to go to war ASAP while Rhaenyra talked about dreams. He's written like an antihero. A grey character that GRRM loves. Daemon doesn't have many qualities of a hero or a good human being but he can still be heroic. And that's what makes Daemon so intriguing. You just don't know what he'll do next or how you'll feel about him. He's not written like a typical protagonist or antagonist. He's neither. Or he might be both depending on that moment. He can be a hero and a villain. That's why he's hard to understand over characters written with clichés. Choking Rhaenyra was still breaking canon and Matt Smith read it and probably shook his head. Or maybe he just went with it knowing how ruthless he can be. Did Rhaenyra have much of a choice? Daemon is her most POWERFUL ALLY. Losing him is like losing her MVP on her team. Rhaenyra can't really piss him off or divorce him at this moment, can she? She'd probably be dead without Daemon before the war even starts. Since I already know that Daemon will be one of the biggest HEROES to this war, I'm really not that worried. I'm also confident in Matt having more creative control over Daemon that he won't ruin him because a few female writers seems to hate Daemon and want him to look unredeemable. The Battle Above The Gods Eye will redeem every bad thing that viewers will feel about Daemon. Newbies can hate Daemon for the next two seasons. But once Daemon exits the show, they'll start loving him like GRRM does. More people will figure out Daemon was the hero all along even though he'll do some awful things along the way because that's what war does to people. Commit awful things. People will flip their feelings towards him like they did for Jaime by GOT's S3E3 when he saved Brienne from a gang rape. Let's just say Daemon is complicated. And our feelings towards him should feel the same. We can love him and hate him with a snap of a finger. This is just how he's written and how GRRM describes him. I find Alicent and Aegon a little more complicated for the TV show. My feelings for them can be all over the place. I usually love Daemon in every episode except a couple of moments I didn't agree with what he did. Daemon is flawed like 95% of the major characters in GRRM's lore but his real stans will only learn to accept them. Jaime RAPED Cersei next to Joffrey's corpse and fans still rooted for Jaime. Daemon was just high-strung in that heated moment with Rhaenyra. But Rhaenyra doesn't have much of a choice. She did propose marriage to him after Laena died. She needs him as much as he needs her. What did Olenna tell Daenerys when they were in Dragonstone? "You're a dragon. Be a dragon." I'm starting to think Daemon choking Rhaenyra was also a foreshadowing of Aemond and Lucerys not being able to control their dragons. You really can't control Daemon when he loses his cool. He's as hot-headed and grumpy as Caraxes. We've all seen far worse characters in Game of Thrones or in films more evil than Daemon. Some make it seem Daemon is Hannibal Lecter. _ *Matt* *Smith* There are so many elements to Daemon. I love the relationship with his brother. He’s a brilliant character because you never quite know what he’s thinking. I liked the ambiguity of that. There’s a ruthlessness in his personality that I thought was really interesting, to see characters who behave that badly. But in many ways, he comes from what he thinks is quite a genuine place. I said this to [the producers] at the start that I don’t just wanna make it this one thing. On the page, Daemon could really be one thing. I was always interested in trying to subvert it a little into something else. I think there’s a sort of strange, sensitive nature to Daemon and quite a genuine loyalty to him and humanistic qualities that you can peel away and see. What I uncovered, which perhaps wasn’t there in black and white, is that there’s a deep fragility to Daemon, actually - particularly when it comes to his brother. He cares what his brother thinks. The rest of the empire can go stick it. He doesn’t really give a toss. The thing with Daemon is he just keeps pushing - pushing the envelope, pushing the boundaries, pushing the rules that were in place around him. But it’s weird. The more time I spent with palace intrigue … He’s got a strange moral compass of his own. What looks like he’s just being erratic and mad, he thinks he’s doing the right thing. There’s a sort of folklore among ‘Fire & Blood’ fans and ‘Game of Thrones’ fans that when a Targaryen is born, you flip a coin. One side is greatness and the other side is madness, and you don’t know which side it’s going to land on. With Daemon, the coin is still in the air. _ *Sara* *Hess* He’s become Internet Boyfriend in a way that baffles me. Not that Matt isn’t incredibly charismatic and wonderful, and he’s incredible in the role. But Daemon himself is … I don’t want him to be my boyfriend! I’m a little baffled how they’re all, ‘Oh, daddy!’ And I’m just like: ‘Really?’ How - in what way - was he a good partner, father or brother - to anybody? You got me. He ain’t Paul Rudd. *Ryan* *Condal* He's not Ned Stark ... [he's] the antihero of the story ... if you’re looking for Han Solo, who’s always going to do the right thing in the end, you’re in the wrong franchise, folks. _ Daemon's greatest threats aren't Aemond and Criston but HBO writers. But Matt will save Daemon from character assassination because he gets Daemon just as much as George does. He improved Daemon with more compassion like the scene of helping Viserys and crowning him. Many scenes were an improv from Matt. HBO should fire all the writers and directors and let Matt direct all the episodes from here on out. There's a deleted scene in Ep 10 when Daemon first hears about Luke's death. He's trying to process it and thinking how to tell Rhaenyra. The final scene was Matt's idea next to the fireplace 🔥 since Targs are Fire & Blood. Matt has quietly been the MVP of the HBO production crew. The guy is trying to make Daemon look great like how he's written in F&B because he fully gets the character while the HBO writers wants to keep destroying GRRM's fav Targ and Aemond's idol. Don't worry, Team Daemon. Let the naysayers hate him or feel confused. They'll flip their feelings for Daemon by the end of S3. Daemon does have an ending in place. Writers don't need to make it up. Matt will save Daemon from all his haters in the writing staff trying to turn him into an unsympathetic monster by adding bullsh-t non-canon/breaking character scenes like choking Rhaenyra and deleting Daemon hugging his daughters. Real Daemon stans know better.
@thegreatpage5912
@thegreatpage5912 Жыл бұрын
He definitely died during that event. Him living was made up by mummers and singers to tell a good story.
@VictorArriaga239
@VictorArriaga239 5 ай бұрын
I just read that part in the book 2 days ago and I was cheering in my head hahaha. I was upset obviously but also glad he didn't go out boring.
@Noobmaster-du3gu
@Noobmaster-du3gu Жыл бұрын
Well the book is Munkins version, now were having the GRRM version and im lovin it.
@cjxvi
@cjxvi Жыл бұрын
In the book Vaemond’s carcass was fed to Syrax
@laurend.statham1742
@laurend.statham1742 Жыл бұрын
Leanor: *arrives back in the next season or something and doesn’t say a word about it* His parents *are alive* Seasmoke: Leanor! What’s up my guy?! Haven’t seen you in a minute how you doin’? Lord Corlyss: hol’ up
@jimsty7550
@jimsty7550 Жыл бұрын
seasmoke?
@laurend.statham1742
@laurend.statham1742 Жыл бұрын
@@jimsty7550 Sea Smoke would be Leanor’s dragon. Since Leanor was a dragon rider and we got proof of that in the “Battle of the Stepstones” episode. The thing about Dragons is, once bonded and paired, the bond won’t end or die unless the rider dies.
@LeifSonOfRogaland
@LeifSonOfRogaland Жыл бұрын
No issue with the House Velaryon change apart from the fact that the grandchildren particularly really should have resembled Daemon more in the interest of accuracy in the same way that the "strong boys" resembled their biological father more. It didn't affect what was a brilliant first season I must add.
@samuelteixeira8251
@samuelteixeira8251 Жыл бұрын
In that case even Daemon and Viserys should be as dark as Deamons kids, cuz their grandma was a Velaryon by birth... i think a lot of people kind of forget the origins of the match maker queen Alysanne Trageryan, the aunt of Lord Corlys.
@Askh4real
@Askh4real Жыл бұрын
@@samuelteixeira8251 They could justify it by saying that Daemon Velaryon ( the son of Aethan ) married someone with dark skin or his son Corwyn ( the father of Corlys) did so, thus leading to the show appearance of the main and side branches of the Velaryon house that we've seen so far. Whereas Queen Alyssa's branch of the house would keep their fair skinned high valyrian features they inherited from their ancestors and passed them further on to Jaehaeris, Alysanne and their children (Aemon, Baelon and the others) and grandchildren (Rhaenys, Viserys, Daemon). This is the only way to tie it in and have it make sense.
@briez9648
@briez9648 Жыл бұрын
If you ask me they attempted to make it a blatant race issue.... That's my disappointment.
@LeifSonOfRogaland
@LeifSonOfRogaland Жыл бұрын
@@briez9648 No doubt. A box-ticking exercise. However, unlike RoP, I think it worked well.
@mrjjdoesgamingbeast137
@mrjjdoesgamingbeast137 Жыл бұрын
Can someone tell me what book to read based of the first season of house of dragons I want to get into the books, and if you know the order in which they go I would much appreciate it
@VictorArriaga239
@VictorArriaga239 5 ай бұрын
Idk if anyone ever told you since this comment is a year old but Fire and Blood is the name of the book. HOWEVER, you're going to be reading like 300+ pages until you even get to where we are in the first season.
@romanhuerta3365
@romanhuerta3365 Жыл бұрын
I’m also pretty sure that the Sea Snake doesn’t die in the books and actually becomes an essential ally to Rhaenyra in the wars to come
@briez9648
@briez9648 Жыл бұрын
He does... Just as a very old man
@kyleg3725
@kyleg3725 Жыл бұрын
He didnt die in the show either?
@liamellis-mergl8065
@liamellis-mergl8065 Жыл бұрын
We are probably not going to see Laenor again. Mostly because he is dead in the book and they wouldn't have any material to adapt for him. I guess they could invent original material for him in the show, but what would be the point?
@angelaholmes8888
@angelaholmes8888 Жыл бұрын
I was surprised that daemon killed his first wife
@DorisDay-lw4xs
@DorisDay-lw4xs 2 ай бұрын
Are the books worth reading? Ive read the ASOIAF books and really enjoyed those (and most of GoT) but I didn’t enjoy HOTD at all. Are the books better ?
@kylewilzon8612
@kylewilzon8612 Жыл бұрын
The only thing i didnt like about the show was the crab feeders story. It felt rushed and inconsequential.
@jineika2055
@jineika2055 Жыл бұрын
Yesssssssss finally some one talks about it
@ThePatman1980
@ThePatman1980 Жыл бұрын
I'm just sad we have to wait until 2024 for S2. Doesn't every season finale feel like graduation day? There is some closure but you're going to miss seeing your friends. I won't visit many of the KZfaq reactors until the 2nd season airs. Because GRRM lore can be dissected and talked about forever. MCU doesn't have the depth for it. The characters aren't that complicated. And Star Wars lost my interest many years ago. Didn't even bother with Andor. GRRM said we may get S2 by April/May 2024. And 2 years does move quickly. It's not like the 1990s when a year felt like a year. Now 5 years feels like only 1 year elapsed. They won't start filming until March next year. I wish they can film closer apart for each season. Then we only need to wait 9.5 months for the next season. The 2.5 months watching it with KZfaq reactors usually on Sundays is an awesome experience. I just love seeing people react to every episode and feeling shocked and confused. I'm going through withdrawals without any HOT D during these next 75-90+ Sundays. TBH, HOT D isn't really my favorite show. Neither was GOT. I don't even have GOT in my top 10 and that's if you removed S7 and S8. But I love discussing GRRM's lore. They have the deepest stable of complicated characters and situations that SW, Marvel, DC, and LOTR doesn't have. Oh, well. I guess I'll be watching The Mandalorian S3, The Boys S4, and Loki S2. I love all 3 but it's not on the level of HOT D when it comes to discussions or shock value. So 2023 is mostly going to be a bore without any HOT D content. Next year just won't be the same without it. I no longer rely on superhero content to entertain me. I'd rather watch classic movies from the 20th century than the cookie-cutter crap coming from MCU and DCEU.
@angelaholmes8888
@angelaholmes8888 Жыл бұрын
I like that the verlaryons' appearance is different in the show
@shaun7389
@shaun7389 Жыл бұрын
Why exactly?
@grouchyowl5361
@grouchyowl5361 Жыл бұрын
@@shaun7389 probably she is racist.
@lostpathblog
@lostpathblog Жыл бұрын
It is nice to see that they have different skin color compared to thre Targaryens, because if they were both silver haired and white, it would have been confusing for the viewers as to who is who in terms of families. On the other hand... they made them black because of the political correctness (diversity) in real life, and the hate whiteness gets from the racists leftists in the everyday life.
@ahnyjaconley6892
@ahnyjaconley6892 Жыл бұрын
but their appearance was never described in the book💀. Their appearance makes sense bc of what a melting pot Valyria was &’ bc it was located in THE HOTTEST region in essos. A Valyrian feature is purple eyes, platinum blonde hair , &’ fine features (NEVER does it say “pale” skin). Corlys , his children, his mother , &’ his bastards skin tone was NEVER mentioned. Also Velaryons we’re seafarers so who knows maybe they f*cked summer islanders 🤷🏿‍♀️.
@joshc9453
@joshc9453 Жыл бұрын
@@ahnyjaconley6892 nah. The actors did amazing and I really don’t care about them making the velaryons a different ethnicity but it makes negative sense. Even if at one point they were a black family they intermarried so many times with a 100% white population. The king in the beginning of the show Jahaerys l, his mother was Alyssa velaryon. Why wasn’t a mixed race actor casted for him?
@Divine_Chareka
@Divine_Chareka Жыл бұрын
The show complements the books pretty well
@Alvaro89Rus
@Alvaro89Rus Жыл бұрын
could be better
@Divine_Chareka
@Divine_Chareka Жыл бұрын
@@Alvaro89Rus of course there people who can't be happy with literally everything lol
@Bdoggydog
@Bdoggydog 9 ай бұрын
Almost as if that was intended! Because it was!
@franhall5901
@franhall5901 8 ай бұрын
Their skin tone has nothing to do with racism or diversity. The show should stick with the books
@juancarlosrodriguez4694
@juancarlosrodriguez4694 Жыл бұрын
The still say “Seven Kingdoms” Unless they refer to the Riverlands as a kingdom, they’re only 6 at this point in the timeline. Like 50 years later, King Daeron II unites Dorne through marriage alliance.
@angelno16
@angelno16 Жыл бұрын
It says in the book they count Dawn even though they have not conceded and bent the knee.
@revanius2213
@revanius2213 Жыл бұрын
9. I disliked the Maelys scene, completely pointless when she could have sent the message by going out the back, and yes there is a back, and landing in front of the Sept. 8. Not fond of that, Daemon was more nuanced in the book and Rhae's accidental death showed how sometimes fate messes with people. 7. I'm iffy on that one, could work, but it could be pointless or mess with the story n the future. 6. Larys was obvious, this just chose to show that 5. Didn't like the scene with them together, felt more like HBO trying too hard for drama 4. Was fine with this change, does add for some drama that's far more interesting than the previous entry 3. The actors were great but the change still irritated because it contrasts with book information, specifically with Viserys being half-Velaryon since his parents and grandparents were full siblings and his great-grandmother was a Velaryon. 2. Was an interesting choice, it made me actually excited, my only question is the knife, in the book that knife originally belonged to Littlefinger, if it was such an important Targaryen relic how did he get it? Honorable mentions: How is it so hard not to remember it was the other eye? Pick up the book! Corlys and Vaemond's changes works fine for the show, that's going to just be one of those it's different in the book details. Crabfeeder, I just wish we got to see Daemon kill him. I was actually intrigued by the change with Daemon stealing the egg, made him unpredictable. We all knew Beesbury died before the end of the war, this just showed it. 1. I did enjoy seeing Laenor live, made for an interesting change. It does question how Seasmoke will work since Dragons can only have one rider for as long as the rider lives. I really did enjoy the show, it has the potential to be one of the best HBO shows out there. But in the end the changes from book canon still tend to irritate more often than not.
@marksaunders3723
@marksaunders3723 10 ай бұрын
They changed the eye for safety reasons because his left eye is the weaker eye and would cause problems during fight scenes.
@ThePatman1980
@ThePatman1980 Жыл бұрын
*The* *Popularity* *of* *Daemon* *Targaryen* I saw a poll yesterday for the most popular character in House of the Dragon. Unsurprisingly to most of us, Daemon won. 42.2% - Daemon Targaryen 🖤 18.8% - Rhaenyra Targaryen 🖤 14.3% - Rhaenys Targaryen 🖤 8.1% - Aemond Targaryen 💚 5.4% - Viserys Targaryen 🖤 2.7% - Criston Cole 💚 1.8% - Corlys Velaryon 🖤 1.3% - Laenor Velaryon 🖤 Ryan Condal laughed at the notion that fans are more qualified than him and George R.R. Martin to make decisions about important characters. “Yeah, please explain to me and George who Daemon is as a character, everybody." Man, the HBO writers keep wanting to insult Daemon stans because many females worship him like he's Elvis Presley. The HBO writers dirty Daemon on TV, yet, he's still far and away the most popular character on House of the Dragon. Happy 4⃣0⃣th birthday 🎂🎈, Matt Smith. I think if Daemon ordered Blood and Cheese 100 times, he would still be the most popular. Daemon can bring Rhea Royce back from the dead 100 times and kill her in 100 different ways and he would still be the most popular. He's everyone's favorite Targaryen rock star. Daemon could do what Rhaenys did killing hundreds of innocent people in the Dragonpit 100 times and he'll still be the most popular. He can snap his finger like Thanos wearing the Infinity Gauntlet to wipe out half the universe and he'll still be the most popular. What's his appeal? He's an alpha. He's a charismatic badass. Maybe Sara Hess only dated nerds or beta males. But lots of women are attracted to bad boys. Look at Scott Peterson, a wife-killer like Daemon. He got tons of love letters and marriage proposals. Same with Charles Manson when he was still alive. *SPOILERS* Think about this for a moment. Vhagar (the largest dragon), Caraxes (the most ferocious dragon), Aemond (the most badass Green), and Daemon (the most badass Black) all crash into a body of water. And among those 4, only Daemon might have come out of it ALIVE!! That's GOAT-level. I can't think of any character from any popular franchise who exits a show as BADASS as that. Not even Iron Man and Darth Vader exited a franchise as cool as that. 😎
@leahhart3585
@leahhart3585 Жыл бұрын
As a book reader I ❤Daemon. He is a fantastic character. I don’t think he’s evil. He’s no Jon Snow but he’s not Ramsey.
@Blackadey
@Blackadey Жыл бұрын
Honestly, if they kill him off in the next season...we all will forget about him by the next episode...Don't get to attached. I learned the hard way while watching GOT
@ctvuniverse4414
@ctvuniverse4414 Жыл бұрын
How did Criston Cole even rank there?, I like his character, but he's by far the most hated character in the show.
@gailf1617
@gailf1617 20 күн бұрын
@@leahhart3585 Oh, he's evil. Not Ramsey-level but not that far away, either. He sent Blood & Cheese to so something terrible, even worse than Aemond's attack on Lucerys.
@Alvaro89Rus
@Alvaro89Rus Жыл бұрын
Rhaenys interapting coronation was incredibly stupid. As many other changes
@Shadow-zj3mu
@Shadow-zj3mu Жыл бұрын
0:37 10. How Lana dies 1:54 9. Coronation, interrupted 3:04 8. Daemon's innocence 4:23 7. Ser Harrold Westerling lives 5:34 6. Who kills the strongs 6:56 5. Rhaneyra and cristons tryst Got lazy 😂 4. 8:07 3. 9:25 2. 10:55 1. 13:45
@sebastianblackfyre
@sebastianblackfyre 8 ай бұрын
Thank you for your efforts
@jasongrundy1717
@jasongrundy1717 Жыл бұрын
LOL, the most unbelievable and crappy parts were all HBO additions! I'm not surprised.
@DannyP_Production
@DannyP_Production 6 ай бұрын
Should have made literally any other house of darker complexion and I wouldn’t have batted an eye but valerians are pale white the strongs would have been a good choice and a lot more lesser known houses are coming into play
@s.h.7613
@s.h.7613 Жыл бұрын
Why so many ppl argue about the race of fictional characters in a fictional world is mind boggling.
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
Why some argue Ancient One not being Asian?
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
If you have an emotional connection to the world, then it makes sense. May as well argue that the death of a fictional character is mind boggling too.
@AshPrimeDCFC
@AshPrimeDCFC Жыл бұрын
Why does Westeros need diversity so much? GOT didn't have that and it was amazing (for the most part). You're frothing over a tickbox. But I will agree with SOME of the acting. Corlys is great, but there is nothing worth mentioning for the others.
@trexadvent4726
@trexadvent4726 Жыл бұрын
Can you do top 10 moments from X-Men Anime?
@pallyxav7597
@pallyxav7597 Жыл бұрын
I don't think that people need to cry "racism" every time people critique the race swap of characters. I love the actors that they chose. They are doing a great job. People feel that the glaring fact that the children are not Valeryon makes it seem that it is stupid for the King to be so sure that they are. That is most likely the reason others are upset. Honestly, it is a tough subject. There is always more to things than just shouting racism every time someone brings up a valid critique. It can be addressed and discussed properly. But when you claim that racism has anything to do with it, you only perpetuate it's existence in our culture. The fact is that the race swap did throw a rock in a glass house. Raenyrs and Viserys' insistence that they were legitimate was so obviously ridiculous, some people cannot see past that thus the critique. I think no one is that stupid. It shows that he loves his daughter and his grandchildren (Which are his and he knows it. Making him a good grandpa since he knows that they would probably be killed if they acknowledge their illegitimacy). The whole thing is a valid critique on the show that people feel was done to push an agenda instead of doing something that was 100% to make sure the show was good and successful. The fact is that race and gender swapping rarely go well. And it goes both ways. There have been several movies that got hammered for white washing characters or gender swapping women to men as well. Anyways, the list was good. The show is great imo. I really like all the characters so far. I hope that they continue to do well. I hope that the show goes so long that Robert's Rebellion gets into the show. The title House of the Dragon lends it self to being able to go beyond just the war between the Blacks and Greens.
@Harahvaiti
@Harahvaiti Жыл бұрын
So those who criticized the race swap of Velaryons are racist and Ryan Condal, the showrunner of HOTD who openly admitted the swap was done to reduce the number of white actors - is not? Some even say that this way is easier to make difference between Targaryens and Velaryons. Funny how that same thing was not applied to Starks and Karstarks for example... they all looked the same, those Northerners, white and bearded.
@ryanbennett2806
@ryanbennett2806 Жыл бұрын
I see a lot of mix between the book fans saying "this is not at all mentioned or how it is noted in the books" and "its a matter of perspective". I get both arguments, but keep in mind that this is only 'canon' to the GoT TV show and not the books. They are two separate entities at this point with how far off-track things got in the TV. So if you're a book fan who found your enjoyment falling off in the last 2 or 3 seasons? Odds are you are not fond of the show. If you only ever watched the show and did not read the books? Odds are you enjoy this prequel. And there is nothing wrong with either of it.
@Clearon
@Clearon Жыл бұрын
So, Daemon character is more like Gaston from Beauty & the Beast
@texas9076
@texas9076 Жыл бұрын
Leave it to watch MOJO to bring up the race card like they always do
@DimosZargarda
@DimosZargarda Жыл бұрын
Dont mind the color change, because its done very well and does not feel forced, but I diasgree on all the points made on nr 3
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
It does feel considering they're related to Targs and from society where mixed marriage would cause uproar
@GeorgeEugeneBarrett
@GeorgeEugeneBarrett Жыл бұрын
It is absolutely forced. WTF are you smoking? You think a feudal society like Westeros would be more racially progressive than 1960’s America? LOL. It’s ridiculous.
@factualopinion4275
@factualopinion4275 Жыл бұрын
I am hoping laenor comes back
@actually_a_catt
@actually_a_catt Жыл бұрын
the secret love is in favor of cristen?!?! he was a hostage to a princess lol
@stormdragon2529
@stormdragon2529 Жыл бұрын
i hope we see ser Harold in future seasons alive and pleading loyalty to the blacks just like Erik did. i really want to see him in combat
@sadas3190
@sadas3190 Жыл бұрын
Laenor is 100% going to come back as Addam, it just makes complete sense.
@Pyke_
@Pyke_ Жыл бұрын
Yeah It would be great if Laenor come back as Addam Velaryon
@mauratlantean3002
@mauratlantean3002 Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra didn't trust Adam, so I don't think that would make sense
@sadas3190
@sadas3190 Жыл бұрын
@@mauratlantean3002 Entirely possible for Rhaenyra not to trust Laenor by that point, especially if he shows up unexpectedly. Don't forget she's already paranoid AF at that point, and their history would only add spicy drama
@mauratlantean3002
@mauratlantean3002 Жыл бұрын
@@sadas3190 You might be right since Addam claimed Seasmoke right ? But I think he was 15 or something
@traviscue2099
@traviscue2099 Жыл бұрын
The race change makes sense. Watching the show it was so hard keeping up with all the names. If the rest of the cast looked white/blonde hair it may of been more confusing? But if they changed it for "diversity" that would be idiodic. Should we change half the cast in Black Panther to other races for diversity? Of course not.
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
Race change makes sense in a mixed society. Westeros was white-dominant.
@user-wo8vy5tb8c
@user-wo8vy5tb8c Жыл бұрын
What about Aemond taking Luces eyes
@CmdrBrannick
@CmdrBrannick Жыл бұрын
I think 7 is the only change I liked. The rest makes more sense in the books to me.
@sadas3190
@sadas3190 Жыл бұрын
Lol nice veiled way to say you don't like the Velaryons being black.
@CmdrBrannick
@CmdrBrannick Жыл бұрын
@@sadas3190 I can outright say I don't as I want screen accurate portrayals of what is written. But great way to cast yourself as racist for focusing on race when there were another 9 options to pick.
@sadas3190
@sadas3190 Жыл бұрын
@@CmdrBrannick Sure buddy, you must really think everyone is so dumb to not see through what you're doing
@CmdrBrannick
@CmdrBrannick Жыл бұрын
@@sadas3190 So because I didn't like that a character was race swapped I'm suddenly racist? I hate all race swapping whether it's white to black, Asian to white or any other. No character should be race/gender/orientation swapped. And you're jumping to some mighty conclusions from just this little statement. Edit: Also find it funny you deleted your first comment. For anyone reading, it's here: "Lol nice veiled way to say you don't like the Velaryons being black"
@sadas3190
@sadas3190 Жыл бұрын
@@CmdrBrannick I didn't delete my comment, it's right there lol. If you downvoted it it probably got hidden. Also all I'm hearing are pathetic excuses. Just don't pretend people are dumb.
@Skippy196
@Skippy196 Жыл бұрын
Lyman Beesbury "being arrested" and "falling out a window" like Russian Oligarchs accidentally falling out windows and off boats.
@manthe3711
@manthe3711 Жыл бұрын
Lyman Beesbury died. Poisoned by his enemies.
@sydney33thomas
@sydney33thomas Жыл бұрын
Daemon doesn't kill his wife in the book. And it's just impossible that he did. Rhea dies while Daemon is still at war in the Stepstones. And between the end of the war and Daemon's return to King's landing, there is a year difference. This change does not add anything to the story.
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
Some suggested he could hire Faceless Man eho made it look like accident
@a.a677
@a.a677 Жыл бұрын
@@gevorg1989 that's the stupidest fucking thing. daemon doesnt have the gold, plus the faceless men would kill her. Rhea survived for days after the horse accident.
@havec6866
@havec6866 Жыл бұрын
As long as the story isn't interrupted by the changes, I am totally fine with it. Skin color is not addressed or having a bad made up plot line, so it's cool. But let's drop the song of ice and fire in season 2 already, I am with daemon let's choke anyone who talks about it in this amazing show so far
@Frawt
@Frawt Жыл бұрын
The fact it isn't addressed...is exactly the issue? What? What the fuck are you on about? It only becomes an issue for the story if the show itself...decides to criticize itself...for a creative decision? What.........? Also, it's kind of silly to just say "Skin color is not addressed" when a large part of the whole start of the Dance of Dragons is fuckin' built on the fact that Rhaenyra's children are bastards, and thus illegitimate heirs. Just because a character doesn't walk up to the camera and say "durr the velaryons sure are black, that contradicts the book series" doesn't mean it isn't "addressed" in more nebulous ways.
@havec6866
@havec6866 Жыл бұрын
@@Frawt first of all, stop being mad. All I meant was if it's not in the books let's not make a dumb plot line about it. making the velaryons look black instead of having purple eyes is cool, but if you go so far and arrange a set of events based on your creative choice then you willl deviate alot from the books(like game of thrones and the night king). Besides laenor was only half black and his wife is white as snow so it's totally possible for them to have white kids. What is not possible is for all of them to have black hair, which is why aliscent was checking the baby's hair color in ep 6. If this was a disney show then daemon would have arrested them because he is racist
@RyLHatch1989
@RyLHatch1989 Жыл бұрын
The Song of Ice and Fire is the whole point. Rhaenyra is the only one who knows the truth behind it, because Viserys only shared it with her as it was shared with him by his grandfather, and because she's the only one who truly grasps what is really at stake for Westeros. Which is why it is imperative for her to win because her reasoning is more than just being the reigning monarch like Aegon, Alicent, and Otto want.
@havec6866
@havec6866 Жыл бұрын
@@RyLHatch1989 that's cool and all but the story is not about that, it is about the clashing family. You can use the night king as the catalyst but don't abuse it or the audience will focus more on that plot line and I believe that specific plot doesn't end well.
@RyLHatch1989
@RyLHatch1989 Жыл бұрын
@@havec6866 The point is that Rhaenyra has a motivation beyond the superficiality of Aegon and the Hightowers, and because this is her reasoning and goal, we'll probably hear about it again and again.
@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121
@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121 Жыл бұрын
I actually love how they're treating the book as an incomplete interpretation of the events and the show is telling us what actually went down. Some of the book readers got DAMN annoying during Game Of Thrones. This kinda makes up for it.
@SixShooterMM
@SixShooterMM Жыл бұрын
The show has nothing to do with the books and I don't get why people are trying to argue that it's telling the true version of the book history as well. What we see in the show is the truth for the show universe, it doesn't change anything that was written in Fire & Blood.
@emperorRRI
@emperorRRI Жыл бұрын
Ya'll are so mid with this "the show teels the true story" bulls!t
@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121
@wynonasbigbrowndragon6121 Жыл бұрын
Yup, I will reiterate. It makes up for it. In spades 😂
@sirfriendzone1228
@sirfriendzone1228 Жыл бұрын
@@SixShooterMM Because it's literally what GRRM said when describing the difference between the show and the books. You'd think he of all people would know... 🤷
@SixShooterMM
@SixShooterMM Жыл бұрын
@@sirfriendzone1228 GRRM has never said that the show is telling the true story from the book. He’s been very clear that there’s a show canon and a book canon now. Which is very obvious to anyone with a brain. Everything that happens in the show is true for that universe, but it has no connection at all to the book universe. In the show Rhaenys destroyed Aegons coronation and Laenor faked his death, in the books those didn’t happen, I don’t understand why people have a problem with that.
@sauronindian6169
@sauronindian6169 Жыл бұрын
he is vampire who never ages
@vindix9137
@vindix9137 Жыл бұрын
Calling them “racist” is kinda embarrassing. There have always been darker skinned people. But these houses have been “cloud skinned and white of hair” y’all gotta know that off.
@JamieZero7
@JamieZero7 Жыл бұрын
Man, this is such a love letter to Elric of Melniboné and Micheal Moorcock's eternal champion. At least George is friends with Moorcock so it's not just plagiarism like the rest of fantasy that steals from his work. The dragons the silver hair. Sorta albinoism. The way Valyria was decadent ways exactly like the people of Melniboné. Dreams. The winter clearly is similar to chaos in Elric which entropy. People need to read/listen to the audiobook of Elric if you like GOT and HOD. The Witcher stole ideas from it. So did warhammer 40k. But essentially modern fantasy is Micheal Moorcock's work and you see it a lot. If you want to understand the world of Game of Thrones you need to understand Elric of Melniboné. So much is related to it you can see loads of references.
@ytrewq12345
@ytrewq12345 Жыл бұрын
The R+L=J doesn't make any sense since Jon's name is Aegon. Now if you're going to say but, I will tell you, Meera's and Jorjens's father, Lord Reed was a close friend of the Starks, so, he would know that Jon's name is actually Aegon, because leaving the tower without Lyanna but with Jon, he would trust the men to not tell Robert Baratheon, or he would kill him to protect and keep a promise to his sister. So, no sense in this theory. If he's name is actually Aegon, then.... R±L=J is not Jon, and kind of make sense since Martin doesn't go towards the obvious. Can we stop now? The song of ice and fire could be Jon, only if his name is Aegon, if is not, we are missing a lot here, if it is, the R+L=J is not Jon.
@emperorRRI
@emperorRRI Жыл бұрын
Sience ya'll are afraid to say it , I will "House Velaryon"
@ozmega
@ozmega Жыл бұрын
i love how they say "we loved" as a way to put their opinion but making it seem like everyone agrees with them lol
@AssassinKID
@AssassinKID Жыл бұрын
I understand 'we' mean the WatchMojo team. Like they say 'before we unveil the top pick', meaning the team, not everyone. Viewers need to distinguish between the context of 'we' doesn't alwaysean 'everyone' or 'majority of HotD viewers'. Would you prefer they say 'our team' or 'the WatchMojo team' instead of 'we' for how many times they need to say it? There are some parts they say 'others' disagree to mean even inside the team there are devisive opinions.
@JacobyoftheWest
@JacobyoftheWest 4 ай бұрын
We’re missing a whole character how’s no one talking about this
@bangeryun94
@bangeryun94 5 ай бұрын
Drawings from the book shows Corlys Valaryen with long white hair and strong features. In the book no one whispers about Jace, Luke, and Joffrey's parentage because the children look Valaryen. It should have stayed that way. It isn't being racist it's just that fans don't want another Season 8 from producers who totally ignored everything written.
@maelguiraud3568
@maelguiraud3568 Ай бұрын
lies they have brown hair in the books
@bangeryun94
@bangeryun94 Ай бұрын
​@@maelguiraud3568hey my babes, are you sure this is the hill you want to die on?
@manoftheusajones5147
@manoftheusajones5147 Жыл бұрын
TOP 10 Differences Vetween Books and Movies
@MadaughtaUcheetah
@MadaughtaUcheetah Жыл бұрын
There’s no show better then house of dragon in the last three years.
@anti5356
@anti5356 Жыл бұрын
First season was great, can't speak for the rest of the show yet. I just hope it ends well unlike you know what...
@jakemilano8868
@jakemilano8868 Жыл бұрын
Succession
@MadaughtaUcheetah
@MadaughtaUcheetah Жыл бұрын
@@anti5356 ☹️🙁😔😞😢😭
@nickng645
@nickng645 Жыл бұрын
You clearly haven't seen Severance
@MadaughtaUcheetah
@MadaughtaUcheetah Жыл бұрын
@@nickng645 where can I watch it on?
@BUckENbooz
@BUckENbooz Жыл бұрын
Color of skin of course HAD to be mentioned lollll. I don't care its just funny. I genuinely never really thought of it until it was mentioned in the video. Yes, they are black. OK lol. Thanks for reminding us.
@edupcsh1885
@edupcsh1885 Жыл бұрын
Viserys Health????
@phil4208
@phil4208 Жыл бұрын
My only complaint about hotd was the story was slow moving at times , hopefully this character building is a portent to upcoming seasons, my guess 2024 , damn
@grouchyowl5361
@grouchyowl5361 Жыл бұрын
Velaryon's appearance 🤮
@AliGul-nf9xz
@AliGul-nf9xz Жыл бұрын
People need to be reminded of one thing, your sense of diversity isn't needed in fiction and tv. Curb your emotions and don't ruin the art. Entire masses supporting Rhaenyra have forgotten the fact that she is indeed mother of 3 bastard children die to HBO making Velaryons black had this not been the case the plot could have moved in another direction as well apart from cliche accusations and blame of adultery and bearing illegitimate children.
@MrHelicx
@MrHelicx Жыл бұрын
How don't we know the show are real events and the book is false..... history is written by the victor 🤯
@mikeawesome9212
@mikeawesome9212 Жыл бұрын
Raynearuh dies at the end of the first season. Shes the Ned Stark.
@Yharnam1066
@Yharnam1066 Жыл бұрын
Not even gonna mention that Strong feet fetish.
@Pyke_
@Pyke_ Жыл бұрын
Alicent seem to be a bad person in the book, but in the show they kinda made her likeable. The same for Aemond, in the book that dude is a douchebag but in the show he is so badass
@manthe3711
@manthe3711 Жыл бұрын
In the show he's badass, but he's also still a douchebag.
@jimsty7550
@jimsty7550 Жыл бұрын
Aemond is pretty badass in the books too, albeit more sinister. And in the books, Alicent is said to have still retained her beauty and figure, even after having four children.
@alomm9789
@alomm9789 Жыл бұрын
Other change- they made Rhaenyra's character more sympathetic and Alicent's more kind of bitch....
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
I liked Rhaenyra until Reign of Terror
@stephenjenkins7971
@stephenjenkins7971 Жыл бұрын
Rhaenyra was far more obviously a Maegor in the making in the books, and Alicent just sorta existed until she ruthlessly stole power in the books.
@Vyxsin69
@Vyxsin69 Жыл бұрын
Good lord, is that to music that's always in the background? If so, I never noticed just how incredibly annoying and distracting it is. I kept thinking someone outside was being obnoxious. I put the video on pause to listen and didn't hear it anymore. I pressed play.. its coming from the video smh. Horrible music choice. Turned the video off after 4mins.
@docvader82
@docvader82 Жыл бұрын
I think it's fantastic that they altered the Valeryans. Yes, it gives some welcome diversity. But also the actors are all fantastic, and to me they really stand out as royalty.
@Harahvaiti
@Harahvaiti Жыл бұрын
Martin's world is very diverse. Only Westeros is not because it's more or less based on medieval Northern Europe, predominately England, with exception being only Dorne which is modeled upon Moorish Spain. There were other ways to have diversity in HOTD when there is none in _Fire and Blood_ Having Velaryons black or of mixed race and Rhaenyra's kids purely white simplifies the "Strong bastards" story to such level where only imbeciles can act as if nothing is wrong with parentage of the three boys, imbeciles or power grabbing opportunists as Corlys who was very well aware of those not being his grandsons. It's as if in GOT Cersei's three kids had Dornish darker skin tone and Lannister hair and she stil managed to sell them as Robert Baratheon's kids.
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
Why not create original characters for diversity?
@sydney33thomas
@sydney33thomas Жыл бұрын
They completely underutilized Laena's character. In the book, Laena is very close to Rhaenyra, and Daemon is truly in love with her. The three spend a lot of time together, they liked to travel on the backs of dragons. And I prefer Laena's death in the book. It's more sad and bittersweet, and Rhaenyra is at her bedside when she dying!
@zachhenry8537
@zachhenry8537 Жыл бұрын
Making the Velayrons black was a great move. It makes the bastard subplot much better.
@gevorg1989
@gevorg1989 Жыл бұрын
Does it? Making smth obvious instead of guessing
@GeorgeEugeneBarrett
@GeorgeEugeneBarrett Жыл бұрын
You’re a woke cuck.
@giorgossermes9644
@giorgossermes9644 Жыл бұрын
the book is magnificent though xD
@seanseams6308
@seanseams6308 6 ай бұрын
Pretty sure all c sections were “botched” in this time period
@jorgeadairramos7469
@jorgeadairramos7469 Жыл бұрын
I'm posible que no
@stylezzir7761
@stylezzir7761 Жыл бұрын
Think number 2 was the only one I really disliked. Yea it was cool. But not really needed.
@englandcalling9721
@englandcalling9721 Жыл бұрын
These differences are making me think, all of this is made up. Well, at least dragons are real.
@Tokiomy
@Tokiomy Жыл бұрын
WatchMojo milking the shit out of HOTD Do you not have any new ideas?
@caseygalaxy5181
@caseygalaxy5181 Жыл бұрын
how am i the only 1 asking when is WINTER in this show. i mean its been summer since Rhenerya's mom died now the civil war is about to start. like do the Stark house words mean nothing. this is a place where its a few years summer and a few years winter. am i the only 1 that thinks that this is a plot hole. Is winter only coming just before Got starts. this is affecting me. how am i the only 1 that noticed this. So many timeskips and not 1 WINTER
@alexlefay
@alexlefay Жыл бұрын
Season last years, sometimes decades in the books and shows. The long night lasted a generation. In GoT they even mention how lucky they were because the summer lasted so long and now they had to prepare for winter... and no one can know how long it'll last. It's a show with dragons. Dont overthink it.
@kalelnaseer
@kalelnaseer Жыл бұрын
How many times has Hollywood given character who were black a MUCH lighter skin tone to say the least: Hannibal, Cleopatra, All of the Egyptians in general, Adam & Eve, Jesus, etc…. Please get over creative decisions that are just artistic in choice as opposed to deliberately dishonest depictions with ill intentions
@Harahvaiti
@Harahvaiti Жыл бұрын
Cleopatra was of Macedonian Greek descent, coming from notoriously incestuous dynasty whose founder was one of Alexander the Great generals and close friends. She was white. Adam and Eve are not historical people to begin with... as for Jesus... well explain this - Islamic texts describe their prophet Mohammad being of pale skin, some even claim him having red hair. Now, how a person from Mecca, hundreds of miles into Arabian desert can be paler than a person from Nazareth in Galilee? Whitewashing of characters that was done often in past decades and is still done now is just as wrong as blackwashing that is almost obligatory in movies and TV shows today. House of the Dragon same as Rings of Power did it for no other reason but virtue signaling.
@kalelnaseer
@kalelnaseer Жыл бұрын
@@Harahvaiti Everything you said is negated by the fact that blacks were native to every area you named. The European was the last man to come into existence by way of a birth control process set in place by a man named Yakub. In biblical text he’s referred to as Jacob. Yakub was given divine revelation that inside the black man was a dominant gene & a recessive gene. The dominant gene is what produced the darker skin, kinkier, thicker hair, thicker, fuller lips, dark eyes, etc., the recessive is breaking down of these traits. They my be prettier, aesthetically speaking, but they’re weaker; lighter skin, minus melanin, easy to burn in the natural rays of the sun, thinner, string like hair, thin lips, etc. If you’ll notice, unless they’re mixed, (which we all are at this point) when you observe from Black to Brown to Yellow to Red to White, you can literally see the difference physical traits & the varying degrees of dominant & recessive genetics. Anywho, be it Macedonia, Phoenician, Carthaginian, Mongolian, Mesopotamia, Mecca or Medina, Arabia to all the other lands of Africa, black ppl were native to all of these lands, we were there before the conquerors that erased history to give you the false versions it’s so natural for you to believe because it’s all you’ve ever been taught, it’s all you know so you can’t even imagine anything different being true, yet it is. Loss to time due to centuries of lies & usurping but hey, as they say “history gets told by the victors”. Almost everyone of historical significance was either interracial or black. Prophet Muhammad was absolutely white, true, but that was centuries after the man you call Jesus. That man was Black as was most of the ppl in the Palestine region at that time. I don’t debate these things much simply because ppl are by in large simpletons & are going to believe what they’re accustomed to & comfortable with believing, as I’m sure you will, so… Believe as you will. BUT, there’s a book written by a WHITE physical geneticist named Paul Lawrence Gunthrie called “The making of the white man”. He originally sought to disprove the “Yakub Theory” & found within his studies more evidence proving it’s validity & wrote on it. Have at if you will. History, just like most inventions, sports & music today has been usurped by those who buy it out & take credit for its creation.
@Harahvaiti
@Harahvaiti Жыл бұрын
@@kalelnaseer get some professional help...
@carlosmiguelaltamonte4201
@carlosmiguelaltamonte4201 Жыл бұрын
Hi
@marcjameswhelan6231
@marcjameswhelan6231 Жыл бұрын
Bye
@MzCheecharella
@MzCheecharella 10 ай бұрын
FFS, it's pronounced Laena (Layna)... not Lena (Leena)
@giovannidykes6158
@giovannidykes6158 Жыл бұрын
Number 1: daemon is hideous
@lillielavelle9738
@lillielavelle9738 9 ай бұрын
Yeah, Matt Smith is not an attractive man. He comes from my home town and you could walk outside and within 5 minutes find a better looking bloke.
@abidmohammad5953
@abidmohammad5953 8 ай бұрын
​@@lillielavelle9738I agree great actor but should have got more attractive guy
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