Just gonna say it. If Zesteria is the weakest link in the Tales franchise, that just speaks to how good the overall quality of the Tales series is.

I love Final Fantasy VIII! Laguna is a gigachad.

You misunderstand the "hatred" for Kingdom Hearts 3. It's not so much the complicated lore, that's a problem with pretty much every entry of the series. A lot of people just thought it was too easy, had a problem with the lack of FF characters, and may have felt it wasn't worth the long wait. Although the reception is actually very mixed.

Now that Star Ocean 5 is out, Star Ocean 4's suddenly not so bad now.

The Final Fantasy XIII trilogy is soooo underrated it's actually infuriating. The hate mostly comes from the fact that back in 2010, many players wanted an open world FF game, but XIII is linear in its first half. Retrospectively, the three games are really good. XIII-2 especially was amazing, and it still has one of the best JRPG soundtracks of all time along with Persona 5. I really hope SE releases a remaster of the trilogy so that people finally realize how good those games actually are.

In my eyes, there's a special place in hell for lunar dragon song. Taking damage from dashing....who thought that was a good idea?

Honestly would be lovely a video about the best love stories in jrpgs as I am also a romantic myself!

I absolutely looooove the Hyperdimension Neptunia series! 😊😊❤️❤️❤️ One of my favorite Jrpg series. Especially part 3 Victory and VII and VIIR. They're cute and hilarious. True the very first one wasn't the best by no means but the main thing I do not like about them is all the TONS of dlc they have.

I will die on the hill defending FF XIII. Yes, it's extremely linear, but that's refreshing in an age of open-world everything; and IMO it's the one RPG where everyone in your party seems to dislike each other at first, slowly changing over the course of the game so when the obligatory Power of Friendship Speech comes near the end, it actually feels deserved instead of trite.

I miss the Golden Sun series. I think they were ingenious and beautiful in their own way. The only thing I can hope for is a remaster...

I was 11 years old when I got Final Fantasy VIII along with a Playstation One for my birthday. It was the most beautiful game I had ever played. This game got me into RPG's. I started collecting all Final Fantasy games and from there I became a collector of many more game/consoles. It got me into my hobby and, for that, it will forever hold a special place in my heart.

I love quite a few of these: Star Ocean, FF XIII, Neptunia, Kingdom Hearts III, and FF X-2. Even so, I understand the criticism for each of these completely. I guess I feel lucky that I am able to enjoy a lot of games that people don't like at all lol

Buen video, ya tenía tiempo que no pasaba por el canal. El lado positivo es qué hay material para estos días. Saludos!

I like FFXIII, I love FFVIII and I will keep buying Hyper Dimension Neptunia. Have a great day everyone.

After actually playing (and Platting) the entire XIII trilogy, their' actually not as bad as their rap. For 13, the story *is* convoluted because it just dumps you in and doesn't fully explain everything until the end and the first *literal* 40 hours is a tutorial. Once that tutorial ends, the game feels fantastic.

In defense of Hironobu Sakaguchi, his last "Final Fantasy" where he had total command to show what he was made of, was Final Fantasy IX, and we all know what a jewel of a classic that one was. He had no real hand in the series from X onward, that is Kitase territory. And love how you still keep the hate going for Time and Eternity. Why in hell did Imageepoch not focus on polishing the Last Ranker and Sol Trigger franchises, or at the very least port them properly (they are their best games after Arc Rise Fantasia and Stella Glow, imo) is beyond me. Oh well.

Lunar 1 and Lunar 2 were very good, the true ending of 2 was a masterpiece that it made me cry. I really wanted a true sequel to this series.

I liked SO4! :-) Yeah, Lymle had a not-too-brilliant VA in English, but I really liked Laura Bailey as Reimi. :-)

Hey, really enjoying your channel, especially the Top-10 Lists. Would love to see captions of the Game's Titles, though, if you have never heard of them, sometimes it's kinda hard for me to grasp the exact wording. Thanks, and keep up the good work.

Star Ocean the Last Hope was the best star ocean for me.

“Haters don’t like a certain aspect so theyre copeing” Erick Landon 2021

I remember being super disappointed with Fire Emblem Fates because the story felt like it was written by a 12 year old trying to be edgy. It's a shame because the gameplay of Conquest felt super polished and the levels were a lot of fun; my favorite being the level where you play on two maps simultaneously. In the end, I think the writers were overwhelmed by 3 campaigns, and the mountain of support conversations. Luckily, they managed 3 houses better in the writing department.

The Last Hope was one of Matt Mercer's earliest roles. Now, he's a voice acting god and hosts the largest show on Twitch.

FF8 is incredible, I think a lot of people like it but the most vocal people love to shit on it. Unwarranted hatred of the Junction system which isnt nearly as bad or tedious as people make it out to be, nor do they seem to know about refining. Star Ocean 4 is really good too. A bit corny here and there but still a good game. Star Ocean games get so much hate, I love the series. Even SO5. People say it's just janky Tales, but I like Star Ocean a little more than Tales honestly. Love what ya love, who cares what the popular opinion is.

Honestly Final Fantasy 8 is one of the best in the series. All it needs is some minor changes vastly improve the gameplay. 1 expand the Magic pages so you can have at least 1 of each spell(you can count the -ra and -raga under 1 slot not their own) 2 remove the junctioned spells from your cast list or don't make stat changes during combat 3 allow players to buy spells from merchants instead of just getting them from monsters or from random spots 4 expand the combat menu to always have Items (that was the biggest BS thing they did, lock the Item action behind junctioning). All these small changes would make a huge impact on the gameplay. Also I will say that I really like the idea that all the side stuff in the Kingdom Hearts series actually matters in the overall plot. I however do think it could have be managed better. Kingdom Hearts 3 was disappointing because there was obvious pacing issues and difficulty of trying to piece everything together. It also had some of the worst levels designs of the series. Arendale was just a disappointment. I know that they made that level before or around the time Frozen was still in production but it was definitely poorly handled.

Dude I’m shocked that you didn’t include Xenosaga: Episode II. It almost single-handedly TORPEDOED the entire franchise in many peoples’ opinions.

The Neptunia games are very fun, imo. Very addicting combat and stupid stories.

I've never played a Star Ocean game, though First Departure is on my backlog. That said, that footage you showed of Last Hope looked really cool, and I'm actually pretty psyched to try it out someday. If bad voice acting is the worst of it, that's nowhere near a deal breaker.

I loved FF8, and yes even the draw system. Got to a point where I was able to draw enough Ultima spells for junctions to mega buff my team

I liked FFVIII when it came out for what it tried to do, but as time passed the flaws showed more and more. I'd really like to see another RPG done with the concept with tighter mechanics though. Apparently one of the ideas for the game when it was in early development was to eliminate spell levels and instead have a spell's power determined by how much MP you pump into it when casting. I can see how that would be easy to abuse, but so is Junctioning.

Hola Erick, me gustó mucho tu vídeo. Me preguntaba si podrías y querrías hacer videos con tips sin spoilers de cómo jugar alguno de tus RPGs favoritos. Saludos y sigue con tu buen trabajo.

Final Fantasy VIII and Star Ocean 4 are my favorites in the series. I actually liked XIII and its sequels.

I actually enjoyed Tales of Zestiria. The music was Amazing and the battle mechanics clicked with me by mid game, mainning Lailah will make combat amazing. Some of the cast were bland but others were amazing, I prefer Lailah or Edna and Zaveid over the main character Sorey. Probably because I managed to predict Sorey's Character's arc early on due to the "tropey" story, while the other characters motives and fate was shrouded in mystery, especially Zaveid.

How about "Top Ten Most Impractical Weapons in a JRPG".

Thanks for the content Erick, 10/10 video as always! And I know how hard it would be for you for little reward but that won't stop me from forever hoping we get another bloopers vid out of our guy ELRPG!

Unlimited Saga had one of the most confusing and convoluted turn base mechanics I ever witnessed as a kid and as an adult lol

In my eyes at least, all of the mainline Final Fantasy games are great; I think people's hatred of certain entries mainly comes down to personal preferences in the series based on how different the games are from one another, and for some, over resentment over how popular and successful the games are in comparison to some other game that they feel is better.

I got into RPGs with the FF series. Started with 7,8,9, Tactics. Loved them. Became a diehard FF fan. Really enjoyed 10 and 12. Played 13 and couldn’t even finish the game, I despised it so much. Everything from the characters combat system and story. I can’t honestly think of one thing I liked about it. Played 15 years later. It was kinda meh to me. Pretty bummed with the direction the franchise has gone.

Adding FF X-2 as an honorable mention was uncalled for lol. That game...was a masterpiece and no one can change my mind.

Unironically really like Zestiria, one of the better Tales games imo. Yes, I said it.

I actually only like zesteria because of berseria but without it I wouldn’t and I’m actually a fan of 13 the combat was interesting

I just couldn't get past the Disney elements in the Kingdom Hearts series. An RPG with Mickey and Goofy was just too much for me. Though I do understand why a lot of people enjoy it.

My biggest gripe with Kingdom Hearts is that there were no final fantasy characters in it, which was a significant part if the other games.

FYI, it says Tales of Symphonia not Zesteria on the timeline. Enjoying your videos!

For KH3, look the story is what it is, a mess but the game and the whole series is awesome. They story makes it easy to forget what we loved about it in the 1st place, a really fun crossover! My only real issue in 3 was the removal of FF characters

I'm a big fan of ff8. It's certainly my fave ff on the ps1 and that's a hill I will happily die on

Wait people hate Tales of Zesteria That game was Awesome and the story was amazing

I miss old KZfaq when all channels had epic intro music like this.

I’m really surprised Chrono Cross didn’t make the list somewhere. I love the game very dearly, but it gets an absurd unreasonable amount of hate even to this day. Fantastic list though!

Depending upon who you are, but I personally think there is a specific aspect of jrpgs we did not appreciate as much like we do now. Rpgs in general were looked at as sort of these fun adventures with awesome stories and every time pretty FMVS come on screen we would go nuts over them. But there is a artistic representation of rpgs that I think we could not really capture when we were children. It was until we got older that we realized every tiny little detail in all of the 2d landscapes and interior designs of the world which added an immersion to the experience. Well FF VIII was looked at as sort of the black sheep of the FF series, looking back at it now, its far greater then what we initially percieved as kids. The world is gorgious with some of the most breathtaking environments and the game has some of the best music tracks that fits the theme and mood of the story and location you are in. The story is well structured with enough turns and twists to keep you satisfyed if you understand it. It was all around a great game.

I remember trying to play Lunar DS on the bus on my way to school, only to have my party flee from every battle. Turns out blowing into the mic causes the party to flee and the background noise of the bus was enough to trigger it. A handheld game that is unplayable in public places...

hey guys just out of the topic question... just purchased a physical copy of a ps4 game with a dlc code on it ..however my main acct is region 3 and the code region is 2 ..i created a US account and succesfully downloade the code my question is am i able to get the dlc items i downloaded in Reg 2 by switching user to my main acct which is reg 3 or will the dlc items only be available on the reg where i downloaded it.. thanks

Nomura didn´t write Kingdom Hearts, he just directed the games, you just need to investigate a little to know that.

People who hate games like Hyperdimension Neptunia hate them just because they're gatekeepers. Neptunia doesn't take itself seriously and has a ton fanservice and that's ok, not every jrpg needs to be a philosophical and mature game, sometimes you just want to relax and have fun playing those kinds of games

FFVIII was a JRPG for people who had been playing them since the beginning. Its intentionally radical departure from all conventions of the genre, *including* a focus on the characters as complex, flawed, sometimes even lame, real human beings, rather than Shonen Jump style heroes. Everyone's entitled to their opinion, but I would kind of hope that in general, only people who have played more JRPGS can appreciate how VIII subverts the genre, and everything it was trying to do. As far as my memory of that time goes, it is radically different than how you describe it. For the most part, the backlash against 8 wasn't from JRPG diehards, but from the HUGE number of people in the West for whom 7 was their first JRPG. So they were ready for more of that, not something that deliberately flew in the face of those expectations. The backlash, from that much larger demographic of 7 fans, as opposed to people who had been JRPG nerds all through their childhoods starting at FF1, was immediate and massive, similar to the shitty way The Last Jedi was torn into by a bunch of ignorant young red-pilled asshats who had grown up more on the prequels than the original trilogy. Your description of a slow consensus that it was shit is simply false. It was immediately extremely divisive, there are lots of people who love it, and... it was a massive success in Japan, and doesn't have the bad reputation there it does in the West... because they had been into JRPGs from the start, and understood what it was doing and why, as opposed to new American fans of only 7, who were deeply confused by why it was so completely different.

I think it'd be more accurate to narrow down the Neptunia entry to Neptunia Reverse. After Megadimension and Super Nepunia RPG were considered the best games in the series and Cyberdimension being praised for its ambition, fans were eager a continuation to mega. Instead, Reverse was announced as a "super remake" (whatever that means) of Re;Birth 1. Fans were extremely disappointed, given it's the most ported of all Neptunia games. As for what was new, there was a fishing minigame (which was also used to test out the PS5 controller's functions), puddles were added to open dungeons, an arrange mode "for experienced players" (Read: literally just regular story mode but with every character available at all times). Fan disappointment became frustration when it turned out none of the dialogue had changed in the slightest, including explicitly calling the game Hyperdimension Neptunia Re;Birth 1.

I LOVE Kingdom Hearts 3. The gameplay is amazing, I grew up with Kingdom Hearts. When it came out I nearly cried (and I was 21 at that time.)

Despite it's flaws, I always loved Super Hydlide. It has some of the most memorable music on the Genesis, and an interesting story

I've been watching so many videos of yours. I truly appreciate you :)

Zestiria’s camera is the bomb! IT BOMBS MY VIEW BEHIND A WALL!!!

You forgot another honourable mention, one that you like. I still havent tried it, still planning on it, backlog. Valkyria revolution

Final Fantasy 8 is my favorite FF.

Dear Erik. Are you for or against having timestamps in your video. Thanks for the great RPG video by the way!

I’m not gonna lie; one of my favorite series of videos I watched on KZfaq was a compilation of videos called “Let’s Hate Final Fantasy VIII.” It was dedicated to hating on the game’s broken mechanics and cheese-filled dialogue. I had a good laugh! But to be clear I actually LOVE Final Fantasy VIII!! It holds a true nostalgia value for me and has one of the best soundtracks in the series! Ppl still love it too as evidenced when so many complained that the FF Compilation released a few years ago initially didn’t include it. No love/hate relationship with it I genuinely love it. But I also love it when people make fun of it.

Tales of Zestiria is my first Tales game, currently playing it, and I went straight for hard mode lol. About halfway through and I actually find it fun and charming. I guess I'm going to love the rest of the series if they're that much better.

FF13, i liked it when it opened up and then doing everything for 100%, I also really liked part 2. I haven't finished part 3 yet, dunno if I ever will

I can only imagine the stupidity behind even considering the idea of a "pure hearted *assassin"*

regarding Kingdom Hearts 3's hate part of it was there was NO WAY IN HELL it was ever going to live up to ALL the hype it had

I've played my fair share of Tales games, and I'd just like to say that Zestiria really doesn't deserve the hate. I love it, even more than Berseria.

As a Tales of Symphonia 2 defender Tales of Zesteria broke me on the franchise, the combat was that bad. And FE Fates is dumb but the bad localization is what makes it truly a bad game. As for FF13, It’s OK, I’ve started to appreciate it knowing what the studio must have gone through. That transition from ps2 ~> ps3 was rough on many Japanese franchises.

Lightning Returns is great, except the convoluted time mechanics, but you can manage with a guide for the quests and by the end of the game there is a skill that almosts keep the time stoped.

I thought that Victory and V2 were considered mechanical improvements for the Neptunia series? However, the series sense of humor will always be a love or hate it affair for many.

Xiii-2 was really enjoyable imo, the level design, story and even the music was an improvement compare to the first, i tried to enjoy Lightning Returns as well but the time limit aspect killed it for me.

I really, really enjoyed the Hyperdimension Neptunia game that I played. Then again, full disclosure, I am a shallow and somewhat dense person so take my opinion for what it's worth.

I won't say that I hate Kingdom Hearts but I was 26 when it came out, which means I have waited half of my life for that game to come out. Once I finished it my first thought was " I've waited that long, just for that..." Kingdom Hearts 2 is the best of the series. BBS comes after that in my opinion.

I can't believe my 2 RPG dads were fighting.

The Hyperdimesion Neptunia series is actually a guilty pleasure of mine. I like the series..sure it has some face palming moments but it's a game focuses on memes and comedy..and fan service. It's to be expected. A game that is similar to Hyperdimesion Neptunia but has a deeper story is Fairy Fencer F, a great game and deserves a play.

I loved Final Fantasy XIII and Final Fantasy 8 both are great games!

"Characters going on and on" is the perfect description for Fire Emblem Fates.

Somehow I'm not surprised the man who defended Dragon Star Varnir thinks Zestiria and FE Fates were okay. You do you, my man. Good video.

I'd throw Legend of Legaia 2 on there. The first game was fun, the combat was a bit like Xenogears in that different attacks could be chained together. 2 was just...well, it's like the main goal was to kill the series and boy did they succeed. That's the only way I can describe just how the devs could've botched it the way they did.

Well then. I'm just going to ignore the last bit, and tune the world out in Mystic Quest's opening area in my quest to grind to max level.

Depends with Fe fates, Conquest gameplay wise is such an incredible Fe game. Birthright just feels too easy, but that makes it a great entry point game for new players. Revelations I don't like to talk about. Conquest is genuinely solid tho

With SO4, i thought you would mention the disk swapping, that was my main complaint (yes, i know it was fixed on later consoles)

I think I'm one of the few people who loves Zestirua. Hell, I've been playing the Tales games since rhe first one on the Snes. And Zestiria is on my top 5. Not the first spots, of course, but it's there.

Fire Emblem Fates actually has pretty damn-good gameplay, I have to say, what with adding bows and magic (and the new shuriken/daggers) to the weapon triangle, and interesting new Skills like Replicate, along with the Partner Seal and Friendship Seal mechanics, and not "resetting" a character's level when changing class like Awakening did (so if the character's already over Lv. 15, they'll get their class's Skills over the next few levels, instead of having to reach 5 and 15 every single time). I actually like Fates more than Three Houses, since Fates doesn't have needlessly-strict restrictions like the calendar or Activity Points, and has very few gender-locked classes (even the usually female-only Pegasus Knight line was renamed to "Sky Knight" and made accessible to guys), which 3H unfortunately, and idiotically, reverted. Fates is just far more open than 3H, which is what I find fun. Saying that, though, yeah...Fates' stories aren't exactly the best, they didn't need to essentially bring back Tharja as Rhajat, Peri is a psychotic abomination who should've been executed long before she could ever hope to become Xander's retainer, and the stat drops tied to Silver weapons and stuff is utterly dumb, and the children units had no real reason to exist other than to bring back this system from Awakening, and there's no Apotheosis map to bother min-maxing for. Oh, and when the 3DS eShop inevitably shuts down most of this game's content will become inaccessible, so that sucks.

I agree 50/50 on the list but I have polarizing tastes and opinions to begin with, like for example being a longtime fan of Tales, loving Zestiria and seeing Abyss as my least favorite, lol. Also, I feel sad for Mystic Quest. I have fond memories of rocking out to the battle themes of that game!

Tales of Vesperia is my favorite tales on pc. That even includes placing it above arise.

Despite all the probelms that Zesteria had, it is actually my third favorite Tales game (out of nine I've played). I really enjoy the fusion mechanic. And yes, I agree it has some problems with it (such as that if Rose' or Sorey dies then you are pretty much fucked), I love the idea as a whole.

I still love FFXIII! Music was different, soothing by times, rocking other times. Loved it. Graphic-wise, it was great, colorful. I liked the story.

I thought integrity and faithlessness was the SO everyone hated.

Zesteria in my top 3 tales of games . It was pretty shocking to see people hate it so much on the internet lol

I find the Neptuina games fun. I have many of them Platinumed on both PS3 and Vita. I find the characters to be quirky, not so much bad.

Zestiria was a case of great gameplay and mcs. The problem was poor story, side characters, and villains.

Star Ocean 4...the main issue at the time was that the 360 version did not have the Japanaese dub, icons and worst of all...3 discs! When you wanted to go to another planet, you had to change the disc for specific planets. This was all fixed on the PS3 version Eric, I was just about to get the 360 version at the time but when news of the PS3 International version was confirmed it was the definitive one to get.

That was a close one. Thought you were gonna talk about my beloved ff12.

10 - FFVIII - I loved it, never got the hate 9 - Star Ocean 4 - one of my favorite SOs, also never understood the hate 8 - Kingdom Hearts 3 - could never get past KH 1, I just found it boring 7 - Tales of Zestiria - I enjoyed the battle system a lot actually as well as the equipment levelling system, but hated everything else, especially Sora and Mikleo- 6 - Hyperdimension Neptunia - Always wanted to try them but never got around to it. The meta-story seems interesting to me, and I like the anime character designs... 5 - Fire Emblem Fates - fine I guess. I prefer the older entries... I did despise the choice they made to sell the ending as a separate game. Wish I had bought the combined package though, which now sells for hundreds of dollars... 4 - Lunar Dragon Song - I adore the Lunar series, I have the original collector's edition games signed by Vic Ireland (president of Working Designs). However I never tried Dragon Song. Never even heard of it actually. 3 - Hydlide - no idea, I would have guessed this was an old arcade game like Joust 2 - Breath of Fire 6 - Can't Say I tried it either... Love lots of the other BoF games though 1 - FFXIII - Ever since FFX, I usually don't enjoy the game when I play it, but then over tiem I realize I want to play it again. Happened to me with 10, 12, and 13. Now I look back at the battle system and think I might really love this game.

I liked everything about FF8 except the damn draw system and stat building.

That's my seconf favorite FF actually ^^ Surprised that there is no Suikoden IV

Breath of fire 1-4 are among my favorites. I hate how they killed the series because they were set up so well with 4 and then murdered it with dragon quarter. A true shame