Almost half of the list are Atlus games. You can clearly do a 20 unfair boss with just Atlus games.

To this day me and my brother use the term "pulling a Seymour" to mean when an rpg boss wipes out your party in 1 turn.

To be fair Matador teachers players the importance of buffs and debuffs in the game, since you will really need it throughout the game if you want to progress mostly in the hardest difficulty, but still fck him. XD

Matador's one of the best bosses of all time! I've been wiped out first time against him. Had to grind and think a lot how to approach him!

Yunalesca would be on my honorable mentions list.

One of my unfair bosses is Beatrix from FFIX. Sure, you are not supposed to beat her outright, but as I was going for the super rare items that you steal or she drops, I was spending hours resetting and redoing her battles tons of times.

deserved a view for acknowledging SMT

You could literally just make a list populated by bosses from Atlus-made games

I hate it when it's taken a couple of hours to kill a boss, you've run out of supplies and mp to heal, your team is looking on their last legs, you haven't blinked for two hours... only to realise it comes back to life in a bigger form 😭

Come on Erick the soulsborne's bosses aren't that hard ... after 26 tries ...

That murder zombie in the sewers in xenogears. He insta kills party members and heals their max hp, even if they arent at full. That after a several hour sewer maze that is frustrating enough.

I came here for: 1. The cussing 2. The content 3. But mostly the cussing

Demyx - KH2. Three words. "Dance, Water, Dance!"

You have so much energy in this video, I love it. You earned yourself a new subscriber

Ah Beldr form devil survivor, many death even after second new game😅

I dunno if you're counting SRPGs, but I have to mention the Weigraf 1v1, followed immediatley by Belius followed immediatley by "Protect Rafa" against two Assassins with NO SAVE in between from Final Fantasy Tactics... actually agony

realy love the intro editing man it stands out a lot. nice picks in the video can say i havent played any of them.

game developers: **trolls the players by making a really strong boss in the early game** gamers: **destroys the game by cheating and creating hacks** game developers: **surprised pickachu face**

Opiomorph from Xenogears, anyone remember that fight? That is what I would call unfair because she comes right after beating Ramsus which he can leave your party with one HP. With good preparation it was just a matter of defending until you recharge enough fuel to go all out on it. Not very hard but truly an unfair fight if not prepared.

I'll never forget, I actually rented Mana Khemia from my public library when I was a senior in Highschool. Shit was rad. I couldn't believe the library let you rent games for free and actually had a JRPGs or 2 that looked interesting

Demi-Fiend from Digital Devil Saga would’ve been a nice mention if this included hidden bosses. Actually a lot of bosses from Nocturne are an honorable mention lol

God, Miguel was such a cheap ass in Chrono Cross as he's literally a one-shotting machine.

Mannn that's video is awesome, I remember when I fought to the Isolde in Mana Khemia, that's hell, but matador in SMT Nocturne is more dificult than that. But there's some bosses in Grandia III is also unfair to. Great video

The way your accent is taking over when you get angry is adorable

brooo almost 40k subscribers. You rock, keep going

So glad to see Grossa on here. He’s the first one to come to mind for me. Had to go back and grind for hours to even have a shot at him

Glad you mentioned Wild Arms 5, such great franchise that could return.

Glad to see Mana Khemia getting some love, i've played it like 10 years ago i think is one of the best rpg that the ps2 has. The ost is sublime. I remember having some trouble with Isolde but, since i was accustomed with the system, i had to only try 2 or 3 times i believe. The fiends in SMT are always a pain in the ass. Nice list.

Wasn't expecting Seymour Flux. Good. Fuck that guy. As I recall there's a *reeeeeeeally* long unskipable cutscene before the fight if you die as well. I was super under levelled for this fight when I played FFX so my hatred is a little biased. But glad to see him on the list anyways.

I thoroughly appreciate the frustrated vocab used in this video my friend

Well, buffs & debuffs break every SMT game that lets them stack up unless the enemy has an effect canceler.

I required healing FROM THE THUMBNAIL ALONE.... I SURVIVED ALL THREE... EVENTUALLY

As a few others have mentioned...Wiegraf, first run without knowing what's what...brutal...that's where I learned to have multiple saves. Honorable mention to Luca Blight in Suikoden 2. Another one, that once you know where you're going, it's fine, but first playthrough without a guide...I had to restart my game on that one as well. Was unprepared.

Yunalesca was way harder than Seymour for me. I would die after an hour of fighting her and turned off my TV when the cutscene played to lose again after an hour later. Fought and lost to her over a dozen times. Finally beat her years later when I started a new game and grinded like crazy.

For honorable mentions I would say that the Dragon Quest series usually has some bosses midway or so through the game that usually pose the most challenge, e.g. second time fighting Murdaw in DQVI, Mostroferrato in DQV or Dhoulmagus in DQVIII.

*sees Riddel being used in the intro clip* A man of taste. Subbed.

Grand Jewel from Legend of Dragoon kicked my ass first time around.

Honorable mentions; The Gremlin from BoF 1 due to the huge second wind, and Bloody Mary from Terranigma since you cannot damage her much before level 21...

Fighting Setmour in the snow made me question life...until I got everyone and all the summons to their breaks and chain cast them all.

Top 10 super boss jrpgs.

I nominate Gloomnivore from Dragon Quest IX on Switch. That boss hits twice per round and can take out you entire party if he uses his breath of fire on both of both turns.

Dude your videos are awesome!!!

Seymour Flux(3rd form) was easily the hardest and most frustrating boss battle of my childhood because i came off of an easy win with just kimarhi and didnt expect seymour to be the gate keeper to zanarkand. After i lost 10+ times I grinded for 3 hours and it was still incredibly difficult to beat him. Ill never forget that boss battle

Hrm...for me, Mana Khemia's unfair boss was the final boss that has a phase where you can't heal. Isolde wasn't too difficult if memory serves. And I don't mean 'oh, you can heal in this specific way' no, you deadass can't heal for a while in the fight, any healing you do is reduced to 0, with a boss that is doing final boss levels of damage every turn it gets.

I like how the thumbnail shows to SMT monsters XD totally proves how those games can be unfair sometimes.

Man! I love the intro song of your videos! If you can tell us the name or do you have a complete version? LoL

Mana Khemia was the first Altelier game I've played (I got it on a whim for it was on sale at Game Stop and I am a sucker for JRPGs). I did find Isolde to be hard yes, but not unfair, but that's just me, I went crazy with the Alchemy stuff to make sure I had good stuff. For me the most unfair boss was the one before Isolde. It was the one where you had a 2 for one with one that you could only hit with magic and the other with physical attacks? I had to use a guide for assistance there. Anyway, I do hope you get passed Isolde at some point. If I had to pick a boss under these conditions, a few come to mind- Executor from Skies of Arcadia, Eye of Valmar (1st time) in Grandia 2, and Dolce (sp?) from Eternal Sonata. Without your rules, easily most unfair boss is the final one from Grandia 3. Difficulty spike between him and the boss before him goes from a 4 to 20!

Top 10 Easy Jrpg bosses

Great list! The Wind Elemental from Vay would be on my list.

I get fond memories of fighting Beldur on Lv.29 with Mhakhala and Afnac on my protag. while all the other teams were used by me as bait and eventualy got slaughtered.

Barubary from BoF 2. Since you can decide to take him on alone or with your partie - the game itself isn't that unfair. But when you do it alone, then be aware of a challenging experience! Also It's really interesting watching your content. There'll always be games I've never heard before.

first boss fight.. Commentary was hilarious..earned a sub right away lol

To whom it may help, a strategy I've found for Matador. He'll buff his speed +4, debuff him to the point he's at only +1 speed, (this way he won't reset) then buff your own speed to full, +4. (You'll still miss a bit, but nowhere near as much, this is the key to this strategy) At the same time, fully buff your defence while hitting him, don't bother raising your attack, Matador will do that for you with Taunt, which raises the enemy's attack +2 but lowers defence -2. Once he starts using Taunt, go ham, unleash all you've got on him because it then becomes a race to who will fall first. If you fully buffed your defence, then you'll reach full attack before you're even negative in defence.

I'm surprised Arc Rise Fantasia's bosses didn't get mentioned. XD

Most important rules in RPG games: Always max level ur characters. The earlier the better. Give them the right equipment. Use spells and potions wisely. When fighting, don't be an idiot. Retreat if necessary. Know ur opponents weakness. Lastly, don't take fights u know u can't win. Ur welcome.

3:20 Engraved upon your soul. Divine Assault! Nibelung Valesti!

Thank you so much for this video. Valkyria revolution looks very nice.

I click when see matador in SMT Nocturne. That was a frustating one ☹️☹️☹️

was surprised not to see any boss battles from last remnant or lost odyssey make it on here, but that's fine considering there are just way too many rage inducing bosses in JRPG's, but there were several times I had to completely reset the game on last remnant due to severely punishing game mechanics in some of the fights. Very nice list overall though, should definitely make a part 2 at some point.

Thank godness that you have a weaken enemy option in Cold Steel. Even on easy, some boss battles can be really hard.

Chaotic trio in Baten Kaitos... specifically their final encounter... my god what a pain, they have twice as many turns as you and Giacomo especially has that annoying finisher. To make matters worse you have to fight them twice in a row!!!!

I don't remember having any trouble with Seymour in FFX or Isolde in Mana Khemia, but I played and finished FFX like 15 years ago, so maybe I've forgotten. Matador is legit though. The other bosses you mentioned, I haven't played. And I agree, Ys The Oath in Felghana is ridiculously hard. That's the hardest modern game (PS1 and beyond) I've ever played. Unlimited Saga have a group of I think 5 mini bosses in Great Wizard's Tower that are very hard when done consecutively, this is mostly because of Unlimited Saga's mechanics that prevents you from fully healing while inside a dungeon. You only have to defeat 3 of them if I remember correctly, but I remember one or two of them being a lot harder than the rest, so if you pick the wrong one, you're screwed, unless you come prepared.

That's why you should alway grind on every new location for few hours.

Single hit deaths, self regenerating, all around debuffing, multiple stages bosses, i know the experience. I guess all this makes the boss memorable but in the end the challenge is more about testing for weaknesses and patterns, grinding and luck but not all players love to focus on those. About the bosses i'd say lately my highlights are from Etrian Odyssey games, there are usually a few at any stages (some early, some later) that really kick your ass and if have the right classes/skills already and a bit of luck you can win those, if not usually you search for right loot (exp works to a degree) and hope for even more luck. Also post-ending bosses are very lethal, dragons are in most of the games and you know they'll destroy you ;) Another video could be about unfair monsters within the levels of a game, those that in a way are worse than the boss you'll encounter at the end of the area :P

I can tell you were pissed erick :p the worst part of the Miguel battle is the looong unskipable cutscene that comes before it!! I might add the amphysvena/ opiomorph battle from xenogears. You cant save betwen them and there is a long cutscene before them (the redrum battle also counts)

Easily deserves a like for the Mana Khemia love. One boss that I can never get behind, due to being cheap and horribly programmed is Carry Armor from Final Fantasy 7. I can accept bosses that attack twice in a row, especially if they are final boss or noteworthy villains. You know what I don't accept? Bosses that can attack as many as FOUR TIMES IN A ROW before you get a turn, have the ability to grab/incapacitate up to two allies, and do absurd amounts of AoE damage. Final Fantasy 6 had a 'vine' boss where they could prevent characters from acting for a short time before letting go. It never put a game over on you by being cheap like Carry Armor is. Reno 'can' do that (you have to be very unlucky) and Bottomswell, another crappy and cheap boss for the notion of it having bubble traps and Long-Range only...I can't accept how this boss was made and I hope...HOPE...that the remake lets us kick the bolts out of this bastard. It deserves it so much.

The etrian odyssey games have quite tough boxes

that matador was a pain in the ass

I woke up on a summer morning after being stuck on Beldr for a couple days, and I was instantly filled with a burning desire to beat his ass. None of the fog that you usually have to let clear before you are truly awake, I just NEEDED to beat Beldr. I can probably count on one hand the number of times I have woken up with that determination in my entire life, certainly never for a game

shocked you have wild arms 5 on here (although i would have chosen the first volsung fight). also, ever fight Gaza in Legend of Legaia? I also got stuck on that volcano boss from legaia 2 for a while

Lamia Queen from Final Fantasy II. Charms your party and casts Blink XVI on herself. So you have to grind magic in FFII. Heaven forbid you're playing the Famicom,Wonderswan Color or PlayStation version where the more of one stat goes up, the opposite stat goes down, meaning you have to grind magic and lose your physical strength. Legend of Mana and SaGa Frontier 2 is what can happen when someone says "no we're not doing that" to Akitoshi Kawazu. Final Fantasy II and Unlimited Saga is what happens when you give him free reign.

4 separate boss battles with Seymour...4th battle was kind of easy..but the 1st 3.. brutal.

I beat Mana Khemia and never new she was that hard. I don't even recall what I did. But that fight in Crono Cross is definitely on my list. Beldr is on my list too. While that battle was annoying, it was actually the one where he first shows up. He appeared at a bad time, and I underestimated his abilities (ie attack that killed someone far away from him causing me to fail the mission). Plenty of Tales of bosses can feel unfair once they expect you to have a handle on the game mechanics, even than some are rather hard. The first Baiten Kaetos had a tough boss against three people who were going twice. It's also at a spot where you can't go back (though they give you a warning). Or that one boss in Ar tonelico 2 that can freeze your game. Now that is unfair for a different reason. Shining the Holy Ark for the Sega Saturn has a boss with two minions. First you have to fight the minions and then you have to fight her AND the minions. The minions have hit all spell that can really screw you over, AND you can get unlucky and have them both use in on the same turn. Your saving grace is that they can only use it once or so. It's one of those fights were once you lose someone, it is essentially over. I could not get past her even after leveling up some and a few tries. Siriliam 2 a small game for android/pc that had 2 bosses. One was immune to direct damage. In the end I just waited for the poison effect to kill him because I had couldn't do any more damage to him, and I drained his strength so he could do none to me. That battle lasted too long because, in this game, poison does a percent of you current HP with the minimum of 1. Another boss, after that one, would drop all your monster's HP to 1 every time his turn came up, and he would automatically go first at the start of battle. The game isn't as bad as it sounds as there are plenty of party setups that can be nearly as powerful, but it was still cheesy. Final Fantasy: Mystic Quest, the Behemoth, aka the first battle. Just about the only tough battle. The saving grace is that the battle is over quick (whether you win or lose) and you can try battles over again infinitely in the game. Still, you can easily lose that fight by getting hit with a critical hit that has a good chance occurring at some point though you might get lucky and do one yourself.

The bosses in Digital Devil Saga series were pretty tough.

That intro is amazing

LMAO!!! As soon as I saw the title I said “Matador from ‘SMT III: Nocturne’ better be on there!”. I’ve been playing that game since I first got it back in college in 2004, and at this point, I’m pretty familiar with the SMT series and Matador will STILL kick my butt! I don’t think I’ve ever beaten him on my first try in all these years, it’s usually on at least the second or third try, and even then is often by the skin of my teeth! I loved “Ys: Oath in Felghana” but haven’t tried “Ys: Origins” yet. Will have to pick it up next time it’s on sale on Steam.

Demon Wall from the 3D remake of Final Fantasy 4. He has his moveset from the easier iteration in the original, but he has over 100K HP. And he can reach your party's side fairly quickly, hitting your team with Crush, a no questions asked insta-kill for your entire party in one fell swoop.

There needs to be a list of: _"Getting your sorry derriére kicked/losing out for not being prepared/too hasty in J/RPGs"_ You know... Stuff like wasting stuff/skillpoints/items, etc. that either lock you out of secret areas/weapons/characters and/or scenarios or make otherwise challenging but fair fights become the stuff of nightmares and the bread and butter of the gamepad/controller and sheetrock industries. At least in Lufia and the Fortress of Doom you have the relinquished island where you can reclaim some of your mistakes.

Honorable mention: Jimenez in SMT Strange Journey

I love Chrono Cross with all my heart! I grew up with Chrono Cross, Vanguard Bandits and FFT, but CC is the golden key to my heart. Miguel fight is incredible and also very touching, there's just not a single bad thing to say about this master piece, I wish we could have a remake

good video :) about Isolde i really understand you , defeat against her is also engraved on my mind even if it is easier on new game + ; she's almost stronger than the last boss

I tend to over level my characters a bit, so usually I don't have much trouble with the same bosses that others do. I mean I don't even actively search out levels it just happens naturally, and when I do actively level up I usually do 5 levels here and there than move on my way. Or when it's near end game and I wanna reach level 99 for the completionist in me.

I beat that final fantasy X boss 15 years ago aswell. yeah it was hard also that mana khemia boss i beat on release date and it was awesome. That game is very awesome in general.

I had a feeling matador is in here. Im stuck on this guy sadly

Question for you guys. In his opening montage, what was the last game shown? It looks pretty cool.

I can't remember any bosses specifically like this though i did recently played through arc rise fantasia, and i do remember that fight where you have to survive for about 4 turns and on one attempt dying on the first turn XD

def gotta beat Mana Khemia my friend, its alot of fun ^^

I was about to mention Ys Origin! Took me about 4 days to beat the Creeper and close to 10 to beat the Mantid, both on normal difficulty.

For growlanser wayfarer of time the mission I'm actually having trouble on is the bridge map a little farther in after the angel fight. You play the map a bit but you get pinned directly in the middle of tons of enemies with infinite respaws

Beldr can be cheesed with chaos wave + double up OR aggravate + double up. Just ignore the demons that get brought back to life and you'll be fine.

After my first fight with Seymour flux on my first playthrough, I learned to just level all of the Aeons overdrive to max before i fought him. 30 second fight.

Hmm, what is the song that plays at the start? Sounds quite awesome

Love the Miguel selection, Erick! I would have Lynx and Harle in the party most of the time during this part of the story arc in Chrono Cross and let me tell you...taking 2 black innates into the Miguel battle is a HUGE mistake. I have had multiple perfect games end vs. Miguel. That's all you need to know.

They need to make more Mana Khemia . Its basically a spin off of the Atelier games.

One boss that might qualify is Neifirst from Phantasy Star 2. First she kills Nei and then you have to fight her with a diminished party. She hit like a truck and grinding only helps so much and takes soooo long. Best to play this on one of the Genesis collections on Playstation or Xbox so you can have a save state else you have to go all the way back to town when you get killed, which is very likely.

It's been so long since I played Mana Khemia I know I finished the game. Do not remember how I got past this boss. Also ayme folon and giacomo from baton kaitos I am still stuck on until this day...

I grind obsessively in rpgs though mostly, also learned to find an obvious stopping point in rpgs because sometimes if you cant play for a while and u come back later, your lost.

After beating Persona Q2, I now consider Yosukesaurus to be the Matador's spiritual successor since he uses wind and can buff his agility to impossible levels with 'Triple Sukukaja', and you most likely won't have any skills that let you undo that. Then he uses an attack that inflicts confusion on all targets. THEN his friends start showing up behind him, constantly buffing him while attacking you and you're required to defeat them without killing him, meaning your back row can't contribute any kind of attack power and they have about as much HP as he does. No other boss in the game caused me half as many deaths, not even the Velvet room attendants.

Maybe it's just me, but i don't really remember bosses from Oath in Felghana to be unfair. Bos battles in this game can be incredibly hard, that's for sure (especially on higher difficulties), but they almost always consist of bosses performing a very distinct sequence of actions with palyer's goal being learning what to do to avoid damage at each phase. Which is not easy by any means, but this is not i would call unfair, as it doesn't really require luck or grinding (although the latter does make battles a lot easier) But, of course, maybe i remember wrong. Not to mention that diffucluty is a very subjective matter and comparing your experience with it with somebody else's is... well... difficult Thanks for a great video, as always!

You forgot how Seymour automatically instakills any aeons you try to summon. "Death awaits you."