Top 10 JRPGs RUINED by Other JRPGs

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These 10 JRPGs were released on the wrong date. Other major JRPGs were released around the same time too and they practically ruined what little chance they had to succeed.
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@Maplewest
@Maplewest 2 жыл бұрын
"Thank you, Konami. Go to hell." Had me rolling. 😂
@ltb1345
@ltb1345 2 жыл бұрын
Same.
@Harkz0r
@Harkz0r 2 жыл бұрын
Had me clapping tbh! Suikoden V was the first game I played in the series and I adored it. I still consider Lymsleia one of my favourite child characters in RPGs. And Lyon messed me up at the end because I didn't know about the whole Stars of Destiny thing. Cannot believe that a company with so many great IPs under their belt turned to so much shit.
@carlosrueda9204
@carlosrueda9204 2 жыл бұрын
As a kid I begged my mom for xenogears.... for that FF8 demo. After playing the demo over and over I eventually played xenogears and its in my top 3 jrpgs of all time
@dangelojohnson1744
@dangelojohnson1744 2 жыл бұрын
Im guessing from this statement your at least 30? I remember asking my mom for the same thing plus chrono cross
@Danielzilla
@Danielzilla 2 жыл бұрын
Xenogears didn’t come with an FF8 demo in any region.
@carlosrueda9204
@carlosrueda9204 2 жыл бұрын
@@Danielzilla Holy crap you're right. My memory is bugging. The demo was in another game. I could have sworn it was in xenogears but I'm wrong. That's what it was! I got parasite eve for the demo disc. Loved parasite eve. And after playing ff8 I saw xenogears on it and that got me interested in the game. Forgive me, it was over 20 years ago
@carlosrueda9204
@carlosrueda9204 2 жыл бұрын
@@dangelojohnson1744 36. But I'm partially wrong. The game with the demos was parasite eve. That demo disc also had xenogears. FF7 and FF8 just got me into jrpgs so I wanted more. The internet was barely a thing so that xeno demo caught my eye
@carlosrueda9204
@carlosrueda9204 2 жыл бұрын
@@dangelojohnson1744 chrono cross... parasite eve.... FF7... FF8.... xenogears. God I miss peak golden age square. This is why psx is my favorite generation. That and metal gear solid.
@eroseninjiraiya9602
@eroseninjiraiya9602 2 жыл бұрын
Tokyo Xanadu is a fantastic Falcom jrpg, a must play in the genre.
@teamlds5235
@teamlds5235 2 жыл бұрын
Agreed it is one of my favorite games
@scottmichaelhedge5055
@scottmichaelhedge5055 2 жыл бұрын
I love Falcom, but I got really bored with Tokyo Xanadu after a while.
@eroseninjiraiya9602
@eroseninjiraiya9602 2 жыл бұрын
@@scottmichaelhedge5055 yeah it can happen, to each his own.
@withoutthejuice7193
@withoutthejuice7193 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had my eye on it for a bit, would you suggest it to someone who loves Ys?
@Speznas96
@Speznas96 2 жыл бұрын
@@withoutthejuice7193 for sure, it has similarities in gameplay. I started with Ys too and bought Tokyo Xanadu when it was on sale and I'm so glad I did so. It was a really good game imo, which gameplay/ story peaked in the mid of the game until the end. It can feel very slow in the beginning but believe me, the end makes up for it for sure. Oh and the music is also extremely good.
@WhiteFangofWar
@WhiteFangofWar 2 жыл бұрын
Feels like a lot of companies have reason to hold grudges against Squaresoft. At the same time, they owe them big for making FFVII and creating the watershed era for JRPGs where everyone was interested in them again.
@Sinisterlocked
@Sinisterlocked 2 жыл бұрын
Other developers: FINALLY the localisation is DONE time for releas- Square: haha ff games goes brrrrrrrrrr
@nesoukkefka1741
@nesoukkefka1741 2 жыл бұрын
Or HAHA Kingdom Hearts go brrrrrrrr And honnestly let's not talk about the poor JRPG which were release in Japan at the same time as a Dragon Quest games XD
@mistral9950
@mistral9950 2 жыл бұрын
@@nesoukkefka1741 RIP
@ericriley1985
@ericriley1985 2 жыл бұрын
And if Square is taking a hiatus or something its usually Nintendo going, "Hey there, made myself another first-party RPG."
@SuperOtakuKyo
@SuperOtakuKyo 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt even if Xenoblade Chronicles 2 hadn't released around that time that Tokyo Xanadu eX+ would've done much better. Falcom is still pretty niche especially around that time. Aksys did luck out with Falcom making the eX+ version though.
@DKarkarov
@DKarkarov 2 жыл бұрын
Truth be getting spoken here.
@alexc4820
@alexc4820 2 жыл бұрын
Shadow hearts 1 & 2 were such great games, some of the best jrpg I’ve played, too bad they launched at the wrong moment.
@trisertricordoh2127
@trisertricordoh2127 2 жыл бұрын
That they are. Dark themed games like them are rare. I didn't know they were released next to other titles.
@DKarkarov
@DKarkarov 2 жыл бұрын
I doubt it has anything to do with release schedule. The reviews of 1 were rough, reviews on 2 were hit or miss, most people don't even know they are sequels to Kouldelka, and they were barely advertised if at all. RPG's back then got little to no love in general, even Final Fantasy was considered small and niche until 7. It is hard to describe it to people who didn't grow up with it, but until FF7 it was not cool to play RPG's, like you were weird even to other people who played video games.
@Melodyofthesea78
@Melodyofthesea78 2 жыл бұрын
@@DKarkarov I never had problems with other gamers thinking I was weird for playing them back then....probably because I played other games besides JRPG's.
@worax
@worax 2 жыл бұрын
The 3rd one is crazy fun too. I love the series.
@PissedGrunty
@PissedGrunty 2 жыл бұрын
I love the Shadow Hearts series, but the game play and graphics for the first one were ROUGH. Its story is what it had going for it. If anything, the first one was somewhat lacking in the trademark goofyness of the other two. I only went back to play SH1 after SH2.
@nerone1984
@nerone1984 2 жыл бұрын
Jesus Skies of Arcadia the same day of ff9, that's Just Crazy as fuck.
@nr2676
@nr2676 2 жыл бұрын
Why SEGA release jrpg's with the same time of Square Enix games ? And most important WITH x50 LESS BUDGET FOR GAME AND NO MARKETING IN WEST !!! Examples: - Skies of Arcadia (SEGA) / FF IX (Square Enix) = SEGA GAME flop, IP dead - Valkyria Chronicles 4 (SEGA) / Dragon Quest XI (Square Enix) = SEGA GAME flop, IP dead (?) - Shin Sakura Wars (SEGA) / FF VII Remake and Trials of Mana (both Square Enix) = SEGA GAME flop, IP dead (?) Its like SEGA want kill franchises other than Yakuza and Sonic intentionaly.
@Melodyofthesea78
@Melodyofthesea78 2 жыл бұрын
@@nr2676 To be fair Skied of Arcadia was awesome just released at the absolutely wrong time.
@nr2676
@nr2676 2 жыл бұрын
​@@Melodyofthesea78 Yeah, but VC and SW are also very good, those games also suffered in bad release date. Also Skies of Arcadia was released on dead platform - Dreamcast, and Gamecube release date as u mentioned was very bad. Fun fact: all those games series i mentioned are from the same devs - Overworks. They worked on Sakura Wars 3 and 4, Skies of Arcadia and Valkyria Chronicles. This dudes are seriously so underrated.
@shutup1037
@shutup1037 2 жыл бұрын
@@nr2676 sounds like SEGA believe that they can compete with square kek
@nr2676
@nr2676 2 жыл бұрын
@@shutup1037 Yes without 100 000 000 $ production budget and no markateing, its fucking impossible to compete Square in this moment. Why they trying compete SE with new IP's in West with absolute no money behind ? Maybe they still have complex: ,,SEGA must win with Nintendo from 90 years'', now they have new complex ,,SEGA must win with Square Enix''.
@Patrick-bn5rp
@Patrick-bn5rp 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, Eric! Are you keeping up to date with the Destiny DC fan translation as well as the Tales of Abyss HD project?
@lennethomega6731
@lennethomega6731 2 жыл бұрын
Among all the Suikoden franchise, Suikoden 2 imo has the deepest story, something about its depth that cannot be made anymore, and few rpg or games can do this. I love the other entries at the same level but this game touches the heart differently, besides, characters like Flick and Viktor are hard to find nowdays.
@Gooong
@Gooong 2 жыл бұрын
I agree while claiming suikoden 2 to be overrated and Suikoden 5 doesn't the attention it deserves since I can only experience it in my memories since my PS2 doesn't work anymore.
@diaochan7506
@diaochan7506 2 жыл бұрын
@@Gooong my ps2 is damaged too.. but I still can play suikoden 5 in my laptop.
@hiro6164
@hiro6164 2 жыл бұрын
Final fantasy: exists. Other rpgs: why must i suffer like this!!.
@brycekillor318parker6
@brycekillor318parker6 2 жыл бұрын
Interestingly, Square was saying the same because of Enix's Dragon Quest Series, until Final Fantasy 7.
@hiro6164
@hiro6164 2 жыл бұрын
@@brycekillor318parker6 waat, didnt know.
@Harkz0r
@Harkz0r 2 жыл бұрын
@@hiro6164 Dragon Quest is basically Japan's FFVII: the game that introduced the concept of the RPG to the masses. In many ways the progenitor of the genre. It's so absurdly popular there that Enix negotiated with Nintendo to ship new releases on Saturday in Japan specifically because so many people would skip school/work to play it (as opposed to the industry standard which was Thursday).
@jg2096
@jg2096 2 жыл бұрын
Skies of Arcadia is still one of my favorite games. I've gotten 100% on that game twice. The story is really fun and the characters are awesome and the lore is good.
@zepheric3188
@zepheric3188 2 жыл бұрын
Whenever I see a Giant Laser Cannon I still say "Moonstone Cannon FIRE!"
@worax
@worax 2 жыл бұрын
@@zepheric3188 same here but i have a knack for "harpoon cannon fire !" instead, the fight vs grendel is printed in my mind
@chisaten
@chisaten Жыл бұрын
I loved Skies of Arcadia on the GameCube so much that I wrote my own guides, completed it multiple times, and feel nothing has come close to imitating it. I love the unique ship combat.
@ShadowWolfRising
@ShadowWolfRising 2 жыл бұрын
'Onimush Tactics' "You probably never heard of this." 'Laughs' I own and beat it, it's pretty damn good. Even Recruited the optional party member. Also it seems the recurring theme is "Don't release your game next to big IPs, you dumbass.".
@DKarkarov
@DKarkarov 2 жыл бұрын
It is more like don't release your game on a tanking system, with literally no fanfare or advertisements of any kind.
@ShadowWolfRising
@ShadowWolfRising 2 жыл бұрын
@@DKarkarov That also doesn't help.
@tyrecarmon20
@tyrecarmon20 2 жыл бұрын
Damn skies of acadia was a classic
@Koyasama
@Koyasama 2 жыл бұрын
It wasn't just Langrisser and Sakura Wars that got hammered by the P5R/FF7R combo. The 3D remake of Trials of Mana (Seiken Densetsu 3) came out on 4/24/20--just 2 weeks after FF7R--and the long-awaited port of the original Utawarerumono came out a month later, on 5/26/20. Spring 2020 was a strange season for JRPGs, to say the least.
@medunno645
@medunno645 2 жыл бұрын
Dunno how much hate gonna get for this but yeah had to get trials of mana above ff7r. It just came across as a real good remake/remaster where as the FF title just felt wrong to me
@Toremneon
@Toremneon 2 жыл бұрын
What can you see, actually now would be the best time to revive Suikoden for Konami. Now really many people know about the series! Konami could show that they still care for gaming fans and JRPGs are still a good genre going strong. Suikoden is like in every top jrpg list I ever saw. It would marketing itself actually. Also Eyuden Chronicles showed people still care ... a lot.
@guipifon
@guipifon 2 жыл бұрын
And Capcom with Breath of Fire, and Sony with Wild Arms, Grandia, Alundra and SE with Xenogears, and Chronos games...
@bayumahendra1797
@bayumahendra1797 2 жыл бұрын
The problem with suikoden is the OG team who worked on it already disbanded but konami still hold the ip and im not sure konami still care with gaming industry
@own2live
@own2live 2 жыл бұрын
Let's keep praying for Eiyuden Chronicle to be good
@StarAllKungfu
@StarAllKungfu 2 жыл бұрын
Konami makes most of it's bank with Pachinko and VLT gambling machines I'm pretty sure. The whole gaming section is kind of left behind.
@diaochan7506
@diaochan7506 2 жыл бұрын
I still hoping there will be Suikoden 6. There are many stories and mysteries not answered and tell.
@smudge666uk
@smudge666uk 2 жыл бұрын
Man the shadow hearts series is one of my favourites, I remember picking up the first one from a local game store in the uk on the recommendation of one of the employees as he knew I liked the final fantasy series, it's great to see it mentioned here!
@bongochongopongo
@bongochongopongo 2 жыл бұрын
Hey mate, would you mind listing the games in the comments or in the video description? I often listen to your videos while working, space out for a bit and miss the name of the game you are talking about and often cannot rewind right away. Having a written would be useful for these scenarios
@Gogito4
@Gogito4 2 жыл бұрын
Man March to April 2020 was such a good time for JRPGs. Even though some got screwed about it, between Langrisser, VII;RE; P5 and the Trials of Mana remake it was a really good way to take my mind out of COVID.
@scourgehh714
@scourgehh714 2 жыл бұрын
Eyyyy, love seeing Asuka get the thumbnail! Love to see it! Also yeah, poor game, had such a chance to be big, but nothing can compete with Xenoblade. Lol. Let's hope one day TX gets a sequel and another chance at life.
@jahboidb
@jahboidb 2 жыл бұрын
Tokyo xanadu 2 would be a blessing from falcom
@scourgehh714
@scourgehh714 2 жыл бұрын
@@jahboidb It would, would love that so much
@disalazarg
@disalazarg 2 жыл бұрын
I loved Suikoden V, the characters were something really special for me. If they make a Switch re-release of it, even without many improvements, Id still pick it up and play the hell out of it. I also loved Tokyo Xanadu, but it was in fact the game that made me realize I was a Falcom fanboy, so little wonder.
@markboniol3952
@markboniol3952 2 жыл бұрын
I think I read somewhere that part of what stands in the way of a Suikoden V digital release has something to do with voice over contracts. I wish it would come though. I had to sell my game collection, due to homelessness, and getting a copy now costs so freaking much. I have also had terrible luck trying to emulate it.
@StarAllKungfu
@StarAllKungfu 2 жыл бұрын
The graphics for Suikoden V were about the best cel graphics for the time as well. It blew most of the competition out of the water. Looked way better then Star Ocean sprites.
@menhirmike
@menhirmike 2 жыл бұрын
7:50 Curious, was Fire Emblem a big hit back then? The series was pretty unknown, but I know that Smash Bros Melee brought in a lot of curiosity/excitement because of Roy and Math is SSBM. I wasn't paying attention back then, so no idea if Fire Emblem 7 made a splash on the GBA.
@rai357
@rai357 2 жыл бұрын
From my understanding, The Blazing Blade did very well both in Japan and in the west which is the main reason why they pushed forward with the Path of Radiance series on the Gamecube. Sadly, they didn't get the success they wanted with those titles and after a few more misses, were in danger of Nintendo pulling the plug on the series until Awakening released and basically saved the franchise.
@Fermin-hw5pd
@Fermin-hw5pd 2 жыл бұрын
FE wasn't known because it wasn't released outside Japan before BB
@TheAleatoriorandom
@TheAleatoriorandom 2 жыл бұрын
Some of these really need some loving and our man Erick is here to deliver! Good stuff! Man I hope some of the other Langrisser games get a remake like 1 and 2. Just please, please pleeeeeease give us some quality of live improvement. There´s 0 reason to slowly hover over every enemy that won´t even move yet when some modern games like FE let you skip whole enemy fases with by pressing one button.
@SuiteLifeofDioBrando
@SuiteLifeofDioBrando 2 жыл бұрын
Kuro no Kiseki got wrecked by Tales of Arise in Japan sadly.
@mikethepokemaster2012
@mikethepokemaster2012 2 жыл бұрын
Tales of Arise dope gotta finish that playing shadowverse champion battle
@Ya_Mosura
@Ya_Mosura 2 жыл бұрын
Getting it on Thursday, just finished up Xillia 1 to make room for it.
@davidtimmer596
@davidtimmer596 2 жыл бұрын
Well, Falcom's not as big as Bandai Namco unfortunately. They feel like the underdog at this point.
@kawaiipotatoes7888
@kawaiipotatoes7888 2 жыл бұрын
They might go back to waifu simulator cause it sells...
@ericriley1985
@ericriley1985 2 жыл бұрын
All throughout this video I could picture Square and Nintendo as kings seated on their thrones with Atlus at their right hand as archduke, and all of the other JRPGs from the other companies rising to challenge them for the throne only to be completely, utterly, and mercilessly crushed.
@nr2676
@nr2676 2 жыл бұрын
No marketing + bad release date + new IP (in West) + low budget game = bad sales
@chickenfillets
@chickenfillets 2 жыл бұрын
Tokyo Xanadu I bought day one for Vita and never regretted. Nowadays any Falcom game that gets released now I will buy day one to make sure to support Falcom
@everettwatsonrazorearcwolf6553
@everettwatsonrazorearcwolf6553 2 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, these are some cursed releases.
@guillermocas2877
@guillermocas2877 2 жыл бұрын
Unique title.
@TheRecallBerserk
@TheRecallBerserk 2 жыл бұрын
Ruined seems like the wrong word when it’s mostly about poorly timed western releases
@nightwolf235
@nightwolf235 2 жыл бұрын
Loved shadow hearts. I played 2 first then was lucky enough to find 1 and able to play through it. Wished the series could come back it was great.
@faidou9954
@faidou9954 2 жыл бұрын
Man, the 90s to 2000s must've been hell for JRPGs not made by Square Enix.
@gozucritic4546
@gozucritic4546 2 жыл бұрын
Shadow Hearts is such an amazing game series plus Shaodw Hearts 3 is such a silly game but cool with its weird mechanics
@FreeRPGer
@FreeRPGer 2 жыл бұрын
That's one thing I *CANNOT* stand in the last 5 years or so -- at times 3 or 4 games release on the same day as a AAA title. I do not remember that happening as often back in the Electronics Boutique days (pre-Gamestop). Now there'll be 2 or 3 lesser known titles released on the very day as a AAA title, then one wonders why the lesser known ones didn't sell well. Hello! Game Republic would still be around with a Folklore sequel if it wasn't for Sony knowing that it was the PS3's fault the 1st Folklore didn't sell.
@kingty2550
@kingty2550 2 жыл бұрын
Had and played all of these when they first dropped. Me and my cousin was heavily into rpgs and Suikoden II is in my top 5 easily. For a long time the Luca Blight boss fight gave me nightmares lol. He was evil af and was a real monster. Taking on 3 six man parties and a duel with Riou. All while being peppered with arrows. The dude literally set himself on fire for his attacks. Everyone thought used a fire rune lol. Great video bro.
@mathexxx2213
@mathexxx2213 2 жыл бұрын
Shadow Hearts ❤️
@maskedbadass6802
@maskedbadass6802 2 жыл бұрын
7:12 Aw man, such a nostalgia bomb to see the gang from Onimusha 2 on the cover. I was so sad when the next Onimusha game came out because even though they brought back Samanosuke the series just abandoned Ekei, Magoichi, Kotaro, and Oyu.
@InkWavve
@InkWavve 2 жыл бұрын
If they make a brushed up TX Definitive Edition and release it on Switch it would actually be so good.
@vagabundorkchaosmagick-use2898
@vagabundorkchaosmagick-use2898 2 жыл бұрын
Hey, you should make this a series, it was great fun and anger, haha.
@1MadDogg
@1MadDogg 2 жыл бұрын
I'm surprised that tales of the abyss' PS2 NA release did not make the list. It was in all of bandai-namco's infinite wisdom set to october 10th, 2006 for it's release date, meaning it was sandwiched between two at the time hyped square-enix releases...valkyrie profile 2 on september 26th 2006 and more importantly final fantasy goddamn 12 on october 31st 2006. Another niche game that could have split attention from the crowd that normally buys these types of games was phantasy star universe, which released on october 24th, 2006. Despite being a damn good game, abyss' sales got dumped on so hard that the PS2 version never saw a release in EU. (Which means they had to wait for the 3DS release to even play it). Tales of abyss definitely deserved better, =(
@MoMohsenArt
@MoMohsenArt 2 жыл бұрын
Tales of Destiney Director's Cut on PS2 has an excellent fan translation by the way, I would recommend it to anyone who wants to play that game.
@sharebear421
@sharebear421 2 жыл бұрын
If only I could figure out how to get a working ps2 emulator on my computer
@Fermin-hw5pd
@Fermin-hw5pd 2 жыл бұрын
@@sharebear421 Pcsx2, what gives you trouble?
@sharebear421
@sharebear421 2 жыл бұрын
@@Fermin-hw5pd it’s a lot more complicated than getting something like a gba or snes emulator going idk. Just too high tech for my dumbass
@takehirolol5962
@takehirolol5962 2 жыл бұрын
I'll wait until it's 100% translated.
@deusvlad2.083
@deusvlad2.083 2 жыл бұрын
Fun fact Tales of Destiny on the ps1 is actually capable of 2 player and also a special ring that allows you to perform all the special attacks without going in options to change them arouind with street fighter like moves during the battle.
@BanksySCII
@BanksySCII 2 жыл бұрын
smt 3 aka nocturne was the first smt main line game to be released in the Us it wasn't really on the radar for the US audience at the time. Unfortnate it got over shadowed by other titles due to release dates.
@Fuzzlekinz
@Fuzzlekinz 2 жыл бұрын
I keep wishing for Skies of Arcadia to get a digital rerelease, it was one of my childhood favourites. I'd love to play it again.
@officerbucktuddrussel394
@officerbucktuddrussel394 2 жыл бұрын
I got the Langrisser 1&2 remaster but haven't played much because moving each unit individually is a chore when there's no way to just cycle through the units like in fire emblem.
@redstratus97
@redstratus97 2 жыл бұрын
Just goes to show how much of a juggernaut the FF games were during the PS1 era. When it came to sales they were easily the kings back then. No one could touch them.
@alexalexander1772
@alexalexander1772 2 жыл бұрын
I’m still waiting for at Arcadia to catch on and have games all along the time line.
@ebesonen
@ebesonen 2 жыл бұрын
I personally own Onimushia tactics, Shadow Hearts : Covent and Tokyo Xanadu, it's a bit sad to hear that they lost to other games in the past, I'm just glad I have these games now and there really fun to play ✌️
@WhatAboutZoidberg
@WhatAboutZoidberg 2 жыл бұрын
As an owner of half of these games, Im glad I delved into the weirder & more obscure games before they got expensive. Now I mostly just play on my Vita/PC through emulation & its a blast. Great video as always.
@deusvlad2.083
@deusvlad2.083 2 жыл бұрын
This is another reason why Grandblue fantasy Re-link RPG hasn't come out yet aside from the pandemic slowing it down too, they didn't want to release it close to final fantasy 7 remake, so they will hopefully before remake part 2 comes out.
@HolyHadou
@HolyHadou 2 жыл бұрын
Would Star Ocean 5's developers being pulled from their game to help with FF15 and other games count as a JRPG being ruined by other JRPGs? Also is that story true? I heard somewhere that that was the case.
@StarDragonJP
@StarDragonJP 2 жыл бұрын
Pretty sure the fact that it was a Dreamcast game was why Skies of Arcadia didn't sell well. Heck if Grandia 2 didn't get ported to PS2 it probably wouldn't have been as well remembered as it was.
@banedeath
@banedeath 2 жыл бұрын
Both of those games, as well as phantasy star online, were my top 3 played games on dreamcast. I admit the dreamcast was not my favorite system, but even with later ports I felt it was the best way to play those games. (I just hated the controller and the weird memory cards)
@otakudaikun
@otakudaikun 2 жыл бұрын
All the games I wanna play come out at the same time, which really sucks for RPGs.
@toromei
@toromei 2 жыл бұрын
This is a really interesting commentary. I’m just not sure that it matches reality, because in most cases they “competing” games were on separate platforms. Most people didn’t have multiple competing consoles, really just the most affluent, who could afford to buy multiple games in the same month; similarly, those unable to afford multiple consoles wouldn’t have to choose at all. I can’t argue that some of these publishers had some pretty odd timing though, on top of poor localization and marketing efforts. It’s really interesting to revisit all of this in hindsight though. Thanks for making this video! :)
@diaochan7506
@diaochan7506 2 жыл бұрын
I try and I like Suikoden 2 than Ff7.
@anthonygiovanni8434
@anthonygiovanni8434 2 жыл бұрын
Wow this was a great video. I still will always be in shock how the Suikoden series wasn’t as popular in the west as It should’ve been ! 😤
@frowningmirror8097
@frowningmirror8097 2 жыл бұрын
Wild Arms 2 is one of the best RPGs in the series, but I have no idea why it wasn't big outside Japan. Feels like it must of had bad timing like the others but I don't know why for sure.
@deusvlad2.083
@deusvlad2.083 2 жыл бұрын
I hate the release date problems some of them really did ruin other games.
@Surlysearle
@Surlysearle 2 жыл бұрын
Poor Jeanne D'Arc, one of my favourite strategy RPGs doomed to obscurity!
@VisualdelightPro
@VisualdelightPro 2 жыл бұрын
🥺 well Tecmo Koei has a game called the Hundred years war Jeanne D Arc is in the game its a Strategy beat em up game.
@julesdouglas2372
@julesdouglas2372 2 жыл бұрын
Shadow Hearts was a CRIMINALLY underratted series. Man the first two games were amazing!!!!
@1989red13bfc
@1989red13bfc 2 жыл бұрын
i remember when xenogears was ruined by FF7 and it deserves to be Remade into the game it should have been.
@mrbastos
@mrbastos 2 жыл бұрын
it's funny, many of these I had on release and enjoyed them. Though I didn't get Shadow Hearts until much later, and I still haven't gotten the later Wild Arms games. Still lots of good memories about having so many games. I don't know how I managed to play so many. I look at my shelf now and wonder where the time goes lol
@PowerPandaMods
@PowerPandaMods 2 жыл бұрын
If Wild Arms 5 had been released a couple of years earlier, it would be considered one of the best RPGs of all time.
@DKarkarov
@DKarkarov 2 жыл бұрын
Seriously doubt it, they stabbed themselves in the foot just like Capcom did with Breath of Fire by massively changing the games mechanics and not in a good way. I was a die hard wild arms fan, and 5 hours of 4 had me returning it for a trade in at gamestop. By the time 5 showed up the IP had already been shot and left for dead.
@SieffrePlays
@SieffrePlays 2 жыл бұрын
Wikipedia's North America release date for Suikoden 2 is wrong. It likely came out about a month later. Still fairly close to FF8.
@camma12
@camma12 2 жыл бұрын
The shadow hearts ones hurt 😞
@SRKBimmy
@SRKBimmy 2 жыл бұрын
This is such a creative idea for a top 10 list. Thanks for showing some love to Jeanne D'arc!
@GreySeraphim411
@GreySeraphim411 2 жыл бұрын
tokyo xanadu was ok.... but HOLY CRAP it would NOT DIE! you have to "beat" the game like 3 times before its ACTUALLY over!
@xnflg3074
@xnflg3074 2 жыл бұрын
That’s like a classic Falcom move haha
@oreox1000
@oreox1000 2 жыл бұрын
I remember when Xanadu EX+ came out on my birthday that year. It looked cool to me so I went to find it. Never did. Wound up buying the special edition a year later and I keep it installed on my PS4 as I think it’s good enough to demand hard drive space.
@whitewolf3051
@whitewolf3051 Жыл бұрын
*If* only they would port Tokyo Xanadu EX+ to modern consoles including the Switch.
@LoneWolfAudio0524
@LoneWolfAudio0524 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy to report I picked up both Shadow Hearts and Shadow Hearts covenant practically Day 1. The original charmed me with its amazing - for the time - cutscenes. By the time I found out the game was NOT fully voiced - something extremely important to me from 2000 to now - I was committed. THen I found out it was a sequel to Koudelka and that kept me going. Finding out Covenant was a great deal more voice acting I absolutely picked that up and was not disappointed. I did also pick up FInal Fantasy X and Kingdome Hearts 2. Would have picked up Tokyo Xanidu too since I remembered loving YS games back in the day and it looked interesting. Then I found out it was Japanese only voice acting, which is always an immediate nope for me. ANd yes, I realize that criteria has made me miss out on some greats, and yes, that IS very disappointing.
@PhantomBlackStar
@PhantomBlackStar 2 жыл бұрын
What i don't get is, do people get a game then ignore the rest without research? I been trying to get many games as possible years ago , watching KZfaq videos or researching , gotten harder nowadays due to prices.
@faidou9954
@faidou9954 2 жыл бұрын
tfw you just got into Suikoden, started loving it, and the only thing you have to look forward to is a Spiritual Successor (Eiyuden Chronicle).
@ohnosmoarlulcatz
@ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 жыл бұрын
Sakura Wars (2019) wasn't ruined by Final Fantasy 7 Remake. It was ruined by not being Sakura Wars. Sakura Wars was originally a turn based strategy game that had the development of the various Combat Revues (Kagekidans) as they faced the oncoming demon invasions around the world. New Sakura Wars started off by not only abandoning this premise, but also locking every major character in the franchise so far other than the one retiree inside of Shadow Tokyo, essentially killing them off screen. Once word of this got out, you really started to see the frustration that people had. What you ended with up isn't something that's a tribute to the original. Instead, it's something more of a perversion as you have an evil clone of the original Sakura running around and the original character only makes a voice cameo during the climax. One game that doesn't resemble the original, one dead mobile game, and one shoddy anime later, nothing has really changed. We aren't any closer to saving the original cast or seeing them back on screen. We haven't had the original cast featured in any way either and it's baffling that they never corrected their course and instead doubled down on the new cast that the original people who supported a revival of the franchise wouldn't have had an interest in. And then elsewhere, you have Trails into Reverie going strong...
@Kaimax61
@Kaimax61 2 жыл бұрын
No, it was ruined by Purist like you. Same thing you guys did to Sakura wars V.
@ohnosmoarlulcatz
@ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 жыл бұрын
@@Kaimax61 Sakura Wars V was actually Sakura Wars unlike 2019. It was ruined by Sega not caring about their western market. It took them FIVE YEARS to translate the game. The fan translations beat them to it by at least two years. Sakura Wars 2019 was just a cheap Dynasty Warriors knock off with no stakes.
@nr2676
@nr2676 2 жыл бұрын
Maybe becouse Shin Sakura Wars was made for new Western fans who dont played past games (total casuals in musou and Visual Novel genre). And this is first game made by not original studio Red Company, but made by Team Sonic - they didnt created a good Sonic game for years and you expected a good Sakura Wars game from that studio ? They should give SW to Valkyria Chronicles devs, where a large proportion of the employees are former members of the Red Company, not to unexperienced with SW Team Sonic . Also combat change was a bad idea (Valkyria Revolution flashbacks). Musou without RPG elements and progression system is very boring and repetive. And u just cant made musou with teamwork feature from older SW games, this is impossible becouse u cant play all 6 characters in one moment in action game like in turn-based SRPG (in one turn) . I think its still good and fun game, but as i man who played all SW games i understand why fans are mad on that game.
@nr2676
@nr2676 2 жыл бұрын
@@ohnosmoarlulcatz Sakura Wars 5 was not translated by SEGA, but by NISA, thats why translation of this game took 5 year. Yes release game on PS2 in 2010 was great idea :)
@ohnosmoarlulcatz
@ohnosmoarlulcatz 2 жыл бұрын
​@@nr2676 Sakura Wars was revived because of a poll conducted by Sega of Japan towards the Japanese audience. It doesn't make sense to use that poll to justify the creation of a game directed at a western audience rather than the target demographic of your poll. It's just another thing to pile onto the dumb decisions made by Sega. And like I've said, they had plenty of time to try to correct this. Yet, their mobile game and anime only doubled down. I suggest you take a look at how Warriors Orochi is done. It's Musou with a basic framework of teamwork features. Warriors Orochi 3 even featured I think a 5 man Gauntlet Mode (I forget the exact numbers, but it was more than 3) during the PS3 era and you could switch between them as well. You could utilize teammates as assist strikers and team attacks. Warriors All Stars was another twist on this that utilized 1 playable character with 4 assists. Was it crude? Yeah. But Warriors Orochi 3 was 5 years before Sakura Wars 2019 and Warriors All Stars was 2 years before. Considering Sakura Wars 5 had its numbers fudged by NISA's 9,999+ report rather than a more accurate sales figure, that's not something you should have confidence in. The total figures since then look a little better at about 120k for the west, but not sure if those are accurate numbers for Sakura Wars 5 as it is from VGChartz, which is not a reliable source.
@markuswithak5084
@markuswithak5084 2 жыл бұрын
Tokyo Xanadu was a great experience
@infiniteaaron
@infiniteaaron Жыл бұрын
I know Onimusha: Dawn of Dreams isn't a JRPG. However, I wonder if you have an interest in this series because it was "ruined" by the makers pushing it out near the release of the PS3. I'm asking if you'd be interested to make a top 10 JRPG video on games ruined by release date. Edit: I asked about Dawn of Dreams before watching the whole video, or even seeing you talk about Onimusha Tactics.
@luke3810
@luke3810 2 жыл бұрын
Idk if it's too soon but more recently, I actually think NEO: TWEWY might be able to fit on this list. I heard it only sold 28k copies its first week in japan whereas the original game sold 84k copies in its first week. Monster Hunter Stories 2, Ys IX (PC/Switch versions), and FF1-3 Pixel remasters all launched around the same time as NEO: TWEWY which gave it a lot of competition from what it looks like.
@koxame
@koxame 2 жыл бұрын
Also with zelda skyward sword hd along the way
@neoqwerty
@neoqwerty 2 жыл бұрын
From what I heard, the bad localization choices and lack of marketing killed it way more than the other games that launched at the same time. I'm a Squeenix fan and at least pay attention to what they put out, and even I didn't know NEO TWEWY even existed until 4 days ago.
@AlastorShadow0
@AlastorShadow0 2 жыл бұрын
@@koxame um zelda isn't a rpg...
@Makoto03
@Makoto03 2 жыл бұрын
Its sad how the Wild Arms series has been abandoned. We don't even have ports of Wild Arms 4 and 5 on PS4, despite Wild Arms 3 being on there.
@renatocampos3114
@renatocampos3114 2 жыл бұрын
I'm playing Tokyo Xanadu is a very good action JRPG. I laughed when talking about Shadow Hearts Covenant that had to compete with Shin Megami Tensei 3 and Paper Mario, because for me Shadow Hearts Covenant was my most anticipated JRPG in 2004 I hadn't played any Atlus JRPG, and I didn't have Game Cube and I didn't even know about Paper Mario. I had played the first Shadow Hearts and liked it so much , it was my favorite JRPG franchise from the PS2 era , surpassing even Final Fantasy .
@AdachiCabbage
@AdachiCabbage 2 жыл бұрын
You should put Neo on here too. Twewy sequel was requested by everyone but was overshadowed by Tales of Arise along with Story of Seasons PooT.
@DaakkuuYRS
@DaakkuuYRS 2 жыл бұрын
World of Final Fantasy by Final Fantasy 15 to some extent. Yes, World came out one month before it, but 15 was the way more known game of them. What Square the hell was thinking to release them together?
@Patch_duress
@Patch_duress 2 жыл бұрын
@3:16 I never knew you could recruit Futch and Humphrey before Jowy left the party. 😮
@the13thjoker
@the13thjoker 2 жыл бұрын
It can be matilda gate glitch or cheat
@AimlessWandererSano
@AimlessWandererSano 2 жыл бұрын
The one game I remember playing and loving was Dual Hearts, a hack and slash game that focused around the concept of dreams and nightmares with the RPG mechanics focusing around leveling all the various weapons you acquired. It got destroyed by Kingdom Hearts, they came out barely a week apart from each other.
@saloz9483
@saloz9483 2 жыл бұрын
Ah Shadow hearts 1&2 my favorite JRPGs of all time. I bought part 1 merely out of curiosity and at the time it was dirt cheap. I fell in love and bought part 2 right away. The games were also pretty dam hard jrpgs since you had to time things just right for combat. Part 1 also caught me off guard since the ending you really had to work for did not end up being the canon ending which was a pretty big blow to me lol. As for Tokyo Xanadu and Sakura Wars it also didn't help they were sub only games which decreased their reach as well.
@SussycatD
@SussycatD 2 жыл бұрын
It became the canon ending only AFTER the true ending of SH2. Where yuri goes back in time to make things right
@rabidhellhound9714
@rabidhellhound9714 2 жыл бұрын
I think that I found the problem: Pretty much all of these rpgs were released in October, the time where Big Games are released. Forcing them to compete instead of releasing them in February-July when players are looking for something new to play and the competition is much, much less steep.
@MrFaceNumeroUno
@MrFaceNumeroUno 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks Erick 10/10 as always! Yea I beat Onimusha Tactics when it came out because I'm a total srpg mark. Fun game. Not great but really good I thought
@engrjobilo
@engrjobilo 2 жыл бұрын
thanks for sharing these games that i don't know. I appreciate it. and gladly to learn more about JRPG.
@bernardorodriguez405
@bernardorodriguez405 2 жыл бұрын
It really, REALLY bothered me that in the tales of destiny clip, Stahn name was changed to Rutee. I know this has nothing to do with the video, but I had to pause and see if I wanst going crazy. Interesting video though
@kelog5446
@kelog5446 2 жыл бұрын
I won my ps Vita at taco bell...it mostly sat in a drawer for years(and still does)because none of the games caught my attention. I certainly never would have spent money to buy it(I was a poor starving college student at the time). I really didn't have the time or money to sink into it.
@GrieverSquall
@GrieverSquall Жыл бұрын
I found a copy of Tales of Destiny in the dirt, all scratched, in the early 2000`s. That`s how my love for the series started.
@elknolasshrineofraja3966
@elknolasshrineofraja3966 2 жыл бұрын
🌸😹It is surprising to find out that Tales Of Destiny shares the same birthday (though different year) as I😹🌸
@patricklee2363
@patricklee2363 2 жыл бұрын
I actually finished Tokyo Xanadu Ex+ pretty recently. I really hope we get a second one!
@takehirolol5962
@takehirolol5962 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I really liked it too on PC.
@David_Alvarez77
@David_Alvarez77 2 жыл бұрын
I played Tales of Destiny back when it came out. It was really fun and a long adventure. It was the first Tales game I ever played and remains my favorite.
@meroddaglenholm7924
@meroddaglenholm7924 2 жыл бұрын
Skies of Arcadia is one of the few JRPG's I've fully completed. And I played both versions. It was one of the best I ever played. Shadow Hearts 1 & 2 were also brilliant.
@kawaiipotatoes7888
@kawaiipotatoes7888 2 жыл бұрын
When 10 was released I thought that was the best graphics I will ever seen.
@renookami4651
@renookami4651 2 жыл бұрын
Alternative title: "Final Fantasy casually overshadowing other franchises like it's nobody's business" xD
@nisejohnsmith
@nisejohnsmith 2 жыл бұрын
Growing up in the 90s and buying the majority of these titles day one (only to put them on the back burner :P) the nostalgia was real for me in this one. Also a lot of bad memories of early SCEA's scorn for 2D/sprite based titles, RPGs in particular... it still kills me to this day that we got all 4 Toshinden games in america somehow.
@ivenstorm
@ivenstorm 2 жыл бұрын
Funny story about Shadow Hearts. I went to my local EB games to buy Final Fantasy X a couple days after release. Sold out. But what I did find was Shadow Hearts 1, a game I'd literally never heard of before, that quickly became one of my favorite jrpgs of all time, even more than FFX after I eventually played it.
@RheixLP
@RheixLP 2 жыл бұрын
/*starting to write down shadow hearts* it's always nice to find hidden gems~ :3 but man it's really unfortunate how a few months earlier or later can almost kill a serie....
@khivata.y6796
@khivata.y6796 2 жыл бұрын
What will happen to SMT V and Blue Reflection, because Sinnoh Remake and GTA Remastered
@sageky
@sageky 2 жыл бұрын
He started the video with Turtles IV and ended it with Sakura wars. :D
@m.l.tankesly2665
@m.l.tankesly2665 2 жыл бұрын
The Wild Arms curse struck again with WA5, don't forget the original Wild Arms had the misfortune of being released around the same time as Final Fantasy VII. And the delay of Wild Arms: Alter Code F for North America ...it's like there is plot or something.
@dreamEnd
@dreamEnd 2 жыл бұрын
I think Sakura Wars would see a bigger success if they ported it to other console especially PC instead of making it a PS4 exclusive and forcing it to compete with FF7. It's kinda niche but there's always a demand for a Mecha-JRPG games. Persona and Yakuza has seen a huge success with the PC port despite being a rather 'unique' RPG, not sure what stopping them from porting Sakura Wars as well
@nr2676
@nr2676 2 жыл бұрын
Reason is simple: Sakura Wars PS4 had lowest budget from all Sakura Wars games. Only opening in Sakura Wars 3 costed arround 3 000 000 $ (in 2001 !!!), its 1/3 budget of PS4 game. In interview they mentioned: Team Sonic must had to choose between ENG dubb or subtiles in multiple languages (German, Spanish, French, Italian). They had to choose subtiles becouse its ofcourse cheaper. Simply they dont had money for porting game.
@DarkFrozenDepths
@DarkFrozenDepths Жыл бұрын
What makes me so mad about Wild Arms 5 is that the JP version of that AND 4 has been CONSTANTLY placed on their PSN stores.... I think even XF as well. The entire series at that. But overseas? You get only Wild Arms 1, 2, or 3.... that's it. Not XF, not 4, not 5, not even ALTER CODE... What the hell Sony?! And I highly doubt we'll get a global release of Wild Arms: Million Memories. A gacha game sure, but one I'd actually want to play!
@ilpohartikainen2771
@ilpohartikainen2771 2 жыл бұрын
Well, this isn't just only for JRPG games, there's tons of other games and video game consoles that suffered with the same fate
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