Sorry to hear that

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Noooooo

I am a low grade collector because of pricing.

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That is why I WILL NOT collect graded books. That’s the biggest scam and now problem that comic book collectors have EVER had to deal with in the history of the hobby! That’s made some collectors look down on NEAR MINT CONDITION BOOKS! That “eww it’s a 9.6 not a 9.8” attitude didn’t come around until about ‘07 or so and ever since then, it’s been CRAZY and AWFUL for collectors who are looking for back issues, especially keys! No one can tell me that they can tell the difference between a 9.4 and a 9.8 with their naked eye and the fact that CGC made a big difference between them and made it like the standard, prices have just had extra hundreds of dollars tacked onto them FOR NO REASON WHATSOEVER! I tell the story about how just recently a person paid 200 bucks plus for a GI JOE 32 that was 9.8. Years ago no one even knew ANYTHING ABOUT gi Joe 32 let alone pay 200 bucks for it! It’s Zartans first appearance and only in the last few months has that book even gotten recognition, let alone sales, but right out the gate people are dropping 200 bucks for a book that is not a proven commodity nor will this book retain or even see that kind of price again! Still, there’s fools out here who will do whatever comic Tom tells them to do by watching his “hot” list and the market is being artificially driven but deconstructed slowly and when that bubble bursts, the resultant fallout is gonna be bad! People are not going to keep buying and the people who purchased these books are going to be mad that they are now stuck with a 30 dollar book that you went and paid 500 bucks for a year or so back. I just keep collecting “raw” books and even then I don’t like the prices that some people have attached to them either thanks to this CGC stuff ruining the marketplace.

Why not just start buying the comics that will be keys for tomorrow instead? They’re out there. You can enjoy them now, and they’ll be worth some coin in the future.

@@ludotoyhunter8492 when the bubble burst is when I get back into the hobby. In the meantime I'd consider selling to fools that rush in.

Just buy what you like that will make you happy, Joey. If you score a gem....just think of the positives when you do!

Thanks Matt - and yes don't worry - lot's of people missed that one!

@@MintHunterComics Ya lol well I wasnt really back in the collecting game until earlier this year lol oh well.

Yep. It’s dumb.

Ya I kinda feel the same way, many books have actually taken a huge hit and gone down in value because the TV show or the movie sucked (I'm looking at you, Disney 👀). Right now I'm looking at books that aren't popular right now that I like, and honestly just buying what like in general 👍🏼 I feel that lower grades of books can be the best of both worlds, you're still getting the book, maybe in not the greatest shape, but if you like the book, it's in your collection, who cares? And if it goes up it should be proportional to its value 👍🏼

I actually realllyyy like that idea - thanks for the video idea DD!

@@MintHunterComics Yeah, and it might just be my luck, but 3-4 CGC 9.6's that cost/are worth the same at purchase time as 1 CGC 9.8 often become later more valuable than the single CGC 9.8. So, if you buy 3-4 CGC 9.6 and sell these when that CGC 9.8 is at it's peak, you'll get more money back, _often_ The money you put in 3-4 CGC 9.6's comes back in a greater value than the one CGC 9.8 at the same cost. If you pay $1,000 for 4+ CGC 9.6 and $1,000 for 1 CGC 9.8, when the CGC 9.8 is worth $10,000, the 4+ CGC 9.6 are worth $12,000, and often the CGC 9.8 would be cheaper than the sum used here, so then the CGC 9.6's would be worth more. And even this: if the same amount of money spent on _multiple_ CGC 9.6's become worth more than the same amount spent on 1 CGC 9.8 when that CGC 9.8 is at it's peak. There's many ways to say the same thing, I'm just making sure all who read this understand why I am claiming/experience monthly. It's all about logistics and how large a warehouse you have to store these future moneymakers. This isn't(it can't be?) set in stone, but it has worked for me last 5 years when I realized this. I save those CGC 9.6 to sell later, but it does take time for their value to increase. If it's a modern book(I mean from 2000-2021), everything below a CGC 9.6 is "trash to me".

Don’t let this grading crap fool you! It’s a racket and a way to bilk extra money out of people. Stop falling for the okey doke. In “raw” condition no one can tell a 9.6 from a 9.8 and it has gotten so bad that collectors (like you guys apparently) LOOK DOWN ON NEAR MINT CONDITION BOOKS! What kinda nonsense is that? A .2 in either direction is not enough to make me wanna give you extra hundreds of thousands of dollars more. That’s just dumb. CGC has TOTALLY RUINED the hobby as a whole. Period. They made it up (grading that is) for sports cards and then people got hip and then greedy (as is par for the course, greed always destroys anything that brings in money no matter WHAT it is!) and just started grading everything: coins, stamps, toys, video games (which is ANOTHER area in which they just went TOTALLY DAMN INSANE with and prices on some of those games are tens of thousands of dollars just because it’s “graded”. WTF are you grading on a video game that’s in the box and shrink wrapped? You don’t know if the game is broken or missing instructions or whatever because you can’t even open the damn box! Total scam!) and it just became an over used passé thing and it has made people more like stock brokers than comic collectors. There are SO MANY assholes who buy graded books only and don’t know ANYTHING ABOUT COMICS except that they are worth money. That’s what has killed our hobby. The people who aren’t doing both, enjoying their books and selling when they are ready, but it’s these people who need the “blue chip” books (and that’s proof that they are outsiders to comics because in all my years of collecting, I never ever heard “blue chip books” until grading came on the scene and brought these outsiders into the realm of comics) and pay astronomical prices as well as charge astronomical prices for their graded books. It’s the “too much money and nothing to do” crowd that has fostered this environment and made nonsense of the back issue market. I just saw the first appearance of the dinobots (transformers #8) going for 350 bucks! What? Since when does this (a perennial dollar book if I ever saw one) book command the same price as a first appearance of Harley Quinn or Deadpool? Do you see JUST HOW RIDICULOUS the market has become? People are paying more for this book, more for the first appearance of dinobots than they are for the first lobo and gunslinger spawn. That’s a backwards market and it’s because the die hard collectors who love comics and will still be here after this idiotic bubble bursts, are priced out of the books they want or have been aspiring to get because greedy people who are using these books as stocks basically have pumped prices up to high using artificial means. That’s a problem and grading caused this WHOLE situation. When grading was newer and in its first five or ten years, it was for older books that you wanted to preserve and collectors sent in their key back issues to get them slabbed. There was a time that you could NOT send modern stuff to them whenever you wanted and they set a certain time aside to grade newer books as older ones took preference over new books. Now people send in any damn thing and they are just slab crazy and that has totally put collecting on life support. Unless you have extra thousands to spend on comics, you can’t get a good three or four key back issues at a convention anymore. That’s a damn shame. We now have collectors thinking that anything under 9.8 is unworthy somehow and there’s people who call 9.0 and 9.2 books “mid grade”. That’s unbelievable and that’s exclusive to NOW. That didn’t happen in 1993, 96, 2001, 2007, 2013, 2015, however in the last 6 years or less the shift in perspective has made collectors not only unreasonable but highly unrealistic. Most comics don’t live in the 9-10 point range yet that’s all collectors want. You have 90 percent of collectors going after the top 5 percent of books. If this continues, comic books will just collapse in upon themselves and destroy the hobby permanently.

Can't liquidate for these prices anyway, gonna get 60%

@@ludotoyhunter8492 , I completely agree. I will also add I saw the collapse of the comic book market in the 90's when everyone was buying 5 to 10 copies of books thinking they were all going to turn into 1st superman or batman values. The print rate was insane. I was an actual reader not so much a collector. But I did take care of my books after I read them, bagged, boarded, and put them in a storage box. I remember some folks trying to sell me books at insane prices since they knew I read comics. And I gave them a resounding "NO". Those books are not worth anything, there's a ton of them out there and they will never be worth anything. I had to give it up as life got in the way...I still have comics I never even opened (subscription service with Mile High Comics) as far as ten years back at the very least.

I feel you. For me it is pretty dumb to seal a comic book in a plastic case, unless it is a HOLY GRAIL of comics. I like to read my comics and put them back into their bags.

@@redarrow884 I agree with you RedDevil. It really ticks me off to see encapsulated comics that have no significance whatsoever. Only Holy Grails should be graded.

@@jinryujr33 yeah, but to each their own i guess 🤷🏼‍♂️ I had a first Gambit on a slab for maybe 4 years (it was a gift) and finally last year i REALLY wanted to read it and feel it on my hands, and i said fuck it! Cracked open that slab and enjoyed it a lot!

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Thanks Nate!

Smart man!

@@MintHunterComics it's not because I think it's beneath me. I just don't think I know how to submit comics to ensure that grade very well.

Lololol

This

THIS - yes right here

Never heard of it! haha

There's def some 2000's books I think are deserving - for me that's one of em!

Young Avengers #1 is worth having. I would go for a raw and get it grade myself though.

exactly, plus the $1350 sales were for newsstands. he doesn't understand that.

The crazy part is that I thought these books were too expensive in 2019 hahahahaha

@@MintHunterComics if only we knew!

Aw man...

EXACTLY my line of thinking.

There's so many of em out there

Wow - that's a great one for sure

@@MintHunterComics I suspect the increase is based on spec they’ll appear in the mcu…

And the fact movies/tv shows that have nothing at all to do with the comics cause them to go up in value imao

Glad you enjoyed it

Hahaha I like your formula

I think $1,000 is justified but not $1,800

Huh, I actually never heard that. Wow!

The article I found on Heritage was about a game, but it is a practice used on eBay as well. I think that during the frenzy of buying there may have been some individuals that put in bids just to bump up the price hoping that the bidder would continue to raise their bid on a "must have". July would have been right in the middle of Disney spec news as well. I missed on SIKTC. Wasn't a must have for me but I would give it a go in TPB form.

That may be likely! Unfortunately I can't justify $1,500 on that much of a gamble

@@MintHunterComics I'm a huge fan of SIKTC but I think $850 is a more realistic price for the time being...

By that time, you have already been hit by a price jump.

I think so too - even though I think the price is ridiculous and I don't think it's as warranted as UF4 it doesn't seem to be going away, nor should it as it's a great character!

Hahaha I agree yo!

How well did it work for Captain Mar-Vell?

I sort of disagree with SheHulk, the character wasn’t really collected until rumours of a tv show or movie appearances. Even her own series covers showed this.

Thanks for sharing!

I wanted to just mention the direct to show how crazy high even just the directs have gone!

@@MintHunterComics for example a "What if" #105 in a newsstand is looking sexier by the day and has immediate draw for attention...

Great book. It's a modern blue chipper.

@@unrulysimian3897 I only by for my PC, I am not a flipper, She's staying with me for good

I think that sale was an outlier but STILL - craziness

Silk is optioned for her own live-action TV show. Once that drops you should be able to pick it up for less…I hope? Raw copies can be bought for around $100-150.

Why thank you!

I think even THEN $1,500 still ain't right hahaha

Right now there are some 9.8 True Believer reprints going for $300-$400 with 30+ bidders (granted they were signed by Stan Lee. but still)

I would say yes but I actually think it's 20-somethings that got unemployment or stimulus money and plugged it straight into unobtainable comics lol

@@MintHunterComics There's no better way to _clean money_ than invest in comic books, if you know what I mean. The mob has been invested in comic book collecting for decades, there would be no Mile High Comics if those mobsters didn't stash away 1.5-2million comic books meant for shredding. Also, I'd say 50% of new slab buyers have money but are clueless and one day they will go away.

Oh god, that hit $1,000 too? BRUH!

Hahaha, the OTHER Wolverine #1 I think is justified, but this one? HUH? Hahahaha

Me too...LOL

Oh wow!

I think it's indicative of the amount of money people had to spend this past summer - a lot of younger folks experienced large amounts of money for the very first time and just went haywire with it!

@@MintHunterComics That being said its seems from Comic Toms show people are still dishing out crazy amounts of money for books in every era, mainly based on Disney's output. I had sold some books on ebay to make room for more purchases before prices went nuts. Now I think I'll keep my eye on the X men market, if it keeps rending the way it does some privileged deep pocketed person can take my run off my hands and I'll pay off my house! Ha!

Hold the X-Men and FF until the MCU drop. Then sell, sell, sell!

Seems the same mentality as crypto/Robinhood traders. Eventually, they will get their faced ripped-off & blamed everyone accept themselves.

Same here!

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lol! You'll watch all 30 and ENJOY IT!!! haha

@@MintHunterComics in still watching it, LoL. I'll give some feedback later. Glad to see a couple books I have

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That is awesome! timing is everything

@@MintHunterComics Ain't that the truth!

A *CGC 9.9* is another story. I do sorta feel all and any Marvel books that are a *CGC 9.9* are worth $1,000+ One of my secondary side-quest slabbed collections is buying all CGC 9.9's that are not too expensive as well as CGC 10.0's; just for speculation. Can you imagine if in 5 years time a Giant-Size X-Men #1 showed up in a CGC 9.9 or CGC 10.0!?! It would be worth $350,000-$500,000 in a CGC 9.9 and $1,000,000 in a CGC 10.0.

9.9's should almost always be $1,000 ESPECIALLY if it just happened to be a key!

Agreed - these prices are subjective and what may be considered a ridiculous price to one , might be someone's holy grail!

I don’t know the answer to that. What I do know is I currently have 2 x copies of 9.8 WHITE PGS Savage She-Hulk #1 and 0 Young Avengers #1. Both are worth having.

I think that may have been that double cover 9.9, 9.9s are their own crazy animal haha

Almost all of these have gone down! these high sales were June-Sep of this year - a lot of these are lower now!

There are close to 1,500 cgc 9.8s. That's not counting 9.6s or anything from CBCS. The book is not even two years old and each one of those goes for close to $1,500? I'm sorry but that doesn't make sense! If this was 2019 that book would be like $199.99 lol 😆

(Dude it really is - I'm not the biggest fan!)

Not a fan either.

@@MintHunterComics Hey, unintentionally, i thought up another(well, 2+) video idea for you: why would boring comic books/issues become valuable? If it stinks, it sinks. Speaking of stinking, we have this under grade called "White Pages". Then there's all the "Cream", "Off-White", etc. But what if the comic book, say a CGC 9.8, stinks, lets say it smelles really bad; why doesn't that effect the grade? _Or does it?_ Can a smelly book get a CGC 10.0? I have never seen any notes on a book that smells unpleasant. With that in mind, maybe we should all sprinkle vanilla drops on our packages to CGC: pleasant smells makes people positive, and might return a grade bump?

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This

That's actually the first time I've heard the term "armchair speculators" I love it!

Young Avengers has had a ton of exposure since the spring, as most of the core Young Avengers characters were introduced in the different Marvel TV shows that have premiered this year. Add to that the speculation and almost certain likelihood of Disney sowing the seeds for a Young Avengers series, and the price jump makes sense. Unlike Spider-Girl, Young Avengers actually has something of substance driving the prices up. YA 1 has the potential to continually grow, and grow a lot. I'm with James in that YA 1 could be a huge book some years from now.

SONY has talked a lot of expanding the Spider-Man Universe, pre-pandemic there were 6 non-Spider-Man villain movies planned, and a Spider-Gwen and a Spider-Woman.

Young Avengers #1 is worth having. I also opted for SIKTC trades, and I enjoy the first story arc…read them all in one night. I did buy that sweet slip cover omni too.

Other info this guy had Spider-Man 300 and a lot of Spider-Man 1-100 and comics from the 50s the would be like a 9.0 maybe 9.2 oh btw I got the third apperance of carnage for 50 cent's same with batman 384 and silver surfer 1 for 1 dollar and much more I got 52 comics for 20 dollars and so more like captain America and the falcon 153 which has a cover that is making it worth alot

Very very true!

These are actually just the sales for direct editions! Newsstands is a hole other ballpark!

@@MintHunterComics yikes