Outlander xmr with rad relocate looks way better than a renegade with a rad relocate. The longer wheel base is an advantage on hill climbs and trails which I do a lot more of than mudding. I wanna get wet, not straight mud. So imo outlander xmr with the 2up seat is a better machine for me.

Very true video, after 2 renegades I switched to a outlander xtp max 1000 for how I ride now... won't ever forget the fun I had on the renegades though

I think a lot of new riders buy these mud machines not relising the thousands and thousands of dollars in maintenance they require, mud is the hardest thing on an atv

Great video Don! I personally respect your facts on the renegade. My personal preference is the outlander because of one situation where my friend accidentally caught her leg on the wheels of her renegade and got hurt pretty badly. But, it’s rider error to have that happen. But, honestly I do want a renegade next once I move to a house where I have more storage area. Still going to keep my outlander.

Such an awesome video, Don!! I couldn't agree more with you as long as you're into mudding! Your video sparked some ideas in my little brain and I think you and I could partner up and do a collaboration video on differences in riding terrain and riding styles to create a broader comparison and give more people more information to help people make a choice between Renegade and Outlander. I'm back in Alaska now after a much needed long vacation and am installing new goodies on the new machine today.

I completely agree with this video. My 2021 Renegade 570 xmr went through a few mudholes no problem that a 2020 Outlander 1000 xmr got stuck in. Made me feel even better about going with the Renegade than the Outlander👍🏽

Well said and right on the money

Great arguments! I own a 570 Outty max pro+ and I'm happy with it but I can see the benefits of a Renny.

Nice machine , will have a winch install on can am maverick soon .

Good info here, both major manufacturers need to do something with their prices on new machines. 20k for new ride seems expensive

Great video, I agree the renegade in stock form looks awesome but once you add the rad relocate kit it looks awful in my opinion. Can Am did a great job with how the Outlander XMR looks. Honestly the Outlander should be the higher priced machine as it must cost more to make but they know people will buy the Renegade just for its looks.

Well. Great video. I happen to have both quads. A 2019 outlander xmr 1000 and the 2021 Renagade xmr1000 and you are correct in your review. High centre is the drawback of the outlander and total overall fun is the other big advantage with the renegade Both are beasts but I prefer the renegade

Debating on this myself currently. Difference with me is I'll be using it around my property also , I don't take people for rides but in and outta woods going to get logs planting trees but also go out with buddy's. I feel outlander would be the better option. I been looking for an 850 outlander here but it's insane to find one but the 1000s I can almost trip over . Idk what to do.

Facts Of Life. Great show. Renegade is also lighter, I believe. Not by much though.

When riding a passenger is a must on occasion, you only get one option. Just have to put on bigger tires and do the modifications to make a max chassis work

Awesome video bud

wish quads were more reasonably priced around the 10-12k range for ones that are 20

Yeah buddy!!! The renegade is a straight beast!! I love my renegade and wouldn't trade it for anything else.... all anybody has to do is watch a few of your mudding videos and they will understand lol

I’m lookin at the 850xmr. Seems if I’m ok not getting the 1000 then the also powerful 850 would be fine and all I need is to cut and clutch for bigger tires and run better snorkels(or don’t go as deep).

Youre right but in my Locations and in my Country you dont Need bigger weels or very high snorkels. In my Country there are not many Places to mud ride but When there are places you dont need a Renegade. But very Good Video!!🎉

I will say this i love my outlander 21 1000xmr. That beast will go thru anything. I remember she got stuck once but i did it on purpose to see the out come i was upset. I had no one to ride with just my .45. No problem took my winch cables came with my beast throw around that tree an pull here out. Go with the outlander

I have both I’m chillin

I’ve owned a 21 renegade xxc and went to a 23 outlander xxc. Outlander turns sharper and fender coverage. Really similar setups otherwise.

Every smaller bike gets stuck in the same holes, the longer frame means your wheels aren’t in the same holes at the same time… and I like the larger fenders where mud is concerned.

i mean the video is great but if you are looking on the price you gotta take the g1 outander 800 an absolute beast first thing first: short wheelbase (same as renegade) second: price in germany you can get one for like 5k and so in america even cheaper third: the chassis are removed in like 5 minutes because of the old system (what i really do like) fourthyou dont need a new footrack for bigger wheels just cut some place out (because of the price) but there are bad points too ofc like the point that you gotta need some mechanic prior knowledge because you need to build the snorkel system on your own and another bad point is that the engine got the old control unit and ofc its only a 800but i got one on my own and i love it. but its your own decision

Looking to get a can am soon. I’d like to see what you prefer if the outlander would be better for 2 people as for my wife loves riding but not driving lol. Or any other atv that you would prefer for 2 people?

I picked up my 22 outty xmr 1000. I like the renegades but the design of the outty just looks and functions better. Stock for stock u will have a lot more fun with the outty. Mainly due to the rad restrictions

I like both but if I had to choose one it would be the Outlander. I would use it for sport, utility and get some accessories for carrying hunting gear.

I thought that both the renegade xmr and the outlander xmr both came with 30 inch tires. Not 28's. Either way. Good video

until you're racing other quads for best time, running crushed assassinators with nitrous. then the outlander max chassis is better due to not wanting to lift up in the front end compared to the Renegade wanting to wheely...

Renegade gets pretty hot. Those 1000s are mostly only good for open roads

Can we have a video of comparison between renegade xxc and outlander one seat xxc ?

Everything you said convinced me, ...I buying an outlander max 850xt

I wanted the renegade but the big drawback I had was the extra 3k for an engine that's no faster than an 850. Just couldn't justify it. Sucks you really can't go mudding without a rad relocate too. So I went with the 850xmr.....with that said tho my next will definitely be a renegade 1000.

I’m not sure which one to go with cause I do a lot of trail riding but got a lot of mud to any opinions

it is not a fair comparation log frame vs short frame for mud, you should do renegade xmr vs outlander xxc, to be both short frames and same engines.

I just wish they'd have both had an actual real manual transmission. You can get a Honda with a DCT or manual transmission. But sadly most companies have a rubber band transmission that breaks all the time. I wish these companies would go to manual shift

When people talk about the fendersize on the Rene I just say u spent money to have fun why won’t u get muddy if ur going mudding that’s like saying I bought a hellcat but I don’t like the speed

I just am here waiting for a short wheel base 1000 outlander xmr

Nice vid, stir-fry man. You’re getting good at these.

Good info, but last year you buy a 570 renegade xmr and this year is no longer available. I dont now why, the only engine you can get is the 650 and 1000.

Take outlander 1000xxc short frame and do that xmr. Can am have all parts to do snorkeling and radiator relocation. My choice is outlander 1000 short frame.😀

Renegade seems like a more capable mud machine but I like the look of the outlander 1000x better

1) My outlande does just as good if not better than my buddies renegade in the mud 2) The renegades intake is not really all that much higher than the outlanders. The cvt intake is, but not the airbox intake. Depending on which snorkel kit you go with decides if the snorkels are in your way. You act like the rhino horn is invisible 3) Better accessories? Aluminum skid plates yes. But everything else my outlander came with. Who needs a rack? Anybody who wants to strap a cooler down. Oh you can just buy it for the renegade but the BRP is too out of hand. Same over the radiator relocate. You can get a can am approved snorkel extention as well. I like the cluster on my outty. Not a fan of the little square you get. And the passenger thing. You don't need the rear seat to have a passenger. The outlander "driver" seat is plenty big enough for a passenger with the storage box in place of the seat. 4) Maintenance is not that hard on the outlander. Sure its easier on the renegade, but don't be lazy. 5)You can fit bigger tires, but i can do floorboards cheaper than you can rad relocate to keep from overheating every time you go out. 6) They both look good. Renegade looks more sporty but calling the outlander ugly woulr be an outright lie Fun fact. My 18 outty xmr outran my buddies renegade until he put clutches in his. Mine still has stock clutches. This video is misinformational. Somebody is mad they paid more for less. Anybody reading my comment. If you don't know which machine to go with, think about the type of riding you'll be doing. Do you have a passenger? Do you climb hills a lot? They both have their perks. Not like this guy makes it out to be

So ya.....I ride a XMR 1000 Outlander and I ride with 4 other renegades and can say I don't get hung up any more than they do. I also have an easier time getting out of holes with the longer chassis. Also you say the renegade has the best snorkel and the Outlander doesn't come with one then you turn around and say you can order the rad relocate for the renegade like the outlander....well you can also order that snorkel kit for the Outlander so that comparison goes out the window. #3 renegade comes with all the accessories....why do you think it's $2000 more they're not free lol. I put the full aluminum skid plates, hand guards and bought the 2up seat and the Yoshi exhaust and it put the price just over the price of the renegade and I now have a two up machine if needed. Oh and apparently renegade guys do need a rack because 3 out of the 4 renegades I ride with ordered an aftermarket mount and put the Outlander rack on the back. And your tire upgrades well maybe-ish I can fit 32" assassintors on mine and just have to trim a little of the plastic. The only thing I agree on is the ease of maintenance on the Renegade but I change my fluids twice a year so it's no biggie as long as I have a cold beer next to me. In the end it all comes down to personal preference between these two machines. Title should be "Top 5 Reasons Why I WANT A Can Am Renegade 1000 XMR (vs Outlander 1000 XMR).

I like the renegade but the fenders and the push bar I rather have a outlander

heh; your not really suggesting that the can am is easy to work on? Maybe the new models are better; i've had a 2014 1000 rennie since new; its fairly nightmarish (was just swearing at the stupid secondary clutch install procedure about 2 hours ago).

My 21 outlander 1000 xmr all day I was pushing tires on my parents property. When I got mine I wanted everything snow plow bar light big back box on back with light. I don't want want to carry mine in 4 in of. Water my outlander 1000 xmr all day baby

#6 !!!!!!!!!

I drove my buddy’s 850 xtp renegade and boy what a terrible ride. You’re sitting on all 4 shocks and feel every bump. I only drove it for 20 minutes and had to get back on my bike (850 xmr outlander) strictly hardcore mud driving I agree renegade but other than that it’s a hard no for me

Hey did you get of the sled?

I can say this i was grease my front i end on my outty. I was pist at being not able . To grease. That fittings. I dont agree with u. The that 1000 xmr is a sexy machine. I like renys but the outlander better

I'm in nova scotia cape breton island I ordered a 2022 renegade xmr 1000 all in taxs out the door $24,850 lol cant put a price on happiness but watch with my luck they come out with a outlander short frame 1000 like my xmr 560 outlander that would be insane

I bet I can take my stock 2021 outlander 1000 xmr anywhere you can take the renegade

But the only problem for me is that you can't put a back seat on a Renagade

Both great four wheelers but with the renegade you will get more mud on you than an outlander

All 5 is wrong I have outlander and tried renegade, never will switch Oil change in 10 min, and you don’t have remove anything to change the belt, only belt box

Is a Renegade too small for a Rider @ 6'6" Height? :/

Man i have a renegade xmr 1000 i cant beat my nephews outlander smh

The the renegade doesn’t have a rad relocate and it looks absolutely horrible with one put on. That’s the biggest problem.

More easier

One more thing is that the renegade is a lighter and you can skim better

There is allot of miss leading info in this video 😂😂

The floorboard part is definitely not true.

Buddy, there the same thing one just has different plastic why pay $20,000 for plastic when I can get a 850 with so much more stuff like a rack, rad relocate and bigger screen for cheaper renegade is a rip of so don’t even say that a renegade will get you farther.

all of the reasons you have mentioned in this video are unvalid asf if you know your quads, i can out do everything mentioned in this vid💀

They're nice but overpriced IMHO

Renegades are just more betterer!

There is so much false information in this video

Renegade is so ugly though 😅

LMAO this video is so biased its laughable!!!! LOL Outlander is far better!!

Bias to the max. Complained about the seat costing 800.. then tried justifying new tires, rack, and rad relocate! I love my 21 outlander xmr 1000r. Yes I've been stuck mostly because I was going in 2 wheel and got into trouble real quick. I went back to every spot I've been stuck and blasted it in 4 no problems. Pulled my fair share of every flavor quad and side-by-side out of the mud.

Longer chassis gets hung up? 😂😂😂😂

But there’s about 100 reasons to get a Polaris