CJ 😂😂😂😂

How on earth would you put Atow on 17. He really thinks Ahmad, JKnaps, Chicago, Atomik and Archie will do better? I mean at majors everything can happen, but Atow is mostly considered a top 5 player atm and plays for the team that beat KC twice.

@@ryanlunzen9794 he also put chronic at 16 and itachi down at 19. Crazy

@@ryanlunzen9794 I actually agree with you on that atow is one of the smartest players imo, top 10 at least

@@majesticmo5048 tbates also said chronic isn’t close to atomic lmao

@Thunderstorm dude is nutting off of atomic lmfao. Atomic is crazy good but individually he's gotten outpaced by others.

There's so much wrong with their lists. Based on recent performances you have to put team liquid way higher, also oxygen a bit lower, G2 way lower and players like Radosin, Sypical and Exotiik are too low.

How did you account for players that didn't make it onto a list? I.e. Ahmad not making Johnny's?

​@@ryanlunzen9794 It's a projection, not a top 25 players list

@@itsnottimetostop4462 by probably taking them as 26

@@itsnottimetostop4462 I counted players that weren’t on one of their lists as a 26

And Dazerin is there.

@@johnnyjontown2785 yeah bruh debandzerin is vibing fr

​@@johnnyjontown2785 Dazerin is black, has to be enough.

@@Luca-jy9cw ?

@@YHWHsam Would you say he's white?

Really? That's the main reason I don't enjoy these. More annoying than anything.

I believe the term to describe it would be a “shit-eating grin”

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I'm half way through this video and this is by far the most underrated comment haha spot on sir

Not hard when they’re all braindead

When tbates and Johnny are together it’s no surprise

5 people and then they elaborate on their opinions, for me it's not that surprising. Plus it's fun af to hear their banter 😂😂

I think Johnny had the best list

LEMME TELL YA

COL has a hard group stage and they aren't as consistent as other teams. With a peak performance yes, but I still think CRR is the best and people are sleeping on ajg!

@@ryanlunzen9794 they've proven to beat gen.g in groups before and oxg and col is a close match as many will agree with me and if they just keep consistent they will handle pioneers.

@@ryanlunzen9794 id say their pretty consistent now.. dont you? yk worst result in months a top 4? not missed a championship sunday in months?

@@Br0die_ They did really well at the Major. They really used their chance with a good group stage against a Gen G that wasn't as impressive as earlier this year's season and oxygen also struggling with this roster but also only losing close to Faze and being eliminated just by this series. Now they looked really good and I think CRR is an amazing player but his mates are incredible aswell. As Furia looked really weak, V1 still figuring out their roster, Faze beyond their peak and Gen G they won several times. I think they could dominate NA or at least continue this run.

so true

This guy is the personification of NA Fans. They hype NA teams since season 1 and I think every season, except maybe 2 times, the best team goin in in the Majors was EU or MENA.

tbates makes it interesting, whether you are "for" or "against" his takes. I am super biased, I absolutely love tbates and always want to see him in content etc (as is true for many), but even if you don't agree with him or find his takes believable, i think that these kinds of videos just arent the same without him. There is nothing wrong with an analyst having an openly favorite team!

Good why do you want everybody to be the same. Cry more

@@andrew-ub4ku yeah i think having a favorite team is totally fine and these videos would be like 10x more boring without him. Imo trying to pull some weird as reasoning as to why you're predicting your favorite players to do well is probably not the best in terms of educational purpose, but then again, that's part of why he's so entertaining and i wouldn't trade him for anyone in these

Hair splitting is part of the content though :)

Actually one of his better picks but still too low imo.

That is pretty fair tbh, bros only good performance was Sweden

@@thund3r94 I think he's overhyped a bit. In 3s and 1s. Oxygen has a team that should make atleast semi finals in ever regional and Major imo. I think he's the weak point in the team.

@@ryanlunzen9794 definitely agree, I’ve been saying that since winter major, I also think the same about Archie since I’d put him and joreuz on a similar level *winter major last season*

@Thunderstorm I rate archie a lot higher than joreuz but that's mainly because he's a great defender and complements rise's aggression but joreuz has been underwhelming for a year now. Dude is either pretty good or just irrelevant on the pitch, and both times they lost to kc he put up a negative rating. Oxygen's performance at the next major is gonna be off of the back of rise

Nah cavs vs warriors in the finals when warriors were up 3-1 and lost

hes studying for law school as well lmao

I hope English isn’t your first language.

@@business3867 it is XD, i get your comment though, i just couldn’t correctly put together this idea for some reason

This comment is crazy to me I disagree on daz having the most probable list and on johnny dropping the ball at all even

@@cracacroesgazyy Chronic's placement has to be the biggest ball dropped, daz doesn't have anything too outrageous apart from alpha but even that has a good chance of happening

@@cracacroesgazyy not necessarily that chronic at 7 is bad but the players above him

@@redvic83 ok we can just agree to disagree then :) I don't think any of johnnys picks above chronic are bad and here are some of the things I dislike about dazs list. Alpha too high like you mentioned, ahmad 10 is very outrageous to me even putting him above trk by that much alone is wiiiild to me. Sypical 12 i find veeeery out there as well, i dont rate syp as much. Daz could swap syp and mist and it would be a lot better imo. Daz also doesn't have ExotiiK or crr on the list AT ALL so those are 2 massive L's too. I would put archie higher and 15 for atow is craaaazy low imo. I'm curious which picks in johnnys top 6 you think are bad and would like to know your reasoning for it as well :)

​​@@cracacroesgazyy Atomic, atow and Archie. I don't think Archie has ever performed at a top 5 level on lan and atomic has been way too inconsistent in regionals. Atow has been performing but I'd rather see the major champ above him especially after gaining the experience of his first RLCS LAN and performing so well. I generally don't understand the high rating of Archie across the board, he's been playing well but I don't think it's been to a particularly higher level than any other instance, personally rise has been the most consistently best on that O2 team, but that may be just me.

If you look at past prediction videos, bates’ lists are always not far off. Johnny literally just ranks the players based off who are top seeds

Literally last major, Johnny had like all of kc in the top 10 and they didn’t even make top 4. Bates gets too much flack because he thinks unique

Nah. 4s is really chaos. There are some formats that do this pro+normal player.

@@ryanlunzen9794 In a tournament a few months ago, I played with a guy that was really impressive. It was obvious he was a really good player, but we were in a Bronze tournament......I think he scored 40 of the 50 goals, in what, 7 games.

Tbf I don't rate saizen as high, but radosin has been incredible and has been the team's most consistent player, alpha's good but he's a freestyler one day and then the next day he'll be making some questionable errors.

@@majesticmo5048 I don't rate saizen above alpha either. I'm just saying that he downplays chronic, atow, etc. because they "have a great team" and acts like alpha doesn't.

Most underrated player in rlcs fuckinf insane way better than ppl think he is

Ngl everyone has at least 2-3 bad takes in these

@@thund3r94 says you?

@@donyxd3365 yeah, says him. He made the comment.

@@donyxd3365 well he did say “everyone” 😂😂

Horrendous takes? #Batesneverwrong

I mean Firstkiller has put up numbers for more or less every event he's ever been in. His teammates are the question mark.

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wdym he literally got alpha in 4th, reysbull in 7th and atomic in 18th xD

"Y'all are on recency bias," and by recent he means the recent 69 grand finals chronic was a part of

LOL johnny had the exact same amount of NA players as EU players in the list and he didn't even come close to underrating every NA player besides GenG roster. Your brain seriously screwed with your perception if you think that's a take that happened in the video.

@@cracacroesgazyy these are all predictions no need for insults

@@cracacroesgazyy did you even read what he said lmao

@@N.O.A_YT oh this is mb i seriously didnt realise these were predictions im sorry. I read it as predictions on your bingo board you crossed off during the video, implying that you think these takes happened during the video. We misunderstood it's fine I apologize. But cmon how is your brain screwing with your perception an insult, like da heck it happens all the time. For example I would never have replied that otherwise :D. Also even if you take that as an insult: I said that your brain only seriously screwed with your perception, if you think that the take is what happened in the video. Now obviously you don't because it was simply a prediction. So this scenario doesn't apply here. Thus, even then I would've never actually insulted you. Based off of your comment, I can't really tell if you feel insulted by my reply or not, so I just wanted to make sure you know that that didn't actually happen :)

@@cracacroesgazyy damn. Sounds like your brain screwed with your perception