My math textbooks be more filled with handz than a blackbook xD

Holy shit that’s all I do in math class you got to close to home

True

Lmaoo that's why I failed math

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Lol it's not a rant until I start flailing my arms

spot on, gotta keep it simple, basics first

I started doing this too, I have seperate notebooks where I practice a single style all the way through alphabetically.

It's less about tricking out individual letters and more about the flow of the whole hit up imo. None of my individual letters are that dope on their own but my tags are fire lol.

Everybody got their own style , there is no style that is the same.

what do i do if one just came naturally? like i was learning about basics and then i was picking out things i had liked and thought "what if i did this instead?" and then did that and fell in LOVE with it. should i practice the fundamental lettering or the lettering im actually gonna be doing? (I know im late, sorry)

thanks for the support all of the time man i appreciate it

can i see please my insta is @eton.one my old insta is @deco.amr

Bet it's great 🔥

Revived gay

lol no, thats what i am here for, its what i make my vids geared to and its what i strive to be, the best most informative credible source of graffiti info so you guys can have a mentor no matter where you live. this way misinformation isnt a problem for the ones subscribed :D

@@swiglow777 lol k

Revived lol me too

Grim is the Gandalf of graffiti.

fools

If you hang out with dogs, you get fleas. Simple. 🤷‍♂️

i know this is probably a really toy question but if i dont ask i wont learn so imma ask anyway arent you supposed to do grafitti at chill spots? is the issue that they covered a lot of other stuff for no reason? this is genuine

for hands, no doubt!

Why are connections bad?

It all depends on their level. If they are dedicated to put in that much work to master multiple styles, all power to them. From my experience, I would say to anyone starting or intermediate. master your style of lettering first then master characters. Then explore new lettering. If you’re a bomber, focus on tags first, then throw ups then piece throw ups. Challenge & Explore yourself, I had no idea I was good at art till I started branching off from wild style pieces.

It took me almost an entire year just to get my oner correct, but now that i can write one liners good they look dope af

Not an attack on you personally, since youve figured it out, but tbh the fact that anyone even feels the need to explain this specific point makes me want to lower my face into a blender. Cause imagine how many people - pretty much every day - come online like "plz give me crits how 2 improve style?" - they are happy to bombard you with 3hrs of questions but they wont listen to the answers for them, and the whole time theyre missing all the crucial, fundamental stuff like this. And its because they think they are better than the basics! Its just so naive. Why does _no one_ ever stop, take a step back and think "maybe theres more to this that im not seeing"? Is it to do with how they teach you things in school these days? Im genuinely curious about where that attitude comes from, and why its so overwhelmingly prevalent in young people who show an interest in graffiti and letters. Its annoying cause it shows a complete lack of humility, something that's always been important if you didnt wanna go getting into beef all over the place. The internet has created a landscape where you can apparently run your mouth all day and nothing really ever comes of it. Long story short: Absolute base level toys wanting advice on extensions and "style" etc is like a 3 year old asking to do your taxes for the financial year. Even if you gave them the info and tools they need, they wouldn't know the first thing about how to use it and when you checked up on them in an hour, all your valuable stuff will be covered in wet patches of shit and the baby has produced nothing of value.

@@swine13 Hahahaha your absolutely right! The whole idea behind my comment was to hopefully get these toys to stop missing the obvious, and extremely crucial, elements that keep their hands looking like garbage. Everyone with a weak hand has this specific problem with their tags, but they just don't see it.

homie under a year isnt long no need to say even for me

@@sober4735 wym? i took a can out 3 times and ive been writing for 7 MONTHS. Am i not a king yet? It looked so easy in the brochure...

i would assume balanced between the e and the z there is an empty space, but im not super expierenced

@Yeetus cute but no. A circle has an end and a beginning. Where as a curve can pass itself and carry on.

Learning infinite spiral?

Jack Rinderer well for tagging start with a sharpie believe me you just gotta flow into it and then buy a hard 2 buff

yup 100% true man, all great things to point out

could we still have just a simple underline and maybe a halo?

Also when people don’t pay enough attention to negative space and how important it is!

first off. toy second. a pink dot is a cap you but on spray paint and it has a medium fat line depends on your can control . hes saying hes seen kids trying to use a fat cap on a tiny sign and that is some toy shit

@@sober4735 ok thanks for taking the time to inform me. 🤙

@@sober4735 that's y u use stickers mostly for stop signs

Shane Welker indeed

pretty solid rule for sure!

Nahhhh

from my years of experience teaching i have learned that if this is a question you are asking then you shouldnt have any style in any of the tags you do as you likely need to learn the basics. In short, yes you can swap styles but keep it simple and do basic print font to learn the basics otherwise all of that style will fail 100% of the time

Until you get good enough to go out and not play yourself in public, try keeping all of your letters pretty simple and only adding style to one of your letters, the 1st or the last. Then go from there. This is a good way to practice. It helped me a lot when I was just starting. I'm from philly, here it's all about your hand. In philly the most respected writers have at least 4 basic hands: tall hand, wicket, (as seen in this video by karma) stiff hand, and lower case. Practice and Don't play yourself.

Used to be pretty much reserved for the fallen, wasnt it?

I thought so, but a ton of living people use halos, so I’m confused now.

lol this comment made me smile dude thankyou. im really happy to see some people out there get it and understand :D . really put a smile on my face dude

why hello there

And IMO thats completely fine. Youre right - its not always as simple as it sounds to walk up to a wall and get it right, and no one can really hate on people who are smart enough to get away except the cops. There's even IG pages devoted to paying respects to flicks of unfinished panels. Just dont be the stooge who draws dicks and tags like "c**t-r*aper" on the front doors of some community church or a day care centre or some shit, you know?

you can just plop a link here, at least that way im more likely to see it.

@@Theartistblock sure! here's a link to my ig instagram.com/1312.seuzerav/

keep it simple, basic print font, 0 style nothing added to it gotta learn those basics. take your time and dont rush learning this, it takes a long time

I’d be willing to do it. That is, if you still want to after a year.

ok, can you explain that though, like can i do a wild style piece and call it a tag, care to answer that? if not then why cant i do that? If there are no rules then i should be able to do that. if there are truly no rules then if i write grim then can spell it ZRIMP and say that it say's Grim? I should be able to if there are no rules, why cant i do that? If there are no rules then why are some graffiti artists better than others? Im not asking these to belittle or anything, just working towords a point in this discussion.

@@Theartistblock graffiti is a free exspression . Do you . who are you to tell people how to write?

@@tommitwelvetreez don't shoot the messenger, I didn't make these rules. Art is expression , not just graffiti ya know and if art has rules then so does graffiti. You willing to tell me leonardo da vinci was wrong? You trying to say saber is good for no reason and other people aren't as good because no reason? What you're saying means when people practice then they're not really practicing anything so practice is a waste of time because if there are no rules then there is nothing to practice. Do you really believe that? Once again not trying to stir you up but if you believe that then back it with evidence, let's have a good discussion, you haven't answered my first questions with facts and I'd like to see you answer these with facts. I really don't think you can.

@@Theartistblock yeah if you only knew what you were talking about but you dont. There are no rules in graffiti none! Your a toy!

lol so you're not willing to back any of your claims with evidence and you cant seem to answer any of my questions yet i can back literally all of mine with facts, evidence and logic so tell me, who doesn't know what they're talking about. I have countless videos of me talking about these things and proving it time and time again so it looks like i know what im talking about. once you're ready to have a logical discussion instead of name calling like a child then you can come back here and talk to me. Till then go through my playlist " how to do graffiti or toy's guide for graffiti" and learn something. Once you're caught up you might know just a little, enough to see how you're wrong.

Seems a bit long

@@jacksonhillhill3805 your bit late... Lol ive been writing Egosos/Egos for 2-3 now

nib width is what the fundamental is referred to. Nib width just refers to the width of any writing utensil, no matter what it is, its just a means of measuring letters based on the writing tool.

The Artist Block u sound like more of a street artist than a real graffiti writer lol just my opinion just like thinking caps and nibs are the same is yours

@@helthlopez8201 They clearly arent the same, its just the terminology. none of this is opinion based, its a ter, that is used for any and all writing tool. Learn more, study, inform yourself.

The Artist Block well thank u for admitting you were wrong even if it took u a week lol , I’m well informed on the subject or Graff I am not a traditional artist so there’s no need for me to inform myself on that info like yourself , stick to art and art subjects my guy Graff is from and for the streets it’s not something u need to take read about or be taught to inform yourself it’s a go out and hit the streets learn the real way kind of thing like I said you sound like more of an artist not a real graffiti writer who is or was in the streets like myself

@@helthlopez8201 what, lol i didnt admit anything, its a simple term and for some reason you're being oddly stubborn about trying to be correct about something you clearly dont know. ill let you continue to think you're right and move on with my life. you not progressing isnt my problem, i tried to help but you dont want to hear it.

I dont mind it at all, imo he has a normal voice... anyway you can always mute it and turn on closed captions if its really that bad for you.

i dont make these rules, no one is "putting these rules" on anything, fundamentals arent created, they're discovered

The Artist Block ain’t no rules chill out fool

@@helthlopez8201 ok if you're willing I'd like to have a legit discussion about this like a friendly debate just you can know I'm not trying to belittle and you can express your points freely. If You feel graffiti has no rules then can you explain that to me? If I do apexe's tag but with snoopy inconsistent lines, I misspell the name, letters all over the place with inconsistent sizes and I even make the R look more like a K or B is that ok, does that still say apex and is mine better than his or is he better? Also does graffiti not use line, shape, form, value, space, color, texture, all the elements of art ( the laws of art)

The Artist Block why would u be writing someone else’s name now that’s against the rules lol

@@helthlopez8201 #1 its an example, #2 tributes. Should I wait for an example or should I expect more beating around the bush to dodge the questions?

Facts an ugly tag is way better then no tag everyone has to start somewhere

What? No. 1000x no. If youre talking about actual illegal graff - an ugly tag is NOT better than no tag. Dont be so self-important to think people want to see your trashy scribbles on every surface - its toy tags like that that gives graff the worst of its bad reputation, and is also the hardest shit to defend when people ask why anyone would do graffiti. You can defend murals, pieces, throws and even most good tags on the fact they have a real artistic merit. But this "fuck it - do whatever, wherever" kind of mentality is literally just destruction of property, and feel free to try to argue against society that there is some greater value in the 12ft outline of a penis you drew on some small business owner's fence... see how you get on. You can post all about how well that goes right here, when youre done. 👍 To add to that, destruction of property on its own is literally only defensible if you live in an area of significant social oppression (think black people in the ghetto over the last 50yrs) and when its a clear and obvious way of fighting against the established order for your own rights. 98% of people getting into it these days are not living in that kind of place, they're privileged rich kids from coastal US and Canada who frankly have everything they could want, so for them to destroy stuff is just selfish and ruins the image of all the people that had real reasons for doing this shit. TLDR: there are reasons you dont put crap on walls. Get good before you get up or expect to get crossed and possibly dropped, depending where you live.