right?!? love that

The realistic sound is what makes Heat and Saving Private Ryan D Day seens so good.

@@kevinmoore4887 I saw Heat in the cinema on release and when that scene kicked off you could see everyone in the audience slowly sink in their seats. It was soooo damned LOUD!

You gotta watch Den of Thieves

That is the exact movie that came to my mind also.

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We all got it coming,

I'm coming out now. Any man I see out there, I'm gonna kill him. Any son of a bitch who takes a shot at me, I'm not only gonna kill him, I'm gonna kill his wife, all his friends, and burn his damn house down.

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Welcome to America!

That shootout in Heat was what inspired the North Hollywood bank robbers who had a similar shootout with LAPD.

As a South African myself I can indeed confirm that is what I would do

@@USNJedi23 Those guys were on some very hard shit though.

It came out before John Wick but if they remade it, the catacomb fight from the second film would make the list

Re: John Wick... Yeah, how to pick which one? Maybe a professional is not included in the list of amateurs?! (Lol... But, kinda not really joking!)

alledgedly saying..."if you can't do it as fast as Val Kilmer did in Heat, maybe this Army unit is not for you"

I'm here from wrath of man.

The fact that they actually changed magazines is proof of the realism, compared to submachine guns with seemingly 1000 round magazines, LOL. The North Hollywood shootout occurred a couple years after this film, and of course there was grumbling that the real robbers in 1997 had studied this film as sort of training. There might have actually been correlation because if it was known that the police actors trained with real cops, the tactics would have been similar as far as roadblocks, etc. Not to mention, the film showed how outgunned the movie cops were, and it would have been common knowledge that in real life L.A.P.D. circa 1997, not much had changed. Both robbers in real life never finished the day alive, so we will never really know how much or little, or if at all, they gleaned from 'Heat' but I lived in L.A. at that time, and I do recall them mentioning in the aftermath and investigation that a VHS copy of 'Heat' was found at one of the several locations the robbers owned or rented.

Well said brother

Best car chase for me is Raid 2's car chasr

100% agreed with all you said.

The seven ups

I like the car chase in The Town.

Cj Childerz Yes great team work

That was a good movie, and that final shoot out was something else! Thank You for reminding Me about that movie

I commented the same, before reading below. Damn amazing film.

The Way of the Gun might be my favourite movie that everyone else hates. Yes, it's a mess; yes, it's turgid and pretentious. But my God does it have some terrific performances. And I absolutely adore the soundtrack.

I took a minute to read through the comments before expressing my love for this movie's final gun fight. It's not Heat but man it was incredible.

The one problem with the Heat scene... They never reload!

@@Greippi10 watch the scene again....Kilmer und Pacino definitely reload

@@Greippi10 they reload constantly. Maybe actually watch the movie

Watch the uncut version of the Wild Bunch, mind boggling Blood and carnage. You might change your mind.

@@johngialanellajr8650 I own the directors cut of the Wild Bunch and yes it is great. But in my opinion, still not as good as Heat. As gritty as Peckinpah was, he still used some Hollywood audio and sound design in his shootout. For Heat, Mann uses the actual audio from the weapons on the streets of LA. He tried to use various sound effects to make it more "Hollywood" but said nothing came close to the terror of the actual sounds on the street. Most firearms scenes in movies, even the good ones get so much basic stuff wrong. Sounds that guns make, reloading drills, basic weapons handling, etc. Most Hollywood movies are just that, pure Hollywood. Heat is the exception, because it is the actual audio from the shooting scenes. So what you wind up with is dudes firing real guns, with real muzzle flash, real audio and using real weapons tactics and drills. Not sure one can find that combination in a single other movie. Additionally, all the guys had to train for several weeks with Spec Ops operators (not a common practice then). If you watch the movie closely, no one ever flags anyone with a muzzle, trigger discipline is present. Even minor errors like guns being in-battery or out-of-battery when they should be are not present. I can think of several movies that were ruined for me because the hammer isn't cocked after a shot on a 1911 or the bolt is locked open on an AR just before a shootout. Heat gets the major and minor details right. Just watch the reaction videos of true military operators breaking down HEAT. All of them agree the attention to detail and accuracy are pretty well unparalleled in cinema. I mean c'mon, Pacino uses flash-sight shooting technique to brain Sizemore's character. Who else get's down into that kind of minutiae? Just good stuff! The only thing I dispute is Pacino's character having that customized FNC-80. That's a pretty rare weapon, doubtful anyone in the LAPD would have one of those. But Mann has always liked using a variety of obscure firearms in movies. Heat also features a Star MegaStar, , a Steyr TMP, and Israeli Galil ARM. Ok sorry, I\ll quit gun nerding on you now.

RandomTXDude210 Heat's shootout sticks out to me after sooo long. It's an awesome, pounding experience. I remember when I had a 5.1 surround system and no neighbours years back - nearly deafened myself once just watching that scene...

RandomTXDude210 lol @ calling 5.56mm "high powered". But, yeah, I totally agree. It's funny how people who have never been around guns never realize just how damn loud the things are. Even "silencers" only bring the dBs down by a few dozen, still loud enough to clearly hear at distance.

Grindstone Well, compared to a 500 Nitro Express, the 5.56 isn't much, but it's definitely a high powered round. There's a reason it's the NATO standard, among others. But, yeah, the movies make silencers something magical. Really what they're great at is masking the location of the round being fired.

RandomTXDude210 No, compared to 7.62x51mm, an intermediate round, which the 5.56mm replaced as the main rifle round, it still isn't a high powered round. Nobody considers 5.56mm "high powered". It's "high velocity". The reason it's NATO standard is because of a mix of politics and capacity. You can carry more 5.56mm than you can 7.62mm.

Grindstone You're not entirely wrong. Just depends what qualifiers you're using to determine power. I'll find you plenty of people that think anything .308, or larger, being high-powered. Which a 5.56 isn't, true. So to prevent devolving into an argument about ballistics v. usability, I'll just agree with you. Though I will point out that the FN was a 7.62, and it's possible the Galil was as well. But that raises the issue that gets me about the movie - you'd think a group of robbers that well trained and "professional" would all be carrying the same rifle, or at least ones with shareable magazines in anticipation of a firefight. But it's Hollywood, and they got so much else right, they can have that one without me bitching about it online.

Heard about that as well... As well as they exampled Kilmers reloading skills where you as a professional ought to be at least just as fast

The sniper scene from Hurt Locker, got more tense as the one from Metal Jacket.

Well said

This was made before that

@@breelyant215 and it's a strong #1 runner

cinefix covered the shootout in Sicario in '1 Brilliant Moment of Tension'

Me too ,watched it 11 times at least, world war z and I am legend also my favourite.

I agree 100%. If they do a redux of this list, that shootout should be mentioned.

I agree 100%. If they do a redux of this list, it should be mentioned.

Most definitely agree.!

I think "Wind River" would have to make a list of "Best Slow Burn Thriller Movies of all Time". Taylor Sheridan, the writer, should be seen as a national treasure for the films he's given us in the last few years. (Wind River, Hell Or High Water, Sicario)

So good I actually bought the Marlin guide gun, 45-70.

Haha! Thanks!

+CineFix at number 9 can please tell me the name of the song

I agree with the 2nd choice with "The Wild Bunch". The shootout in that movie was not only a realistic look at the way advanced weapons affected combat, but it was also an allegory for the shit that was going on in Vietnam and the people who were most effected by the violence. Industrywise, along with the previously released "Bonnie and Clyde", the film changed the way violence is depicted in movies regardless of genre.

+Frank Branca i agree with number 1 but i really think "THE WAY OF THE GUN" final shootout was awesome & should be on this list

That's the only one I strongly disagree with.

+100!

I was thinking the same thing the whole time I was watching this.

Right on.

Yep. That's the one I was thinking was missing.

plumlogan - I agree as well, definitely should be on the list. I think the movie as a whole is extremely underrated. But I do have to nitpick slightly with your "finale is so realistic" statement. Most of the movie is refreshingly realistic (by Hollywood standards, at least), intentionally done so by the director (who had a retired Navy SEAL work as an adviser/choreographer for the action scenes). But the director intentionally abandoned that realism for some parts of the finale as a tribute of sorts to the old Westerns. So if you pay close attention, you'll notice some examples of unrealistically long gun bursts from the "bad guys" and from the 1911s of the protagonists (whose names are never mentioned in the movie, but as another "hat tip" to the Westerns are credited as Parker and Longabaugh - the supposed real names of Butch Cassidy and the Sundance Kid). (/nitpick). TL;DR - Agreed - Awesome movie, should be on the list, and has relatively accurate shootouts, except for intentional inaccuracies in finale.

Good choice!

In my opinion, that scene (LA Con) was waaaay better than the ones covered in this video

YES!

"This ain't Dodge City... and you ain't Bill Hickock."

@@ryanellis5902 I said I never had much use for one. I never said I didn't know how to use it. Fucking BRILLIANT parting line.

@@jfangm Absolutely! This film never gets old.. I always liked that it took place right around the time that metal cartridges were starting to become a thing, but cap and ball was still the norm.

@@ryanellis5902 I always loved how you see him pulling rounds from his belt and slowly running out.

@@jfangm Yes! Amazing attention to detail!

Full metal jacket And John wick movies had some nice ones

Agreed! And can't wait for #2!!

Church scene from Kingsman should also be on the next list!

Maybe a video like this takes its sweet time to put together? Maybe the people doing it hadn't been so recently to the movies, especially since John Wick flew in under everyones radar in the beginning (as I understand it). Maybe they toiled with the work of compiling the list, rooting out favorites by vote, starting with a shitload of good shootouts, slowly narrowing it down to the ones we get here. Loading it up, going back to their social lives, a short while after maybe getting to the multiplex for a bit relaxation. Maybe by then John Wick wasn't even playing any more? I missed it on cinema due to the fact that I was on a loong trip abroad, had millions of every-day-things to catch up to when back at home (incl BACK to WORK) and missed it. Had to rent it on iTunes, then bought it when it was released. When I first saw it must've been at least 6 months after the premiere. Sorry about the rant, but I was really disappointed that I missed it in theaters, because I've heard about it from Schmoes and Chris Stuckman AND Jeremy Jahns and wanted to see it on the big screen with the big sound! To add insult to injury: in Sweden, where I live, the goverment rised the tax on entertainment from 6% to 25%! That's a VERY big slice of the ticket fare that doesn't go to the distributer. So smaller films might not get to our market. Not that I consider John Wick: Chapter 2 a small film. HOWEVER. Before this taxthing was anounced, JWC2 was marketed to premiere Feb 10, when looking for upcoming films. Afterwards: it dropped off. It will NOT be shown in Swedish theaters. Can you believe my cosmic bad luck!? I have to wait for ages AGAIN, to get it on iTunes or buying it on DVD. And this was one of my most anticipated films of 2017...

Walter Roberts It was very good, but I still think HEAT is deserving of number 1

Oh. I would give Heat #1 for its realism. John Wick was more of gun-slaughter as BALLET!

Truly.

too heavily edited tho. I know its to poke fun at too much cuts in action films but still doesn't change the fact that its painful to watch

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Way of the Gun has a brilliant shootout

For the greater good...

And something from "Replacement Killers".

How about the Wild Bunch final shootout in the courtyard?

Can you believe they actually thought they could do sound better in studio. While filming the shootout I’d have known right then

There are simply too many to include here. It is only 10 spots after all. However a duel is not exactly a shootout, I think. As awesome as they look they should have been left out. I would have made a different video just for duels. Also check the shootout from "The way of the gun".

+cisco B Amen. The last fight scene had awesome gun handling and fighting in it. The move should've at least gotten a mention in this list.

+cisco B Yes

Hell yeah. That movie is super underrated.

+cisco B When DelToro is in the whorehouse and opens up with that 7.62 Galil... HOLY SHIT! That's a thing of beauty.

that the movie to test a home theater out with. I plan on watching it soon haven't seen it in a few.

That's the first movive I played on my 86" TV...well, first R rated movie! LOL

jim treebob mine's too

After watching it, watch the parody, which is the opening scene in "Naked Gun 33 1/3"

Taxi driver was a great film indeed the shootout was very realalistic im guessing all that blood and everything, but I think the music was the best and most haunting part of that film, Bobby at his best,

For me when Bickle puts the knife through the guy's hand, and as the cops enter the room, that overhead shot of the carnage, and finally, De Niro lifting his hand which is dripping blood and putting his finger to his head and pulling the trigger.

Ice Vice all great!

+Vice Victhor far away from this selection, anyway

In amount and quality of shootouts are one of top once. Maybe just yet not known, underrated or forgotten. ...

+Vice Victhor commando

+Vice Victhor Check out "The Way of the Gun" Low budget filmed mostly in Salt Lake City. I also have to go with the fimal fight in "The Magnificent Seven"

Wasn’t heat used as some kind of FBI training?

@@theamazingspiderwuss4236 Director Michael Mann said in an interview that Val Kilmer's reload scene was used at Ft. Bragg. I thought that was crazy!

@@allthingsbegin Apparently they were trained by Andy McNab and Mick Gould ex SAS operators

Not even close. After boot camp, FMJ completely falls apart. The sniper scene is laughably tacky.

The sniper battle in enemy at the gates. With Jude Law and Ed Harris in a game of cat and mouse

@@07foxmulder I want to triple like this comment.

I talked to a Marine who was at Hue-- he said his squad would solved the problem in 5 minutes because his squad did it, multiple times.

@Pierre LeDouche Mythbusters worked this one. Their results were while the round won't go straight through a scope, it's deflection is too little to matter and, light flashing off of a scope is a pretty good reflex targeting index.

Jan Negrey exactly so underrated

FolkLordll ikr

+FolkLordll Watch Mojo would've been talking over that silent Sean Bean shootout.

+ FolkLordll Mojo doesn't pick what they have, its a community poll.

+thentantt True but that's reflected in the narrative, you can tell they don't know/care what they're talking about, often pronouncing things wrong, getting facts wrong, etc. You can tell cinefix loves cinema.

It came out like 30 days before this list was published. It was too new.

John wick is king

Bins Wanger and wick was good for the same reason that heat was. they set out to make it authentic, not just exciting

Somehow a guy with puppy issues doesn't ring up there with me on the complexities of the protagonists of Mann's Heat.

People actually believe John Wick was authentic... lmao.

Matthew Sacca agreed where is this not a single mention!

I love how they handle the guns in that movie. So awesome, ripping through the tiny walls with a couple mags from the rifle, while buddy mans the pump. Also they couldn't consider it cause it wasn't made, but John wicks shoot outs are all great. I really liked the night club scene in particular, but the whole movie is great. It's gonna be hard for the second one to surpass the first.

ABSOLUTELY!! That movie was so technically well done the whole way through and especially the final scene. Definitely should be at least #2.

counterproof my favorite snub from this list.

Indeed it had awesome realistic shootouts

counterproof+ love WotG . "so ,who's the brains of this operation " ..... " I wouldn't calls this a " brains " operation " . By the way word is that Ryan Phillepe din't pull his punch quite enough and knocked Sarah Silverman cold in the opening scene

David Fortier Copland was underrated.

Oh hell yes. I forgot about that scene until I read your comment. Brilliant shootout.

Yeah - really good and Stallone really sold that part - great film.

Heat is at the top

+Yes Sir! lmao

the shootout at the end

EssentialPedagogy oh dear..

CineFix Consider yourself lucky. :D

CineFix Apparently you.... dodged a bullet.

dam right. I had the same thing in my head

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Brother Nkosi i Agree Totally with every word

I agree and 2 would be on any shootout list. But to not have The Way of the Gun final shootout is a crime. That is top 5 for sure. The list isnt worthy to me.

Facts. That final shootout is one of the best hands down in action movie history. Any list that doesnt have it I discredit the list.

Absolutely. Heat, Way of the gun, and every Michael Mann movie from Public Enemies to Miami Vice.

This was made in 2014

+hellcat2449 And The Magnificent Seven came out in 1960. What's your point?

Nicholas Ntaganda I was thinking of the remake my bad

+hellcat2449 Oh okay, I see

The action in the new one is quite good.

Especially when all 4 men make peace with their decision and just say, let’s go get our boy back. God I love it.

I was surprised the Way of the Gun wasn't even mentioned.

"...this ...is ...from .....Ma-til-da..."

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agreed

Massively overlooked and underrated movie.

Glad someone mentioned it. Deserves at least an honorable mention, both for the kidnapping scene and for the final shootout.

i thought of that one too

For sure. GREAT final shootout.

Camille Morgan Amazing shootout.

Agreed

Camille Morgan good point

'Where's the shootout at The Victory Motel from L.A. Confidential?' - Good one for sure.

HAHAHAHAHAHA maybe that should be next :P

I would say for a few dollars more the tension the music out of three amazing actors only Eastwood left

The Shootists John

That bugged me too...

I met him a couple times. True hero.

That would've been an honor. What was he like?

Jon Locke very humble

I saw a program on The History Channel, that was about famous snipers. He was one of the snipers profiled. He was an O.G. badass!

777, the bad guys never had automatic weapons (more Hollywood nonsense) but it was filmed at the actual location of the gunfight. Hollywood should learn (and people should be aware) that the human body can sustain a hell of a lot of damage before it shuts down. Remember Taken? Liam Neeson shoots 6 guys only once and they all fall like a sack of sand and lie still. 1 guy he shoots was running up the stairs and 1 shot in the back from his 9 mm Berretta dropped him cold. Never happen.

In Church shootout

+mixflip Thought the same thing. "Somebody's coming up. Somebody serious."

+mixflip Both are shown as honorable mentions, losing out to the Matrix corridor fight.

*Equlibrium.

The last bank robbery scene of the long riders is very very memorable.Ithink it was quite unique with the slow motion and details.....................

The Professional for sure.

Also, did he pronounce it "Hatchcock"? Maybe I heard him wrong, but I didn't feel like backing up to verify it.

@@tannhauser7584 I heard "Hatchcock, " also.

Couldn't agree more I was waiting for way of the gun right up until the top three. I love that scene.

Micheal Brandenburg Was waiting for Way of the Gun as well. A bit disappointed.

I was also waiting for way of the gun. Good least anyhow, just a bit gutted that was not mentioned.

Sin Kimishima What about the final shootout in the kingdom, or public enemies, or the town? all great gun battles

There is one that is better: The tea house shootout from "Hard boiled"

DBZaniack247 well you had to wait until the very end since its then best shootout of all time

HEAT is actually is (or was) used as curriculum for how to make a tactical retreat under fire. It's that good.

Word up cuh

Heat was so ridiculously good that bank robbers reenacted it for real two years later.

2nd that! Is mine most fav cops n robbers shootout

Lol same here am doing the same thing buddy