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I've realized this when playing alpha sapphire as swampert, which I only chose initially bc he looked the coolest to me, I didn't need my team 99% of the time if I had swampert. For one, his level goes up super fast in that game, and his moves are devastating. It kills the fun for team building but I still gotta love the guy

Fun fact:Torterra has higher attack than Infernape. That’s surprising

You forgot that Emerald Wallace is problematic for Swampert, since his pokemon's STABs actually hurt it, plus Ludicolo completely shuts it down. Otherwise, that's pretty much it. It almost solo's the entire game unscathed.

As a fan of Swampert, this video puts a smile on my face. Also in later gens freeze dry is a problem for Swampert too, but who uses that.

Not surprised that Swampert is top of this list. Water/Ground is an amazing offensive and defensive type combination with only one weakness, and it's not super-common - while Water and Ground hit a wide variety of types neutrally or super-effectively - and Swampert's got the bulk and the power to make those attacks work.

Obviously when I was a kid I was doing the optimal strategy by just using swampert.

I remember when they introduced Mega Swampert, people apparently didn't know he was alerady 4x weak to grass, not that it mattered. Always chose mudkip, never failed to dominate the matches.

A good water type makes a team shine. If you choose a water type starter you are unlikely to be disappointed unless you roll a bad nature and bad overall stats, but that's true for any pokemon.

feraligatr deserves honorable mention, that guy can solo johto playthrough with little sweat

You're a mad lad bro. Primarina is criminally underrated and looked down upon.. especially due to its prior evolution..and you gave it the love it deserves

Damn right Primarina is good. Sparkling Aria is so useful simply because it can hit multiple targets, which is a godsend for most of the Totem fights and when enemy pokemon keep calling for reinforcements.

The only reason I disagree with Blastoise over Venasaur is because Kanto has no shortage of Water types. You can easily find another Water type to replace that spot in your team, Vaporeon, Gyarados, Lapras, Tentacruel, Slowbro, Starmie…I could go on. Meanwhile, your only option for a solid grass type is Oddish/Bellsprrout (which are version exclusives) or Exeggcute. From a team building standpoint, Venasaur is just more attractive to me. I also don’t think Venasaur falls off as hard you might think in the late game. It’s still useful against the final gym and numerous mons in the E4 and champion team. You won’t be sweeping an entire e4 member with Venasaur, but it will come in handy in more fights than not.

You forget to mention something important when you were talking about Primarina's moveset: It can also learn Energy Ball, which is absolutely insane.

Gen 2 typholsion should at least have a shoutout. Especially during the original games. The physical special stat split didnt happen yet and the amazing move pool he learns is amazing. Literally all you need is typholsion and lugia to beat the game especially in silver since you get lugia early

Okay but if you're talking G1 movesets venusaur with Toxic and leach seed (glitched effect) covers pretty much everything bar grass, poison and flying types add growth for the turns toxleach is doing its thing and razor leaf if you're impatient and you're good to go, my venusaur outlived blue's charizard using fire blast

Monferno actually learns Close Combat at 36 and then evolves immediately afterwards.

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I don’t agree with Blastoise being better than Venusaur. On the offensive side, it is clearly better, but Venusaur’s typing is better in a kanto playthrough than Blastoise’s pure water type. Plus, Venusaur can use leech seed, sleep powder and toxic, moves that are very useful and help the other pokémon of our team, and last but not least, there are better water types than Blastoise (Starmie or Lapras, for example) but Venusaur is very probably the best grass type in kanto. Your arguments for Blastoise are valid, I gotta be honest, and in the end, it’s also a matter of opinion and if you prefer playing Blastoise, well, enjoy ! And other than that, this is a really good video !

In defence of Venusaur (on gen 3) he can learn sludge bomb, Earthquake. Real powerhouse if you know what you're doing

Venusaur isn't bad against Agatha's poison....Venusaur is grass/poison type, and therefore virtually unaffected by poison, what it does struggle with with Agatha is her Golbat with Wing Attack and Dream Eater from her Haunter And Gengars

"This thing gets close combat at level 41!" *uses close combat at level 38

Snipe shot has a high crit chance though with the right kit it slaps

An argument against primarina is that ist has a poison weakness and can't defeat Team Skull. Yes, but it can learn Psychic from TM and kills every poison type. Primarina with Sparkling Aria, Ice Beam, Moon Blast and Pschic is so overpowered!

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Agree. I use Swampert. And when Swampert learn Earthquakes. It's become invincible

Finally, someone mentions Swampert and his 1 type weakness. I've been saying this since the beginning of gen 3 about Swampert and has been my fav of all time. My second fav would have to be Typhlosion with the move Thunderpunch (Gen 2) after teaching it to him at the Battle frontier.

I like how there is a dig cave with wild diglett and dugtrios next the LT. Surge. You even find some insane levels like 32-36. Stronger than his Raichu.

"It learns close combat at level 41"- Proceeds to use close combat at level 38

i use venusaur on my first kanto playthrough but found it bit really fun, specially the poison type when i use nidoking and gengar on my team then i switch to charizard, i really really want to use blastoise tbh but i plan on using lapras as my water pokemon in team 😅

I used my decidueye the wrong way. I was mainly using him as my resident Pokémon catcher mon as he has access to Foresight and False Swipe as well as being immune to normal moves which was very useful in stopping beldum from take down suicide so he effectively can bring any mon down to 1 HP so I brought another mon that had hypnosis or something to catch every mon in the game… this was the strat I used to get a beldum and Tapu Lele in a beast ball

I've been going through your videos slowly over the past 2 weeks, and this one i had to stop and say "caught that ridge racer type 4 song". Lol

It was refreshing how to-the-point this video was. I appreciated how you got right into the list.

Yeah, Swampert for the win!!!!! I love Blaziken and it was my first Pokémon in Sapphire, but....I gotta go for the mudfish.....

In gen 1, Bulbasaur has a lot more going for it than just it's type match-ups. It also has access to sleep powder (where sleep is broken in gen 1) and both Growth and Swords Dance, 2 of the best set-up moves in the game. Also, there are far more good water types easily available in gen 1 than there are grass types. To be honest though, I don't think there's a bad choice of starter in gen 1. All 3 can easily carry you through the game.

Wasn't surprised that my boy made it to the number 1 spot cuz its already super amazing

Great video, yeah, Swampert is really good, keep it up!

Saying Venusaur is anywhere near equal to Blastoise in Gen 1 is actually insulting. Charizard was used for Speedruns before people realized that Blastoise was the best starter in Kanto, and then people started doing Nidoking runs. Venusaur was never even considered. It's not even close.

I also always thought how dominant swampert in the normal game is... so I had the feeling that I already knew who would be number 1 :D

Rillaboom is actually very good. And works really well for switches.

Me, a grass-type lover, always played with Venusaur and Sceptile but my gameplays with Blastoise and Swampert were a BLAST. They could tank almost anything in the game while dealing a big amount of damage. They had my heart since then ❤️

With hidden abilities, Greninja and Cinderace would be at the top of this list.

I couldn't agree more, I love to see one of my fav Pokémon of all times (and my first pal) take the first spot in this classification, well deserved Swampert❤🎉

Glad to see Primarina getting some love. Easily my favorite starter pokemon :)

So Swampert is actually my favorite Pokémon of all time, and I clicked this just because I got excited when I saw one in the thumbnail just happy that he made this top five at all. But to see him top the list… It only makes me happier and realizes how Swampert is an even bigger tank than I had previously thought! Oh how I’ll always love my fully evolved mud fish…

Finally, the love primarina deserves 💖

Always enjoy seeing love to the Squirtle line

Infernape being fighting type and fast help it dominate Empoleon due to the otherwise good Water/Steel type combo.

"Infernape learns close combat at 41" Shows clip of infernape using close combat at 38

Swampert strongest Pokemon, even arceus is afraid of him.

I remember using swampert in the battle frontier, he carried me hard.

mudkip is my favorite starter of all time and this video put a smile in my face

The smith plays has returned

My own list, prior to watching the video. Honestly I'd like to just put Empoleon slot 5, but feel I ought to recognize how good Venusaur is, and should have at least one Grass type in the list. Venusaur or Torterra are basically the only Grass types that would make my cut, considering my relative dislike for mono-type Pokemon, Sceptile is still a contender despite that. 5. Venusaur 4. Greninja 3. Infernape 2. Blaziken 1. Swampert

Honorable mentions should've included Tepig/Emboar in Black/White. No starter has a positive MU on their first gym battle there but Tepig has the best one as it gets STAB Flame Charge and can steamroll once it gets a couple speed boosts on the leader's Lillipup After that, it beats Lenora, Burgh, has the best MU of the three vs Elesa, does fine vs Clay as it beats Excadrill and Krokorok, doesn't do too well vs Skyla but by then you can pair Flame Charge with Heat Crash or Rock Tomb and take down her fliers, then beats Brycen with ease and fares well vs Drayden's pure dragons. Furthermore, he has advantageous MUs vs Cheren's Liepard and Unfezant, Bianca's Stoutlant, N's Sandile, Scraggy, Boldore, Ferroseed, Joltik, Klink, Klinklang, Zoroark, Carracosta, Vanilluxe and even the legendary dragon if he has Earthquake. He also beats Grimsley' team by default as well as Ghetsis' Bouffalant, Hydreigon and Bisharp, and has a positive match up against most of Alder's team. You can easily clear the first half of BW with only Tepig which is a pretty tall order for Snivy and a fairly complex one for Oshawott, mainly because of how difficult Lenora Burgh and Elesa are for them.

Just here after watching your top 5 weakest starters btw and after this vid your fricking earned my sub! Somehow I really do agree to your list here.. Swampert was basically my go-to starter pokemon in all Gen 3 The guys a freak of nature and the thing that can stop it is nature itself (Grass)... While on Primarina, I'm all hands down to it... peopl hating poplio before the launch of Sun/Moon don't deserve it LMAO... at level 36 your basically a Dragon, Dark, Fighting slayer

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The day i learned typhlosion can learn thunder punch. It was all over . My experience in pokemon gold was solid with that starter. Anyone with feraligatr felt confidence during link battles or when you ran into your rival , but that thunder punch humbled them quickly and any grass pokemon would easily burn🔥. Typhlosion should definetly be on this list.

My first reaction: Cinderace, Blaziken, Greninja, Rillaboom, Swampert… then realized this isn’t a competitve singles channel lol

Great video! Agreed with everything

Forgot to mention infernape's insane coverage (mach punch right before the rock gym and grass knot after the second, +access to acrobatics, and i think earthquake)

great video man!! are you canadian by any chance??

mega swampert: the absolute machine of destroying any kind of enemy in gen 6

"The Pokemon everyone thinks of when you say fire/fighting." No. That would go to the OG fire/fighting starter Blaziken. Infernape was a nice sequel, though.

Flygon HG has nuzlocke video with "kanto starters only" in FireRed. And that is: Bulbassaur is amazing during 30% of the game, Blastoise is a beast in the rest.

I just love that Swampert is Water/Ground

I agree. Swampert is the penultimate starter. By a long shot. Even in other games he would still wreck the competition.

Swampert in almost any situation : im god Swampert when he touches a leaf : im dead

For gen 1 I prefer the Bulbasaur Line for being over powered due to Sleep/Poison Powder/Leech Seed/Mega Drain.

First Top i saw that include Blastoise. I'm so happy

Me as a kid not knowing about typings (except swampert is weak to grass) wondering why I don't get any "it's super effective" message against him. Then once I learned it, I'm not surprised why and since then I always get mudkip as my water Mon whenever available.

Typhlosion in gen 2 is pretty broken in a playthrough. Just typhlosion with fire punch, and thunderpunch can carry you through so much. It also gets earthquake, and dynamic punch. If you pick cyndaquil it makes the already pretty easy game easier. I still pick chikorita though even though most say its one of, or the worst starter. I disagree heavily though. I have my own take on chikorita.

Imagine Swampert with the Sap Sipper ability.

You can actually get wood hammer on torterra pretty easily if you know where a serect heart scale is

Cinderace is number 1 if it has the hidden ability Libero it can give him the best moves of multiple types by changing his type to his moves type any move that has ball in the name he can learn like electro ball, Shadow ball, energy ball, and pyro ball it is OP because it also has moves like scorching sands for ground type, sucker punch for dark u-turn for bug, acrobatics for flying, Gunk shot for poison, iron head for steel, and zen headbut for psychic it can literally be 11 types.

I think Blaziken got outplayed for gen 3 Blaziken has an amazing move set and can rip through the elite 4 by itself at lvl 74. The fact that Sky Uppercut that it learns literally 1 shots a lot of the other moms in the game. You don’t really have to worry about it’s type disadvantages as Blaziken has insane speed and can get off its moves before getting hit by its weaknesses. Just something to mention as I breezed through all three games with Blaziken leading the pack.

Smith: The Pokémon everyone thinks of when you say fire/fighting... Me: Oh Blaziken, my favourite! Smith: Infernape. Me: Oh yeah, that's also fire/fighting 😅

Gen 4 starters are the best! Glad to know you agreed.

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Blastoise will always be #1 for me, his potential moveset makes it good enough to be almost a one man army

1. I'm very happy none of the black and white starters were even considered for top mentions. They're all abysmal, with only Samurott having some lasting usefulness, but getting clearly overshadowed by a captured Gyarados or Starmie midgame, depending on BW1/BW2. Emboar is clowned on by Sheer Force Darmanitan, and you can capture Darumaka on Route 4. Likewise Serperior gets clowned on Leavanny's better typing and movepool availability, and again you catch Sewaddle pretty early into the game. I understand Contrary Serperior is amazing for competitive, but your starter Snivy will never have Contrary, so a Grass type that can Leaf Blade, X-Scissor, Shadow Claw, Poison Jab is very nice by comparison to a Grass starter limited to normal and grass type attacks for most of the game. 2. Swampert is an excellent #1 pick. There are no complaints here. Ice/Ground/Water coverage with a Normal or Fighting type (ex: Brick Break) attack for the last slot is very useful. Nothing really outdoes Swampert at what it does when it's available. Gyarados is a strong water pokemon in every game it appears in, but given that it doesn't have the same easy access to ground-type moves (and lacking Ground STAB), and it doesn't hit as hard with Water or Ice type moves due to lower SpA, Swampert still just carries hard throughout the game with its wide movepool. 3. I'd disagree that Blastoise is even that good to be considered top 5. Blastoise is middling in all stats, and its 85 special is outdone by a freshly caught Tentacool right after you get the old rod in Dewford Town, which has 100 special. Yes. Tentacool (before it evolves to Tentacruel) outdamages Blastoise, assuming both are at the same level. Not to mention Tentacruel evolves at Level 30, which is sooner than Blastoise. It's also got access to Swords Dance + Double Edge, in addition to Wrap, and the obligatory Blizzard + Surf. Yes, Blastoise can use Dig early, and all that, but if we're just looking for a middle-of-the-road Pokemon that clears RB easily and solo, Nidoking does it better and can be in your party as soon as you get to Mt Moon and get your first Moon Stone. It also learns Surf, though it doesn't get the STAB and it's off a lower 75 special stat. Yes. These non-starter alternatives I list aren't starters and don't deserve to be in a top 5 overpowered starter list, but I find it hard to argue that starters can be "overpowered" if they get outdone by easily caught non-starters. It puts into question "Why use this starter if I can just catch and use the clearly better instead, less than an hour or two into the game?"

I play water pokemon starters just cause I happen to like water pokemon. Not my fault they were made OP. Also, Swampert will always hold a special place in my heart as it was the first starter on my very first pokemon game - Ruby

Him: The pokemon everyone thinks of when you sat fire fighting. Me: Blaziken?

Swampert will always be my favorite Gen 3 starter!! Didn't know he was so OP!!!

Never pick based on the first gym, the latter gyms are vastly harder while the first are easy. Torchic may be weak against the rock gym, but Combusken one shots them all. Treeko is good here, but suck for Wallace the ice leader, the psychic gym, the flying gym, the fire gym, Team Magma, the ice Elite four member and most of Steven's Pokémon. Mudkip is a good second, but Blaziken slays all of them bar the psychic gym which is the only real obstacle unless you grind a bit more.

Yes I love Mudkip and his evolution line :3 !!!

I love swampert or even emporeon, emporeon, because of it being steel/water pokemon, also swampert, being water/ground both having sooo leess weakness.

I always fall in love with water type pokemon 😄

My favourite stater Pokémon is Blaziken. But, even I have to admit Swampert is insane

Dope list but what’s the songs used in the video?

I really loved this video for the fact that it took this guy 10 seconds to get into his list. Not like most where lists start at min 4:12 after they texted you full with sponsors, likes etc. This is actually the first like Im giving in years. (Not that it means anything)

Nice soundtrack R4❤

Rillaboom is so underrated as a starter. I feel like no one else noticed the level 30 palpitoeds running around the wild area well before the first gym that Grookey can take out at level 10. Cinderace may be busted with stats and pyro ball but Rillaboom makes grinding so unintentionally easy. My team in shield had Rillaboom, Gyarados, and Arcanine before I even reached the first gym just by eating a couple palpitoeds and finding a fire stone.

I'm surprised Typhlosion is not on the list. But maybe type wise it doesn't beat as much as I remember. But it felt super OP in my playthrough of gen2 with it.

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Your starter literally becomes a god. Especially if it’s water type. Water type is the one of the strongest elements in Pokémon. You wreck sooo much gym leaders and gangs. Mudkip was my favorite and helped me beat the game.

Was watching this video after it got recommended to me and I was thinking "man, his voice and delivery is so familiar." Get to the end and look at the name of the channel for future reference and found out exactly where I knew it from. OG Zombies fans represent. Happy to see you making content man, no matter what the subject is

Kinda suprising to see primarina on the top 5 overpowered starter even though barely any people use it

Sceptile: Took down any myths yet?

Another fun fact about Infernape being a fan fav. It's also the best starter being the only good Fire type early game through gen 4 until you run into Ponyta which itself is underwhelming.