“Whimsicott and Lilligant are bad because they’re mirror images” “Skrelp and Clauncher are good because they’re mirror images” ?????????????????

Kartana is the embodiment of a glass cannon that rips through everything and Celesteela is the penultimate tank. I think they're fantastic counterparts to each other.

Nobody who ever used Lilligant in her heyday would ever describe her performance in battle as "forgettable".

originally electabuzz and magmar were part of a trio the third one was jynx Scyther pinsir and heracross were also a trio somewhat.

Rampardos=a spear that can pierce anything Bastiodon=a shield that can block anything Both can't exist if the other does and both create a paradox

I hate trade evolution Pokemon especially if it needs a hold item to evolve.

'would i rather side with an eagle or vulture" Vulture, obviously.

Zangoose and Seviper: Two Pokémon hate each other so much that they kill themselves. *Can still make babies*

So you're saying that there is no sense of counterpart to have a ruthless, evil and unkempt vulture as a counterpart to a heroic, patriotic, and classy eagle? And not only that, but that it's the worst counterpart in the whole series? Wow, I didn't realize how unnoticed that could go.

Actually, Zangoose and Seviper aren’t the only hordes where one attacks the other. Durant and Heatmor will do the same. I found that out the hard way when I ran into a shiny Heatmor in my Y version only for it to be promptly killed by the surrounding Durant.

Sorry my dude but I gotta go with Mandibuzz. Vultures, Condors, etc play an exceptionally important role in all ecosystems. Scavengers get such a bad reputation despite the contrary. Not to mention that *it decorates itself with the bones of its enemies and prey.* That's so metal. But kudos for bringing up that gen 4 cartridge exclusive stuff; it's one of my favorite features of that generation. And it hearing about it again reminds me of all times I experimented with my older games to see what new ones I could find.

Whimisicott with Prankster and Liligant with Quiver Dance the worst? o.o dude what are u talking about xD

You cant say that a pokemon is worse than its version exclusive counterpart just because it loses in a 1v1. Celesteela and kartana do completely different things and are both good. They arent meant to be the same pokemon

Even if its crossgen, I feel like Heracross and Pinsir are more related, because Scyther evolved.

how dare u put lilligant and whimsicott to the worst :C

Calls himself "Empreror Cubone" but hates the mon that has a bone within his hair.

Bro this video is literally a powerpoint

I feel like a lot of your opinions are, “This thing is cute, I don’t like it. This thing is cool, I like it.” I’m quite bummed that your lists are so focused on cute = bad and cool = good.

No joke, I picked Moon for the boxart legendary, and was heartbroken about the Vulpix I couldn't get. At least Sandshrew was adorable, so it wasn't a total loss.

Am I the only one who saw magmar - electabuzz - jynx as a trio in generation 1 and generation 2? :( All 3 gained a baby form in the second generation, only magmar and electabuzz gained an evolution in the fourth… :(

Though Alolan Vulpix is cute, the design of Alolan Sandshrew is basically a little igloo which is even more adorable, in my opinion.

Gamefreak is not running out of ideas. That’s not the issue. The issue is bad ideas. Honestly, it makes me so mad when people say that. To clarify, it makes me mad because it undermines the actually good new Pokémon. Yes, I can understand why someone would dislike klefki, garbodor, or vanilluxe, (I like these Pokémon btw) but just because they exist doesn’t mean gamefreak is running out of ideas.

Unova was based on America, not just New York City. There’s tons of grass here.

sounding really biased on that mandibuzz there... "how one stands for honor and valor, and the other is just a perturbed nanny." i can do that too the one stands for trickery and deceit, standing for the evil in the world, with focus on egoistical survival, the other looks like a smaller flying big bird from sesame street not really a fair representation now, is it?

Your rankings are subject to way too much bias. Your Braviary vs. Mandibuzz discussion was basically, "I don't like Mandibuzz, so therefore it's a terrible Pokemon..." Not at all a compelling argument. As opposed to discussing what makes them stand out or not as far as the principles of being version exclusives. Everyone is in most cases going to have a preference over the two, so just because you think one is trash doesn't make them a bad duo.

How is it not okay for Whimsicott and Lilligant to be two-stage "non-descript" Pokemon but Skrelp and Clauncher are fine? I get this is personal preference but your reasoning for the #6 worst is so bewildering. In play styles they're totally different, too. Clawitzer and Skrelp are arguably the same, albeit different abilities. As for the preference on Ludicolo: the only downside for Shiftry is needing a stone? Come on, man. These reasons are just downright whacked. Next time with these videos, can you look into the different play styles, or the stat matchups, or the move sets? Those are FAR better reasons to pick a side.

Sorry dude I disagree with you on mandibuzz and braviairy. 1 it seems like you chose braviairy because "murica" even though vultures (which mandibuzz is based on) as also a common American bird. 2 I find they are very good for what they are both flying types one a bird of honor and the other a bird of dishonor. Sort of a ying yang thing there 3 mandibuzz is always female and braviairy is always male 4 mandibuzz is dark and flying and is in black, black 2 (dark colours) and moon (which is in a dark time of day) Whereas braviairy is normal (which is displayed as a white colour) and flying and is in white, white2 (light colours) and sun (which is in the bright part of the day) They are more ying yang then electrobuzz and magmar electrobuzz is in the grass game which has nothing to do with electric Not that I mean to have a go just I think you have it wrong

Number 6 worst: non descript, 2 stage grass types Number 6 best: non descript, 2 stage water types Lmao Edit: his reasoning keeps getting worse lmao Slurpuff: more one off items to crowd the bag = bad Electabuzz and Magmar: really cool one of items!

Pokémon Mystery Dungeon: Red Rescue Team/Blue Rescue Team has a hilariously bad version exclusive. Red gets Porygon, Blue gets Porygon2. Because of this, Red is able to get both by just evolving while Blue can't. It's baffling.

Pinsir was actually supposed to have an evolution in Gold & Silver, but it was cut for unknown reasons

Evolve with a sun stone, BAD too similar, evolve with an ice stone, AWESOME love it! Must use it more!

Why does it matter of there are more 1 off evo items when there is literally ENDLESS bag space

Whimsicott was a really good pokemon with the right moveset and ability

The second sounds cool, but okay. Why wouldn’t I want a cool scavenger that can devour the bones of my enemies?

your arguments for some of these made no sense at all, some just straight up false

Dude, Lilligant is a really good Pokemon. I used one in my White 2 playthrough, and she was one of my favorites. The strategy with her is Sleep Powder, Leech Seed, then Quiver Dance until the opponent wakes up, and finally, unleash a flurry of Petal Dances. She had Own Tempo so she never got confused by Petal Dance, thus making her an unstoppable beast of a Pokemon. She could tear through teams in an instant and look really pretty while doing so

I got a shiny seviper in a zamgoose hoard... I cried.

Eagles are scavengers too. They just look nicer.

I solved my Seviper/Zangoose horde problem. I had 4 seviper and 1 zangoose (I prefer Zangoose) so how did I make sure I caught the Zangoose? With Ominous Wind Knocking out all the Seviper and not affecting the Zangoose at all.

15:40 Pinser has a big problem and that is that it's outclassed by heracross in pretty much every way. They both mainly use fighting and bug type moves but Heracross actually get's stab on it's fighting type moves. Not only that but while their stat totals are equal Heracross has more balanced defenses so it's much harder to counter. Scyther doesn't have this problem. There isn't much competition for fast bug/flying attackers.

I don't understand your logic with Kartana and Celesteela. So because Celesteela beating Kartana 1v1, that makes them bad as a pair? You bring up Kartana's pitiful SpD but not its amazing base 181 Attack and 131 Defense? This logic isn't used anywhere else in the video. They match perfectly: matching the smallest & biggest UBs with opposing homelands. I'm saying this as a person who doesn't even like Celesteela. Also, I think Mandibuzz is much better than Braviary. Thre personification of America is boring, and while a simple vulture isn't anything new, it's a much more fascinating animal

You probably should have mentioned both Sevipers and Zangoose’s hidden abilities counters the other

You don't really have any knowledge of competitive Pokemon if you think Kartana is bad.

Fun fact: The writers confirmed that the scars on Zangoose are from Sevipers fangs.

First off, Just because Celesteela haves a Movepool That is More Expandable than Kartana, that doesn’t change the fact that both still have 2 weaknesses, and Regardless of which version you play, You we’re still getting a Great Ultra Beast to use in competitive

Funny, I always wonder what kind of person would pick the basic (and played out flying normal type) Braviary over the great design and rarer typing of Mandibuzz.

I love lilligant with own tempo, quiver dance and petal dance it can obliterate everything on gen 5

You do know that Kartana is really, really good right? Seems like you dismissed it based completely on its bad typing

I wish you could use a moon stone for umbreon and sun stone for espeon because I HATE friendship evolution lol

Clawlitzer is a major reason I chosed X over Y. It's like mega Blastoise, but it doesn't need any mega evolution (and looks cooler.) The Magby and Elekid Line were also interesting in B2W2. You find them early on, and both have a place I your team. Magby compete with the Tepig, the Fire Starter ; and Growlithe. Elekid compete with Mareep and Magnemite. Those two are strong Electric Type, but they are bulky, relatively slow ones, so they contrast with Elekid's sheer power and Speed. Having both amazing Pokémon so early was truly great. Now one I really like is Reuniclus and Gothitelle. Two powerful bulky Psychic Type. Reuniclus is extremely bulky with two amazing abilities. Gothitelle mainly wins because of its hidden ability, Shadow Tag. There are a lot of Psychic Type in gen 5, but somehow they managed to catch our attention, and carved a place in competitive battles (I heard Gothitelle was a true pain in Uber) it's worth noting.

2:39 yay, Cubone is biased against Xerneas and prefers his corrupt, destructive bird.

Isn't it Skarmory and Gligar that are the pair? They are both in route 45 in GSC and HGSS and also they are exclusive to the version u are choosing. If that is the case, then they are one of the best pairs.

13:10 the poor kid who found that shiny zangoose. I hope the seviper didn't kill it

I just noticed the birds baby form has a skull as a "diaper"

Arbok evolves into Seviper. I learned that from the anime.

I always thought Gligar was Supposed to be Skarmory's counterpart and Delibird was Mantine's. Come to think of it, it's kind of weird how there are 4 one off flying exclusives in gen 2.

I had the same experience with the gen 4 fossils. I kept on looking for the armor fossil, since I really liked shieldon and bastiodon. After hours, I decided to take a break. I watched a video about all of the version exclusives in each Pokemon game. Then it hit me

I also got Y because I thought Yveltal looked cooler and the exclusives were better, but I regret it now because I didn't know how OP Geomancy was

Cool video, but I'm surprised on your take of Mandibuzz vs. Braviary. The last thing I wanted was another normal/flying type as they're a dime a dozen at this point, hard pass from me. At least Mandibuzz's typing is pretty unique, I'd choose it any day of the week.

Wow, you've never used a Lilligant.

The Seviper and Zangoose rivalry seems like a reference to Rikki-Tikki-Tavi, a short story following a mongoose with cobras as the antagonists.

0:53 STOP BASHING THE PRECIOUS FLOWER BABY!! Liligant is amazing and you can’t change my mind

8:54 That pun just made the video better by ten folds.

The Digimon references are everywhere and I love it.

I personally love Slurpuff

I would side with the vulture they are my favorite animal on earth

Electabuzz and Magmar... We had Jynx too, having a baby-form in gen 2 too, going after the ice-fire-electric thing we had with the legendaries... but it didn't get a third form in gen 4, possibly because of the problem with jynx in gen 1

Petilil and Cottonee are precious and sacred, and I will hear no word to the contrary.

You monster. ...you dare citizen Lilligant But for real...Lilligant was on my team. Mostly because of its moveset and design Sleep powder .giga drain . Petal dance (which goes well with its own ability :Own tempo) and quiver dance. By far the best move introduced in gen 5

"I don't now who started this feud.." Clearly Zans shot first.

Oh wow I came back to this to watch the playlist for background things, and I never noticed that your videos and their quality has come SO FAR

Braviary and Mandabuzz represent the clash between esthetic and usefulness, they are a perfect duo

In regards to the Zangoose and Seviper rivalry, while it's not *quite* the same thing as both sides going at each other, in the Alola region, Mareanie/Toxapex will attack Corsola in an SOS battle. Which is kinda neat since it says the former prey upon the latter, and considering how weak Corsola is, even in game, I thought it was kinda cool how Corsola didn't fight back against it, though, even though I would have hated it if I was trying to catch one, I think it should have had the ability to run away should it's predator be around.

Braviary is how america thinks of itself, mandibuzz is how the world thinks of them.

nooo... Liligant is my favorite non-legendary pokemon,,, I'm sad now

12:57 Zangoose is a mongoose, not. A wolverine

Whimsicott is an incredibly valuable Pokemon for competitive battles. Leechseed/Substitute/Protect/KnockOff with leftovers is capable of taking out loads of tanky Pokemon with chip damage and stalling

The Digimon beside meowth kills me every time. 😂

I like whimsicott cuz it’s so fluffy, it’s one of my favorite grass types!

How dare you! Whimsicott is cute! And liligant.

personally lilligant was my favorite of the two.

This man doesn’t like lilligant. CHARGE!

Me, a person who loves playing with ghost and dark type pokemon: y-yeah who would ever choose Mandibuzz.... haha........... 😢

I encountered one of the horde battles with Seviper and Zangoose. The Seviper was Shiny, the rest were Zangoose. You can imagine how well that went for me.

I agree with maractus being forgettable, i always forget it exists, i got one in a wonder trade once and it made me question whether i actually had completed my living dex

I just bought both games because I wanted them both. Well played, Game Freak... well played. 🙂

Personally, I love Mandibuzz. I missed out on gen 5 and got back into Pokemon at the end of gen 6. So, I speedran X, White, OR, and White 2, and I seemed to like Mandibuzz more than I liked Braviary (mostly because I don't think the sprites or models do the Pokemon justice, Braviary looks way cooler in the artwork for the game). So, I really wanted a chance to try out using Vullaby on my team. So in Moon version, I did just that. I was not disappointed. Primarina and Mandibuzz were my two aces in that playthrough. So, I respectfully disagree with your worst #1 choice, though the fact that you don't encounter them until after the 8th badge in the game they were introduced in, and they both evolve at level 54 doesn't help things and makes it so people aren't likely to give them a chance. But all in all, I feel like there is a compelling choice between the two of them.

Fun fact, it's not really for monetary reasons that Pokemon sell their versions as 2 games... remember, Pokemon was originally created as a product of love dune during the developers free time, and wasn't even expected to be a success... and even when buying it, most people only buy one version (even when the 3rd version comes out)... and it's only been the past 2 gens that Pokemon fans (in general) are adults, so it's not likely for parents to be willing to buy multiple versions of the same game (or even the next in line game for that system). The real reason for version exclusives is to encourage socializing and trading and to give kids reason to chat and argue about the games...

Another awesome video... I just cannot believe that you grew so fast

This was an interesting topic that surprisingly hasn't gotten too much attention. Good job!

I always considered gligar and skarmory to be version counterparts, mainly since they are caught in the same area. I might be wrong about that though.

Once I found a shiny serviper in a horde of zangoose and I never got the shiny serviper.

Okay, you and I are somewhat different trainers. I actually like numbers 4, 5, and 6 on your worst list. Whimsicott and Lilligant are some of the few Gen 5 Pokemon I actually like; they’re cute, I’m holding onto extra Sun Stones in Pokemon GO just so I can get them, and shiny Whimsicott is the mascot of one of my favorite PokeTubers. And while I’m not a fan of Aromatisse, I love Slurpuff; it’s cute, its shiny is one of my favorites, and I use it on two of my Showdown theme teams. (Totally agree with you on numbers 1-3 worst and all the best choices, though.)

Kartana is one of the top Pokémon in OverUsed, which is the top tier that is official rules, it can sweep any teams

Can I get a list of the music you use?? The remix from gen 3 I think during magmar and Electabuzz was lit

actually I'm pretty sure that gligar/gliscor is the version exclusive to skarmory

i was expecting something about my favorite pair Lunatone and Solrock

I still call Mr. Mime, Pinsir, Magmar, Scythe, Jynx, Electabuzz and Tauros "The Rare 7". They all were very hard to find in Gen I (without glitches). And I also love the fact that they all "proceeded" together (with pre-evolutions and evolutions).

Lilligant learns quiver dance, petal dance, and can have the ability Own Tempo so it doesn’t get confused. It’s SO GOOD

14:27 suddenly all i hear was: bacon cheese burger america cowboy