TOP 50 | Biggest Rises | Betting Odds vs. Results | Eurovision 2011 - 2021 Grand Finals

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PlatinSam

PlatinSam

3 жыл бұрын

Top 50 of rises / improvements in betting odds compared to the official results in Eurovision Grand Finals 2011-2021. Odds were taken during the live shows before the voting.
IMPORTANT: The betting odds placings are based on the outright market. If a country is placed 10th it doesn't mean the exact predicted place is 10th but otherwise it's not possible to create a video like this. Odds of Top 10 / 15 could be slightly different but not far away from the outright market.

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@PlatinSam
@PlatinSam 3 жыл бұрын
The betting odds placings are based on the outright market. If a country is placed 10th it doesn't mean the exact predicted place is 10th but otherwise it's not possible to create a video like this. Odds of Top 10 / 15 could be slightly different but not far away from the outright market. Odds were taken during the live shows before the voting.
@max-5876
@max-5876 2 жыл бұрын
But the difference between 26 and 13 is zero. Both >1%. So wouldn’t it be better to do a % ranking difference? So the 2% that got third gets the 12% that the third got - 2% is 10 points.
@alexstefan2740
@alexstefan2740 2 жыл бұрын
A Balkan nation with a song in the native language Bookies: Let's put that last
@celular-contaprincipaligor9368
@celular-contaprincipaligor9368 2 жыл бұрын
You're right. The nunber of Balkan Countries sending good music, but been putting in the last place it's simply UNBELIVEBLE!
@mrmountainman7128
@mrmountainman7128 3 жыл бұрын
Moldova consistantly outperforming expectations
@Aliren380
@Aliren380 3 жыл бұрын
Europe! Ow!
@peeryoutube
@peeryoutube 3 жыл бұрын
It’s called overrated
@timschmieder6312
@timschmieder6312 3 жыл бұрын
And Albania as well i think
@sylvain_3
@sylvain_3 3 жыл бұрын
@Alex Erhan It's called Kirkorov and diaspora.
@peeryoutube
@peeryoutube 3 жыл бұрын
@Alex Erhan This years song ended way too high. In my opinion it didn’t even deserve to qualify. The only song I liked from Moldova was from 2017 and 2018. Oh yeah and that has nothing to do with the country itself, just saying
@mickystam521
@mickystam521 2 жыл бұрын
So how many times were you underestimated? Albania and Moldova: Yes
@x_n_x_gal9161
@x_n_x_gal9161 11 ай бұрын
Two best countries in ESC by far
@WethleyPL
@WethleyPL 3 жыл бұрын
So Lithuania is just waiting for Donny Montell being 11 in odds
@vladd896
@vladd896 3 жыл бұрын
@Rebecca Woolf not exactly, I think he meant Donny Montel ending exactly 10 places above expectations twice(!), so based on that if they send him 3rd time and he will be 11th on odds he will actually end up 11-10= in the first place winning the contest
@fesclix4147
@fesclix4147 3 жыл бұрын
Kind of satisfying to see that the odds have always been a mess and not just these days
@wwhy6569
@wwhy6569 Жыл бұрын
The odds are not a mess. They are correct in the long run.
@kepapathanas
@kepapathanas 3 жыл бұрын
The odds had Greece 2011 at 23rd? OMG that's so awkward if you think they actually won the semi, and got 3rd place in the final televoting..
@esccyprus
@esccyprus 3 жыл бұрын
Can we all agree that PlatinSam is the best esc youtuberl? Literally he did an amazing work👏
@PlatinSam
@PlatinSam 3 жыл бұрын
Wow thanks my friend :)
@ggoddf5889
@ggoddf5889 3 жыл бұрын
yess
@Bdbdhsdbshdbhce
@Bdbdhsdbshdbhce 3 жыл бұрын
Fr hes great
@doomchromee8648
@doomchromee8648 Жыл бұрын
He is great, but i think schlager lucas beats him
@giovanniscg8540
@giovanniscg8540 3 жыл бұрын
I still can't believe that the UK in 2018 was ranked higher than Italy, Austria and Moldova according to the odds
@pmfrank2034
@pmfrank2034 3 жыл бұрын
It happened just because of the ,,invasion" during her performance. She was I believe 24th before the show
@Tarkris
@Tarkris 3 жыл бұрын
It happened during the show , following the stage invasion people thought she would get sympathy votes but she didn't
@tmdgcmct9756
@tmdgcmct9756 3 жыл бұрын
@@Tarkris i feel like she did. she would’ve been last if she didn’t. but she didn’t get enough to get her past 24th.
@Tarkris
@Tarkris 3 жыл бұрын
@@tmdgcmct9756 Yeah , I could agree to that. But she didn't really get much Televote points.
@giovanniscg8540
@giovanniscg8540 2 жыл бұрын
@@pmfrank2034 but also Spain 2010 got an invasion, but the odds kept stable around 16th if I'm not wrong
@MBrix-up2wi
@MBrix-up2wi 2 жыл бұрын
Man, our guy Cesár really said "F**k your odds and give me my 12 points." What a king.❤️👍🇦🇹
@ggoddf5889
@ggoddf5889 3 жыл бұрын
what about songs that were high in odds but didnt even qualify. like belgium and greece 2018
@HimeFunny
@HimeFunny 2 жыл бұрын
Finland 2015 was placed 5th and didnt qualify
@angelosvlahos
@angelosvlahos 2 жыл бұрын
2:41 the whistle note in Crno i Belo is actually iconic
@michellesmirnova4471
@michellesmirnova4471 3 жыл бұрын
I do believe that it’s more accurate to talk about flops than rises, since odds are based on who people predict will win. And I understand why most people didn’t predict that these would win, mostly because a lot of these were “safe” and “basic”, although good. I’m aware you made a video about flops and what you mentioned in the pinned comment, this isn’t against the video or anything, I just wanted to give that piece of mind!
@PlatinSam
@PlatinSam 3 жыл бұрын
Indeed, in this ranking it's even more difficult. Albania and Serbia are good examples. In some cases placed 26th to win but in a betting market who's finishing last they won't be the favourite because diaspora votes save them no matter what song it is.
@Mikowmer
@Mikowmer 2 жыл бұрын
@@PlatinSam So there isn't a betting market for who will get last?
@PlatinSam
@PlatinSam 2 жыл бұрын
Of course there is, but how to show this in one video if there are many other markets Top 5 / 10 / 15 / Last...
@mikahamari5994
@mikahamari5994 2 жыл бұрын
You are correct, only the winners of each year are relevant in this comparison, because they are winning odds. The biggest riser is the winner whose betting position was the worst. But thanks for the creator of this video, this is also interesting point of view. :)
@KyrieFortune
@KyrieFortune 11 ай бұрын
people have asked for this video tho
@neadod2902
@neadod2902 2 жыл бұрын
I never understand why the bookies always put Albania like pretty much last🤷🏻‍♀️. They always send high quality songs and really good singers
@steveuni90
@steveuni90 2 жыл бұрын
So true!!!
@sillybeing4450
@sillybeing4450 3 жыл бұрын
4:17 Ah Michał Szpak.. he was robbed soo much, still hurts
@user-mx3xw1hb3q
@user-mx3xw1hb3q 11 күн бұрын
He robbed Margaret in the national final so that’s what he deserved
@milanmigi5427
@milanmigi5427 3 жыл бұрын
Odds really hates Montenegro and Albania... Lol
@colin4962
@colin4962 3 жыл бұрын
And Moldova 🤷‍♂️🇲🇩
@TotalbadassX
@TotalbadassX 2 жыл бұрын
And slovenia
@cabemaru1
@cabemaru1 3 жыл бұрын
In brief, moldova, albania, lithuania, italy
@przemeq9476
@przemeq9476 3 жыл бұрын
Austria in 2018 being top 3 is something that no one would have guessed
@bastosbastos5835
@bastosbastos5835 3 жыл бұрын
No one ever could have guess the jury would love it that much for no apparent reasons. First by the jury when Israel, Cyprus or Italy were right there 😭
@kiertavasirkus
@kiertavasirkus 2 жыл бұрын
@@bastosbastos5835 Italy was robbed by the jury that year
@escaustargirl
@escaustargirl 2 жыл бұрын
Donny really said “fuck the odds”
@orangebear280
@orangebear280 3 жыл бұрын
Next - biggest rises in the final comparing to the semi-final
@filipgrmsek
@filipgrmsek 3 жыл бұрын
That's why NEVER trust odds... Except for winner (last 2 editions)... Odds underrate the Balkans so hard every year😵😓
@nicodex592
@nicodex592 2 жыл бұрын
So true, Albania especially ...
@MikeKobela
@MikeKobela 3 жыл бұрын
5:30 SUUS? ALBAMOGUS?????
@mb-176
@mb-176 2 жыл бұрын
SUUSSY BAKA 😳🤪
@ronweasley6585
@ronweasley6585 3 жыл бұрын
waiting for moldova 2021
@crabrave8979
@crabrave8979 3 жыл бұрын
The fact it was predicted 12th SF and qualified at 7th
@Ok-rz8ml
@Ok-rz8ml 3 жыл бұрын
@@crabrave8979 and Israel was predicted 11th in SF and finished 5th lmao
@italialainenkissa4116
@italialainenkissa4116 2 жыл бұрын
I know this opinion is unpopular but... I did like italy 2011. Like, a lot. Sue me but it is what it is.
@batmatt6844
@batmatt6844 2 жыл бұрын
I still think that it was one of the only good entries that year.
@eivind6713
@eivind6713 3 жыл бұрын
2011 the most entertaining year ever. So many flops and so many surprises.
@taniaishere
@taniaishere 2 ай бұрын
Ah, our lovely Maya Sar with Korake ti znam. I still listen to it. Such a beautiful and strong song. 🇧🇦❤️
@nexahs1
@nexahs1 2 жыл бұрын
Bookies really be putting Kirkorov songs last when he's never finished anywhere except the left side of the board.
@orangebear280
@orangebear280 3 жыл бұрын
Bookmakers hate Donny Montell...
@freyaschenberg1225
@freyaschenberg1225 2 жыл бұрын
albania 2018 is quite possible one of my favourite eurovision acts , but man was i shocked when they actually qualified !
@dylangmail75
@dylangmail75 2 жыл бұрын
same, one of my favorite entries of all time
@okmackan2054
@okmackan2054 3 жыл бұрын
Hey mama being underrated that makes me feels sad
@gg454lune
@gg454lune 2 жыл бұрын
I'm happy "Proud" beat the odds. It was my winner in 2019.
@GergoMarosvari
@GergoMarosvari 3 жыл бұрын
It seems like that Europe "didn't count us" a few times. (Hungary)
@AlexxxDaFuq
@AlexxxDaFuq 2 жыл бұрын
Albania 4 times in this list, truly the dark horse of this competition😌
@Tv-qj2xm
@Tv-qj2xm 2 жыл бұрын
Or the most underrated country in odds
@davidmaresginer6592
@davidmaresginer6592 2 жыл бұрын
@@Tv-qj2xm is Moldova. Albania wasn't underestimated in 2015
@archigal
@archigal 2 жыл бұрын
Zala and Gasper are one of my favorite entries ever. I'm still listening to their songs, I'm so happy they participated. Joci Papai too
@escamante9785
@escamante9785 3 жыл бұрын
Imagine having 20 places difference when the max u could have in 2011 were 24 *Damn* BTW everyone complains Azerbaijan won in 2011,but is not like if they were last in odds, they were 4, which is very solid comparing that the one getting second was 22 in odds lmao
@animeandgamealex3331
@animeandgamealex3331 3 жыл бұрын
Actually 25
@escamante9785
@escamante9785 3 жыл бұрын
@@animeandgamealex3331 no 24 bc there were 25 participants, and if you got the maximum possible difference, which would be being 25 in odds and ending up first or the other way around then the difference would be 25-1=24 or 1-(-25)=24 So yeah Italy was 4 away of having the biggest possible difference :D
@animeandgamealex3331
@animeandgamealex3331 3 жыл бұрын
@@escamante9785 thanks. Now i understand
@animeandgamealex3331
@animeandgamealex3331 2 жыл бұрын
@@qoobfoodisnotgood7457 but there still 10 places difference
@joelatkin1214
@joelatkin1214 2 жыл бұрын
And they still deserved 1st place rather than 2nd
@12irissu14
@12irissu14 3 жыл бұрын
My Favorites Popular (Sweden 2011) - 6 Pionts My Lucky Day (Maldova 2018) - 6 Points Shine (Russia 2014) - 6 Pionts Love Kills (Belgium 2013) - 8 Points Running on Air (Austria 2017) - 8 Points Love Me Back (Turkey 2012) - 8 Points Don't Come Easy (Australia 2017) - 8 Points Karma (Albania 2021) - 10 Points Last Dance (Greece 2021) - 10 Points Friend of A Friend (Czech Republic 2018) - 10 Points Hey, Mamma (Maldova 2017) - 10 Points Nobody But You (Austria 2018) - 12 Points Proud (North Macedonia 2019) - 12 Points Higher Ground (Denmark 2018) - 12 Points When The Music Dies (Azerbaijan 2012) - 12 Points Mall (Albania 2018) - 12 Points Russian Woman (Russia 2021) - 12 Points Suus (Albania 2012) - 12 Points
@x_n_x_gal9161
@x_n_x_gal9161 11 ай бұрын
Jonida Maliqi was so painfully underrated it still hurts. That song had all of Albania's spirit in it, and I'm not even Albanian.
@Thunderworks
@Thunderworks 2 жыл бұрын
They really put Austria 2018 at the 20th place ? They are deaf lol
@otromambo6431
@otromambo6431 3 жыл бұрын
Don't understimate the power of ballads lol I miss Moldova's crazy performances
@mtsg3761
@mtsg3761 Жыл бұрын
Another crazy performance this year that performed above expectations 😭 I wish my country the UK could just send crazy entries sometime
@FranscescaStam
@FranscescaStam 2 жыл бұрын
Poland 2016 was my fave ever
@esciveta5507
@esciveta5507 3 жыл бұрын
love this type of video!
@DimDDG
@DimDDG 3 жыл бұрын
Moldova 🇲🇩❤️❤️
@somethung8188
@somethung8188 2 жыл бұрын
Nobody but you? 20th? Have the bookies LOST THEIR MIND?
@colin4962
@colin4962 3 жыл бұрын
Moldova is always underrated 🤷‍♂️🇲🇩...but why?
@DimDDG
@DimDDG 3 жыл бұрын
Idk but I am proud of my country 🇲🇩❤️
@colin4962
@colin4962 3 жыл бұрын
@@DimDDG Moldova is such a beautiful country, I really want to visit it after this pandemic again 🇲🇩 Greetings from Germany 🇩🇪🤝🇲🇩
@DimDDG
@DimDDG 3 жыл бұрын
@@colin4962 oh thx so much, it's rare to see people who want to visit Moldova :) I've been to Frankfurt before (I live in Belgium 🇧🇪 but I’m Moldovan 🇲🇩) but I really want to visit Germany in detail, it's a big country and there is still many things to see !! Especially when I go to Moldova in the summers by car, I go through Germany and I see beautiful cities Greetings from your Belgian neighbor and a Moldovan guy 🇧🇪🇲🇩❤️🇩🇪
@munchermuncher7663
@munchermuncher7663 3 жыл бұрын
@@colin4962 i want a win for moldova
@DimDDG
@DimDDG 3 жыл бұрын
@@munchermuncher7663 me too
@jojoelio5537
@jojoelio5537 3 жыл бұрын
Albania 2018. I love you Eugent ❤️❤️❤️
@robotwars666
@robotwars666 2 жыл бұрын
serhat 26th in odds serhat after gettin 19th na na na iam also suprised itlay was so low in the odds in 2011
@BiBi-kw3no
@BiBi-kw3no 3 жыл бұрын
Odds really hates Moldova every single year 🤦 not saying about 2021(cause it wasn't the favorite of MANY people) but seriously??? 2011,2012,2013,(2014-2016 didn't qualified), 2017, 2018, (2019 didn't qualified)??? Like really??? These odds really understimates Moldova just thinking it's a small country so it won't place high
@fabb4i2
@fabb4i2 3 жыл бұрын
Some of the things predicted look so unreal now.
@nacht98
@nacht98 3 жыл бұрын
Austria for me is the true winner of 2018. What a song and what a performer!
@fabianpardo9734
@fabianpardo9734 3 жыл бұрын
I don’t know but I love the video quality of esc 2018. By the way good job
@p.qmorik9207
@p.qmorik9207 3 жыл бұрын
Eurovision 2011 was such a mess...
@isabelsilva1367
@isabelsilva1367 2 жыл бұрын
Good songs, great lyrics and great ritms so is a really hard to predict where every song will be placed and you need to cont whit the juris
@nomiforslund4781
@nomiforslund4781 3 жыл бұрын
The guy who is in the front looks like Daniel Radcliffe😂 3:21
@lukaszs.4158
@lukaszs.4158 2 жыл бұрын
Cleo & Michał 🥰🥰🥰
@musicislife2492
@musicislife2492 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe a bad idea, but what if you make the top matched songs by the odds and in the results? Will there be 15 songs?
@ASamuel89
@ASamuel89 2 жыл бұрын
can you make a video of the biggest changes between countries results in the semi finals and the finals?
@viggohelander5131
@viggohelander5131 3 жыл бұрын
Could you please make a video of the biggest surprise qualifiers based on the odds? I think that would be interesting. Great vid btw!!
@przemeq9476
@przemeq9476 3 жыл бұрын
Serhat
@annokiplik8306
@annokiplik8306 3 жыл бұрын
I dont know if i should be worried or proud about Moldova
@munchermuncher7663
@munchermuncher7663 3 жыл бұрын
Proud
@dominikr8428
@dominikr8428 2 жыл бұрын
Another proof that 2011 was a hot mess and the winner was just a cherry on top ☠️
@simonri9634
@simonri9634 3 жыл бұрын
Can I just say that countdown was so pretty!
@michellesmirnova4471
@michellesmirnova4471 3 жыл бұрын
I believe that’s KZfaq’s basic countdown for every premiere
@bazejpiechota4129
@bazejpiechota4129 3 жыл бұрын
It's basic countdown from KZfaq lol
@Hustle127
@Hustle127 2 күн бұрын
Italy 2011 and Russia 2021 truly deserved
@ohandthefracking
@ohandthefracking 3 жыл бұрын
i really have a question as to why Greece 2011 was THAT low lmfao??
@corneliuguritanu3020
@corneliuguritanu3020 2 жыл бұрын
Moldova the underdogs,the dark horse
@jorgefuenmayor2314
@jorgefuenmayor2314 3 жыл бұрын
you can make a ranking with the contestant who placed better than their first attempt, like poli genova or natalia gordienko.
@corneliuguritanu3020
@corneliuguritanu3020 2 жыл бұрын
Nice seeng and songs from 2021
@nicodex592
@nicodex592 2 жыл бұрын
2011 again, worst placings for betting odds XD
@tmdgcmct9756
@tmdgcmct9756 3 жыл бұрын
Kirkorov songs aren’t UNDERRATED by the bookies. They know that they aren’t good but for SOME reason they always end high in the grand final itself. we all know what’s going on.
@timschellekens7967
@timschellekens7967 3 жыл бұрын
It’s so obvious that Kirkorov is “acquaintances” with juries of several countries.
@AlexandrTheGreatt
@AlexandrTheGreatt 24 күн бұрын
Now the biggest rise was Moldova, who ended up in top 7 despite being in the odds on 25.
@spingol5850
@spingol5850 2 жыл бұрын
Did someone notice that they used the same background on lithuania 2012 as the flag parade in 2021? The same style at least.
@the11382
@the11382 2 жыл бұрын
It seems there's a weak correlation between jury and televoting disagreeing and the betting odds being off.
@masmusic4669
@masmusic4669 3 жыл бұрын
Why is Albania the queen of these odds?
@sandroribeiro7644
@sandroribeiro7644 3 жыл бұрын
Because before the show odds always puts them last or near last, doesn't matter if the song is good or bad
@fabb4i2
@fabb4i2 3 жыл бұрын
So apparently it's a good thing to be placed #26, #24 or #19 in the odds lol.
@nicodex592
@nicodex592 2 жыл бұрын
26th, you can only place better or equal ^^
@screemingslay5415
@screemingslay5415 2 жыл бұрын
It took me minutes to realize that those were ranks and not points, and I got confused as to why their results were so low yet it was successful. I am too new for this.
@mangomochi9847
@mangomochi9847 2 жыл бұрын
What does "odds" mean
@nixalk1
@nixalk1 2 жыл бұрын
How popular was meant to be 10th while it was the winner of the semi final?
@melissa9905
@melissa9905 3 жыл бұрын
Bookies always underrating Albania hugely
@wwhy6569
@wwhy6569 Жыл бұрын
It does not underrating it, because if you see what happened, Albania didn't win.
@anonimous9540
@anonimous9540 3 жыл бұрын
I am glad Nataliya did so well. Her performance was pure fun, her personality is everything plus that 17second note... Totally deserved!
@gvidasvalentukonis1652
@gvidasvalentukonis1652 2 жыл бұрын
Lithuania just .... how much times we will be here more?
@achnix3167
@achnix3167 2 жыл бұрын
Anxhela was 16th in the televote... just imagine
@q.hasnainasad5877
@q.hasnainasad5877 2 жыл бұрын
Borat is from turkey?? 2012
@koguma8823
@koguma8823 3 жыл бұрын
jesus what do y'all have against albania
@manuam98
@manuam98 10 күн бұрын
How the hell was Mall 24 in the odds??
@methylithium
@methylithium 2 жыл бұрын
Donny Montell two times here 😀
@plebontheweb
@plebontheweb 23 күн бұрын
I remember austria 2014 being 200/1 before the competition to win. Big regret not betting on them then
@brianlynch8292
@brianlynch8292 17 күн бұрын
Are you for real fucking hell 😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂😂 Conchita was that SUPPOSEDLY shit. Jaysus Bookmakers obviously don’t know shit. Conchita was out of this mothertucking world ❤❤❤❤❤
@PK-xr1gb
@PK-xr1gb 2 жыл бұрын
The Top 5 is amazing! (except Austria)
@raoultlam1549
@raoultlam1549 26 күн бұрын
Conclusion: the bookmakers cannot predict 26th place and they hate Moldova a lot and Albania as well
@EAvaan2
@EAvaan2 2 жыл бұрын
Eastern Europe really showing for good here!
@DaveVampireSlayer
@DaveVampireSlayer 2 жыл бұрын
Moldova: Hold my pronostics! Albania: Bookmakers 😘 Italy: I end those men's carrers!
@balanda23
@balanda23 3 жыл бұрын
А где Лазарев??? В 2019 он был у буков 12, а стал 3
@user-dq6xw9kk4z
@user-dq6xw9kk4z 2 жыл бұрын
Тут учитывается последний результат букмекеров, а последний результат Лазарева 8 место, можете сами посмотреть.
@Lukas_vd
@Lukas_vd 3 жыл бұрын
Well Austria and the nethetlands in 2014 both not in top 10 and 1st and 2nd
@sylvain_3
@sylvain_3 3 жыл бұрын
I can rise too if Kirkorov buys a lot of the juries for me, because Moldova having 8 times 12 points in the semifinal... not even Salvador Sobral, Loreen, Mans...
@munchermuncher7663
@munchermuncher7663 3 жыл бұрын
Voters underrated it and gave it votes thinking it won't be a threat while they didn't give votes to obvious qualfiers. As a result, Moldova rose
@user-vl8kw3nr5j
@user-vl8kw3nr5j 2 жыл бұрын
What a shame to put watch my dance 23rd !
@SpeedCheetah998
@SpeedCheetah998 2 жыл бұрын
I thought moldovia was 25th
@NuuSkye01
@NuuSkye01 2 жыл бұрын
SEBI😭😭💕💕💕
@ronmedheuos
@ronmedheuos 3 жыл бұрын
the odds at 2013 are sucks omg
@xESCFR3AKx
@xESCFR3AKx 3 жыл бұрын
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@ionbalan7425
@ionbalan7425 3 жыл бұрын
Moldova was 12th in 2011
@kaW3_4
@kaW3_4 2 жыл бұрын
Pure Lithuania
@maczek_1892
@maczek_1892 2 жыл бұрын
5:29 Amogus
@DobryiDENb
@DobryiDENb 20 күн бұрын
Gustaph? ❤
@KevinChantal
@KevinChantal 4 күн бұрын
2023. The video is until 2021
@miraniseini2931
@miraniseini2931 3 жыл бұрын
basically every albanian song lol
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