[Zee / Tom / Sam] Macao / Blue Moon / Cosmic Encounter Time's Up / Cuba (and all "cube-pushers") / 7 Wonders The Princes of Machu Picchu / Thurn and Taxis / Zombicide Junta / Loopin' Louie / Dominion Innovation / Dungeon Lords / Thebes Genoa / Zombie games / Lost Cities Agricola: ACGAS / Princes of Florence / Settlers of Catan Agricola / Eclipse / Eclipse Tigris & Euphrates / Claustrophobia / Agricola #1 - Galaxy Trucker / Age of Steam / Puerto Rico

6:14 9:57 12:33 15:50 19:47 24:20 28:21 30:40 38:03 44:23 For the lists

10.-Macao, blue moon & Cosmic Encounter 9.-Cuba, 7 wonders & Times up 8.-Zombicide, Thurns and Taxis & Princes of Machu Pichu 7.-Dominion, Junta & Looping Louie 6.-Thebes, Innovation, Dungeon Lords 5.-Lost cities, Genoa, Zombie games 4.-settlers of catan, agricola: all creatures great and small & Princes of florence 3.-eclipse, agricola & eclipse 2.-agricola, tigris & euphrates & claustrophobia 1.-Galaxy Trucker, Puerto Rico & age of steam

I love the gradual escalation. It's like all the hype collected in one place to crash in a tsunami and it was glorious.

You guys really need to do a list like this again. This kind of stuff is beyond entertaining for me!

I keep coming back to this video whenever I feel a touch low. Really picks me up :)

As a Zee fan, this is Sam at his best. Charismatic and not pandering.

Sam cracks me up with the way he says: "...with my SCOPE!!" LOL! 10:28

This is my favourite episode. So funny to watch them rage.

So many games have come out since this list. It would be fun to see them redo some of the older lists now that there's thousands of more games.

I think this is one of the best or best of the top10 lists. Also it is amusing how most games by Zee and Sam are something Tom seems to like :).

I get the feeling people in these comments are confusing overrated with bad.

I sense a lot of gamers with bunched up panties because their favorites are getting trashed by these three guys. I say get over it. It's a subjective list. It's THEIR opinion. You don't need to agree with them. I don't necessarily agree with this list. But it's fun to see how others feel about these games.

How about a "Most Over-Priced-Games"?

the guy in a blue polo Nike shirt is hands down one of the most amiable people I have ever seen.

I was so happy to see 24:45! I can't agree more about Settlers of Catan. That game is mediocre and I am tired of hearing about how fantastic it is. I have a few board game friends who play that game far too often at the expense of trying new things.

I just love Sam's rant during the Agricola part. XD

How DARE you bad mouth Puerto Rico!!!

more than 10 years later and still one of my favourite videos on this channel

This video got me curious about boardgames and ultimately got me into the hobby. love to revisit it every now and then.

"You should be smacked nun style with the ruler" -Sam. This is AWESOME!

One word: Munchkin.

This video continues to amaze me every time I watch it. A true classic.

20:40... If only Tom had known the exact same thing would happen with the Cthulhu mythos. Every freaking game and expansion and re-print and Kickstarter.... Put Cthulhu in it and it will sell. It's this year's zombies theme. It's ridiculous.

Cards Against Humanity is a funny game ... the first 15 minutes you play.

Apparently Sam doesn't understand Zombicide... he says if you have a scope, you should be able to shoot zombies and not survivors. Um, that IS one of the rules: if you draw a scope you can equip it to your rifle. Now you can be selective of targets. Derp!

31.03.2017 came back to this video AGAIN! The best video ever :)

They should really do more live episodes.

My overrated game is Codenames. People rave about it and it gets brought out all of the time but I just don't get what the excitement is all about. I just don't find it fun

This video was a lot of fun to watch. Really enjoyed it and had loads of laughs even though I can count on one hand the number of board games known to me.

This is by far you're absolutely best top 10 video, and most entertaining. I can't stop watching it.

Only one I strongly disagree with these guys on is Clasutrophobia. Man, that is one excellent game. His main issue seems to be with the theme, which I suppose is legitimate, but man that game can get really tense.

The was the best Top Ten ever made! Love how brutal they all were! More Top Tens like this one!!

I think only Sam listed hyped games.

Started watching your videos recently, have to say that i have very much enjoyed the content, i was first a bit sad it was just 3 people in front of a camera , but the synergy you guys have is just too amazing to not watch. Also liked the part when Sam said Cosmic encounters ( my favorite game to date ) you guys got up and were like OH HELL NO make me laugh so hard :D . For short : Keep up the good job guys , and i'll watching your videos + Tabletop to help my boardgame collection grow.

Cosmic Encounter... a negotiation game. Um... In 4 decades of playing, I think I've seen 3 negotiations, period.

I'd say Catan is underrated right now. It's the popular thing now to hate on the game. But it's very well designed and is a rare euro game where you can greatly affect the other players. Plus it's simple. Anyone that says they have a better game than Catan that game will be far more complex. Complexity doesn't necessarily make a game good.

I need the uncensored version of this video.

The Lords of Waterdeep agrument was incredible : "you push the cubes" .... half of the Euro games are with cubes!

And of course everyone realises, that if a game is overrated, it doesn't necessarily mean it's a bad game, could be bad for some people, but overrated basically means it gets more credit than it deserves. And even though I like Dominion, it's an OK game, I feel it's hugely overrated. But it's just subjective opinion.

I love Zee angrily "And that's number TEN!!" And you know there are a ton of people getting all kinds of worked up because these guys' opinions are not matching theirs LOL

"I'm into sheep." - Zee Garcia

Great video, good to see them being honest and not sucking up. Some I disagree with, my main turn off is if you have to read the instructions still after 5 plays then its too complicated

The good thing about Loopin Louie is that you can play it even if you are very, very drunk. When people have gotten too drunk for other games, pull out Loopin Louie. It it simple as fuck, yet surprisingly dexterity-skillbased.

i think dead of winter and eldritch horror are totally overrated... just my opinion...

Sam is the man. Sam actually understood what "overrated" meant.

People will kill me, but Pandemic would top my list so very hard. I own a copy of the game, but try as I might to make the game exciting, the response to it has always been mixed at best. After playing Forbidden Island by the same designer, this game feels very lacking compared to it, and I have a problem with that stupid rule where you can only exchange cards if you and the partner are in that exact city at the same time. And then there's the ending - the Sopranos of the Board Game World, if you will - even Forbidden Island had you leaping on to a helicopter as the island around you collapses, which made you feel like a badass! This game? Makes you feel like you didn't accomplish anything, really. Like, "That's it?" Sorry, folks. Respect if you love Pandemic, it's a quality game, I'm sure, but I simply do not see how this game topped people's 'Best of" lists two years ago. MANY games are much better than this.

I don't really like Settlers of Catan, but I don't think it's overrated. I think it's just more common because so many copies are produced so it shows up on shelves of stores that don't typically sell heavyweight games, like Target. It's more commercialized and well known, not overrated.

Ten times I've watched this list (still love it) and finally I get the glue-comment about Lost Cities! :-D

Wait, have I played zombicide wrong? I thought that a scope on a rifle makes it a sniper rifle and allows you to choose your targets so you don't hit a survivor first.

5th time watching, still laughing at all the funny moments, you guys kill me and would love to meet you in-person

Tom: "(fiddly bookkeeping) is the essence of role playing games!" No, it's the WORST PART of rpgs, and Sentinels made it the core game experience.

I think this is fun and healthy criticism, All those games are great but overrated at some degree.

I completely agree about CAH. Terrible game, not funny, not fun, boring, offensive. Anyone mentions CAH, I tell 'em straight up, "you know good games exist, right? I guess not, cuz you mentioned CAH."

For those looking for the all-up list... it is at 53:10.

Looping Louie is popular with a lot of young people in the Netherlands because they have made it into a drinking game 😂

Zee sounds like George Carlin when he's making his case against Agricola =). Having played a lot of boardgames as well (though not 3000) my pick for most over-rated game is: MUNCHKIN. /RANT START!!!! Yes it's got a decent theme and it can be mildly amusing (funny the first time, old after that) but it's a game that is completely irrelevant and more often than not based around luck. I don't understand what the point is of the game. Yes I know it's whoever hits level 10 first but the game plays such that the first 9 levels are completely irrelevant. You play with your buds and for the most part you don't really care what they do until they hit level 9. You can virtually snooze through the game to this point, and wake up when someone does. At this point it's all about ganging up on this one person and the more people that play this game at once, the more the luck factor increases and the harder it becomes to actually legitimately win. And in the process of stopping this one person others inevitably make it to level 9 too. This goes on until everyone has been or is level 9 at some point or another. And now it's all about the luck factor - drawing the right combination of cards to thwart the other players. The more players there are however the more power they will have to stop you at every turn. Nearly every game of Munchkin I have played lasted way longer than it ever should have. Just about every time I've played or have seen this game played the game has ended due to players giving up on account of begin bored with how long all this has gone on, or players teaming up and offering to assist one particular player to nab the win because they just. want. the game. to be. over with. In my opinion that's not fun, that's not winning, that's a piss poor game that's got some serious end game issues. And to top it all off you've got one of the worst rules in any game ever created: Whoever owns the game is the ultimate authority on any disputes. As I mentioned in another one of the Dice Tower vids this is the "It's My Yard" rule back from when you played tag in your friends yard and the game stopped going in his/her favor. It's a terrible game that doesn't deserve a fraction of the fame and fortune it's garnered over the years. /RANT END!

Okay, the thing is that if you're a board game fan, you have to RESPECT Catan. Maybe you don't like Catan, but it's the same way how even anime fans who don't like DBZ still have to respect it because of what it did for the medium. Personally, I think Catan is a masterpiece. Specifically, it's a masterpiece because it's simple, yet deep. I love games that take minutes to teach but have such intricate strategies that you're constantly finding new ways to play. On top of that, it's one of the reasons and board games exploded in recent years so even if you don't give it your love, it still must command your respect.

Any time I need a laugh I watch the cards against humanity bit 🤣

I wonder if the Looping Louie craze came from Board James doing a video on it around the time..

best dice tower video ever!!!

Gloomhaven.....most overrated game of all time

I love these videos. One of my favorite parts of them is the way you guys can argue without being angry at each other. Great example of arguing without fighting. Keep it up.

ALL of these videos should be live. This was FANTASTIC!! :)

My pick for most over rated game is Pandemic. I never feel like I'm actually playing anything. Because everyone knows what each character is best at and there is a clear best move each round, I don't get any input on what to do. I may as well go in the other room and make a sandwich. I don't have to be present at all for my character to be played.

DOMINION! I love that game!

Agricola I started with hating that game for those very same reasons. Was just so frustrating to forever collect food and need some of everything. However, my meta forced me to play one to many times because something snapped in me and now I LOVE the game. It's still the MOST frustrating game ever, but it's that 'striving to the apex game' that drives me to continue playing. Also, BEST two player game ever.

This video is awesome. The combination of these three personalities could entertain me every day. Thanks for your thoughts, opinions, and your humor :)

I don't think Beardy understood the rules of Dixit... Choosing two cards that are the most alike? Yes, that is how the game would work. If it were called Apples to Apples. No wonder he hates it.

Monopoly

Just watched this and loved it. The humor of Zee and Sam is awesome in front of a live audience. I love seeing how funny you guys can get when not JUST in front of a camera. It's great. You guys should cut a clip at 30:52 to about 33:49 for Agricola. I own the game and enjoy a play of it from time to time and loved Sam and Zee's comments about why it's overrated. Especially Zee's. I was crying from laughing so hard.

This was hilarious. Thank you guys. I'm slowly expanding my board game collection and your contrasting opinions are wide experience are a huge help in choosing what to get.

Now I will go buy Agricola, Eclipse, Macao, Settlers of Catan, Zombie games, Genoa. Note, If Zee hates it, it's a good game.

With my SCOPE!!!

Superb review, sat on the train laughing all the way home. Don't get me started on Agricola either...! How the heck that game gets in the top 500 hotness let alone the top 5 is beyond me!

This was your best Top Ten yet. The chemistry between you really works! Keep it up!

WH40K is easily the #1 most overrated game. It's not that it's a BAD game, it just ain't that good. People spend a fortune in time and money on that thing.

Can't believe Cards against Humanity had to be mentioned by an audience member. What a trump card piece of _________ [Pacman uncontrollably guzzling :/] ...really.... ...really...

Puerto Rico is far from being overrated. It is a great game that will still be (with full right) easily on the top 20 even a decade from now.

Thanks youtube algorithm, I was looking for this video 8 years later 😐

I WANT SHEEP, MAYBE A COW! lol :D

Zee: "I'm into shee...."

Ah, you were there! I do appreciate that people take the time to notice we shower. And I hadn't realized we were edgy. Cool!

I love the banter these guys have with each other. Despite their varying opinions, they're able to comment on how and why they agree or disagree with each other in a light-hearted way.

Settlers of Catan is overated.

overrated does not mean the game is bad lmao

I want to see a Sam special naming games like Catan but better. Or a top 10 with the three of them.

His point was perfectly valid. Galaxy Trucker, Space Alert, Dungeon Lords, and to some degree Dungeon Petz have a phase where you're setting things up and then a phase where you essentially watch the results. I actually applaud that someone was able to see and point that out.

I disagree big time on Dominion. Great game along with expansions that add endless combinations making each play basically different and certain strategies being more successful depending on what cards you have out. It's got interaction, theme is really up to you with the cards you have in play, a good player range, and a simplicity that makes it inviting for most people. I'm starting to think its popularity invites an elitist attitude. Going to keep being a great gateway game for years to come.

a top ten, 1. shouldn't be live, 2. shouldn't be 1 HOUR LONG!!

I really think Sam's attacks on the "Sacred Cows" would feel a lot more than just faux controversy if he had any actual reasons for why he thought the games were so overrated. He gives a legit reason for 7 Wonders and Zombicide, and then that's it. Compare the #1 from Zee and Tom to Sam's, and you'll notice that agree or disagree, they do give reasons for their argument. Sam just throws his hands up in the air and makes a "That's right, I said it." face. IMO, Power Grid is crazy overrated. It's a basic economy game, and all too often in the games I've played everyone sees the winner coming a turn before the game's even over, leaving the last turn as a complete snore. It's so light, and yet it's the worst kind of game to use with noobies as there's too much number crunching.

Ticket to Ride should be on the list. Talk about an RNG fest. Always fun when you can only draw routes on completely different areas on the board while 1 or 2 people luck into tons of interconnected routes and LOL their way to victory.

Arkham Horror.

Most overrated game for me is: Pandemic. Really? All you do is calculate the probabilities and hope you get the right cards. That's it. It was fun the first time, but the second and third time, you're already sick of it. Where's the game? Where's the replayability? Even after buying the expansion, it still feels the same. Then you immediately regret it. Sorry Zee, Pandemic sucks.

The person that said Dixit was overrated doesn't even know how to play the game. The game doesn't even involve someone comparing two pictures and choosing which looks closest to his.

At the #1 top of my list would DEFINITELY be "Zombies!!!", but I guess Tom *sorta* covered that with his "all zombie games" choices. I was so happy to see two people out of the agree that Puerto Rico is very overrated. I played that when it first came out and HATED it. The worker placement idea is fine; it's the implementation I hated. I despised drafting roles (e.g. "mayor"), where every action helped everybody in some way. Please, PLEASE let's play Stone Age instead... or Agricola... or Revolution!... ANY worker placement game but Puerto Rico.

this video is hilarious lol

Why is Dominion overrated? it's the game I enjoy by far the most. It has interaction, it makes you keep track of both your own and your opponents deck, it can be played with two to six players, while many games you can forget because you're 1 player short or 1 too many, it requires some planning, the games itself are fast, so if you realize you lose you don't sit through a 1 hour session of losing like so many other games, the turns are fast so there's no need to pick up your phone during the other players turns. Sam's only argument is that it's too high on some meaningless list? I'd expect a bit more flesh here.

Sam - which games are like Settlers of Catan that are better? Honestly curious - would like to look in to them. Thanks!

I feel like Loopin' Louie gained some rapid popularity is because James Rolfe in his "Board James" persona brought it back into the public eye by playing it at conventions.