The G'Quan cruiser is just perfection. I love that design.

A note on the Drazi: The reasons there are multiple measurements on Drazi ships is because the Sunhawk and Warbird are 2 different ships that get confused for each other in the series. They both look almost identical except for slight differences, especially in the engine nacelles and the aft section. The Sunhawk is the larger and has the distinct red-orange pulsating 'fusion bulb' at the aft. This is a gravitic engine. The Drazi learned the basics of gravitics from their wars with the Centauri but still lack the ability to apply the tech practically. Tech wise they are more advanced than the Narn but less than the Brakiri or Abbai. This ship as described is only seen in Deathwalker. In seasons 2-5, all Sunhawks that appear on the show were rendered as having an armored rear section with 8 smaller orange-yellow ports visible on each side (they did keep the glowing engine nacelles but they're hard to spot). This change is noted in the AoG books as the Jumphawk command cruiser variant, which is described as a retrofitted Sunhawk with more armor, upgraded weapons, and a jump engine. The Warbird is smaller, maybe 2/3s the size of a Sunhawk, and has a rear section with 6 visible yellow-white panels on each side. Warbirds are seen doing most of the fighting from seasons 3-5. The Warbird variant that carries a Sky Serpent fighter on its back is called a Strikehawk. Seen in Matters of Honor. If you see a Drazi ship that looks big and chunky; bigger than it should be, with wings not swept as far forward as a Sunhawk or a Warbird; that's a Storm Falcon heavy cruiser. One of these is seen in Shadow Dancing. It's the lead Drazi ship after Sheridan says "Carrier groups, come about and engage!" and in this scene you can see Warbirds following it. A second later a Sunhawk/Jumphawk fires a beam that stuns a Shadowship and it is immediately destroyed by another

I'm glad Babylon 5 is still remembered and such high quality content about it is being produced Edit: I am surprised that Victory class isn't on the list. You know, the oversized White Star with a Vorlon laser. Does it not count because there's too much Vorlon in it, or because when the first ones left we stopped being the younger races?

They mentioned that the White Star's armour learns and adapts from previous battles making it more impressive.

The Warlock is up there. It's a shame we never really saw much of it in the show. As much as I love the Omega, it can't compete against its replacement.

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Brakiri Cruiser is my favorite. It doesn’t get as much attention or love for the same reason I love it. It’s similar to the Minbari Sharlin but made to be multi role rather than a dedicated warship. It doesn’t look as aggressive but is still big and beautiful.

ok but when you do another remake, I`d like to see Warlock and Victory! also it`s funny that you say humans overpower their ships while listing Sharlin`s weapons next haha

You forgot to mention that the primus had paper thin armour due to the centari using the platform to test particle shields. Other then that i love this list

Great subject thanks

I was under the impression that the Omega’s weapons were a little weaker than those of the Nova. The Nova’s primary weakness is its slow speed and short range. At close range, a Nova can deliver a lot of punishment, but it was useless during the Minbari War because the Minbari outranged humans by a large margin even without their stealth tech

Could you please talk about the warlock class. Thanks

Honestly I do love the Vree Xorr... the small saucers with the 3 sets of big guns we see in the same episode as a sunhawk.

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Vorlons also had some sort of a shield as shown in their first engagement with the Shadows.

Id include mimbari with the vorlon. Well the oldest of the younger races.

Being honest, if you use the EU. The Drazi Sunhawk and the Vree Xill are definitely outclassed by ships such as the Dilgar Mishakur Dreadnought or the Abbai Lakara Cruiser.

The Vorlon defense was the organic hull. it learned and adapted to the weapons used against it. Think organic Borg, the older the ship, the more experienced it was and the more developed its countermeasures against weapons were. That is why they could absorb some much damage from the weapons of the younger races.

9:14 - love the Irony of LCARS (Star Trek) Interface :P in B5 Context.

I like the white star

I w9uod put the Minbari Cruiser as number one. In a head to head match with a whitestar, the cruiser wins. Now if you have several whitestars, working together, they can do a lot of damage.

I've always wondered how the Omega-class ships (and the Leonov from 2001, which also has a large rotating section) don't have the zero G sections rotating the other direction. Assuming that there is a motor of some sort and a gear set to drive the rotation, the torque from the motor would end up driving the zero G sections the opposite direction. I noticed that Babylon 4 had two counter-rotating sections that would cancel out this issue. Still, cool ships, and the ShadOmegas were even more bonkers. Fun video!

Surprised you went with the Omega over the Warlock. Yes I know she has shadow tech for her sensors and targeting array, but I believe that's as far as it goes. Warlocks twin Mega Particle cannons the same beam weapons used in the defense satellites for earths defense grid are only eclipsed by the Victory's lightning gun among the younger races. Ship very much was a beast.

I heard that the drazi gain hyperspace technology during the shadow war , a minority of the fleet had them by the shows end but we see themin season 5 . With the narn fleet

One thing i love is becuase the design are alien but still a odd human touch to them

The Whitestar, also known as the Pimphand Mark 1...

A note on the Vree, the Xill is actually a more recent design that didn't exist during the Dilgar War. The Xorr War Saucer was effective against other ships in wolf packs but weak against fighters. Many of the League were weak against well armed fighters, a fact that the Dilgar often exploited.

I would like to see a list of top 5 ISA ships at the time of the Drakh War. I would imagine that two would be Earth ships, a 3rd would be partly maned by humans and a 4th full maned by humans

From a purely visual standpoint, I LOVE the Narn G'Quan class cruiser. The problem I have with the B5 universe is they tend to mix up ship classes. For instance, they call the Omega class ship a Destroyer; a Destroyer is a small, fast, maneuverable, lightly armored, and lightly armed gunship, who's primary purpose is to provide a defensive screen for capital ships, against fighters, torpedo bombers, dive bombers, and submarines (of course this is as of WW2) and was never intended to go "toe to toe" against cruisers or battleships. The Omega class is at the very least a medium cruiser, and that is how it is used; it takes on solo scouting and force projection missions. Destroyers are usually part of a larger battle group and very rarely seen alone. A classic battle group would normally be made up of (from smallest to largest) possibly a submarine or two, several destroyers, a couple of light to medium cruisers, and either a battleship, or aircraft carrier, or both. Something I forgot to mention was that, the only time we would normally see destroyers routinely working solo was in a costal defense role.

Im not sure but it sounds like the narn have a vessel called a dreadnaut like a small version of the main cruiser. An escort i think the mimbari have a similar ship for their fleet

The other benefit of the White Star is, the are small and easy to build, and the build huge Fleets of that baby, operating in Packs for multi-vector attacks on much larger Ships or whole Battlegroups of Capital Class Warships. Like the Centauri Vorcha Class Warship. One single Vorcha is not a problem, but a Pack of those Ships, well even the White Star Ships found there Master.

The Drakh are always missing from these lists. I always considered them the Shadows version of the Minbari though maybe not quite as powerful and old? Where would you rank them/their ships among the other races?

You've overstated the armament of a Sharlin-class war cruiser as a readout on the show itself shows that it's armament is 1 antimatter cannon, 2 fusion missile launchers, 6 neutron cannons and 12 fusion beam cannons.

Some errors: G'Quan write-up has a spelling error, its "laser" not "leaser". Primus is pronounced "pr-I-mus", as in "primary" not "premise". Omega destroyer also has 2 heavy plasma mortars on the prow/hammer under the docking bay, they are never used on screen but as canonical, as are the 72 missile silos along each side of its hull, ie. the red hatches running the length of the ship.

@brianwhedon8442 … the Pak’ma,Ra also use Drazi hulls as per the season 4 episode where Delenn encounters the Drakh

Are there any figures on how many of these ships were fielded by the races?

was wondering were do the ship from Crusade spin of will be classified :)

In fairness in the battle with the primus had to fight Babylon 5 as well dividing its fire .

Wait, The Sunhawk is 300 meters long but can only have a crew of 12? That's the length of two Arleigh Burke class destroyers combined and each of them have a crew of 300.

What about two ships not mentioned, the Victory Class, which is made by the ISA instead of assisted by the Vorlons like the White Stars, making it a pure Younger Races vessel even if only two were made? The second is the Earth Alliance replacement to the Omega Class Destroyer, the Warlock Class Destroyer, which was implemented twenty to twenty-nine years before Babylon 5 destruction?

I wonder if the Vorlon defense system on the White Star has the same orangic tech like the Vorlan ships, which has the ability to adapt to attacks and counters. I also wonder if the White Stars are alive like the Vorlon ships?

I like it.

what about the shadow enhanced Human Omega?? also its weird that the Omega is a destroyer and the Hyperion is a heavy cruiser, destroyers are traditionally smaller and faster and get in close.

I'm going to have to check a wiki for this, but is there any relation between the 'Freezil' (according to your spelling) and the 'Streib' that once kidnapped Sheridan? I mean, they both look like the classic 'Grey Aliens' of UFO lore, but the Streib (named after Whitley Streiber, who started the whole 'meme' of Alien Butt Probes 😂) have been shown to actually abduct people, although from memory I think one of the Freezil was on trial for abducting someone's great great grandfather 😄

What are your source for these things? I suspect it is not something canon as say B5WARs?

The Vorlon Defense System is probably the White Star’s ability to heal.

Everyone always forgets the 2 FUCK YOU cannons on the bow of the Omega (big ass ovals under the recovery bay) The side mounted lasers are only to get your attention until the Omega gets those big guns lined up to fire.

they are all my favorites - because they seem so real in their differences, as ships and tanks in WW2 - every faction had their own designs, life is not Star Wars with only 2 rivals, life is not black and white.

The EA-Warlock & the Victory class would have been nice ...

I don't think the Omega is designed to take out a G'Quan or a Primus. I think an Omega is designed to die while taking out a Sharlin. An Omega goes right down the middle, enough armor to hold together until it blasts a Sharlin to pieces or its wreckage shatters the damaged Sharlin. The Battle of the Line was NEVER to be repeated.

All Battleships are warships, but not ALL warships are battle ships...

It would be interesting to see a comparison between B5 ships and Andromeda ships

I don't even need to watch, Sharlin should be the most powerful :D

Who would win . Star Trek vs Babylon 5 ?

I'm curious where you get your information from?

I am sure the superior Minbari ships are not going to object when their lesser Interstellar Alliance allies and their inferior warships show up to aid them in battle. "Oh look, the lesser ability ISA ships have come to help us Minbari fight The Hand, or any of the old races. Do we accept?". It is more likely the Minbari would just send all their allies at the enemy like a big hammer.

Where's the Warlock? The Warlock makes the Omega look like a war conoe!! The Warlock never seems to get love from B5 fans that it deserves

Why is the white star there? Its not a ship solely of the younger races as the vorlons helped design and build.

Most are just simple targets, being heavy and slow moving.

A Sunhawk is roughly the same size as a Constitution Class starship yet it has a crew of 12?

What about the warlock?

As a B5 FAN NEED I SAY MORE ABO THE WHITE STAR HANDS DOWN I FOR ONE WOULD PUT THIS SHIP UP AGENTED THE BORG SPECS 8472 AND MABY THE DOMINION ?. But like I said I was hocked after the first season of B5 .

Why b5 ship's so big with little room for allot crew?

One thing I always found odd in the Babylon 5 universe of quasi mythical powers and ancient super powered, almost godlike, races was the lack of system destroyers. Not on ship or weapon capable of destroying a star. Like the Vorlons and Shadows were both races that ascended past mortal forms and yet had to resort to fairly slow methods of destroying individual planets one by one. Not even destroying them like a single Death Star blast into an asteroid field just obliterating the surface and rendering the planet lifeless. Why couldn't we see one of them launch a Nova Bomb or something and wipe out an entire species worth of contaminated planets at one go?

Omega class was designed to fight the Minbari but realistically the technology difference is too great and they dont stand much of a chance

WOW That's your rating and ok that's personal but i need to comment! First of all, Minbari is not really an old race nor a young... And to put a ship as "light" as the white star at the top bothers me a lot! Sure that's an awesome ship for patrol and escort due to his size but as you can see in the tv show they need a lot of them to face Earth capital ships.... No centauri ships? i do love the design as a point as i have done a 1:1 Vorchan model in minecraft lol. So i respect your opinion but still i have many critics ;)

The Whitestar class ships were not capital ships by far. Thats why they built the Excalibur and her sister ship. They needed something above destroyer class ships. Sheridan specifically calls the Whitestars destroyers

SEVERED DREAMS - IVANOVA! EJECT! there are massive rows of missile bays on the side of the omega class destroyer. You can also see these missile launchers at the back of the ship. These are likely going to be the primary weapon system of the Omega, tactics wise. There are 36 on each side, so it looks like the target is to be overwhelmed. You do this kind of thing as a first strike and then go to guns after the missiles are all fired. The idea is the enemy has to defend against the nuke missiles and the ship that fired them. The 36 bays you can see in the shows cgi on one side and the other are too big to be anything other than for large long range missiles. IVANOVA Her Starfury damaged, Ivanova was forced to eject. We can see here that Ivanova's Starfury was nearly as wide as the missile Launchers, one of which was directly bellow her Starfury. If we measure the scene, we find that Invanova's Starfury was 106 pixels wide. Her Starfury, an SA-23E Aurora, is 17.87 meters wide. Our angle is a little skewed however, so we will round this down to 17 meters, which means that each pixel is equal to 0.16 meters. The Missile Launcher with base is 114 pixels wide, or 18.3 meters. So likely these missiles are the true primary weapons of the Omega, all 72 with nuke warhead. You can see them on the Talos image , the red bays in the middle of the section between the front and the middle of the ship. There are a lot more o them in the rear section of the ship. These missiles were not likely in the show because of the cgi budget. Think about it, two Omega's could launch 144 missiles at B5 and the stations defence system could do nothing to stop them all. The Omega was designed to take on a Sharlin class warcruiser yet has twice the weapons on the rear than the front. It makes no sense until you understand that the missiles are the primary weapon. Two Omega's can launch 144 missiles against a single Sharlin and there is no way that ship can shoot them all down or jam them. Given they are nukes, only one has to get through. Yet the two front weapons are never going to kill a Sharlin class warcruiser. At Nova for example can take a Sharlin class warcruiser on one vs one. Its rip and tear if they can lock-on to the Sharlin. Win or lose they will damage the Sharlin. Warlocks on the other hand have gun's that are the definitive answer to any capitial ship. Warlocks still have the missiles in racks, just like the Omega's.

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Omega ia the Best!

Personal peeve: The plural of craft (as in spacecraft, aircraft, watercraft) is craft, not crafts.

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i think they got confused between feet and meters. 300m is massive especially for 16 people. The USS Nimitz class aircraft carrier is 330m!

it is not charon (tsaron) that means nothing, it is probably pronounced h'aron as in ancient greek and modern greek charon pronounced h'aron (with χ that the english language is inadequate to represent), who is the ferryman of Hades, bringing your soul to the Other World. It is the name also of the moon of Pluto, for the same reason - from ancient greek mythology.

Favorite? - Warlock!

Warlock.

'Prime-us'. Not 'Primm-isss' **Prime** us.

You forgot the warlock class and the victory class both far more powerful than those listed

They copied romulan shops lol the green one

What about the Excalibur?

The display when he explains the weapons and armor is from star trek

Narn couldnt build a proper capital ship if you gave them all the time and resources in the galaxy.

all these are unbelievably, staggeringly, overwhelmingly WEAK for their sizes... A ship 1000 metres long with 6 fighters, less than a 1000 crew/troop capacity and can go only for 12 months at a time? Film/TV producers don't seem to understand the maths of 3d scaling when they do the specs Something the same shape that is twice as long will have 8 times the volume. So that 1000 metre ship literally has close to the volume of 30 modern day super aircraft carriers. Which today hold nearly 100 craft and crew of more than 1000 when required. So what is all the space for??? not supplies either it would seem if it can only go for 12 months. Just literally unbelievable...