Maybe a retrain is in order. Use Eye of Timeaus, search ( probably with some restriction). I can see it

Thousand Dragon: fusion monster that doesn't require the time wizard's effect. Shown in the anime nearly a dozen times to require the effect. Dark Sage: main deck monster that does require time wizard's effect. Shown in anime once. LOGIC!

no it should require either your opponent to succeed on a time wizard or you to fail. that way it is treated as a safety net if your own fails.

@@dannybeane2069 Considering that Joey used Fusion Monsters without Fusion Summoning them (Flame Swordsman & Giltia the D. Knight), there was a lot of nonsense the anime and even the manga screwed with compared to the main game.

@@dannybeane2069 in the anime Yugi wasn't the one to use the effect of Time Wizard either, it was his opponent Joey that used and correctly called the coin toss.

Dark Sage is awesome though.

Dark Sage wasn't even a card though. It was the mechanic of the game, Time Wizard aged cards. YGO in the manga and anime was more of a DnD board game with cards, than the game Konami made based off of it. Dark Magician Knight isn't a card either, nor were the Toon's their own cards. They became Toon type. The appearances were changed just for the visuals, and they were given effects or elements based off an unseen rule book, like in DnD. Konami just made them into actual cards when making them real. For simplification, and making it work in their take on Magic and Monsters(aka YGO)

The duel never happened so Dark Sage is filler.

@@SSJvegito501 joey vs yugi duelist kingdom

@@Shadothecat yeah the duel is filler. It never happened in the manga. Joey surrenders before the duel begins.

Or they play SORL and you flip Weather Report

I-is that a real card?

@@sauceman2saucyboogaloo530 Yes, and it's awful because when people use Raigeki, they don't have monsters on their field yet. Which means it won't trigger Anti-Raigeki even if it's activated.

@@JonkoSplonko what is anti-raigeki's effect?

@@sauceman2saucyboogaloo530 If your opponent activates Raigeki, negate the effect and then destroys all monsters your opponent controls (And the destruction effect is mandatory, so, if your opponent doesn't has monsters and activates Raigeki, Anti-Raigeki won't do anything, not even negate it.) And that's common because in the modern meta, Raigeki is a going second tool to clear the opponent's board and then start your own combos and plays.

I know Zombie Dragon doesn't help the rest of the Red-Eyes, but the main deck monster and the synchro retrain are good for a zombie deck built on stealing your opponent's monsters.

and dark magician is still the better deck when you play it pure...xD

And Blue-Eyes just breathes and both the other decks just die instantly.

Blue eyes ritual decks got obliterated by standard DM deck back then when Dracosack wasn't banned

dark paladin says no!

Chain honest to its effect and you can win the game lol

Technically you could do it in one with 'A Wild Monster Appears'

Really can't imagine why they felt its anime effect was overpowered and had to be nerfed. In the anime, it re-summoned Flame Swordsman and Dark Magician upon removing itself. It would still not be very exciting (still has all its other problems, and the effect's weaker or may not even work at all if you used a fusion sub thus have no Flame Swordsman in the GY), but at least it would be somewhat usable.

@@josephn1180 the dark sage attacked! It was super effective!

Those would be plot armor cards, because you need anime protagonist plot armor to be able to use them.

I mean... Das some good anime material. Kids gotta have something to watch

@@indumatipngtuber2790 But why aren't they made more playable in translation?

@@GordieKat well, some of those cards just got the same effect than the anime effect, it makes them really bad but at least there still a logic behind that

Yeah but you can't make dark magician top tier, because then Konami would have to start banning or limiting cards in the archetype. Something that would extremely hurt them because dark magician is very popular

Sadly that is only partly right, the actual effect in the movie states that the Spellcaster monsters that are in the grave. Had to be sent to the field to the grave, this I believe was stated in the Japanese version and if it wasn't it was later confirmed on the Wikia. Especially considering the fact that with only around 10 cards left and 30 odd in grave, the chances of Yugi having more then 3 Spellcasters was actually pretty high. As such that effect would have only been slightly better, because you can't send cards from deck to grave with stuff like Foolish Burial or even from Hand to grave. So it would only make it slightly better, unless of course they fixed it to being exactly what you said.

Yeah, at the time of his release that effect would've been a colossal nightmare to fight since Beatsticks were still pretty relevant. Having 4 or more spellcasters in the graveyard would be a free Slifer without the enormous pain of bringing that God Monster out. That being said with many archtypes (like the Sacred Beasts) gaining cards that give them their overpowered anime effects to keep up with Power Creep, I'd say a Magic or Trap card that gives Sorcerer of Dark Magic his attack point crippler effect a not to far-fetched idea.

Konami is scared of Anime effects lol.

If Sorcerer of Dark Magic had been given that effect or a once per turn effect to choose a spellcaster in the graveyard and reduce an opponents monsters by half of the attack of the selected monster that also could've made it a little better plus if it would've been destroyed by battle or card effect you card banish a spellcaster from your hand or graveyard instead

Well the didn't give Blue-Eyes Shining it's "Nova" effect either which is a shame because that effect could actually be very useful nowadays That's the problem of bringing Anime-exclusive cards to the real game, you'll need to balance between keeping the cards faithful to the Anime ones and ensurering they don't break the game itself (specially back in the day when both Blue-Eyes Shining Dragon and Sorcerer of Dark Magic came out)

Not every top 10...... on the Top 10 Best something lists, he starts with the worst card on the list. :)

Best List ---------------Worst List 10 worst card--------10 best card 9 better than 10-----9 2nd best card 8 better than 9-------8 3rd best card

Lol he doesn't even say magician's defense works with magical hats

Me too

I was one of the few Madmen who hit King of Games with that combo lol

Wait so you are telling me someone ran a dark magician with time wizard in a sartorious deck? And then got them on the field together? Wtf type deck is he running the barrel dragon or dark magician

I saw this going up against my stall deck lol if i had been using any other of my decks im sure i would have lost

YouZettaSonsOfDigits That’s because his real name is “Elf Swordsman.”

You should try Obnoxious Celtic Guardian with Power Of The Guardians, can't be destroyed by battle with monsters that have more than 1900 atk+ destruction protection via spell counters+ potential atk/def gain every turn. Such a nifty combo for only two cards.

Celtic Guardian should have gotten more love.

Always loved Celtic Guardian.

imagine a toon celtic guardian! also I want a celtic archetype with a princess (zelda) and maybe a destroyer/evil king (ganondork)

They both cute

I run her at 3 she's great support

@@OzziePerez1988 yeah, doubt.

I think she's a card that deserves a retrain. If for no other reason than for fanservice. Call her Valkyria Magician Girl.

Silent Magician Best Girl

Hardleg can you do a deck build challenge manga battle city style with JCD?

1. Ally Mind. A level 5 Vanilla Tuner that only exists because LORE!

Emissary from Pandemonium. Too high a level for a tuner + can't be special summoned

Fuckin' Lifestream dragon, why is it a tuner? If Konami doesn't want to let it have the anime effect because it is too good, then why keep its status as Tuner?

@@CrnaStrela Well that did help it out in the long run because NEEDLEFIBER!

Pankratops isn’t searchable in a Dark Magician Deck unlike Knight’s Title. At the very least, Knight doesn’t have to tribute himself.

@@brianaguilar8283 valid points, but after he pops a card, Knight does a whole lotta nothing

Brenneko Kapazioni he’s a beatstick? Being a warrior at least gives him access to good support as well.

@@brianaguilar8283 no don't defend this thing, it's awful even for the time it came out in and even with the searchable spell. You can't play him in either a warrior deck and you really don't want it in a DM deck because again, it doesn't benefit from any of the other DM cards

Alonso Ar I’ll defend it if I fucking want to. And I’m not saying it’s a good card. Just comparing it to another card that OP mentioned.

Honestly if it also had an effect that said it was also treated as a spellcaster while in the hand/field/deck/graveyard ( i know thats alot but its already a bad card gta give it something lol) it might see some gimmicky success.

Of course it also really needs to be considered "Dark Magician" in the same situation but i think they purposely left that off the card. Then again if that card came out with the recent wave of support it might have had good effects and be able to be cheated onto the field somehow.

The Pillager, giant flood, spell books inside the pot, call the Living Dead underworld Circle, burning soul, extra Fusion, magicians archive, snow fairy, Darkness outsider, big bang blow, learning elf, level jar, draw slime, all boss duel monsters, illusion gate, xyz treasure, Fusion birth, time Fusion, blasting vein, cards of spell containment, card of burial Magic, nibelung treasure, quick Rush, Drawber, Heaven's Lost Property, card of variation, fire whip, Card Exchange, berserk mode, wing requital, card of compensation, card of desperation, XYZ treasure ticket, roll of fate, Water of Life, performMage hurricane, numbers eville, akashic record, magical pendulum box, hell gift graveyard rebound, card Hexative, deepest impact, death eruption, past life, turn jump, spell transfer, energy drain, instant freeze, Spirit foresight, white night forts, spell Sanctuary, ivyvine Castle, sea of rebirth, Ebon Sun, prominence, sphere field, all boss dual traps, curse transfer, Talisman of reversal, life shaver, Power Balance, shining Reborn, forceful deal, freezing dance, deck destruction virus the continuous trap, and, beasts board metal of the Crimson chain that's the anime banlist from Yu-Gi-Oh Pro Percy 1 there are some cards I probably missed because they are not on my system but feel free to choose any 10 of these cards and you can make him lists out of that. Or you can watch jcd Gatto for a much more digestible list.

In the anime, at least. It was released originally as a purchase bonus for buying the Japanese versions of what we in America know as "The Sacred Cards" back in July of 2002. As stated elsewhere in the chat, the first true Fusion Monster with that distinction was Rare Fish, released in 1999. However, Dragon Master Knight does have the distinction of requiring a Fusion Monster and a Ritual Monster, which at the time, were the two only alternate summoning types in the game.

There aren't many, unfortunately.

The dark magician Volkswagen is really bad tbh

Honorable mentions: Dark Magician Girl, Thousand Knives, The Eye of Timeaus 10. Dark Magic Expanded 9. Dark Magic Attack 8. Illusion Magic 7. Dark Burning Magic 6. Apprentice Illusion Magician 5. Magician Navigation 4. Bond Between Teacher and Student 2. Dark Magical Circle 1. Eternal Soul At lest this is how I view it, hope that satiates you for the time being

@@mageside The actual tier list is 1. Eternal Soul 2. Circle 3. DM the Dragon Knight 4. Rod 5. Navigation 6. Illusion Magic 7. Apprentice Illusion 8. Magician of Dark Illusion 9. Ebon Illusion 10. Robe Bond and Burning Magic are really hard to get an actual wincon out of, while just spamming Dragon Knight and XYZs actually kinda works

Thousand Knives is a little lackluster but Dark Magic Attack is really good. Also Robe is underrated.

I can’t blame you Though the MD summon animation really flaunts it

Venominaga would be in the top 10 easily. Give a card with its effect to a good deck, and it gets banned outright.

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@@therapperbrazilian Not every nomi monster has bad requirements since monsters like Plasma and Light Ruler are not much of a hassle to summon.

@@brianaguilar8283 Chaos Goddess

What about Fortress Whale?

Cuchulainn the awakened

@@marvelhunter300 Javelin Beetle

That ritual monster who only have 1950 atk (forgot the name)

@@criesinpoor1725 Performance of Swords, you mean.

You're right. It did predate Dark Flare Knight. Also, props for dredging that from the depths of memory. I'be mostly never thought much about the major or LOB and MRD fusions

@@DARobin-iv4tp both fusionist and rare fish used to be pretty good instant fusion targets.

WTF were they smoking that they thought that was a good call.

TCG release date was after

Rhyseyr haha same. I had it when I was really young and didn’t know anything about Yu-Gi-Oh!, but I just thought it was the coolest card

Be was so handsome to me lmao, and Valkyria still the prettiest to meee

Indeed.

Which others do you run? Chocolate? Apple? Kiwi? Lemon? I just got back into the game and have some of the old movie cards.

Wait

@Charmiskit it is a terrible card. It was designed to be anime moment inducing/memeish/just a casual use, for fun card. Not Spirit and MAX.

Oh Rare Fish yeah I use that in my Number C73/C101 Turbo deck

Charmiskit you know that’s just a meme card right? It’s meant to create a scenario where you’d say “did you just summon a bunch of monsters in one turn?”

You’re right. Rare Fish is the first fusion monster to require a fusion monster as material.

Yeah, but their support is far better, although there are some cards that are pretty bad, like blue eyes shining dragon.

It kinda makes sense as in Japan it's not called DarK Magician but Black Magician

Very true

Or you could use dian keto

Just a 1000 lifepoint boost card if used that way. And one that's usage is very circumstantial. Plenty of cards that give far more life points easily whilst also providing other beneficial effects like that trap card that negates a attack and heals you matching the assailants atk.

@@Chris-jw8vm draining shield, but battle traps are garbage due to the fact that Spell Trap removal is an extremely common thing. Might work at a locals or if your opponent is having a bad day, that's it though. It's why the only traps that you really run are either Archetypal, Hand Activated, or stall cards like Threatening Roar.

Unfortunately, PSCT for Mirage Knight makes him a Nomi. See the Yugi's World reprint.

Roy I used to have a spellcaster and dragon mix deck back in high school, then someone took it, eventually I got them back when I saw someone using those cards

No, jinzo is better traps cannot be even activated

Yôhānān Simeonidis Yeah. But with SoDM, you can still activate Traps, and it negates the Traps you choose to negate. Jinzo negates all of them.

@@baconcatsizzle yeah it is better only for you to let ur traps go but he cant negate some spell speed 4 traps

Just remember once per chain. So if opponent set mirror force and ring of destruction and activates them both in same chain, it's screwed like light and darkness dragon.

Royal Decree like effect

It got its own sub archetype called magician girl in 2016 if I'm not mistaken

@@Tomy_Lightning ive played with some of the cards. Doesn’t seem great but I’m also not the best player these days 😅

This is very unlikely, but since Dark Magician Girl's effect is based on Dark Magician and Magician of Black Chaos being in the graveyard, provided neither card is limited or banned, that means the highest Attack stat she can get is 5600, but ONLY if both you and your opponent have 3 Dark Magicians and 3 Magicians of Black Chaos in their graveyards. And the chances of that ever happening, is as unlikely as winning the lottery! Meaning if you're not playing a Dark Magician deck, then Dark Magician Girl is basically just a mediocre vanilla beatstick.

If Trap Cards were relevent it would be "decent", the 3200 body is not good enough for such an inconsistant -2.

@@Redpoppy80 Trap cards are still relevant. As easy as it is to bring nowadays I still wouldn’t confidently run it in a DM deck, since it easily bricks.

Only time traps are relevant, the situation would be you special summon your 2 DM monsters with navigation, then once they hit the field. They going to play a trap first before you can special summon to remove your monsters. Now you can't do what you wanted to do. A actual trap deck will stop you before you do what you want to do. Or you'll play a modern deck that doesn't use traps but maybe a few staples. (Ex impermanence or something like that)

you can oull OTK with black garden, lOl.

We are still waiting for that card

he's getting bluer and sadder every time he gets bad support cards

It's because Indigo is close to Black. The Sub name of Dark Magician explains this.

It's to differentiate the lore The purple one is yugi's dark magician; mahad Whilst the blue one is the tcg's dark magician; a stage magician that uses real magic in his shows and is related to the endymion cards That's why cards used by yugi reference the purple one whilst tcg only cards have the blue one

@@noahmartinez38 We need more red Dark Magician cards.

finally. another exodius player.

I ran exodius in my exodia based deck actually went very well when I used a few good spells and traps to stall till I got his attack high enough to take down most monsters never tried to get all 5 pieces of exodia in my hand always got them in my graveyard for necros or exodius

I know this wasn't on the list, but Dark Magic Curtain's TCG effect really disappoints me. Since in the anime, it allowed you to summon any Spellcaster type monster, where as the TCG version only lets you summon Dark Magician.

And he is meta worthy at the time I typed this comment..

1 word. Kaiju.

@@HydrusBlack The pain...

Ancient village secret village and sorcerer of black magic

@@HydrusBlack Mask of Restrict.

Secret village + Sorcerer + Dark Calvary

Her being a level 4 light monster gives her ways to be special summoned anyways. So it’s not the worst support

Minus the fact you can just destroy her or MMS with a quick card. Most equips aren't really good because they're really vulnerable. Twin Twisters is one of if not the most played cards nowadays...

You forgot Rare Fish.

TFOF Gaming my bad bro i guess that’s the one that I remember most

The sad thing is, each individual summoning mechanic could be its own format. It's just that Konami this time around is forcing players to use Links, because Yu-Gi-Oh really isn't as popular as it used to be (so naturally it's short on money), so they had to experiment with Synchros, XYZ, Pendulum, and Lunks. Though, the problem is: who the hell wants to play a glorified game of king-of-the-hill style solitaire? That's what Link summoning is.

ease of access, card advantage, matchup and tempo is todays game

Dunno what it's really like in the normal game but I use the duel links app and 1900 atk for a level 4 effect monster is still high. Off the top of my head the only level 4 cards with effects and without stupid upkeep costs with more atk have specific summoning conditions and or effects that get them over that mark. Like silent magician must be special summoned by tributing a spellcaster monster starts with 1000 atk and gains 500 atk per card in hand. Few 2000 or maybe even 2100 level 4 normal monsters with little to no defence aswell. Generally people don't really rely on level 4 or lower monsters for fighting anymore. They're generally just there to summon in more cards from the extra deck often before activating several useful effects and only really used in battle when the opponent is sure of the situation or sees a potential kill shot.

Dav 😂 😂

@@lynnmorgan5897 Yeah i think that's the joke haha

Well he is on the thumbnail

Just use Honest instead.

Use it with Honest!

Except the attack of the monster was reduced instead of boosted

completly agreed, the cost of summining him is still steep though

Jinzo though you can casually summon as it is a one tribute where as you have to jump through a hassle to get Sorcerer of Dark Magic out.

It's also amazing with fortune ladies. I use that combo in duel links.