Top 5 Dumbest Building Products

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Matt Risinger

Matt Risinger

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In this video I'll show you what I consider 5 Dumb Building Products. These have bugged me for years and its time to call them out!
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@LtDan-hr1pb
@LtDan-hr1pb 5 жыл бұрын
Matt, after some research, my own experience, and my trusty brother in-law (over 40 years building experience), I would only agree with 3 of the 5. And judging from the comments since the first time I watched this video, some of the comments posted would agree. Because of the areas where you have built homes, it may be the amount of experience with direct vent fire places or woven wrap. I also believe that the use of many materials are not suitable for certain areas. I have worked with home builders on the central eastern shore and builders up in the Appalachian Mountains and what a difference with materials. Of all of the videos of yours I have viewed, this is the only one I have commented on with any negativity. Many of the tips you have posted I have applied with success. I have purchased products and avoided purchasing other products based on some of your posts and product reviews. It has kept me out of a lot of trouble. Thank you! Keep up the great work.
@charlievanlandingham567
@charlievanlandingham567 5 жыл бұрын
The "flashing " should be installed over the sheeting and under the housewrap. We use a 12" strip of plastic instead of paper. It also is designed to be placed inbetweenst the brick layers at the base of the weep holes to allow moisture out of the 1" air space between the brick and the wall. It is not designed to stop water from going under the wall as mentioned. The house wrap shown is marketed as a vapor barrier and or wind stop designed to do exactly what it says. They make better such as Tyvek or Hardie wrap but both are still going to get holes in them with the addition of brick wall ties. The thermo-ply wall sheeting has been used for years here in FL and quite sturdy when installed properly. However, not the best choice in this climate. It gets wet ,holds moisture, makes fungi, and attracts termites. It's a termite buffet since it is primarily cellulose. The water heater box can be sealed with silicone or window tape or both. DV FP can be fixed with high temp sealant. It is also a pipe inside a pipe for the vent.I do believe there are better products on the market to build a better house. I also believe that you have jumped the gun on the things you have shown as most items are most likely not in the completely installed phase.
@stanleykeith6969
@stanleykeith6969 5 жыл бұрын
for the fireplace vent they make a caulking that is High temp. to seal those types of leaks. It gets the job done and will take the heat. Great video.
@hudsonkiyonaga
@hudsonkiyonaga 4 жыл бұрын
As a plumber from Canada, must be nice to be able to run water lines in an outside wall
@johnnyreb8030
@johnnyreb8030 4 жыл бұрын
Cant here in conn either
@dwh5512
@dwh5512 4 жыл бұрын
We don't even do that in Illinois
@happyguycol
@happyguycol 4 жыл бұрын
Work for 2 years in canada and, coming from a country you can run plumbing on an outside wall, kept forgetting that. Hahaha
@bjordhaaland9649
@bjordhaaland9649 4 жыл бұрын
I live in tennessee and its even a huge no no here.
@clintdavis9511
@clintdavis9511 4 жыл бұрын
@@bjordhaaland9649 I see water lines in outside walls all the time in the greater Nashville area.
@SimonHomeintheEarth
@SimonHomeintheEarth 5 жыл бұрын
2) its not perforated, its woven. They don't punch it with pinholes, they just weave it from strips. It is not meant to hold water, it is meant to carry water down and away and let vapor out of the wall. It does exactly what it is supposed to do, you are just using it wrong and the test was totally inappropriate for its intended use.
@RanjivJain
@RanjivJain 5 жыл бұрын
Simon, do you believe that a woven product that doesn't have self healing capability will properly sheathe driving rain? When you are using such a product against the building and there is no rainscreen, with building pressures as they are against the home the self woven product can also withstand minimal if any hydro-static pressure.. and no capillary break.... please kindly excuse my ignorance and educate me on why this is a good strategy in the envelope assembly for a long term solution?
@DankMoist
@DankMoist 5 жыл бұрын
Simon I second what Ranjiv says, and would also like to know your knowledge on the matter.
@Galgamoth
@Galgamoth 5 жыл бұрын
Ranjiv Jain why is driving rain hitting your house wrap? the house wrap is supposed to move any moisture out of the building so it can dry and not let the materials get moldy or rot. it is not supposed to waterproof the building
@braddowns17
@braddowns17 5 жыл бұрын
@@RanjivJain you should not have driving rain hitting your house wrap. That's why you have siding
@CesarGarcia-ep8tt
@CesarGarcia-ep8tt 5 жыл бұрын
Driving rain will NEVER hit the house wrap once the exterior is finished, siding , brick or stucco is what's gonna stop the water, the house wrap is supposed to let the house breathe.
@billyyelverton9406
@billyyelverton9406 5 жыл бұрын
@6:10 Furnace Cement is made specifically for fireplace vent applications. It also has a higher temperature rating than high temp silicone.
@verafides1
@verafides1 4 жыл бұрын
You can put silicone around the pipes on a furnace. Not the silicone caulk you use on windows. It's a specific high-temp silicone made for that. You can buy it at any home improvement store and it meets code for Class A chimney installs. Consider - you use a silicone product to seal the oil pan to the engine block. That stuff is rated to 800F+.
@EarthisnotforSale
@EarthisnotforSale 5 жыл бұрын
You should do a video of what to ask a home building company when your ready for a new house. Many folks like myself have no clue what is TOP choice or TRASH rip off. I thought of having a new Wayne Home built down the road, so this is why I am watching all sorts of home building videos, so Thanks for all the info! Good Stuff
@dianafertig2188
@dianafertig2188 Жыл бұрын
It is like buying anything. Every detail must be in writing or you get short changed by someone.
@stevethomas3656
@stevethomas3656 5 жыл бұрын
A direct vent fireplace is no different than a wood burning stove that is direct vented. Easily made air tight and insulated if installed properly.
@hgbugalou
@hgbugalou 3 жыл бұрын
Reading these comments it's clear: everyone is an expert and everyone is an idiot. It's no wonder things can't get done right with so much misinformation going around. Even a professional can't make heads or tails of what choice to make on a product based on some of the discussions here. This is why industry standards are important but they can't really keep up with innovation in the home building arena. I don't envy you guys doing this for a living.
@johnrobinson4445
@johnrobinson4445 3 жыл бұрын
We live in an era in which FACTS, actual science-based, proven and tested FACTS, are "fake news". And the building trades are full of Trumptards. So, there ya go.
@joeldoctor3341
@joeldoctor3341 3 жыл бұрын
I couldn't agree more lol
@devinmahoney3777
@devinmahoney3777 5 жыл бұрын
I've seen a lot of builds use Fortiflash here in Oregon and as a waterproofer I was always happy to see stucco, brick, or stone exteriors done that way. But they used the fortiflash CORRECTLY in conjunction with tyvek (under it) and it usually transitioned to concrete or up top and over the tyvek in the same fashion (if I remember correctly).
@g41thomas
@g41thomas 4 жыл бұрын
I have installed 2 ventless blue burn heater in my home for past 18 years and I my whole family love them
@johnyunits7134
@johnyunits7134 4 жыл бұрын
what model are they..thanks
@bookreaderlabarr
@bookreaderlabarr 4 жыл бұрын
The ventless is against fire code in my area
@richardbarber4444
@richardbarber4444 5 жыл бұрын
Hi, I have a direct vent gas fire place which works really well in Ontario, Canada. Winter temps down to minus 30 C. The exhaust goes out via the INNER pipe, The incoming air through the outer casing so it stays relatively cool and can be well insulated. Quick to heat , automatic thermostat, runs a year on 2 AA batteries, no other power. 27000 Btu's.
@greggv8
@greggv8 5 жыл бұрын
Running the exhaust in a pipe inside the intake is done for a couple of reasons. 1. Needs only a single hole through the wall so there's less to seal, and no need for a heat resistant seal. 2. Improves efficiency by pre-heating the intake air somewhat. The longer the pipe run, the more heat transfers from the exhaust. A concentric pipe isn't needed for 95% or higher efficiency gas furnaces. Their exhaust is so cool they use PVC pipe. The fireplace in the video has its exhaust up through and out of a small space that will be sealed off from the room. Thus it's not at all like an open window.
@davidk7544
@davidk7544 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. They work really, really well when the installer knows how to install them.
@andreo
@andreo 5 жыл бұрын
I remember years ago adding a wood burning stove to my previous house. I used double wall class a vent pipe. I was able to seal all the openings with a calk that was made to take the heat (I forgot the name). The outer wall of the pipe would get warm at best while it was in use.
@mikeRadamz
@mikeRadamz 5 жыл бұрын
Hi Richard, what is the brand and model you bought and how long have you had it? I am looking to buy one and your's sounds like one I would be interested in. Thanks!
@paulhoskins7852
@paulhoskins7852 4 жыл бұрын
Good comment.
@willyhoogs
@willyhoogs 5 жыл бұрын
I installed gas fireplaces for years. You can use red high temp silicone around that collar and rock wool insulation. Duh!!
@junit483
@junit483 5 жыл бұрын
I literally just asked that before I seen your comment. Thank you for confirming my suspicions.
@RJ_Cormac
@RJ_Cormac 5 жыл бұрын
Agree, I also have used automotive sealant and Rockwool insulation.
@Furiends
@Furiends 5 жыл бұрын
On that topic actually I wonder why spray foam is used where silicone caulk would do. I totally understand spray form for window cavities but thats about it. I still seal windows with silicone then fill the cavity with spray foam. I don't really use it for anything else.
@BrianBriCurInTheOC
@BrianBriCurInTheOC 5 жыл бұрын
In The USAF the Jet Mechanics used an orange colored silicone... I believe it is the silicone that is used for the highest temperature applications
@kondasixtytoo487
@kondasixtytoo487 5 жыл бұрын
Duh is correct, I have never heard a poorer explanation of installation for a direct vent product. Even the slightest bit of research would have negated his negative submissions.
@Hearthman1159
@Hearthman1159 5 жыл бұрын
I used to think more of Matt but his generalization about a whole class of fireplaces is unfortunate. Properly installed a gas direct vent has an inner and outer firestop that can be caulked with high temp. RTV silicone according to most mfrs. The double walled vent pipe is tested to 25 Pascals. A DV does not use room air for combustion but provides great zone heating and a backup zone heat source in the case of a power outage. They are very efficient and often are used to heat one zone of a home for the day instead of the whole house. The net result can be energy savings. Since vented fireplaces are huge energy hogs and ventfree are lung vented I guess the only fireplaces Matt endorses are electric or gelled alcohol. Bad advice Matt. Read an installation manual please. Attend the HPBA show and sit in on some classes.
@wadepotter5377
@wadepotter5377 4 жыл бұрын
Ventless fireplaces are definitely not a huge NO-NO. It's safe, efficient and looks great. We love ours. What do you base your opinion on? Your mistaken about this option in fireplaces. Direct vent are about worthless, I agree with that assessment.
@danielfronc4304
@danielfronc4304 4 жыл бұрын
Well, whoops on his part.
@hailexiao2770
@hailexiao2770 4 жыл бұрын
@@wadepotter5377 It's the other way around--ventless is worthless, since I don't want to breathe combustion byproducts, and DV is great since it doesn't use interior conditioned air and exhaust it to the outside.
@themoy08
@themoy08 3 жыл бұрын
@@wadepotter5377 if you love pumping water vapor into your I guess it's cool
@dougdiplacido2406
@dougdiplacido2406 Жыл бұрын
@@wadepotter5377 Ventless fireplaces are 95 % efficient. I do not want to breathe in the other 5 %. Every time I go into a home with a ventless I can smell the fumes.
@mudpuddle8333
@mudpuddle8333 Жыл бұрын
hey Matt... I love that sheathing for use as floor protection... you can lay it over your hardwood floors, tape the seams together.. and reuse it many times on future projects... It sucks for house sheathing though.. just like you said
@timohan100
@timohan100 5 жыл бұрын
Can't agree with you on direct vent gas fireplaces. I was in the hearth industry for a long time in northern Minnesota. Horizontal venting does not leak air into the house when installed properly. There are a number of products, including high-heat caulk, that work great at sealing the house and keeping it air tight. Additionally, the stand-off for the pipe is typically less than a foot since the hot exhaust gasses run on the inside pipe, not the outside. You can't can't run a fireplace, gas or wood, that is more energy efficient that DV gas. You can also make them look nice with accessories like screen doors that hide the glass. I do agree that cheap builders boxes, like the one in your clip, are an eyesore. Lastly, DV gas fireplaces run electricity free and can be placed on a thermostat. I lived in Duluth, MN and was without power for 4 days, but the house was toasty warm the entire time. Average temp that week was about 15 degrees. We actually had neighbors stay with us since their furnaces couldn't run. You really need to do some research before you knock a product that you are unfamiliar with.
@TC-to9jh
@TC-to9jh 5 жыл бұрын
I agree 100%.Direct vent or vent free are very efficient.If installed correctly all air gaps are sealed with the correct sealant..👍
@philbuilds116
@philbuilds116 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the direct vent. They can be sealed with ease. I don't like ventless simply because they put a ton of moisture into the air. Especially if it's propane. Put one into our shore house and the condensate on the windows and colder outside facing walls was crazy.
@danielbrown6448
@danielbrown6448 5 жыл бұрын
I just had a direct vent natural gas fireplace unit installed and the tech put Roxul insulation around the flex pipe. My opening is insulated and sealed with caulc. A must in Canada.
@boby115
@boby115 5 жыл бұрын
Tim you are exactly right. Apparently Matt's experience with direct vent fireplaces are limited considering he lives in Texas. I've worked for the natural gas utility in St Louis Missouri for more than 35 years and serviced almost every brand manufactured to date. When installed correctly direct vent fireplaces are the only way to go. Matt is correct when he stated to avoid vent free fireplaces. Plus I'm a little confused what type of fireplace Matt would install . Are you saying not to install a fireplace at all?. I was without electric for 24 hours and my direct vent fireplace kept my house at a toasty 64 degrees when the high temperature in my neighborhood was at 24 degrees for the day and a low of 5 degrees at night.
@brentlloyd7908
@brentlloyd7908 5 жыл бұрын
Have to agree with you Tim.
@truckman63
@truckman63 5 жыл бұрын
2 words Smart trim, I can't tell you how many i've seen these beautiful homes with that coated OSB trim.
@Rickfyoutube
@Rickfyoutube 4 жыл бұрын
The trim in my house is coated MDF.
@02dag32
@02dag32 4 жыл бұрын
OSB is a fire trap
@inspectordan
@inspectordan 4 жыл бұрын
@@02dag32 OSB = Oriented Sponge Board
@markusenns6402
@markusenns6402 3 жыл бұрын
Very Good points. Worked in Plumbing Sales as a construction noob. Got in a lot of trouble for trying to sell someone a direct vent gas fireplace....
@carbide1968
@carbide1968 4 жыл бұрын
I have never seen a critical video on bad products and i loved it. We non builders don't have the time to research everything that is put in our new home. There's to much to deal with as it is
@89Ayten
@89Ayten 5 жыл бұрын
It seems the warm, dry and generally forgiving climate of Texas allows builders some latitude in cheapening out their specs and having the defeciencies be unoticable for a few years. In upstate NY the home owner will have the architect & GC on the phone in the first winter.
@fljetgator1833
@fljetgator1833 5 жыл бұрын
North Texas AND Austin are as the same as N.Y... The yankees are ALL OVER the place mister. And no matter what.. They'll complain. It's their natural DNA code
@rubenp8750
@rubenp8750 5 жыл бұрын
Houston is not dry and they still use some of the same materials. Same foil covered cardboard sheathing. They should be shot!
@donchristie420
@donchristie420 5 жыл бұрын
Also in Illinois
@wjf213
@wjf213 5 жыл бұрын
Good video. I've been saying the same thing for over 20 years about Tyvek and how it's junk, but at the same time, you HAVE to have the holes in it or vapor drive will soak your insulation. I seen that happen so many times back in Wisconsin. In the winter time, moisture wants to go from hot to cold, and that's why homes are so dry in the winter, because vapor drive has the warm moist air wanting to go through your wall to the colder outside. If you have Tyvek with no holes, all that moisture will condensate on your plastic and sit in your walls and then you have a disaster on your hands. It's like laying a sheet of plastic on your lawn and see how much moisture condensates on it in 10 minutes, but that's the inside of your walls. It's the same thing with your garage floor in the summer, and why it is soaking wet. The moisture in the air condensates on the cooler garage floor making it wet. I always had to smile and walk away when I hear people say it's moisture coming UP through the floor from the ground. I mean that's like saying my cold beer is coming through the glass bottle when I take it out of the refrigerator and set it on the table. I've always said Tyvek is like wrapping your home with a furnace filter....it filters out the bugs as the wind blows through it. Now I spray foam and never worry about vapor drive again. If the warm moist inside air does not know it's cold outside, it has no reason to be attracted to your walls. Plus spray foam actually glues your home together and I read an article many years ago from....I believe Texas A&M, about how spraying foaming increases your homes strength by 20%, and that's a lot when you're talking hurricane force winds. Anyway, keep up the great work.
@TheRickJames
@TheRickJames 5 жыл бұрын
You comment makes no sense, you dont put tyvek and insulation together, they shouldn't even be touching each other. Tyvek goes over wood like OSB. And behind that wood is your insulation. And if you used regular waterproof plastic it would do exactly what you described because it would pool water vapor. They are permeable for a reason...
@lightning9279
@lightning9279 5 жыл бұрын
I always thought house wraps were meant to be breathable. The hung plastic on the inside of the house behind the drywall is the leak proof barrier. The breathable outside wrap is designed to let air pass in and out so any accumulated water behind the wrap can evaporate. Am i missing something?
@michaely.9149
@michaely.9149 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you're putting the wrap on the wrong side of the walks.
@josephmalika3100
@josephmalika3100 5 жыл бұрын
The reason the house wrap has holes is to allow moisture to pass through in cold climates. When houses started getting built (tight) there were a ton of water issues inside due to the house wrap not breathing. A house wrap isn’t meant to keep your insulation dry forever that’s what siding does.
@DavidJGillCA
@DavidJGillCA 4 жыл бұрын
That's right. Matt's not thinking. The moisture for a house in a cold climate is INSIDE the house. Is that different in a hot humid Southern location that not subjected to freezing? I'll let someone else say.
@choimdachoim9491
@choimdachoim9491 4 жыл бұрын
​@@DavidJGillCA In Southern California, a basically hot, dry climate where everything dies in the Spring and sprouts green in the Winter, the house-wrap is to allow air-borne moisture to escape the interior of the home. As people sleep at night they exhale an completely unbelievable amount of moisture into the house atmosphere. If the house is wrapped in non-permeable plastic that moisture soaks into the walls and over time the interior of the drywall, etc., becomes moisture-laden or the water pools up at the bottom of all interior walls. We use mostly Stucco in SoCal and the Stucco actually "breathes" rather than be water-proof.
@ionstorm66
@ionstorm66 3 жыл бұрын
@@choimdachoim9491 Most newer nice homes have a dedicated dehumidifier, as well as heat pump water heaters. They will remove any excess moisture from inside the home. If you have SO much humidity inside that its soaking though the drywall, insulation and framing, and going out the sheathing, you have issues elsewhere.
@srzy
@srzy 2 жыл бұрын
@@choimdachoim9491 stucco breathes but what about the tar paper under it? for decades now tar paper has been used under stucco.
@choimdachoim9491
@choimdachoim9491 2 жыл бұрын
@@ionstorm66 It's worth checking...people breathe out pints of water vapor each night during sleep and during the day while inside the home. The number is so high that I find it difficult to believe so I won't state it.
@alanrenaud5179
@alanrenaud5179 5 жыл бұрын
Please do more research, regarding Fireplaces - Selkirk offers an insulation for use with their Cathedral Box, Attic Shields, and Wall Thimbles. The insulation helps to keep heat in vent/chimney, and reduces air infiltration into the home.
@cliftonobrien588
@cliftonobrien588 5 жыл бұрын
I agree with the cardboard sheathing. That's just ridiculous and I've never even heard of it in Canada. Although when it comes to the recessed tankless unit, I know that with all the window flashings and waterproofing details you know so well, you could come up with a great way to seal that unit. Also we use double wall vents on our fireplaces that can be spray foamed around.
@chipholland9
@chipholland9 5 жыл бұрын
Tankless heater - dollars to donuts, when it comes time to replace it, the new model won't fit in the recess.
@MartinKL
@MartinKL 5 жыл бұрын
Good point, Chip. They'll probably install the new unit on the inside wall and leave the old unit there!
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn 5 жыл бұрын
🍩🍩🍩
@gavincurtis
@gavincurtis 5 жыл бұрын
Like those houses of late 90’s that had the huge cutouts for the massive projection TVs. Oops, how is my new 16:9 ratio HD set going to fit into the old 4:3 hole? Oops, how can I hang my new 4K TV on the wall where this old 16:9 projector TV hole is? It’s big enough to be a closet.
@rixtunz3625
@rixtunz3625 5 жыл бұрын
wet bar was my use but there was a lav on the other side of the wall so water, drain and a vent, were just right there.
@DanielRichards644
@DanielRichards644 5 жыл бұрын
so don't build a recess, flush mount it to the damn wall.
@stepside2839
@stepside2839 5 жыл бұрын
Ceramic Insulation for the thru-the-wall vent pipe. Classified to 1600°C or 2912°F And R-10 per inch.
@inspectordan
@inspectordan 4 жыл бұрын
It's not just the risk for fire from contact between the metal exhaust and combustibles....it's the risk for deformation of the vent pipe if its heat isn't allowed to dissipate into free air.
@hailexiao2770
@hailexiao2770 4 жыл бұрын
Yeah I'm gonna doubt that. The best spray foam is R-7.4 per inch on a good day.
@stepside2839
@stepside2839 4 жыл бұрын
@@hailexiao2770 I think you need to research ceramic fiber blanket. And, depending on what # density, you will find it is used for thermal insulation of stoves, fireplaces, pizza ovens, kilns, forges, furnaces.
@johnbonham9422
@johnbonham9422 5 жыл бұрын
Some gas venting basics are required here. The gas vent is constructed of a smaller 4 inch pipe inside a larger 10 inch pipe. This is called a coaxial vent. The hot air pipe is in the center of the cool air pipe. There is an air gap in between the 2 pipes which limits the heat transfer. The outside of the 10 inch pipe is cool to the touch. If it wasn't constructed this way, your house would catch fire. Cool air for burning is drawn into the firebox via the circular air gap between the diameters of the 2 pipes. The clearance required between the cool outer pipe and combustible materials is one inch minimum, that is what the wall adapter plate is for. The gap you show in this video can be sealed using regular silicone. The firebox is sealed and allows no air to flow in or out of the house. Hot air is circulated by a fan around the outside of the sealed firebox to extract heat from the unit and heat the room. Very efficient and no drafts, they are completely sealed. The high temperature silicone sealant everyone in this threat is referring to is used to seal the inner pipe to prevent it from leaking carbon monoxide. The firebox does get quite hot and the typical requirement is for non combustible material 12 inches above and 4 inches per side. This means you need metal studs, concrete board and clay tiles at these boundaries.
@AJourneyOfYourSoul
@AJourneyOfYourSoul 5 жыл бұрын
Great video. It is getting to the point where if you can't go full custom build, do a remodel of an older home instead. Tract/spec houses are thrown together with whatever is the cheapest stuff they can get away with. Lots of these tract/spec houses are going to need major and expensive fixes in 10 years or less.
@danburch9989
@danburch9989 5 жыл бұрын
AJourneyOfYourSoul You’d be fortunate if the home outlasted the mortgage
@vdpeer
@vdpeer 5 жыл бұрын
No, not all spec homes are done cheaply. I know, because I have built very high quality specs in my time, not going cheap just for a bottom line result.
@clsanchez77
@clsanchez77 5 жыл бұрын
Agree. Dixon will be the exception, not the rule lol. I am in New Orleans and all the reconstruction I saw after Hurricane Katrina was fast and cheap. The only true quality houses I saw were the one where the home owner did not rush the job, vetted the contractors/subs and timeframe was well over a year. Texas home builders seem to have the worst reputation around here. Well, for me and my wife, the housing market crashed and the pregnancy test said time was not on our side. We purchased a good quality home that was built in 1972 instead of building new. The insulation and HVAC are lacking, but all other aspects of the house were sound. In about 10 years I will have the mortgage paid and will then start replacing the roof, insulation and all mechanical. Many people I know who built new homes after Katrina are already having problems with them; the biggest one being mold due to improper sealing and venting.
@davidk7544
@davidk7544 5 жыл бұрын
Yep. I bought one. My first house. Sold it for a tidy profit too. It was a complete piece of crap and an embarrassment.
@rbarbour8
@rbarbour8 5 жыл бұрын
Had a ventless gas FP in my home since 1996. Never had an issue with it and I still never have to turn it past the lowest setting. It feels good on cold winter nights and when it finally fails, it'll be replaced with another. Say what you want about 'em, they are a thumbs up in my opinion.
@donavonlewis1039
@donavonlewis1039 3 жыл бұрын
Matt, if direct vent gas log is a bad idea then what is the difference in the venting of a tankless water heater venting through the roof?
@dennykeaton9701
@dennykeaton9701 Жыл бұрын
Switch to an electric heat pump water heater.
@tonynewsomjr.4043
@tonynewsomjr.4043 5 жыл бұрын
I know someone that lives in a multi million dollar mansion that went double over budget and 2 plus years over build deadline and has only been lived in for two years and is constantly having issues all over the house especially with the geothermal set up and I'm constantly finding things that were done wrong and with no care for the customer and longevity of the house. Would love for u to come out and do an episode on the house. Maybe she could build a portfolio and she the builder or inspectors or something lol
@yippie21
@yippie21 5 жыл бұрын
pinhole wrap is PERFECT for my old-style breathing house! heh
@2Truth4Liberty
@2Truth4Liberty 5 жыл бұрын
I plan to use that perforated house wrap to wrap mineral wool batts for an itch free installation in the attic rafters :-0)
@2Truth4Liberty
@2Truth4Liberty 5 жыл бұрын
I'll have a a fully secured 3/4" plywood floor under me (on top of attic joists) so not likely to fall through that. The rafters are at a steep angle (10/12 pitch - 40 degrees) so I may have to tack something to hold them up in place until I can put a thin layer of foam board under them :-0) HEY! Wait a minute! How did you know my living room was under my attic?
@hailexiao2770
@hailexiao2770 4 жыл бұрын
Nah you'd want something that actually blocks water while being super vapor permeable, like Tyvek.
@sqike001ton
@sqike001ton 5 жыл бұрын
For the gas vent pipe you can use flue pipe cement its used all the time were I live to seal around bolier vents
@tolgaozarslan7082
@tolgaozarslan7082 Жыл бұрын
We installed a direct vent fireplace as an insert into an old wood burning fireplace during our renovation. It brings in fresh air from the chimney and exhausts back to chimney via stainless steel pipes. Chimney is sealed off with a cap and this fireplace is a sealed box unit with no air leak whatsoever and works wonderfully for us.
@DonTruman
@DonTruman Жыл бұрын
Matt, what we ordinary people need are construction techniques that most any builder can do well. We who aren't millionaires can't afford to hire engineers or elite contractors to build our homes. So, if there are products and/or design strategies that can produce a good envelope that most any contractor can do, that's what we need.
@stephenroberts4155
@stephenroberts4155 5 жыл бұрын
sorry, you're talking out your rear about direct vent fireplaces. They are great product. They provide an economical power free heat source that can be thermostatically controlled even in a power outage. Just because you've never seen one installed correctly, doesn't mean its a bad product. Stick to your own trade. FYI you can use high temp silicon to seal the termination inside and regular silicon outside. On top of that, standard practice is to use firerated drywall and durarock in the concealed area. - Stephen the licensed gasfitter
@Ratboy2004
@Ratboy2004 5 жыл бұрын
Gas fireplaces are just dumb and waste a load of N. The emissions are awful compared to a HE furnace. Gas fireplaces are for the lazy or incapable of starting a wood fire, which is by definition a "fireplace" not a glass enclosed burner with asbestos glowing on plaster logs.
@stephenroberts4155
@stephenroberts4155 5 жыл бұрын
.... I mean..... that's a special kind of.... I mean.... really?
@jacobmiller6664
@jacobmiller6664 5 жыл бұрын
My house is heated by a wood fireplace, and I definitely like wood fires more, but the people buying million dollar homes where I work dont want to use wood, and like you said, they dont know how, so gas is the way to go since they all seem to love how they look and say they "need" a fireplace.
@DanielRichards644
@DanielRichards644 5 жыл бұрын
Ratboy, how well does that HE Furnace work for you when the motherfucking POWER IS OUT, these are for aesthetics and EMERGENCY HEAT, also real nice to be able to turn the fire off and not have to wait hours upon hours for the logs to finish burning.
@workingshlub8861
@workingshlub8861 5 жыл бұрын
direct vent gas heaters are great..up here in new england we install them all the time..apartments that had all electric baseboard for example ..not always practical to install furnace and run ductwork.
@soburnedout
@soburnedout 4 жыл бұрын
Totally- the wrap is orientation specific. I mean cmon man- it’s not meant for horizontal installation.
@petset77
@petset77 5 жыл бұрын
Some comments do reply to variables, but I totally agree with the recessed water heater box complaint. The example shown is in a garage anyway, so why not install it inside of the space where it not only is protected from weather (especially COLD weather), but can be accessed for service or replacement. Also agree with the exterior wall cardboard sheathing. One very important job for sheathing is to stiffen the structure... especially when using vinyl lap siding or other thin veneers of any kind.
@tcbridges
@tcbridges 4 жыл бұрын
Love all your videos. Watch them over and over. I just finished having a house framing near Nashville and we used Zip panels on all sides & the pink on the roof. Love it but a little pricey by the time was all done. Man that tape is pricey when used properly but air tight. Read for siding now. But what isn't if you want it right these days
@cavokdotcom
@cavokdotcom 4 жыл бұрын
Matt, I'm with you on most of this stuff, but I'm curious if we could use something like Kaowool or other ceramic insulations designed for kilns and other hot work applications to break that air leak possibility. They should have no problem being against a fireplace vent..
@charlesrodriguez7984
@charlesrodriguez7984 2 жыл бұрын
I was thinking about that too. Non flammable and extremely heat resistant. Should work fine.
@DennisMathias
@DennisMathias Жыл бұрын
Gez, just caulk it with RTV.
@bobbybeast265
@bobbybeast265 5 жыл бұрын
There are many products available for sealing the flue of a direct vent gas fireplace. If you have a quality fireplace, it will tell you right in the user manual what product to use.
@dontblameme6328
@dontblameme6328 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but none of them have agreed to sponsor this channel soooo..... They all suck.
@enigma9789
@enigma9789 4 жыл бұрын
Literally any high temp silicone would work amazing.
@mayormc
@mayormc 4 жыл бұрын
I immediately furnace cement would easily do the trick.
@eighthof8
@eighthof8 5 жыл бұрын
BTW - It's great to see so many opinions and suggestions here. NIce to know there's still so many that are interested in the trades. I say, thank you!
@r.e.7732
@r.e.7732 5 жыл бұрын
House Wrap is absolutely supposed to be sealed Air Tight and is what would be considered water proof if done properly. Your cladding hopefully will shed the majority of the water but there will always be some moisture behind it due to condensation and the effect of wind loading driving moisture behind it. This can be helped by strapping your walls and creating an air gap between your exterior wall and cladding, but the building envelope still requires a Weather resistant barrier(Tyvec) to protect the structure from water. When Building an energy efficient house the principles are similar if you are in a heating or cooling climate. The main difference is going to be the direction of your vapor drive. In a HEATING CLIMATE the vapor drive will be from the humid warm interior to the dryer colder exterior. So you want the Vapor permeability of your materials to increase as you get closer to the exterior side of your wall. This encourages any condensation or moisture the happens to get in your wall to move to the exterior and dry. This is why 6 mill poly is used on the warm side of wall and Tyvec on the exterior. This guy is right in the sense that using a plastic wrap with holes in it is a bad Idea. You want your WRB Layer(tyvec) to be Air Tight but vapor permeable. You can and want as many Air barriers in your building Envelope as you can manage, but only one vapor barrier. If you take a section of your house you should be able to follow the air barrier layer with your finger in a complete circle around it without lifting your finger from the drawing. This layer can be your tyvec or 6 mill poly, or a combination or something else. A few of other items the guy mentions are going to be subject to your construction environment. Some materials and methods that are perfectly acceptable in Texas would be a disaster in Seattle.
@Bigrignohio
@Bigrignohio 5 жыл бұрын
The flue in a direct vent can be sealed with high-temp caulking and insulated with types of rockwool. Did I miss the "insulating paint" and radiant film in attic spaces?
@brandonmadaris1495
@brandonmadaris1495 4 жыл бұрын
In regards to the fireplace, where to start.... I am a certified Master Hearth Professional by The National Fireplace Institute and I have been installing these direct vents for years. Yes, I agree, that is a cheesy log set in that fireplace. It is also one of the cheapest direct vents on the market (builder grade). It's not designed to look that great or provide a lot of heat. Builders buy these to say that the house has a gas fireplace and that it is a direct vent. There are several direct vent fireplaces that have an extremely "real" looking log set and can be used as a secondary, if not a main, source of heat. I also agree that you cannot insulate around the pipe. But you can seal it and that is done around the cap on the outside of the house with 100% silicon. That mitigates any transfer of air from the outside to the heating envelope of the house. When properly installed, direct vents are the best fireplace option when it comes to efficiencies, safety and indoor air quality. Vent free products release the byproducts of combustion into the house( C0, C02, H20), and vented products(wood-burning or B-Vent) leave a direct hole that is between 5-15" in diameter from your living space to the outside through which a great deal of your conditioned air will flow. Direct vent fireboxes are completely sealed off from the inside of the house. All of the combustion air it needs draws from the outside through the pipe and it also exhausts through a different chamber in the pipe. So, yes, if you are going to have a fireplace in your house and you are worried about indoor air quality and not loosing any of your conditioned air(that you have to pay for) I would go with a direct vent everyday of the week. No question.
@michaelbarnhill2685
@michaelbarnhill2685 4 жыл бұрын
So question, he mentions nothing can touch the exhaust pipe. Does this apply the heat ducts? My basement got wet on my RV during the flood 2wks ago in Texas. RV is fine. The insulation got wet. So...im replacing the basement fiberglass insulation. There is 2 heat vents running thru the basement, and im curious how to insulate around them. Furnace is propane. Insulation is the PinkPanther fiberglass insulation. Im halfway thru with the project, and as of today...the heater vent ducts have the fiberglass upagainst them. I removed the paperbacking from the insulation, beings that it will be near the heater vent ductwork
@briank3557
@briank3557 5 жыл бұрын
Everyone here in St. Louis loves ventless fireplaces. I personally love and have a wood burning fireplace which although not masonry is way better. Yeah you have to build it, but when you build it right and it's crackling along; it was worth it.
@MaddRamm
@MaddRamm 4 жыл бұрын
On the last one about the hot vented fireplace, you can seal it with fireproof caulk. I use it all the time on induction motors on gas packs and exhaust stacks for restaurants. It’s red and rated for heat
@robertmencl9169
@robertmencl9169 5 жыл бұрын
I love my direct vent gas heater and my tankless water heater. After 5 years I still have no leaks, no maintenance, and tremendously reduced my energy bills.
@dontblameme6328
@dontblameme6328 4 жыл бұрын
Yes but those manufacturers wouldn't sponsor the channel, so.........
@strandedorange9322
@strandedorange9322 5 жыл бұрын
Perforated house wrap is for vertical surfaces only. Pooling water on it while flat is not a true representation of performance. That being said, it is typically marketed and used as an all purpose house wrap when the design is really intended for cavity walls w/ wood structure.
@homecentral8409
@homecentral8409 5 жыл бұрын
House wrap is intended as an air infiltration barrier, not a water barrier.
@ajs031699
@ajs031699 5 жыл бұрын
and to boot if you watch carefully he moved the cup and wrap within the supposed 4 minute time frame its comical to watch
@stiggmint6226
@stiggmint6226 4 жыл бұрын
Home Central It’s not an air infiltration barrier. It’s a bulk water barrier.
@pdh7436
@pdh7436 4 жыл бұрын
No argument from me on any of these. I'm just a homeowner (Bi-level) in Cincinnati, OH. We built our home in 1980-81 from one of the cheapest builders around. It has the cardboard sheeting you mentioned. We have never had an issue in 40 years. We did have a major issue with the poured concrete foundation when the steel clips to hold the forms rusted out. The leak cost us new carpeting and drywall in the lower level family room.
@ChrisGilliamOffGrid
@ChrisGilliamOffGrid 4 жыл бұрын
Funny, I'm working in Amberly atm. Remodeling a house from 58.
@sawhite27
@sawhite27 5 жыл бұрын
Usually find your videos informational/helpful; but gotta tell you that in Upstate NY (practically Canada), my Direct Vent Propane fired fake logs fireplace has saved my "arse" every winter when the electric power is cut for a week at a time AND during the worst week of the winter (without fail, every year, for 20+ years) - the girls hit the button, step back and enjoy the warmth until I can get back home to start up our 13kW generator.
@MewCat100
@MewCat100 5 жыл бұрын
House wrap is not intended to create a water-tight barrier. It is designed to create a wind barrier, to reduce air infiltration and wind-driven rain. It is not meant to be water tight, but rather to allow moisture to pass through (namely from inside of the building to outside to prevent mildew and mold).
@lothianmcadam1
@lothianmcadam1 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Had Risinger done even a smidgeon of research by parsing product documentation within a handful of manufacturer sites, or perhaps discussed the merits of his speculative complaints with a given product's support representative, he might have a different perspective on some of the items that vex him as "dumb products". Risinger should pull this video, or at the very least edit it with accurate information.
@bradmaggard1996
@bradmaggard1996 5 жыл бұрын
Shouldn't we just keep the water out all together?
@nicktecky55
@nicktecky55 5 жыл бұрын
Isn't this what they used to use tar paper for? Placed under roof tiles on a pitched roof, they used chicken wire mesh to support it, at least they did on my house. It breathes to prevent rot in the case of any water ingress, in strong winds for example. And stops draughts through the attic, which would otherwise be very cold in winter. Of course they knew diddly squat about insulation back then!
@dallashopkins884
@dallashopkins884 5 жыл бұрын
I was wondering when some one was going to get it correct! Very well stated MewCat100. Your Vapor Barrier is installed on the INTERIOR side of the wall. House wrap on the EXTERIOR wall, and is designed to allow the wall to breath, and any moisture to escape, thus preventing rot and/or mold from occurring in the wall cavity., and preventing winds and drafts from penetrating. I'm old school, and could never understand why Celotex, and 15# Building Paper are rarely used anymore. Your Building is suppose to BREATHE !!
@MewCat100
@MewCat100 5 жыл бұрын
Yes. Your last sentence is key and the phrasing is perfect. Buildings need to breathe, which is to say that air exchange MUST occur. The new "super-sealed" houses in my area, the ones that use spray foam insulation and thus have no vapor exchange at all, have vent fans that run 24/7 to keep air moving. I'd hate to rely on a mechanical device that can and will fail when I could just have passive vapor exchange. In fact, one of those homes had mildew in the first year after construction. An overly tight house is NOT a good thing. It is the same reason I tell people not to put plants right against the house, but to put them out at least 3 feet from the foundation. Let air move in and around your home to avoid the fungi and mildews that grow in damp, stale environments. Humans produce moisture by sweating and breathing as well as by cooking, showering, etc. If that moisture is trapped in the home, nasty things will grow. Vent fans, A/C, and heating systems are not enough to condition the air to avoid these problems. A home MUST breathe.
@kylemacht
@kylemacht 5 жыл бұрын
My top DUMBEST product is easily insulating paint!! A huge scam that keeps coming back every couple years. I almost had clients insulate their home with this, before they came to me.
@ckm-mkc
@ckm-mkc 5 жыл бұрын
There are some insulating paints that actually work - some of them were developed for protecting parts of the space shuttle. It's basically hollow ceramic microspheres suspended in paint. Works really well, I use it in engine bays and bare floors when restoring vintage cars. The temperature difference can be as much as 40 degrees or more. Surfaces that would burn you are now only warm. But this is specific application, I don't think it would do anything on a house....
@kylemacht
@kylemacht 5 жыл бұрын
I believe that does not actually count as insulation it just changes the radiation properties due to emissivity. (I'm not sure that is technically correct, but it is something like that) In terms of insulation for a home with a much lower delta T across the thermal control layer the paint does not actually reduce heat flow. There have been tests run to show that "insulating paint" has no benefit for insulating a home.
@kylemacht
@kylemacht 5 жыл бұрын
You are correct for extremely high temperatures. I have seen it used effectively for lowering the exterior temperature of flue pipes in mechanical rooms. I'm not sure that actually reduces the heat flow like actual insulation would. I guess this might be acting as a radiation barrier.
@kylemacht
@kylemacht 5 жыл бұрын
No I do not mean that, I wish I did. I mean paint that "claims" to act as insulation.
@pouetance
@pouetance 5 жыл бұрын
@@ckm-mkc These paints are radiant barriers not insulation. Heat can be transfered in 3 different ways : conduction, convection and radiation. An insulating material slow down conduction heat transfer while a radiant barrier slow down radiant heat transfers. A radiant barrier alone is totally useless in a house as most heat move through conduction and convection. The only exception would be the roof and your windows if you live in a very sunny climate. This is why green builders focus on improving the insulation (conduction resistance) and air tightness (convection resistance) of their house and not on radiant barriers.
@MrDsqrd222
@MrDsqrd222 4 жыл бұрын
Typical manual entry for a direct vent (concentric) fireplace. * HORIZONTAL VENT SECTIONS: A minimum clearance of 1" (25mm) at the bottom and sides and 2" (51mm) at the top of the vent pipe in all horizontal runs to combustibles is required except for clearances in appliance enclosures. Horizontal vent sections within enclosures require a minimum clearance of 9” (229mm) at the top of the vent pipe. See “MINIMUM CLEARANCE TO COMBUSTIBLE ENCLOSURES” section. Use firestop spacer W010-1777 (supplied) where vent pipe penetrates combustible walls. * VERTICAL VENT SECTIONS: A minimum clearance of 1" (25mm) all around the vent pipe on all vertical runs to combustibles is required except for clearances in appliance enclosures. Vertical vent sections within enclosures require a minimum clearance of 4" (102mm) to the sides of the vent pipe. See “MINIMUM CLEARANCE TO COMBUSTIBLE ENCLOSURES” section. Use firestop spacer W500-0292 (not supplied) where vent pipe penetrates combustible ceilings or floors.
@RollinShultz
@RollinShultz 4 жыл бұрын
I must agree with some of the others about venting with double and triple wall pipe. My flue goes up through the ceiling and trusses to the roof and a fake chimney. All the rest I agree with 100%. As to flashing foundation walls etc, I favor plastic covered mastic which comes by the roll.
@philbuilds116
@philbuilds116 5 жыл бұрын
Never heard of high temp RTV silicone? They're rated from 500-700 degrees. They also have other sealants rated up to 2000 degrees. It's not difficult or expensive to seal up a direct vent system properly.
@Bustermachine
@Bustermachine 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for reminding we live in sticks, packed with Styrofoam, wrapped in plastic, and sprayed with plaster.
@Dwayne_Bearup
@Dwayne_Bearup 4 жыл бұрын
Truly, home construction hasn't changed much since the stone age. The sticks and rocks we use to keep the waether off us are just prettier now.
@DougBe38
@DougBe38 5 жыл бұрын
I love the fact that you're super opinionated about your craft. I'm the same way when it comes to automotive. Keep it up!
@RT-tn4ry
@RT-tn4ry 5 жыл бұрын
Your not totally knowledgeable about these products ! Stop posting ! The cardboard sheathing does suck though.
@TexasBuilt71
@TexasBuilt71 4 жыл бұрын
I have a couple outbuildings, sides wrapped in Tyvec house wrap only. No leaks over couple years. One had a temporary roof covered with same materials for a couple months thru some storms. No leaks.
@BucksYTChannel
@BucksYTChannel 5 жыл бұрын
I thought the purpose of housewrap was to prevent air infiltration and drafts, but allow moisture to pass through - basically like the GoreTex jacket in the winter.
@p51abc
@p51abc 4 жыл бұрын
Goretex stops reasonable amounts of water.
@arcticelectric
@arcticelectric 4 жыл бұрын
depends on the type of wrap. in the north they want to prevent air and drafts, in the south we want to prevent moisture.
@Iain31313
@Iain31313 4 жыл бұрын
Joshua Powell in the US is there a requirement for clear cavities between the TF and the external facade? Here in the UK where we get a lot of wind driven rain and high exposure I typically see timber frame manufactures have a minimum 50mm clear cavity or have vertical battens (allows water ingress through external facade to flow downwards) with counter battens (hang facade if not using wall ties).
@KevinSmith-qi5yn
@KevinSmith-qi5yn 4 жыл бұрын
@@Iain31313 It's best practice to have a channel for moisture to exit the external façade. It's not always practice as it's not necessary in some places like the desert that sees 1~2" of precipitation yearly.
@13Bender31
@13Bender31 4 жыл бұрын
@Tony Humbert Not only that, he's using a horizontal test of standing water to a product that is meant for a vertical application. BTW the product is not advertised as "Waterproof".
@falconeer99
@falconeer99 5 жыл бұрын
I dont think that list was nearly long enough
@staycompassionate3811
@staycompassionate3811 5 жыл бұрын
Keep it going...
@refusoagaino6824
@refusoagaino6824 5 жыл бұрын
MDF
@ljprep6250
@ljprep6250 5 жыл бұрын
Yes, I'd like to see Matt's top 100 chitlist products.
@j.hankinsckd6858
@j.hankinsckd6858 5 жыл бұрын
@@refusoagaino6824 MDF, when used for the right application, is fine. Center panels for cabinet doors to be painted is one example.
@thenear1send
@thenear1send 4 жыл бұрын
Agreed I was surprised he mentioned he didnt like through wall window AC units. Same reasoning as the water heater. Now those are basically always a retrofit on an old house, but still water will get in.
@Sailor376also
@Sailor376also 4 жыл бұрын
Add roll fiber ridge vent to your list. In Michigan they do not vent sufficiently to cool the attic, summer or winter. They do not even allow sufficient air movement to prevent mold build up in the attic. They are the most common roof vent at the moment and worse than useless. Aluminum, cut in, pots are the same cost and 20 times more effective.
@become1wdeath
@become1wdeath 5 жыл бұрын
There are plenty of high heat sealers and insulation. Although I don’t really care for the fake logs either. Sometimes a wood fireplace is not allowed in the town / city so the fake one will suffice.
@Gixer750pilot
@Gixer750pilot 4 жыл бұрын
Paper should be used for 2 things. Writing ✍️ and wiping 🧻
@chodge8366
@chodge8366 5 жыл бұрын
dude...i absolutely love my ventless fireplace. 99% efficient. warms the house nicely
@tokyowarfare6729
@tokyowarfare6729 3 жыл бұрын
not sure if that is a joke, Is there any risk involved? does this need a vent for real? does the heat come from turning electricity into heat or gas into heat, where I would understand the risk.
@nschiemann1
@nschiemann1 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Matt, Great show! Question: Is there a good direct exhaust NG fireplace system you do like? Or is it Chimney or nothing? Thanks!
@keithdittmar1701
@keithdittmar1701 Жыл бұрын
Regarding the Direct Vent Fireplace: He quickly mentioned the vent pipe kit is a double pipe. The hot exhaust gas is carried in the inner pipe and cool exterior air for combustion is inside the outer pipe. I would use fire caulk or rock wool, but those pipes don't get hot like regular B-Vent pipe. I'm still a fan of direct vent fireplaces because people actually use them. They turn on or off with the flip of a switch, there's no clean up after use, they are more efficient than most other options, and they work when the power goes out. I also like wood burners but they require lots of maintenance, cleaning, and they're not efficient at all in a climate with more heating days than in south Texas. The last house I built my wife said "No more smoke in the house, No firewood inside the house, and No nasty ashes inside the house". I find that most wives prefer living with the fake fireplace.
@BobPritchard
@BobPritchard 5 жыл бұрын
Toll Brothers is one of the nations largest builders and they use the paper based sheathing. Terrible builder that relies on impressive initial looks and transient white collar buyers who will abandon the properties and get relocated after 3-5 years when everything is falling apart. Yep, I bought one of their houses:)
@NicholasLittlejohn
@NicholasLittlejohn 5 жыл бұрын
Sounds like a hefty toll indeed.
@nateintx4098
@nateintx4098 5 жыл бұрын
Toll Brothers house ...equivalent name is Walmart house
@tiawilliams5690
@tiawilliams5690 5 жыл бұрын
Toll Bros aren't cheap though.
@mattlane2282
@mattlane2282 5 жыл бұрын
troll brothers make real garbage...
@jamies327
@jamies327 5 жыл бұрын
Bob Pritchard another one of those type of Builders is d.r. Horton. my buddy bought one of their houses after 6 years the kitchen floor is bouncing. the connection rings on his Plumbing where all corroded and leaking in his walls. he had a water stain in his ceiling because someone faced nailed shingles on his roof. even though every house settles his was ridiculous. every room has massive cracks in all the corners. none of the doors in the house will open properly now. but man it look really impressive when he first bought it. 3 years past his warranty!
@DanielRichards644
@DanielRichards644 5 жыл бұрын
housewrap isn't meant to be 100% waterproof, a house needs to be able to BREATH so any moisture in the wood sheathing can escape out through the housewrap, your SIDING and Flashing should keep water off your housewrap directly and the small amounts that get through don't have penetrating power to blast through a vertical housewrap.
@southerndraw8215
@southerndraw8215 4 жыл бұрын
On the vireplace vent use a product called RTV it’s good for continuous 400-600 degree exposure and can withstand up to 900 degrees before degrading. Also good for dealing as it is extremely tacky, expands and contracts, along with sticking to most any surface. We use this product on industrial boilers in a power plant. Mostly used for doors and piping gasket but easily withstands the heat.
@georgecraytin9838
@georgecraytin9838 2 жыл бұрын
The little test on house wrap shows your misunderstanding of the building systems. First it would not be used on a flat surface and second you want it to breath. You do not want a plastic bag over your house. Mold and moister will just ruin the house
@turi-geza
@turi-geza 5 жыл бұрын
Cardboard sheathing : ))) You made my day : ) I really hope it is not as widespread as you say.
@jerrellbevers6071
@jerrellbevers6071 5 жыл бұрын
I've installed it in every major city in Texas and in surrounding states. This was years ago but I know it's still used in track houses built in central Texas. Some codes make you put some metal on your walls as you approach the coast.
@Obshowersyndicate
@Obshowersyndicate 4 жыл бұрын
In maryland back in the 80s and 90s they built a lot of house's and townhomes out of this crap it still blows my mind
@karlzimmer683
@karlzimmer683 4 жыл бұрын
We are going in the wrong direction. Implement concrete construction.
@dwh5512
@dwh5512 4 жыл бұрын
It's not & it's not being used a sheathing. The idiot in the video call the vabor barrier sheathing what a dope.
@chrissutter7661
@chrissutter7661 4 жыл бұрын
I've seen the paper sheathing a few times during remodels here in Hawaii. And yes the original builders do use it as sheeting. Studs, cardboard, then lap siding. Some may say that the shear is coming from cross bracing from straps but there were none to be found. Just because it's not used in all areas doesn't mean he's wrong about it being used.
@NoflectioN
@NoflectioN 5 жыл бұрын
The soft handed super builder strikes again
@elliotmaleski5275
@elliotmaleski5275 4 жыл бұрын
Mhcp I’ve never been able to put my finger on what I don’t like about this guy. That is such a poignant insult.
@hhiippiittyy
@hhiippiittyy 4 жыл бұрын
@@elliotmaleski5275 He's the guy with the shiny pickup on low profile tires that sells the job. Not the guy with the dusty pickup on proper tires that actually does the job. Whatever product has the highest margin is the one he will argue is best for the customer. Soft hands indeed.
@somebody6048
@somebody6048 2 жыл бұрын
The direct vent gas fireplace is actually illegal under the mechanical code and building code. And of course the ventless gas fireplace is really illegal. As the combustion by product must be vented and terminated 10 feet above the highest window of the residence. And these direct vent gas fireplace are usually vented to the outside of the wall that is not 10 feet higher than the windows on the 2 floor or even the windows on the 1st floor. The only way it would pass is at these building department that got their building official through cronyism so they don't know to not approve it because it is illegal and a hazard. As the combustion by product can migrate upward to the window on the second floor or even the first floor and now the residence is getting sick without knowing why. And the building code said that the final responsibility is still the contractor to do it right and make it safe, even if it is approved by the building official. So the direct vent gas fireplace is not just dumb but is a health hazard.
@seangina8097
@seangina8097 4 жыл бұрын
Good video.. Only issue....the direct vent fireplace part...there is caulk you could use for the vent..you said you can't put anything there when, in fact, there is high heat fireplace caulk that could be used.
@Candleknight
@Candleknight 5 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of this video is all the contractors and professionals in the comments stepping up their "uhm actually" and dropping some fact bombs! XD
@hailexiao2770
@hailexiao2770 4 жыл бұрын
My favorite part of this video is all the contractors and professionals in the comments stepping up their "uhm aktchually" and dropping the same BS that results in crappy construction today.
@YouTubeAIbot
@YouTubeAIbot 2 жыл бұрын
Anything to make an excuse to keep costs low and profits high
@MiserableOldFart
@MiserableOldFart 5 жыл бұрын
Wait! I have a direct vent kerosene heater in my house. The vent is a two way system, where the outside of the pipe draws cold air in for combustion and the inside forcibly exhausts the post combustion gases. The outside pipe never gets more than warm to the touch, and can have insulation and wood directly against it. Don't the gas units work the same way?
@joshua.snyder
@joshua.snyder 5 жыл бұрын
House wrap is for vertical application and the minimal moisture a wall faces, not a pool of water on the horizontal genius. It has to breath and will absolutely wick away what little moisture it encounters.
@dougdobbs4317
@dougdobbs4317 5 жыл бұрын
Ya you know what gets me! No matter how good the house wrap is it gets full of holes as soon as you apply siding. there must be a way to make it something like ice and water shield so when you nail through it it would seal around the nails or screws.peace
@imout671
@imout671 5 жыл бұрын
Your right about the house wrap. We do a lot of ultralight backpacking and we use small sheets of house wrap folded up in our back pockets to lay on during lunch breaks, door mats for our tents etc. Found out the hard way that tyvek is the only waterproof choice. The lowes brand lasts about 24 hours before it becomes worthless and you start getting wet
@Runslik3Wind
@Runslik3Wind 5 жыл бұрын
flyhound97 who cares? why is everyone so obsessed with correcting peoples grammar
@Runslik3Wind
@Runslik3Wind 5 жыл бұрын
r/iamverysmart
@Runslik3Wind
@Runslik3Wind 5 жыл бұрын
Whats a matter of opinion? you being an idiot?
@nowerries
@nowerries 5 жыл бұрын
How many people does it take to agree with Zoddhand before his opinon becomes fact? Because I agree you're being an idiot. I would also like to ad you are an overly critical a** hole.
@nowerries
@nowerries 5 жыл бұрын
lol it's ok just standing up for zodd cause you're a douche. You can keep telling yourself that all the mean things pepole say to you are just their opinons, but at some point maybe reflect on yourself to see if maybe what they are saying holds some merit. Or you can just keep correcting people like the fat little loser you are.
@brianw8411
@brianw8411 4 жыл бұрын
Every time I walk into a house with ventless fireplaces it smells like natural gas in the house. 🤢
@digitalconsciousness
@digitalconsciousness 3 жыл бұрын
Yep. I have one and don't use it. It smells very bad. I am designing a new house that will either have a real fire place or not one at all.
@SomeGuy-vo7we
@SomeGuy-vo7we 4 жыл бұрын
This guy is right about the tankless heater recessed into the wall, the paper sheathing, and paper flashing, but completely fucked up on the direct vent and woven house wrap.
@scottsworld21
@scottsworld21 4 жыл бұрын
So I’m building a house and it used to come standard with a ventless fireplace, but now they are using a 42in direct vent. So if you say these are a bad idea, what do you recommend? A wood burning fireplace with chimney? What are other alternatives you recommend?
@benmughal
@benmughal 4 жыл бұрын
So what kid of fireplace should you put in?
@davidthelibrarian
@davidthelibrarian 3 жыл бұрын
Yeah, he left that part out.
@oby-1607
@oby-1607 5 жыл бұрын
House wrap is not there to be waterproof. Its job is to slow airflow and therefore heat transfer. With the chipboard shown in these examples, if you were to install a waterproof membrane, the sheathing would be rotten in no time from the lack of water dissipation because of the water being trapped in the walls. All houses have a air exchange formula which is the amount of air moved through the building. There is an air quality index linked to this and contributes to the overall houses lifespan as well. A following side note is fireplaces have really no place in a modern building. This is only an expression of vanity and not reality. I'll take some hits for that but it is the truth. Otherwise, you points were well made.
@bunnybabybevytv6434
@bunnybabybevytv6434 4 жыл бұрын
That last pro tip really helped! Thank you for making this informative video.
@stiggmint6226
@stiggmint6226 4 жыл бұрын
Jacob McMahon This video is more misinformation than anything.
@robertscottII
@robertscottII 5 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your videos. I see your point on 4 of 5. Cannot for the life of me understand why anyone in good conscious build with paper products. Might as well live in a camper. My first house from the 70s I lived in some years back had like a 1/2" thick cardboard style siding. I could have literally punched through the wall. What a mess. There was so much water damage on every edge of those 4x8 sheets. I disagree with you on house wrap vs zip system. House wrap is not water proof but resistant, and I have had house wrap up by itself for a few months in the spring rain season and as long as it is shedding water it really won't penetrate. I'm not convinced the butted tape of the zip system is a better barrier than lapped house wrap.
@kenbrown2808
@kenbrown2808 4 жыл бұрын
recessed tankless: how do you change the housing when it rusts out?
@johnsmith9903
@johnsmith9903 5 жыл бұрын
kao wool high temp insulation is GREAT to have around
@jmackinjersey1
@jmackinjersey1 4 жыл бұрын
If you're going to install a fake fireplace, you might as well get the LED incerts, and many give of a decent amount of heat, plus you can turn it on any time of the year for the ambiance and not have the heat come out. Plus, they have some that look great, and can change the color of the flames.
@tedcruz8492
@tedcruz8492 2 жыл бұрын
That Thermo-ply sheathing still keeps me up at night. "He tore it with his hand.. how does that have shearing strength?"
@ToastCreativeWorks
@ToastCreativeWorks 5 жыл бұрын
These are really great videos, describing the do's and don'ts of building a house. As an electrician I see a lot of these products and as an electrician in Texas I find a lot of the building methods substandard/questionable at best. Matt thanks for making these videos! As a hopeful some day home buyer I'll be looking for the qualities you prescribe. This video especially was enjoyable, keep up the good work both on the job site and on KZfaq!
@doctorlarry2273
@doctorlarry2273 5 жыл бұрын
Forget everything you saw in this video since it is bogus.
@rtel123
@rtel123 5 жыл бұрын
my pet peeve trumps (pardon the pun) them all! 99% of our houses are plagued with aluminum gutters that have the front edge the same height as the back edge. One little downspout clog, and you have a 50% chance the overflow goes into your soffits! Furthermore, the bracket screws puncture the rear wall below the top edge, so even before an overflow, the water weeps past the screw and into the wood. After a few years, the wood rots around the screw and the gutter falls off. It would take nothing to make the back wall a bit higher than the front, but only a very few manufacturers do that.
@RodneyFisk
@RodneyFisk 5 жыл бұрын
Agreed. Gutter guards are also effective and help with that issue. == It greatly depends on the type of gutter guard, however. They are not made equal.== I have gutter guards on a set of buildings I maintain, and haven't had a single problem in 12yrs of installation.
@andreweastaughffe1070
@andreweastaughffe1070 5 жыл бұрын
we got around that here in Australia with our gutters the front is higher then the rear and has overflow holes just below the rear edge we use brackets to clip the gutter to the fascia with gap between the 2 we mostly have metal fascia's here. the fascia has a bracket attached to the rafter or truss tail and they use them to set the fall for the gutter and 99% of the time the soffit sheet fits into the back of the fascia around 10mm up zero chance of water entry except from the roof then
@bradanderson3828
@bradanderson3828 5 жыл бұрын
Jason Yanes no, the poster is correct. Even with flashing, and during a storm, you can have a problem. By design, it would be easy to have them spill over.
@HavanaWoody
@HavanaWoody 5 жыл бұрын
BAMN correct, I am facing exactly this issue now.
@timothygaits7972
@timothygaits7972 5 жыл бұрын
Its called home maintenance clean your gutters twice a year or pay a professional
@WillN2Go1
@WillN2Go1 5 жыл бұрын
Paper based building materials you say? Orangeburg. It is a paper sewage line. It's like a sonotube you bury in the ground. Apparently, during World War Two, to maximize metals for war production cardboard tubes were allowed to be used for sewer lines. I ran into this stuff at my in-laws' house in Los Angeles. The house was built in 1963. By the 1990s, the drains were backing up. I followed the problem to the steep hillside behind the house. Dug a hole looking for the 4" sewer line. What I found was a flattened cardboard tube. Over time this thing had collapsed flat. Who knows when it stopped working. I started reading my dad's builders magazines when I was a kid in the 1960s. There were many roofing, plumbing, sheathing, 'revolutionary new products!' they all had 100 year warranties. Within 15 years most of these products were off the market, involved in law suits, recalls. The paper punched wall product is supposed to be a cheaper version of Tyvek, which is a semipermeable membrane. Water droplets won't pass through Tyvek, but water vapor will. This is good. Tiny holes? Bad idea. A lot of this stuff seems designed to 'look like' the real thing, and to work for a while. In the long run these things are house killers.
@bengrogan9710
@bengrogan9710 5 жыл бұрын
A question on the point on direct vent fires Could you not seal the collar you mentioned with a product like Firegum that is used for sealing car exhausts in the same way? It goes on semifluid and sets when heat is applied the 1st time
@beliasphyre3497
@beliasphyre3497 5 жыл бұрын
Well, there's your mistake. The house isn't built to last. It's built to look pretty long enough the builder can disappear with the money.
@FesterPussbucket
@FesterPussbucket 5 жыл бұрын
Now that is the God's honest truth right there.
@TristynRusselo
@TristynRusselo 5 жыл бұрын
All those homes will be in the hands of the bank within 3 years of sale... so.. why bother?
@brandona.deimel5155
@brandona.deimel5155 5 жыл бұрын
The problem with many of these people that want to build houses "to last" is the price. If we built a foundation "to last" and built walls "to last" and built a roof "to last" none of us could afford a house at that point. This video points out that there are better options out there however it doesn't point out the cost of "building it to last" in all aspects of the house.
@FesterPussbucket
@FesterPussbucket 5 жыл бұрын
@@brandona.deimel5155 it used to be possible before communism, socialism, and swag took over. Now you have to be a super rich pajama boy with a PhD in Latte Machiato to afford amything. It's cool though. Change is coming. And when it does the streets will be paved with the teeth of the useless. The world is about to explode. WW III is coming. Germany is one vote away from becoming a Nazi state again. And that vote is next month. If the AFD win majority, the EU will implode and drag the world into a nasty war all over again. America doesn't have the scrotum or the balls in it that we used to to actually stick out and win a real war. The soldiers hands are hog tied by politicians and socialists. Way to go baby boomers. You have set the stage for a world war in a world that is totally interconnected and full of nuclear and biological weapons. The American dream is dead. So is any hope if advancement in humanity. Maybe after the great war we can get back to being a species of progress instead of a Bastian of bullshit. You pajama boys better cut back on the double soy expressos and bleach those teeth more. I want my driveway to shine.
@beliasphyre3497
@beliasphyre3497 5 жыл бұрын
Calm down matt mostowicz. There's no sense in frightening the sheep before you slaughter them. It spoils the meat. *If* you are right, we are far too close to the edge to turn the tide now. Best you can do is dig in and stay calm. Don't expose yourself or panic those around you, as they are far more likely to be a danger to you than to your enemy.
@captaingreenhat
@captaingreenhat 4 жыл бұрын
I despise house wraps of all sorts. I've been using zip panels since they came out.
@rockwellmath
@rockwellmath 10 ай бұрын
Direct venting is just fine if you vent it up through the ceiling, through the attic and up through the roof. And because of the lower temperature on the exterior surface of direct venting, any needed air sealing can be done with common high temp silicone, that's really not a problem at all. Direct venting exchanges the heat between the combustion intake and exhaust air, it's really a vast improvement over the old B vent systems.
@thor6997
@thor6997 5 жыл бұрын
As far as the tankless water heater goes also the water lines can and probably will freeze on an outside wall. I live in a Northern States and see it all the time.
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