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Ah the T-1. The ultimate argument starter among steam enthusiasts. (Not counting City of Truro vs LNER 4472.)

I'm completely with you for have 6110 and 6111 for the T1 spot. I love the engines, but it's a shame and kind of ridiculous that the prototypes worked better than the production engines; the fact that they were built during the same time as the Pennsy's first road diesels doesn't really qualify as an excuse to me.

These are "MY" top 10 favorite steam locomotives and the top 10 are as follows: 10: LMS Patriots 9: LNER J70's 8: The LNER W1 7: N&W Y6B's 6: L&N M1's 5: LMS Turbomotive 4: Southern Pacific AC-11's 3: LNER P2's 2: The LNER U1 Honorable Mentions: PRR Q2, Union Pacific Fetter Challengers, PRR Q1, PRR T1 Prototypes (6110, 6111), Southern Pacific AC-9's, Chesapeake & Ohio T1's GWR Saints, Granges & Counties, Baltimore & Ohio EM-1's 1: Southern Railway K Class 2-6-4 Tanks

Cheers I really enjoyed that, coming from the UK I will always feel that our steam was the most handsome but the US loco's were truly awesome beasts, really loving all the US steam documentaries on the tube now. looking forward to seeing part two.

A good, intelligent video... Thank you for producing it. It's rare to find an American that understands anything British... especially railway related but you definitely know your stuff.

Thanks for the show man. I love all of them lovely old iron gals!

Interesting locomotives you’ve got here on this list! Nice video dude. 👍🙂

You're not the only one who missed Mythbusters.

Sorry that I just watched the video, but is that The Engineer's Theme from TF 2 playing as the backsound? I see what you did there

Gordon was also called the "Galloping Sausage" once. Maybe they got it from the LNER W1.

the ac-9 wish they kept it on static display that would've been amazing.instead of a t1 build an ac-9

As a small boy, I remember seeing 'Turbomotive' in service in its original form - and, of course, I remember the Harrow and Wealdstone disaster. Subsequently, I saw 71000 'Duke of Gloucester' in regular service. It (or should that be 'she', despite being a Duke?) had a reputation for poor steaming. However, when it was restored, they discovered the reasons, a combination of design and manufacturing faults and rectified them. I was on a steam excursion a couple of years ago, with 71000 double heading with 60163 'Tornado', a new build replica of an LNER A1 Pacific. But then, if you're a real 'gricer', you'll know all about 'Tornado' - and you'll probably know that it topped 100miles/hr on a test run in February of this year.

1:37 Aww that was just getting good

Jim, I can safely say that, if there were ever plans to do replica/new-build projects for the N&W Y6bs, B&O EM-1s, SP AC-9s, UP Fetter Challengers, C&O T-1s, PRR J1s and Q2 Duplexes, I would be onboard with each one. We lost so many steam engines during the transition from steam to diesel locomotives. Taking inspiration from you, I may eventually do my own list of extinct classes of locomotives, but instead of 15 or 20, I might do 30 locomotives and split it up into three parts with 10 locomotives in each part. Of course, I'm gonna need Windows Movie Maker to make this project of mine work.

8:03 Gordon: "he called me a galloping sausage!" 10000: "you too?"

It's interesting everyone talking about the new T1 breaking the speed record, there's quite a bit to do before like finishing it (that's going to be a few years yet) and then there is convincing the relevant authorities to allow an attempt to take place.

If you are from the PRR T1 Trust, you can still build the new T1 #5550 and get it to the (LNER A4 #4468) Mallard’s record of 126 miles per hour. It takes time, but we support the idea of the new T1. Make it happen, especially with the New York Central J Class 4-6-4 Hudson #5300 and New York Central 4-8-4 Niagara #6600 if you get the chance after you have built the new T1. Don’t give up and do your best to keep your projects going no matter what. Keep this new T1 going and build the rails up.

This is Great good job making this vid R.I.P trains

Informative and entertaining, brilliant.

The N&W Y6B was equipped with the variable Valve plumbing, which allows them to easily switch between simple and compound layout with a lever.

I enjoy content like this

0:08 Am I hearing the song from meet the engineer and another song at the same time?

Wonderful. What song did you use between the reviews? Cheers Edit - Don't worry, I Shazamed it

The T1 is coming for the Mallard.

the song at the start was called "More Gun Version 2" by valve orchestra

I love the subs, Ellen ER made me giggle and Grizzly too. It's like reading a Chinese instruction manual. Some good info though. Thanks.

I am unsure if I should built the original PRR T-1 or the prototypes in a trackmaster form

Have you ever considered making a top 10 extinct German steam locomotives?

On the J70s, the sub-classes weren't sub -classes, they were just order numbers. The GER gave their locomotives classes based on the first order number.

Please do one about the Swiss Steam Trains!

It's 10pm in the UK and I'm bingewatching steam locomotive videos

3:27 I'm not sure if you know this already, but the smokebox door number is 45551 and the number on the cab is just 5551

if the Virginia railway and the erie and Virginian railroad has rebuilt the triplex into duplex, the can reduce into 2-8-8-2 driving wheels, while the Virginia railway triplex supposed to be 2-8-8-4 like the y6 from N&W

as a 7 year old i was in awe of the new Coronatiion passing through Crewe station, the 9 years later [apprentice then] actually worked on her, lovely memory, sadly locomotive was in war time drab black then.

Interesting, well informed, I'm impressed with your knowledge of locos from over here in the UK, and nods to UK culture, I'm off to watchpart 2 now.

Wonderful video. Thank you for making and sharing this. Were railroads so desperate for money thathey needed to scrap the last engine of its kind? They should build another locomotive rather than ugly T-1.

Fun fact: The way LNER 10000 was egineered ment that instead of being a hudson/baltic, she was a 4-6-2-2

I wish they would make an HO scale model of the T1 Prototype. All we have is the In-Production versions by Broadway Limited Imports.

The EM1s look like the simple versions of the Y6 class

I hate having to place a reply like this. In case The Gaming Rhino is watching this, Christopher Kovacs gave me permission to use that intro, and as for the SP 4460 on the thumbnail that's some stupid glitch on KZfaq's end. YT always picks an image from about the middle sa the thumbnail automatically, but I changed it to the Turbomotive, and that does show up on the PC.

you had photos of barry island scrapyard. i used to play on those loco's as a child.

You know, Man, this is a badass list of extinct steam locos from the US and the UK that you came up with and I'm surprised about the locos that you chose for your own list. But coming to your rant about the T1 Trust and what they're trying to do with their engine rebuild goal, I totally agree. I mean, why would they wanna break Mallard's record now after she was firmly cemented in railway history with her 1938 record run? I just don't see that happening, Mallard's gonna remain the World's Fastest Steam Engine and that's how it's going to stay.

what song did you use between picks?

Great stuff, where does the ‘make your bloody mind up’ come from? That’s quite a laugh to me.

nice video

22:26 anyone know where this clip is from? Also, love what you have done here mate. Sad to hear that this is your last year before retirement from youtube, but I understand your reasons, trolls don't deserve the nicer things in life. No one should have to go through the amount of abuse you and your friends have received. I hope you and your friends are OK and I hope you all do well in the future.

Spoiler alert Jim, Hornby released their new Hush Hush model this year both in its original and rebuilt forms. By the way, they look very nice except the original version the Hush Hush model is a bit lighter than rebuilt version which has a heavy chassis from front to back while the original version's front is light and back is heavy. The reason why the front of the Hush Hush's front is light is because the running board is made out of plastic and it is not ruler straight.

I was wondering, what was it like in stations like Paddington when they used steam?

I completely agree with everything at 16:48-18:12. There is no point in breaking an already done speed record.

Does anyone know where I can get more info on some of theses extinct steam locomotives besides coming from another video on extinct steam locomotives videos done by Christopher Kovacs, Rail-Ryder 713, southern flyer productions and you Jim?

The triplex had that problem but when lost weight in the tender it only made 2-8-8-2 in power

I love your voice

I would without reservation supporting breaking the steam rail record if it were done using a new build steam turbine locomotive. At least that would reflect the progress that would have been made if steam continued to be developed, and serve some purpose in demonstrating something that hasn't been seen before, and would still leave Mallard as the pinnacle of reciprocating-piston steam locomotive speed.

That wreck at 21.17 was the pilot engine, Jubilee Class 4-6-0 No 45637 Windward Islands. which took the full force of the impact. Incedently, part of 'Anne's frames were also used to repoair the culpret engine, 46242 City of Glasgow. so she donated parts to two other engines.

#18 W1. At 7:17 we are told that it was the only 4-6-4 Hudson built in the UK. However in 1950 - 1951, North British of Glasgow built more Hudsons; 70 R Class express locomotives for the Victorian Railways as the Australian company's workshops were all too busy to do the job themselves. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Victorian_Railways_R_class

Just a FYI, Wisbech is said wizz-beach. (Wis-be-ch). Enjoying the analysis too, thanks.

Like you and Mr. Kovacs I would have liked to have seen atleast one AC-9 preserved along with the Em1

Seeing the footplate video of Tornado doing 100mph and seeing how much it was dancing around, I'm not sure I want to be on a T1 flat out ....

I'm hoping part two will include GWR 47XX Class 2-8-0s. Fast freight locos. We'll see...

@22:26 where does that come from? Because I recognize the class of locomotive

I remember the steam trams working the Fish docks in Lowestoft, (10 miles south of Great yarmouth) in the 60s (My home town) as it crossed the main road to the station a man walked in front with a red flag.

Meet the (train) engineer

Where did you get that Make your Ruddy mind up scene from?

I don't understand why you hate the T1 trust. They're rebuilding a very unique and impressive locomotive from the rails up, which is an extremely difficult feat. And yet, you act like they're just a bunch of egotistical dummies from the US who are hungry for a pointless record? Yes, the record IS pointless! Which is why A: That isn't their primary goal, contrary to what you might have to say and B: You.. shouldn't care? It's literally pointless if it breaks a record. So what? The A4 will still be the winner in so many other regards, and no pride will be lost just because a larger and more capable locomotive was finally give it's chance in the limelight. The T1 have already been speculated to have traveled much faster, what's all the fuss about? Can't we just agree that the A4 is better overall, even if the T1 proves the long-standing myth about it's top speed?

An Engine as red on one side and green on the other is like looking at Two Face from DC's Batman... sort of.

why did you use team fortress 2s engineers guitarplaying in your video at 0:09?

That hush hush engine is truly bizarre looking

My dad was born in the 50s his dad is still alive they were around the e2 era my dad not so much

I totally agree with you about the steam speed record and thank you for being not only passionate about it but giving your reasons (which are absolutely correct). I hope they get the message. :) Thanks for the video.

Jim van Dee Kolk Has anyone told you that you sound like Thunderbolt Sirens 1000 Productions?

This is sad and interesting at the same time

Actually, the w1’s tender also survived and is attached to Union of South Africa.

What about the Wabash P1 Hudson's? Those look rather appealing in my opinion. Sorta like a crossbred between a UP FEF, Reading T1, and a NYC Hudson. en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabash_class_P1 en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wabash_class_P1. They were built on the Wabash's 2-8-2 mikados and semi streamlined with Elephant Ears and side panels as well as being painted in Navy Blue with a white stripe with red trimming going across the side panelling and numberplate.

I absolutely love the patriots, there design looks very elegant, especially the unrebuilt design

is the wooden box on wheels a refference to dieseld199?

Despite being an American, I recognize the J70 as the little wooden box engine from Thomas and Friends, Toby.

i wouldn't mind if they tried to take the record, as long as Britain tries to take it back. Andre chapelon did have calculations and possibly plans for a 16,000 hp 167mph locomotive, imagine an LNER A4 (2450)hp, LMS Coronations Class (3300hp), Union Pacific big-boy (6290hp), PRR T1 (6500hp), or a PRR Q2 (7978hp) modified with a double lempor or lemprex exhaust system, including all the improvements invented by andre Chapelon, Livio Dante Porta and David Wardale, EPIC. Chapelon doubled the horsepower of a 4-8-4 poorly performing locomotive to 5,500hp!!

If the trailing trucks don't receive steam, the it's a 4-6-4 "Baltic/Hudson"

Why is more gun v1 or v2 ( I can't tell) on a video about steam trains

Hey! I like compressors mounted on the front of smokeboxes. They look 'ugly fantastic' ;-)

I agree with you on the T1s, not only what you said, but the prototypes where BETTER LOOKING than the production series T1s, as the shark nose was longer, skirting covering piping and lubricaters to make the engine look neater, and there was better coloring and striping, which also made the handrails stand out. and, i hope the 5550 will be based on the prototype, and DEFINITELY NOT the Late T1s, which had stubby, square Sharknoses, and The Freight-locomotive style front, which made the late T1s fat, ugly freight engines than sleek streamliners.

Also The Reason why the poppet vaulve gear didnt work for the T1 because its not good for going at speeds

What makes you think t1 trust is trying to break the steam speed record? I think it is a good idea to rebuild it. I just don't think they should try to break the record.

I see (pictures of) 6-truck shays with the same arrangement as the triplexes i.e. a driving bogie under the tender. Did they have any traction proble,ms>

shame to see so many gone though I would happily start a new build project.

Would the Triplexs Count as 2-8-8-8-2T or 2-8-8-8-4T

You Forgot To Cover The Northern Pacific, Great Northern And Spokane Portland And Seattle’s Z Class (Z-6, Z-7 And Z-8) 2-6-6-4 Challengers

21:03 yesterday marked 67 years since the crash happened and a youtuber by the name of thunderbolt1000productions did a video on it. Jim if your reading this I'm not sure if your interested in it but if you are here's the link to the video and I recommend checking out some of the other videos he's done m.kzfaq.info/get/bejne/b5-Wgat4q666nKM.html

If we Americans wanted to break the steam speed record why resurrect the NYC STREAMLINED HUDSONS INSTEAD OF A HEAVY FREIGHT ENGINE THAT DIDN'T WORK!

Whats that song you used?

The W1 was actually North Eastern 10000. BR changed it to 60700

Shouldn't of they made the Hush-Hush's class after the overhaul the LNER A5? I think so.

I like how you used more gun in this video

Jim van der Kolk i miss Mythbusters too

And I hope the patriot doesn't have the belle whistle usually associated with Fowler designs, I hope it'll heave the glorious hooter whistle of the Stanier locomotives

So I heard the Speed Goal was ditched recently. It’s all about the excursion runs now.

*starts with a clip from Strasburg, PA* Me: I like this guy already :)

Superb! Like the sense of humour especially that bit when his colleague / assistant sticks that old Southern Railway billboard in front of the camera just as he mentioned the namesake words in his US railroad context! Always a good laugh where you get the ´blithering idiot’ character supposedly trying [ or wanting to make it appear so! ] to « assist « his boss in his delivery but succeeding in only making it worse! [ Like the scene in the 1945 Olivier version film Henry V where the cleric is going through a sheaf of large and complicated docs on Salic law and his idiotic « assistant » shoves any old and inevitably wrong doc in front of him…! ]. Never wears out, that scenario and shades of Benny Hill and Mr Bean....My sincere apologies for those who think this comment out of context...( and you may be right ) but I am referring to the delivery of this excellent document which is to inform, enlighten, interest, entertain and hold the attention of the viewer and my contention is that you need a good sense of humour of which the item under reference is a good example. A real and right pleasure to watch and listen to and my very best wishes go with you for your future research and endevours . On a more serious note, and perhaps sad one to all rail fans: I sometimes get a creeping item in my brain cells when watching like historic rail reviews that perhaps someone might/should/ought to introduce a new reference ratio stat indicator along with other stats concerning say historic locos that is a reference to their working life eg loco XYZ boiler pressure ´x’, ´tractive effort ‘y’ and working life ´z’ years and estimated route miles run over life, if only to bring it home to us how wasteful some of these investments were. For example, an example of a good investment might be loco or class XYZ was/were built at a total cost of ABC and covered an estimated EFG mileage over HIL years hauling trains of KLN tonnage. But perhaps am talking a load of cod’s wallop rubbish for which I bow with humble (not Uriah’s type I beg you to believe and grant me, heavens non! That’d be the very last straw!

I think the T1 trust should also make a PRR Q2