Top 20 extinct UK and US steam locomotives - Part 2 (10-1 & Honorable mentions)

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Jim van der Kolk

Күн бұрын

Continuing where we left off...

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@astromotive6047 5 жыл бұрын

As of April 5, 2019 The Saint class is no longer extinct as GWR 2999 Lady of Legend is now officially under steam at Didcot.

@Jaymehkook 2 жыл бұрын

It’s Mainly Hall

@astromotive6047 2 жыл бұрын

@@Jaymehkook Yes, but she is no longer a Hall class.

@beeurd 2 жыл бұрын

Was surprised to see the GWR Saint class here, had to check the date the video was made! Glad you mentioned the rebuild though, which is now completed. Lady of Legend is in one of the videos on my channel, along with 1501, which was showing as the thumbnail of this video when I clicked it.

@tuc-dh4df 7 жыл бұрын

Bloody enjoyed these two vids a lot! thanks Jim. One thing, the GWR 460 counties had boiler pressure of 280 pounds per square inch when first built.

@T16MGJ 4 жыл бұрын

14:00 in Jim asks "Anyone Bored Yet?"... Not me, really enjoyed that Jim. You are clearly a well researched Railway Enthusiast . Considering you're north American, impressed with your handling and presentation of UK Locomotive design. Keep up the good work.

@rail-ryder7135 4 жыл бұрын

If Lionel makes a Vision Line model of a y6b I would totally buy it.

@That_Thicc_Cat 3 жыл бұрын

I think anyone who likes big mallets would buy it

@thehaloscrolls391 5 жыл бұрын

I was kinda hoping that the Furness Railway 21/K2 “Larger Seagull” Mixed Traffic Engine would be on this list, besides it being Edward’s inspiration, it is one of the best looking Mixed Traffic Engines I have ever seen and considering when they were built it might have inspired a hell of a lot of other classes, including City Of Truro, I mean, it’s basically a K2 with one of those blocks in front of the cab

@kenbutcher3137 6 жыл бұрын

Really enjoyed the videos, Jim. Great sense of humour (really!). My suggestion for honourable mention would be the beautiful 'Brighton Baltic' tanks - the most handsome locomotives ever to grace a British railway.

@Jimboliah3985 6 жыл бұрын

I'd rather have an A4 or a Coronation. Or a King.

@T16MGJ 4 жыл бұрын

@@Jimboliah3985 Is the RIGHT answer. Top choices. My three favourites just a tad behind my all time favourite... Big Bertha herself.

@mikesanders5433 5 жыл бұрын

These two videos have been brilliant, well done lad very nicely done 😊 subbed.

@mrcrocker2638 5 жыл бұрын

It’s sad to see the magnificent locomotives be withdrawn scrapped and cut up

@thethomasdetective990 3 жыл бұрын

Agreed

@denisxx61 7 жыл бұрын

Interesting video. I was hoping to see the Virginian class AE 2-10-10-2 featured. Initially used to ram coal trains between Elmore and Algonquin over Clark's Gap. Some lasted until the early 1950's

@Thomasboi01 3 жыл бұрын

You also gave me a great idea! And great extinct steam engines video by the way.

@MachRacer4 4 жыл бұрын

The Southern Pacific GS-8’s were Cotton Belt L-1 class 4-8-4’s that were leased by the SP at the end of steam on the SP just renumbered and reclassified to match the SP numbering and classification system. And one does still exist in the form of Cotton Belt L-1 #819 in Pine Bluff, Arkansas.

@theeveningstar9235 3 жыл бұрын

Anyone heard of the LBSC L class? Lovely looking engines, built in the UK for suburban passenger service I think

@jongadsby1623 7 жыл бұрын

Love this . Am of an age to have experienced all of the UK Locos Admire your choices!!!

@T16MGJ 4 жыл бұрын

Me too Jon. On more than one occasional, schoolboy me travelling up to Birmingham from Cheltenham had my train assisted up that steep Lickey Incline by no less a celebrity locomotive than "Big Bertha" herself. Some locomotive that.

@markcf506 4 жыл бұрын

Im watching this in 2020 and i must say i enjoyed part 1 and part 2 very educational (: i love trains but big boy and challenger will always be my #1 favorite steamers !! :D

@PaintballGargoyle 3 жыл бұрын

One valve gear that interests me is always been Walscharts.. But baker and Stephenson are interesting. The most iconic I know is the B2 Rotary valve gear used on the later Penn Railroad T1’s that helped against Slip

@726berkshire 7 жыл бұрын

I agree with you on the Fetter Challengers. I've always had a fascination with those. :)

@Jimboliah3985 7 жыл бұрын

Well, good news: Somebody is trying to build a new one in full size! :D

@726berkshire 7 жыл бұрын

Really?! AWESOME!!!! :D

@FlyinBlaney 6 жыл бұрын

My home town has an L&N depot. It has 2 tracks, a siding for tank cars, and an old coal tipple. We only have freight trains to go through now. Never seen a passenger train run through in my life.

@lysander.o.c.3580 3 жыл бұрын

This is a great video

@MrAndybye 6 жыл бұрын

Ref- your comment at 11.34; there were two early classes with outside gear: four French based de Glenn compounds in 1903 & also six 0-4-0T shunters for Swansea Docks in the 20s; all of these are now scrapped. There were also nearly 100 steam rail motors with outside gear; one of these has been preserved.

@Jimboliah3985 6 жыл бұрын

I don't cover French locomotives.

@d.r.dproductions6519 7 жыл бұрын

I'm not going to lie I didn't expect this Kind of video form you but that doesn't mean these are bad good job mate 🙂

@Jimboliah3985 7 жыл бұрын

Yeah, steam locomotives are my biggest childhood hobby. Heck, I liked them before I was introduced to Transformers. :P

@elijahstewart7937 7 жыл бұрын

I love your videos so addicting

@vincentberkan605 7 жыл бұрын

I would like to mention the Southern Railroad's Ms-4 class 2-8-2s. As copies of the USRA heavy 2-8-2s, they were built by ALCo and Baldwin from 1923 - 1928. They were the Southern's standard freight locomotives and were used on heavy freight trains and also used on passenger runs. In 1952, the first of the Ms-4s started to fall from the Southern's active roster and by June 1953, only the Ms-4s on the Southern's Alabama Great Southern Subsidiary were left. Sadly these would also retire in 1954. Sadly none of them, not even all of the original and copy USRA heavy 2-8-2s were spared from the scrappers torch.

@atsfevan0242 5 жыл бұрын

3:38 is that locomotive still around today that took big bertha 's headlight or was it scrapped like big bertha also I think the UK should build a new one of her the us should build a new fetter challenger and y6b too

@KCSRailstudios 5 жыл бұрын

What about the Southern Pacific’s gs2s gs3s, and gs5s ?

@JaeV2000 7 жыл бұрын

great to see so many svr locomotives on this video, I'm a volunteer there!

@Jimboliah3985 7 жыл бұрын

Wasn't the intention, really.

@Puckoon2002 2 жыл бұрын

35:49 the Great Eastern A55, a 3 cylinder, 0-10-0WT built in 1902 was known as "Decapod" it was always a one off. Rebuilt in 1906 as a 2 cylinder 0-8-0 tender loco but was scrapped in 1913 as a nonstandard locomotive. 36:25 The LMS Garratts where handicapped/hobbled by not having the tried and tested Bayer Peacock, roller bearing, axleboxes, on the insistence of someone from the Derby design office they were fitted with standard Midland axleboxes, which were barely adequate on the LMS 4F's amongst other problems.

@grahambutler-shawe2028 7 жыл бұрын

thanks a lot.Very informative.All the best

@Jimboliah3985 7 жыл бұрын

Thank you for enjoying. :)

@robertwilloughby8050 Жыл бұрын

The Granges were remarkably free running, more free than the Halls, who were no slouches in the free running department.

@NeonTube 7 жыл бұрын

I would have said the Virginians AE class 2-10-10-2s. They were an experimental locomotive design that worked well on the gently curving tracks of the Virginian railroad system. These locomotives were very rare and only lasted a short time before they were all cut up and turned into 2-10-2s. They did give me an idea to build a mallet Garrett with a 2-10-10-2+2-10-10-2 wheel arrangement. It would use the same method Mallet used as it would have a compounding system and the second and third sets of drivers would have steam linkages to the first and fourth sets to drive all four sets. It would weigh in at an estimated 810 or more tonnes and would have 60 inch drivers. Me and the rest of the NT crew have estimated it to be able to pull about 40-60000 tonnes but only at 2-6 mph. I still think that I will make it if I ever get enough money and some help. It would take around 25-30 YEARS to build though so even if I did get enough money for it then I would still age before I get to use it. In the meantime though I am currently building a model replica of this very locomotive and I will make a video on it when it is done.

@Jimboliah3985 7 жыл бұрын

... That's ridiculous. I have no words to describe how stupid and unplausible I think your project for that Super-Garrett is... It's just TOO BIG...

@NeonTube 7 жыл бұрын

Jim van der Kolk I know it's quite a crazy idea but I may do it just for the hell of it. I mean SAR (South African Railways) actually thought about making a super Garrett with a 2-6-6-2+2-6-6-2 wheel arrangement.

@kathyhavelka7612 4 жыл бұрын

Great list! The only one you missed, in my opinion, was the Milwaukee road A class

@TKSP4449 4 жыл бұрын

I think you sounded almost a bit like Scrooge McDuck when you tried to do that Scottish accent when you were talking about the LNER P2s.

@autism1016 5 жыл бұрын

GWR 2900 Saint class 2999 Lady of Legend is completed.

@Jimboliah3985 5 жыл бұрын

First: That name is a meme if I've ever seen one. Second: THANK THE HEAVENS!!!

@barbaravecchio6654 4 жыл бұрын

Also it would have been nice to have had fetter challenger No.3800 around since we already have two surviving challenger locomotives with those being 3977 and 3985

@johnmurray8428 4 жыл бұрын

I enjoyed this video thank you.

@finndahuman57 6 жыл бұрын

Hey you got to give Thompson credit for keeping most of the P2 parts

@Kettenhund31 7 жыл бұрын

Another good video, thanks for producing it... One point though, Birmingham (the real one in the UK) is in Warwickshire, not Worcestershire... People have been killed for less in the UK! Also, why wasn't the UP's successful Bullmoose 2-8-8-0 on your list? I'm surprised that it didn't even get an 'honourable mention'. UK loco's that should have been preserved, but weren't include pretty much everything from the LNWR, which at one time was the biggest railway company in the world and is tragically under-represented in preservation. Once again thank's for the two videos, I look forward to seeing your future work.

@Jimboliah3985 6 жыл бұрын

As for the Bull Moose locomotives not being in the list, I felt that the Fetter Challengers were a more memorable and versatile design, and kinda critical given how they were the true predecessors to the Big Boys, while the Heavy Challengers were designed after the Big Boys, really making them earn the title of Big Boy's little brother. ;)

@kendallwaller2115 4 жыл бұрын

Appreciated the work. Would have liked to see the ATSF 2-10-10-2 included. Massive, but unsuccessful experiment

@Tom-Lahaye 7 жыл бұрын

Very good narration in English for a Dutchie, the accent lying somewhere between a British and American accent makes it good understandable for anyone speaking (some) English, also like the jokes in between, and the right terms used for both sides of the pond, altough there was one small mistake, in the case of British locomotives their numbers are refered to as running numbers, not road numbers. I would have had seen the Niagara above the River class, as the Niagara did so much for achieving maximum cost effectiveness from a steam locomotive, which was higher than any diesel, according to a comparision trial done by NYC itself. They were also the best looking American 4-8-4 with their sleek lines My favorite for an extinct British loco class would be the CR Dunalastair ( any of the I, II, III or IVth variant), because they achieved great performance for such a small locomotive (they were 4-4-0's)

@CW56 4 жыл бұрын

The SR Z Class deserves a new-build project (if it isn’t too expensive) as they were the only steam shutters built by the SR.

@TheJFish94 7 жыл бұрын

Personally, I think you should of included the New Haven Railroad's I-4 4-6-2, and I-5 4-6-4. If only they would built a new I-5.

@ThomasFan3751 7 жыл бұрын

At the 41:10 mark, I think you may have hit the nail on the head because a fellow KZfaqr got an O-Scale Challenger mixed up with the Big Boy while he was at the Great Train Expo about 9 years ago.

@tjmfarming9584 3 жыл бұрын

Can you tackle Extinct Australian steam locos next? that'd be something I'd like to see

@JaredRouse8465 2 жыл бұрын

And more interesting train in part 2 as well. You should try doing so diesels from U.K. & us!

@Jimboliah3985 2 жыл бұрын

No. I don't like diesels from the UK because they look so moronic to me. And most US diesels are the same to me.

@JaredRouse8465 Жыл бұрын

@@Jimboliah3985 How are the uk diesels moronic? And for the American diesel your kinda right. I’m of sure if I have any examples, but if you have any that’ll be nice.

@AlcoLoco251 6 жыл бұрын

I thought the SP GS-8 was a reclassing of the Cotton Belt L-1's, of which #819 still exists.

@FranzFerdinandVIII 4 жыл бұрын

(27-Nov-19) *23:07* "Thane of Phayaa" That was flawless, given that it was a thane. I was laughing so much. Edit: *39:28* Did anyone here notice the road number on the Big Boy?!

@thethomasdetective990 3 жыл бұрын

I did

@RailPreserver2K 7 жыл бұрын

N&W planned to build a y7 but it only made it to the blue print phase but never saw construction physically

@massbayrailvideos3477 6 жыл бұрын

Really was hoping someone would finally do the B&M Berks, good video anyhow

@Jimboliah3985 6 жыл бұрын

Looked them up and then I remember how ugly they were... So no thanks... : /

@gingerdrizz 6 жыл бұрын

Jim van der Kolk then you haven’t seen the Southern Pacific Berkshires, they’re the worst looking Berkshires

@Jimboliah3985 6 жыл бұрын

They were exactly the same.

@gingerdrizz 6 жыл бұрын

Jim van der Kolk oh right b&m sold off there 2-8-4’s to sp & I think Santa Fe? & didn’t SF have there own Berkshires?

@traingamer2037 5 жыл бұрын

Well the polar express came from its maker Lima and then pere marquette

@FeatherWings78 7 жыл бұрын

I suggest you talk about the GWR 4700 Class some more and the NYC Locomotives.

@cheyvengeance5432 4 жыл бұрын

4700s aren’t extinct as one is being built

@FeatherWings78 4 жыл бұрын

@@cheyvengeance5432 Seriously?

@cheyvengeance5432 4 жыл бұрын

FeatherWings78 yes it’s being built by the Great western society but off site at Llangollen

@claughton1345 6 жыл бұрын

The MR's Big Bertha was a 4-cyl simple locomotive, employing only two valves.

@atsfevan0242 5 жыл бұрын

Are there actually plans for there to be a replica of n&w y6b 2174 in the not to distant future?

@SteamKing2160 7 жыл бұрын

The 2190 excursion is in Pocahontas Glory Volume 8 and the 2714 excursion is in Pocahontas Glory Volume 5.

@vincentswift7 7 жыл бұрын

There was never an LNER P2 named Thane of Fire It was Thane of FIFE Fife is a council area and historic county of Scotland. It is situated between the Firth of Tay and the Firth of Forth,and a Thane (in Scotland) was a man, often the chief of a clan, who held land from a Scottish king and ranked with an earl's son.Apart from that I enjoyed it Jim

@Jimboliah3985 7 жыл бұрын

Misread it. :|

@cliffbayford4533 4 жыл бұрын

The Claude Hamilton's were a Great Eastern locomotive named after the chairman of GER at the time.

@roberthuron9160 2 жыл бұрын

CONTIUATION- FS,[Italy],Plancher Compound locomotives,used on that system,as well as other Italian based lines! There were drawings of those engines in the Midland Railway design offices,in Derby! Surprise,surprise,that one overlooked factor,and the other questions are why didn't the Midland multiply more of these engines,as that would have greatly speeded up the Lickey Bank! As an aside,the Santa Fe,pioneered the 2-10-2,so why didn't the Midland take that hint! More questions no real answers! Thank you for the insight and opinions,they do stir the brain cells! THANK YOU FOR YOUR TIME AND EFFORT 👍 👌!

@WTC1973 7 жыл бұрын

I actually like the A2/2s. Plus, the Southern Pacific GS-8's are technically the final batch of L1 locomotives built by the Cotton Belt, and 819 was apart of the final batch, so...

@xxxggthyf Жыл бұрын

Your Scotch (that'll annoy them) accent is better than mine and I live dangerously close to the border... About 200 miles which is close enough 😀

@stephensmith799 4 жыл бұрын

US steam was ahead of the UK in so many ways... and I speak as a Brit. The GW Counties were obsolete from new (internal valve gear)

@samuelsmith6281 7 жыл бұрын

On the Southern K class (number 4), after the derailment, the Southern asked Sir Nigel Gresley to give them a look over and one example ran on LNER tracks where it failed to show any instability until it reached very high speed (70 or 80 mph if I remember correctly) and started to roll though not alarmingly. Gresley handed the locomotive back to the Southern and suggested poor track was to blame for the K's rolling ride not the locomotives themselves. This obviously didn't go down well with the Southern's chief civil engineer who was responsible for the permanent way (the tracks) who flatly banned them from running and forcing the rebuild into the U class tender engines.

@sockshandle 4 жыл бұрын

So the southerns chief civil engineer was a bit immature? cause If I were him I would make sure tracks were up to snuff with standards then disprove

@samuelsmith6281 4 жыл бұрын

Not immature @@sockshandle but certainly touchy especially as it was his professional integrity that was being called into question and by a CME from a different Railway company (though Gresley was probably a lot more diplomatic about it than I've written here).

@Rog5446 6 жыл бұрын

The LNER Mikado No 2005 was not named Thane of Fire. It was named Thane of Fife after Lord Macduff, the character in William Shakespeare's Macbeth.

@neilsonthegreat 3 жыл бұрын

I think if the A2/2 had smoke deflector like the other Thomson Pacific it would help to improve looks a lifting smoke

@timoilonen1926 7 жыл бұрын

What was from T&F Edward's type?? It was from Furness Railway, but I can't remember the class.

@sweed6487 7 жыл бұрын

Timo Ilonen FR K2

@geoffreyblack5982 5 жыл бұрын

Isn't the Bluebell railway building a new 4-4-2 with an existing boiler? Just like the A1 Pacific it should be steaming within a couple years. At least I hope so.

@raymondsommerfeldt769 3 жыл бұрын

I believe that Union Pacific has a4 in-8-2 in their steam collection at Cheyenne Wyoming,but I might be wrong on that.

@lukegoldstonofficial1614 5 жыл бұрын

What’s the name of the music you used in the video?

@hurricanefury439 6 жыл бұрын

Hey I liked the S1 yeah it was flawed but it was so cool it kind of like the lamborghini countach of steam locomotives yes its impractical and unwieldy but is fast as hell ant it oozes style

@michaelnaisbitt1639 4 жыл бұрын

Hurricane Furia Yeah didn’t it hit 176 mph ??????

@berkeleygang1834 2 жыл бұрын

I'm not sure why a Southern Pacific AC-11 made the list, when you know (and showed) an AC-12 is preserved (at CSRM), and it was shopped before going on display in front of the old Sacramento depot before being put aside and finally displayed at the CSRM. As far as other locomotives that should be on the list... Many SP fans lament not having an Mt-3/4/5 4-8-2 saved. Ditto one of the large "Decapods" - the F-3/4/5 class 2-10-2s. And not to show too much SP bias, I'll throw in the ATSF Blue Goose and any of the Milwaukee Road streamliners into the mix. You covered the NYC Hudson and Niagra.... I hearily concur. Photograph the common today. It won't be so common in the future.

@collinromeo641 5 жыл бұрын

some I have in mind are the LNWR Alfred the greats, Caledonian Railway IVs and Class 66s, as well as the LNER L1 2-6-4 tanks.

@stephenphillip5656 6 жыл бұрын

LNER P2s- it's Thane of FIFE, not Thane of FIRE.. 2001 (Cock o' the North and 2002 (Earl Marischal) were built as semi-streamlined Mikados. Later P2s (2003 'Lord President', 2004 'Mons Meg', 2005 'Thane of Fife' and, 2006 'Wolf of Badenoch' were fully streamlined-. they looked like 2-8-2 versions of the A4 class Pacifics such as Mallard. Good videos . Sorry we Brits broke up the Y6b. (SIGH)... We just didn't THINK...

@Jimboliah3985 6 жыл бұрын

Several others already beat you to it. But thanks anyway.

@DanielChannel57 7 жыл бұрын

36:12 Actually, one SP GS-8 is still around, Cotton Belt 819. I say this because really, the GS-8s were actually SSW L-1s, half of them were transferred to SP in the early 50s.

@transportationproductions1794 2 жыл бұрын

What about the LB&SCr Class E2s?

@TerminalSports45 6 жыл бұрын

One missing extinct locomotive from this list is the Southern Railroad (US) Ms-4 Mikados. And before people say anything SOU 4501 is an Ms, not only that but the first mikado built for the Southern. The Ms-4's were a very successful design, so much so that they rebuilt the vast majority of their Ss-1 Santa Fe types (2-10-2) from the Rathole division into mikados that were very much like the MS-4. The Ms-4 was also the last steam engine to haul a train in revenue service for the Southern when on June 17, 1953 No. 6330 pulled into Chattanooga, TN for the final time, making the Southern the first class 1 railroad to completely switch to diesels. I totally agree about the Central of Georgia Big Apples, one should have been preserved. There's also the Atlantic Coast Line's R-1 class northerns that somehow didn't make it to preservation.

@williamclarke4510 Жыл бұрын

They couldn't wait to have EMD do their thinking for them.

@keldeostudies2279 5 жыл бұрын

0:06 funny story on big bertha there was a lucky Luke episode called a cannon for the Dalton's and the cannon was name big Bertha

@gingerdrizz 6 жыл бұрын

It should also be worth mentioning that the scrapyard wanted to donate the 2143 & 2174 to the Roanoke Museum of Transportation, after sister engine 2189 was scrapped, in the mid to late 60’s, but the City of Roanoke rejected the offer, simply because they didn’t to have to restore those “Scrap Piles”

@Jimboliah3985 6 жыл бұрын

2156 was never in that scrapyard.

@gingerdrizz 6 жыл бұрын

Jim van der Kolk oops, sorry meant 2143, but yeah, 2174 had 2 chances to be preserved

@iaincaveney7162 4 жыл бұрын

what about the most graceful locomotive of the lot , the Great Central " Jersey Lillys" class 8B -8C -8D and 8E Atlantics also Wath Dasies 0-8-4T tank engines

@rayvaul3539 5 жыл бұрын

One GS-8 still exists but classified as an L1 where they originated from the Cotton Belt. L1 #819.

@ab0m1nat10nXGamez3 3 жыл бұрын

I think one good honorable mention would be the furnace railway k2 class And quick newsflash, you may have heard by now I knew LNER P2 class is Currently under construction.

@chesapeakedproductions3009 2 жыл бұрын

There actually does survive a PRR J1 boiler, although buried underneath mud

@atsfevan0242 5 жыл бұрын

41:23 I'm not sure if I'm correct but is this picture a picture of big boy 4023 and challenger 3985 from the 1970s or from the 50s or 40s of a random challenger and big boy that maybe or not still be around today or extinct. Tell if I'm right or wrong I'm not sure

@Jimboliah3985 5 жыл бұрын

No. That's 4009 and 3940 in a scene from Last of the Giants. Neither are preserved.

@atsfevan0242 5 жыл бұрын

@@Jimboliah3985 oh my bad sorry jim also you minding answer this question I posted awhile back on this video The question is : is the locomotive that has big bertha's headlight still around today? Or was it scraped like the challenger and big boy you told me about

@elijahstewart7937 7 жыл бұрын

Which 4-6-0 ten wheeler is the hogwarts express built after I thought it was based off of the saints at least looks but I could be wrong

@Jimboliah3985 7 жыл бұрын

The locomotive used for the Hogwarts Express is Great Western 5972, which is actually named Olton Hall. It's a 4900 Class locomotive, commonly called a Hall, for obvious reasons. But the first hall, numbedr 4900 Saint Martin, was indeed a rebuild of a Saint, number 2925.

@elijahstewart7937 7 жыл бұрын

Jim van der Kolk good to know my cousin is really into Harry Potter so that's why I was asking and btw I really like your challenger locomotive

@connorflaherty175 7 жыл бұрын

Thanks for mentioning the Billington E2s (of which Thomas the Tank Engine is based on) :P. I have heard of a proposed project to built a new one numbered 110 from scratch.

@Jimboliah3985 7 жыл бұрын

I didn't mention the E2s, because I don't like them.

@Jimboliah3985 7 жыл бұрын

The E2s were rubbish, dude. The only reason anyone likes them now is because of Thomas, and Thomas is definitely an embarrassment to big steam fanatics! I've even said I have outgrown Thomas a long time ago!

@Jimboliah3985 7 жыл бұрын

Don't have the guts to say anything back?

@DiegoGonzalez-cz6gu 4 жыл бұрын

@@Jimboliah3985 Seeing this comment amd its replies really shock me how people put shame on others for having opinions. I'll be honest, I feel that you should be a bit more fair with Thomas & Friends rather than saying that it's an outright embarrasment to train fanatics. I'm not being like Connor here that he judged you for disliking the E2, because I respect your opinion on the show, and really, I actually agree as the show nowadays IS an embarrasment to big train fanatics all around the world(having terrible unrealistic plots and now has gone to the levels of Chuggington, literally). But I'm willing to voice my opinion that it was far from that when it was a book series. In fact, one story basically replicates the real fate of a mountain engine called L.A.T.A.S.(I'll spare you the details as I know you won't care). I'll just say that the author of the old books(Wilbert Awdry) would be beyond pissed if he saw the show nowadays. But outgrowing something means that it's something of the past, and that's something that's impossible to judge as I have outgrown from several kids shows when I became 13. But I'll get straight to thr point, you are correct in saying that the E2s were actually pretty rubbish. Again, Ill be honest with my opinion on these locomotives. I like their design, but thats really it. They are just worse versions of their future replacements, the USA Docktanks. To quote a reply to a comment in this video: "The E2 is popular for the wrong reason". And to the guy that made this original comment and judged Jim of an opinion, you are wrong in doing that. You could've said "Oh ok" but instead you said "Shame on you!" and basically could've started an argument. Its good you didn't have the guts to reply three years ago, otherwise, things could've gotten ugly(Jim, if you though tha outgrowing Thomas was the best thing that bappened, well you're right as nowadays[maybe even before KZfaq existed] the fandom is just full of judgemental people, horrid drama and just toxic overall) Ok my wall is done so you can judge me now if I offended you, Jim.

@connorflaherty175 3 жыл бұрын

@@DiegoGonzalez-cz6gu I admit, I do agree with what people have said about what the show became in the nitrogen era and bwba but the thing is I am upset with Jim disregarding the e2s and Thomas and friends because he is not giving the classic series even a tiny bit of slack.

@TweetsieRailroader 4 жыл бұрын

22:07. A very good video! Call me crazy, but I'm actually looking at starting my own New Build project to construct a New Y6B once I gather the proper experience and know-how to do such a thing, but instead of being a replica of 2174, It will instead be the next number in the sequence, 2201.

@Jimboliah3985 4 жыл бұрын

I know that already, and I don't support the construction of the 2201.

@TweetsieRailroader 4 жыл бұрын

@@Jimboliah3985 You Don't have too. However, It's a passion project of mine, and I desire to see 2201 come to be, whenever that may happen. I promise you this: I will make SURE this locomotive comes to be if it KILLS me.

@Jimboliah3985 4 жыл бұрын

I'm the same guy who said you shouldn't overstep the 2200.

@TweetsieRailroader 4 жыл бұрын

@@Jimboliah3985 Hey, That's your opinion, and I will respect that. I desire to build the 2201, and I'm going to do all I can to make sure my dream becomes a reality.

@LePenguin 7 жыл бұрын

If I did one of these, one I would feature would be the experimental ATSF 2-10-10-2

@VirginianSpencer 7 жыл бұрын

Wow, I didn't think anyone could think less of Pennsy's relentless pursuit of a decent duplex than I did, but I think you are there. I guess you didn't include the Milwaukee's F-7 4-6-4 Baltics because they probably did best Mallard's record in service, but the Milwaukee did not want what they felt would be the unwanted perception that it was unsafe. In any event, they surely could have bested it, especially with a Mallard weight consist. They should have been # 1. There were no SP GS-8s, but the GS-5s are decent selections. They were essentially GS-4s with roller bearings. The GS-6s went back to smaller drivers for more freight orientation. While the Virginian Triplex was not successful, their Class AE 2-10-10-2 engines were very successful for a long time in drag service. The Norfolk and Western's K2 and K2a Mountain Classes are worthy of honorable mention as well.

@marcolopena4504 6 жыл бұрын

4-6-4s were actually called, "hudsons"

@kiwitrainguy 5 жыл бұрын

Marco Lopena - 4-6-4's were called Hudsons in the USA and Baltics in the rest of the world.

@atsfevan0242 5 жыл бұрын

Wait you live in the Netherlands and you grew up with German steam locomotives I thought you lived in the UK also jim do you like and perfer American locomotives or UK locomotives also why did you say 2716 wasn't one of your favorites if you put it on your top 20 favorite steam locomotive list?

@brendanwilliams7291 4 жыл бұрын

You mean the E4 class Hudson for Chicago & Northwestern Railroad, don’t you? What about the F7 Hudson for the Chicago Milwaukee St Paul and Pacific?

@Jimboliah3985 4 жыл бұрын

I didn't.

@lauriesarquis 7 жыл бұрын

The GS8'S From the S.P will live in cotton belt # 819 is basically a copy of the GS8'S

@dennyhamlinfan11nascarnort59 6 жыл бұрын

And in the honorable mentions, I had no idea that the Great Eastern A55s were extinct, AND the LNER Claud Hamiltons

@Jimboliah3985 6 жыл бұрын

The A55 was a one-off.

@NYMR-Pacific-6323 3 жыл бұрын

You Know Cotton Belt 819 Is A Rebuilt GS-8,Right!?!

@russellgxy2905 7 жыл бұрын

While I really don't like the Rolling River Tanks, I agree that the Q2s were a HUGE step over the Q1 (which is currently my most hated design), as well as the P2s would've been better off had Thompson left them alone; he did build decent original designs, but he ruined everything he tries to fix. I'm kinda sad that the Niagara didn't make the list, especially with how powerful they were as conventional engines and how they quite literally challenged the economy efficiency of the diesel itself, but I'm really glad that Big Bertha made the list; the largest loco from a Small Locomotive railway and could actually be called large!

@ab0m1nat10nXGamez3 2 жыл бұрын

T-1 Texas type 3020 was involved with a boiler explosion in may of 1948

@StevenKCRailfan 6 жыл бұрын

My picks of Extinct Steam Locomotives: Milwaukee Road Class A 4-4-2s and Class F7 4-6-4s Virginian Railways 2-6-6-6s "Blue Ridges" Union Pacific Streamlined Locomotives (#7002 a 4-8-2) and (#2906 a 4-6-2) New Haven I-5 4-6-4s All US Steam Turbines for PRR, Union Pacific, C&O and N&W

@Jimboliah3985 6 жыл бұрын

This was a UK and US list, remember? And I wouldn't really pick the Virginian's Blue Ridges, as they were just slightly lighter Alleghenies. And there are 2 of them still left.

@gseitl4337 7 жыл бұрын

The PRR T-1 and Q-2 's most of theier time in service run in the chicago and sandusky to crestline areas becouse theier rigid frame make it impossible to run over the (back then already 100 year old) tight curved tracks over the mountains.

@nigelgresley87546 5 жыл бұрын

LBSCR E2, FR K2, LNER A1, L&YR CLASS 28, BELL OPEN CAB OIL BURNER, NEILSON SADDLE TANK 0-4-0, NEILSON BOX TANK, LNWR BLOOMER CLASS, USSR AA-20

@nigelgresley87546 3 жыл бұрын

MegaIdiotJerk actually no I didn’t read the comments, I commented that a year ago, I was just naming the extinct engines, but yeah E2s are overrated, they were terrible performers, and they had insufficient speed

@transportationproductions1794 2 жыл бұрын

I agree with you about building a new Fetter Challenger?

@Viloco_Valve_Productions 6 жыл бұрын

To be fair though no CB&Q 2-10-4 or Colorado's didn't survive but Bessemer and Lake Erie 643 and other H class 2-10-4's are based off of the Colorado's. So there is a design or copy of the originals from the CB&Q still around.

@grahamj9101 7 жыл бұрын

Birmingham In Worcestershire? Full marks for pronouncing it correctly, by the way! Historically, Birmingham (aka Brum by Brummies ) was in Warwickshire, pronounced Worricksh'r for those who need instruction in the idiosyncrasies (I had to check the spelling, tut, tut!) of the pronunciation of English place names. I do have a framed 19th century map of Warwickshire (I'm a Warwickshire lad), which I've just checked, and which shows the early railways. In the past, county boundaries were moved around at the whim of the ruling classes, so I should also look at a 17th century Warwickshire map that I have somewhere.. However, in my lifetime, the government has redrawn some county and local authority boundaries at least twice and , in 1974, Birmingham, along with Coventry, was put into the newly created County of the West Midlands, which has since disappeared.

@oliviaz6499 3 жыл бұрын

we'll not forget the story of the mighty Y6B Haulers on the N&W

@59n1tr0n72 7 жыл бұрын

I've had to pause the vid and say, thank you, thank you, THANK YOU for taking the time to pronounce "Worcestershire" properly! I don't know why I even care though, never even been there. ('>_>)

@T16MGJ 4 жыл бұрын

I have many times 59n. I thought his brief attempt at a Scottish Accent was quite good too. This guy is a true-blu Railway Enthusiast and despite some minor language differences ( two forms of English ) his presentation style is of good standard... for, as we say this side of the big pond.. a "Yank".. .... ... 👍....😉

@roberthuron9160 2 жыл бұрын

There is a addendum for the LMS,Big Bertha,0-10-0,as it was actually a copy of the FS,[