Top Constructed Cards from Outlaws of Thunder Junction | MTGGoldfish Podcast

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The crew counts down their top 10 constructed cards for Modern, Pioneer, Standard and Magic Arena formats from Outlaws of Thunder Junction!
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Intro Music: "8 Bit Adventure" By HeatleyBros
• "8 Bit Adventure!" Que...
Outro Music: "8 Bit Ending" By HeatleyBros
• "8 Bit Ending!" Nostal...
0:00 intro
2:57 standard reprints
6:31 new to Arena reprints
15:14 Duelist of the Mind
20:21 Simulacrum Synthesizer
25:19 Lavaspur Boots and Lost Jitte
29:27 Pest Control
33:29 Jace reawakened
38:52 Satoru, the Infiltrator
42:51 Rush of Dread
44:57 Smuggler’s Surprise
50:11 Slickshot Show-Off
54:33 Harvester of Misery
1:00:06 outro

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@marsrocks247
@marsrocks247 Ай бұрын
Gentlemen, you've heard it here. Richard is sure Magic players can break Mana Drain. We've done it.
@Kestral287
@Kestral287 Ай бұрын
That's what it takes for him to think a card is playable.
@KarmicMishap
@KarmicMishap Ай бұрын
​@@Kestral287he actually liked several of the cards they discussed. For once.
@swiftdragonrider
@swiftdragonrider Ай бұрын
Yea but everyone else seems unconvinced. What is wrong with them
@dt8799
@dt8799 Ай бұрын
@@Kestral287 He is the perfect balance to Seth who thinks every card is playable
@Goryus
@Goryus Ай бұрын
Satoru does not draw off his own ETB, unless he was cheated into play somehow.
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Ай бұрын
Yeah, but I don't blame the crew, disgusting templating
@AndrewS-vu4ji
@AndrewS-vu4ji Ай бұрын
I use satoru umezawa's ability to ninjutsu satoru umezawa into play(for four mana) so I can satoru umezawa while I satoru umezawa
@LunaLasceria
@LunaLasceria Ай бұрын
@@Hornet-bz4xg The templating is fine; they just stopped reading halfway through the sentence.
@Hornet-bz4xg
@Hornet-bz4xg Ай бұрын
@@LunaLasceria I mean true but why couldn't they just make it whenever 1 or more nontoken creatures etb... does that change anything?
@fitnesshunter6302
@fitnesshunter6302 Ай бұрын
​@Hornet-bz4xg that's always been one if my biggest gripes with wizards templating. I'm not sure why either though
@Eternalhachiiiiii
@Eternalhachiiiiii Ай бұрын
Grand Abolisher only affects cards on the battlefield (per Gatherer), channeling Harvester should be good
@collinbeal
@collinbeal Ай бұрын
Yeah, it is an activated ability of a Creature *card* , but when something says just "Creature", outside of something like "Protection from Creatures", it means specifically a Creature Permanent on the Battlefield. It's a very specific distinction, so I don't blame them for not knowing off-hand.
@RibusPQR
@RibusPQR Ай бұрын
Yeah, it would have to say "artifact cards, creature cards, enchantment cards" to prevent channeling
@mattm7798
@mattm7798 Ай бұрын
@@collinbeal Yeah, GA seems like it's a little bit older wording style(came out in 2011). If they designed this card now, good chance it would say "on the battlefield" or if they wanted to juice it up, add "anywhere" so it would affect creature cards in hand.
@HeartOfStone.
@HeartOfStone. Ай бұрын
Crimhas to be memeing or trying to undersell mana drain so it doesn't get banned "we already have counterspell" 😂😂😂
@Crusina
@Crusina Ай бұрын
While I miss the individual videos I was not a fan of one video condensing all of them. But having it be on a podcast? That's even better then before. I love this way of doing a top 10 style of the cards
@rockandrolljew89
@rockandrolljew89 Ай бұрын
How could they do a Thunder Junction episode and Seth not wear his hat? Flavor fail
@teafordaniel809
@teafordaniel809 Ай бұрын
I definitely feel transgressed & violated.
@masterthnag105
@masterthnag105 Ай бұрын
The eclipse portal sucked it up.
@JonReid01
@JonReid01 Ай бұрын
They did a crime
@michaelcollins4534
@michaelcollins4534 Ай бұрын
I do feel targeted tbh ​@JonReid01
@Donovarkhallum
@Donovarkhallum Ай бұрын
You're insufferable
@kylejohnson4662
@kylejohnson4662 Ай бұрын
The top Boros deck doesn’t play helix because it’s a convoke deck. It has very little room for any card that doesn’t make a creature. The removal of case of the runaway express scales better in a go wide deck and Warleader’s Call has better reach in that type of deck. If Boros was more of a prowess or burn deck, it would definitely play helix. If red had better control support, then a jeskai control deck would spawn up and play helix. But the meta has lined up in a way that just doesn’t provide a home for helix.
@LunaLasceria
@LunaLasceria Ай бұрын
Yeah, Magic players tend to equate "card does not see play" = "card is bad" which is a very reductive way to look at metagames.
@collinbeal
@collinbeal Ай бұрын
I faced a Jeskai Control deck today on ladder in Standard Bo1, and it was pretty obvious that the splash was for _Lightning Helix_ and their finisher, _Zurgo and Ojutai_
@kylejohnson4662
@kylejohnson4662 Ай бұрын
@@collinbeal Ive seen that deck a little here and there. It feels close to breaking out.
@kylejohnson4662
@kylejohnson4662 Ай бұрын
@@LunaLasceria I agree. It’s like Nissa. She really didn’t see play in standard until the land combo decks came about. Did that mean she was a bad card? Obviously not. She just didn’t have a home yet.
@scratchedaviators1254
@scratchedaviators1254 Ай бұрын
I feel like everyone in Seths life must have told him the cowboy hat didn’t suit him because he never wears it for the cowboy theme😢
@KarmicMishap
@KarmicMishap Ай бұрын
He hated it before he even got it. I can't blame him for not doing something he seems to hate so much.
@elijahwalker323
@elijahwalker323 Ай бұрын
@20:00 I agree there is no way that a 2 mana flying, vigilance */3 that can allow you to loot each turn is bad in standard. @23:10 works with cryptic coat, and itself, realmbreaker, roaming throne, moon smithy, fleshgorger, steel seraph, krenko's buzzcrusher, braided net, mightstone and weakstone, those were like the best I could find. but it is also on ETB, it is going straight into my bernard deck if its affordable.
@camerongrey3643
@camerongrey3643 Ай бұрын
Dunno how Richard loves MDFCs and Lorien Revealed but somehow doesn’t see the value of Harvester of Misery. It collects evidence for 5, it is a creature in the yard (the easiest thing to recur), and it is flexible as either removal or a threat depending on the matchup. It’s not busted in either mode, but both sides are reasonably efficient with plenty of space for synergies.
@MajraMangetsu
@MajraMangetsu Ай бұрын
9:15 the utter confusion of Richard is so funny.
@JimPea
@JimPea Ай бұрын
Terror of the Peaks might be good in the Vampire Push/Pull deck to double up on the game ending reanimation targets. Any combination of Terror and Vein Ripper is dealing a ton of damage.
@john_frankford7450
@john_frankford7450 Ай бұрын
The fact that Aven interrupter wasn’t on the list hurts my soul.
@MTGGoldfishPodcast
@MTGGoldfishPodcast Ай бұрын
It was one of the honorable mentions that didn't quite make the cut, it's good though.
@totakekeslider3835
@totakekeslider3835 Ай бұрын
Really surprised at how much Crim was underselling Mana Drain. It’s not just any counterspell, it’s the best non-free counterspell they’ve ever made. It’s tempo and ramp in one card. There’s a reason it’s banned or restricted in every format, lol.
@camerongrey3643
@camerongrey3643 Ай бұрын
Agree. I think he’s manifesting it staying off the banlist for his personal interest. I will say, though, that it feels like threats have outpaced answers in historic/timeless, and a lot of decks are just racing to do their busted thing before their opponent’s deck does. Still, will be surprised if it doesn’t get banned/restricted here too.
@LunaLasceria
@LunaLasceria Ай бұрын
My tinfoil theory is that he's really just actively trying to anti-hype it so it's less likely to get banned.
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 Ай бұрын
To be fair, in typical control fashion, he just cant think of a finisher to use the mana for.
@swiftdragonrider
@swiftdragonrider Ай бұрын
He also missed the interaction with lurres getting it for free into your hand
@bensteinhauser784
@bensteinhauser784 Ай бұрын
​@@swiftdragonriderThat's not an interaction, just a use for the mana..?
@Kogwah
@Kogwah Ай бұрын
Lost Jitte is broken!!! I expect it to be in half the decks within 3 months IN STANDARD!! Happy to be quoted on this 😉
@Shimatzu95
@Shimatzu95 Ай бұрын
Not sure who said it first but plot being faceup is literally a villian monologing his plan to the main characters.
@wvanhuss4190
@wvanhuss4190 Ай бұрын
The fact crim mixed up mindbreak and archive trap up means he hates mill 😅
@lucalarubbio4367
@lucalarubbio4367 Ай бұрын
When will we get to see the Abzan modern decklist, I want to play it.
@morganmonroe2932
@morganmonroe2932 Ай бұрын
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@stormycat0905
@stormycat0905 Ай бұрын
Simulacrum Synthesizer can put 22 power on the battlefield on turn 2 in a modern affinity deck.
@brunodovalle7621
@brunodovalle7621 Ай бұрын
Grand Abolisher's ability refers to permanents on the battlefield, even though it doesn't state it. So no, it doesn't stop Harvester of Misery just like it doesnt stop boseiju. Sad harvester isn't a spirit plant tho, it looks like a cactus folk.
@KarmicMishap
@KarmicMishap Ай бұрын
I think it's because it says "creatures". Creature cards are not creatures when they're not on the battlefield.
@LunaLasceria
@LunaLasceria Ай бұрын
Now it's going to be forever known in my head as "Sad Harvester", thanks 😂
@bensteinhauser784
@bensteinhauser784 Ай бұрын
​@@KarmicMishapThis is correct. When creatures, enchantments, artifacts, etc. are referenced it is referencing permanents on the battlefield. When referring to a creature card not on the battlefield it will say creature card. From reanimate: "Put target creature card from a graveyard onto the battlefield under your control."
@jacobbrj
@jacobbrj Ай бұрын
Is there any value to getting jace out early without casting it, like with restoration of eiganjo, squirming emergence, or sevinne's reclemation? Or even leyline of anticipation and caring it on an opponents turn?
@IzzetTempo
@IzzetTempo Ай бұрын
In standard, I can't wait to put Smuggler's Surprise into Push/Pull - think that could be a great home for it outside of atraxa ramp
@ironpage
@ironpage Ай бұрын
Lost Jitte untapping Gaeas Cradle, Nykthos, Coffers and Sanctum in Commander, along with any proliferate synergies you can include to abuse the untaps even more per turn, seems pretty good for me. In constructed formats I think it's harder to pull off but I can see some Tron or Nykthos shenanigans happening.
@OceanicBacon
@OceanicBacon Ай бұрын
The Haughty Djinn deck does still exist, cavern is annoying but the Djinn Wins games by himself, and Nathan looks like it would be an amazing addition. Aggro is usually our worst matchup so a vigilant X/3 should be nice 🧞‍♂️
@JacobBos1988
@JacobBos1988 Ай бұрын
Satoru also works with stuff like Ichorid and reassembling skeleton. Also reanimation works.
@lasterman94100
@lasterman94100 Ай бұрын
Yeah, crim is smoking on Duelist of the Mind, I don't know for pioneer/modern, but Standard ? Of course it is good there
@MrSamanthaLover
@MrSamanthaLover Ай бұрын
One aspect of the slickshot show off they didn’t talk about was on turn 2 or 3 when your opponent is holding up their counterspell you can just plot your creature and pass
@omegalazarus
@omegalazarus Ай бұрын
As far as harvester of misery I believe it does count as a creature card in your hand and I think that's the reason because I know that the channel lands count as land abilities for getting the discount from that current cavern that's in standard and so if they're counted as a landability when your channeling them and surely a spell counts
@mightythor-9286
@mightythor-9286 Ай бұрын
What about stone forge in timeless?
@iishinobiii
@iishinobiii Ай бұрын
Id love to win game one with slickshot. Then sideboard out all the OTK stuff. Plot Slickshot and then just do some mid range strategy.
@doggerstyle
@doggerstyle Ай бұрын
Crim, where you hooping at in LA??
@dallinhilton3189
@dallinhilton3189 Ай бұрын
Harvester of misery curves out with Massacre Girl and will draw you SO many cards against boros
@ReyaadawnMTG
@ReyaadawnMTG Ай бұрын
Mill might actually be really viable in Timeless and Surgical Extraction is going to be very very strong to hit the Show and Tell or Omniscience hits the grave.
@tylerturner4163
@tylerturner4163 Ай бұрын
snapcaster and BOB are world champion art cards as well.
@ReyaadawnMTG
@ReyaadawnMTG Ай бұрын
Arena also has one of the best Reanimation targets with Perforator Crocodile that can entomb itself.
@Mythda
@Mythda Ай бұрын
I fucking hate that thing. It's so damn strong.
@ReyaadawnMTG
@ReyaadawnMTG Ай бұрын
@@Mythda I am very excited to reaninate it in Timeless. He’s going to chomp some Deathrites and bowmasters
@WikiED
@WikiED Ай бұрын
I agree with Crim that Duelist of the Mind is going to be good only in like the Memory decks. For some decks the Mastermind if better, for others Ledger Shedder is better. Duelist is simply occupying already heavily contested spot, while being not as versatile.
@dylanbaker3681
@dylanbaker3681 Ай бұрын
Satoru doesn't immediately replace itself of you cast it. You have go spend no mana on the spell to get the trigger. Reanimated, blink, evoke, and ninja, stuff like that will trigger it but casting creature spells won't.
@collinbeal
@collinbeal Ай бұрын
Easy; just plot it with Fblthp 😂
@CptManboobs
@CptManboobs Ай бұрын
Today was a terribly overcast day, I was robbed of my Eclipse viewing by a bunch of stupid clouds.
@josephwodarczyk977
@josephwodarczyk977 Ай бұрын
Asshole clouds.
@aaronjamison5150
@aaronjamison5150 Ай бұрын
I wish this was just the Seth show, I feel like he cares so much more and knows what he is talking about. Sorry Rich and Crim.
@LunaLasceria
@LunaLasceria Ай бұрын
Seth tends to take the most reasoned "middle ground" positions on card evaluation, debates, etc., whereas Richard and especially Crim tend to voice stronger, more extreme opinions one way or the other. It's less not knowing what they're talking about and more them finding it more interesting to plant their flag on "This card sucks!" or "This card is going to break the format!" than to take the more conservative "I can see where this could be good but it'll come down to the meta so we'll just have to wait and see" position on every card. (FWIW I myself also tend to prefer Seth's trying to see both sides to their more highly opinionated styles, but, y'know, I can see both sides =P)
@ConManAU
@ConManAU Ай бұрын
I think if every discussion was “this card might be good, let’s wait and see” then it would get pretty boring fast. The middle ground is only good after you’ve had the hyperbole.
@montefrenkel8205
@montefrenkel8205 Ай бұрын
Smugglers going to be brutal with insidious roots.
@user-rm8ot4tf4f
@user-rm8ot4tf4f Ай бұрын
Reanimate can see play in the necro decks especially if they reprint grief in mh3 and for now you can ran troll and be fine with it
@Germynator31
@Germynator31 Ай бұрын
Does Satoru count himself if Mana was spent to cast him?
@samuelsumuel9683
@samuelsumuel9683 Ай бұрын
17:13 Duelist of Mind feels more like a commander card. If I am drawing enough for duelist to beat someone to death I am winning already without it.
@jaysonking4055
@jaysonking4055 Ай бұрын
I really agree it looks like at best a commander card but I bet it will be good to broken it mirrors ledger shredder very much
@barbedwire9975
@barbedwire9975 Ай бұрын
Duelist is absolutely a constructed card. Baseline it’s a 2 mana 1/3 flying vigilance. It requires shockingly little to make it a 2/3 which looted. That’s just a solid value 2 drop. Your not planning to do some ridiculous combo kill thing where you get the card to one shot, but it’s a strong value 2 drop. And if you ever get a raffine trigger onto it it’s just insane. To be clear it’s a standard card, beyond that I don’t really think it cuts it, but card is good.
@bensteinhauser784
@bensteinhauser784 Ай бұрын
Big disagree. It's a 2 mana 1/3 flyer that looks whenever you commit a crime. Also it has vigilance so it blocks as a 0/3 flyer which is nice.
@ekolimitsLIVE
@ekolimitsLIVE Ай бұрын
Harvester of mystery is better than stomp. If you attack with a 3/3 and get blocked by a 4/4. You can save your creature. With stomp you lose yours too.
@AndrewS-vu4ji
@AndrewS-vu4ji Ай бұрын
Harvester of misery isn't a creature while it isn't on the battlefield, its a creature CARD while its in your hand, and a creature spell while its on the stack. So at least to my knowledge, channel all you want with grand abolisher
@CouchtrollPodcastDS
@CouchtrollPodcastDS Ай бұрын
Unless Jace becomes a bomb, Blue feels bad in this set. White has a great removal cards, black has search cards with creature bombs, green has tons of great cards for multiple archetypes and red has bomb spells
@blainerodgers5294
@blainerodgers5294 Ай бұрын
Satoru doesn’t draw a card if it was cast when it enters right?
@blainerodgers5294
@blainerodgers5294 Ай бұрын
Can’t find the edit button. Assuming he was cast and mana was paid I wouldn’t think he draws a card
@fitnesshunter6302
@fitnesshunter6302 Ай бұрын
For bloomburrow Seth and tomer needs bunny ears (or some other small creature ears) for the reviews
@svendejong8110
@svendejong8110 Ай бұрын
Re: what to do with Mana Drain mana, let me introduce you to a little mechanic called Companion
@randomdude8815
@randomdude8815 Ай бұрын
not sure why no one notice that Jayce becomes a card draw engine, imagine plotting expressive interaction, Sauron ransoms and etc maybe its not that relevant but seems like a lot of cards
@KrenkoMob
@KrenkoMob Ай бұрын
Love the idea of Brian going hard in the paint lol
@TheLightningeater
@TheLightningeater Ай бұрын
I think lightning helix could still have it's time in a prowess jeskai deck
@jimmyfisher3407
@jimmyfisher3407 Ай бұрын
How woulf Pest Control hit Urza Saga, wouldn't be pretected because its an Enchantment Land?
@shaneculbertson4055
@shaneculbertson4055 Ай бұрын
I'm wondering when they're going to add academy manufacturer to Arena.
@danielsniff6405
@danielsniff6405 Ай бұрын
Maybe they could add it with another jumpstart set. Although, jumpstart 2022 wasn't even added to arena, so idk
@jeffe2267
@jeffe2267 Ай бұрын
they don't want to pay for the server costs once it starts going brrr in every brawl game.
@LunaLasceria
@LunaLasceria Ай бұрын
Seth has mispronounced the name so many times, people have completely lost track of what it actually is 😆 (Academy Manufactor)
@Jero1020
@Jero1020 Ай бұрын
No spree wrath?
@Hatneas
@Hatneas Ай бұрын
how did crim and I end up playing basketball at the exact same time lmao
@AkiVainio
@AkiVainio Ай бұрын
Pest Control flavor fail: it mentions varmints, but it kills neither of the varmint cards (sure, there's a card that makes varmint tokens, but one in three is not exactly a win under most circumstances).
@ChinmanPlayCOD
@ChinmanPlayCOD Ай бұрын
MP4 best format
@feetoffthesky1
@feetoffthesky1 Ай бұрын
Mono red devotion with a nykthos and prophetic flamespeaker to play the top card of your deck for free
@RibusPQR
@RibusPQR Ай бұрын
Shoutout to my girl Archangel of Thighs
@collinbeal
@collinbeal Ай бұрын
Yeah she does have nice thighs 😂
@jamescooley5241
@jamescooley5241 Ай бұрын
Seth you can't ramp into jace turn 3...
@_claymore
@_claymore Ай бұрын
the craziest part about Slickshot Show-Off is not the stats, it's the art: dude's throwing buttplugs at his opponents.. wtf?
@Its_McKennon
@Its_McKennon Ай бұрын
The conversation about mana drain is so silly... Crim is talking about the floor of the spell, and not the potential, really clear he hasn't experienced many games with the card. Obviously countering a 1 or 2 drop sucks, but countering a 3 drop, then on your turn 4 you cast teferi, plus, then you're holding up 4 mana for your opponent's turn is filthy... I could easily see mana drain getting restricted and I can't tell if Crim is just meming, cause he memes so often lol
@LunaLasceria
@LunaLasceria Ай бұрын
"Crim hasn't experienced many games with Mana Drain" is an... uhm... let's say "interesting" theory.
@Its_McKennon
@Its_McKennon Ай бұрын
@@LunaLasceria I know he's a big control player, but his opinions in this video would not make me think he has played the card much. You don't need to try very hard to construct a world where mana drain is too good for timeless, and Crim talking about countering 1 drops is so ridiculous that he must be joking.
@diegopereira9452
@diegopereira9452 Ай бұрын
In Hand - creature CARD On the battlefield - creature Grand abolisher does NOT lock the new worm, saddly
@lobbynotlob
@lobbynotlob Ай бұрын
Honestly I don't think Djinn is gonna survive in a post-RIP format. Duelist of the Mind might have to pull the weight. A Flow of Knowledge does beef it up a ton in mono blue, but if Djinn and Terror are no longer reliable, idk what it's partner in crime would be.
@starmanda88
@starmanda88 Ай бұрын
Timeless desperately needs T0 interaction. Mana drain is great but it’s just not cutting it.
@kotw980
@kotw980 Ай бұрын
crim's corgi's distracted me the whole video. what was this video about again?
@latov17
@latov17 Ай бұрын
Full crew episode. Richard is present. Thumbs up.
@nthnthms1212
@nthnthms1212 Ай бұрын
Grand abolisher was trash the last time it was in standard.
@raymondgreen9379
@raymondgreen9379 Ай бұрын
Theres 4 World chaamp cards: Javier, Paulo, Yuta, Nathan
@jeffe2267
@jeffe2267 Ай бұрын
yeah, they got there
@KarmicMishap
@KarmicMishap Ай бұрын
There's more than that. They just aren't as recent: 1997: Olle Rade: Sylvan Safekeeper 1998: Darwin Kastle: Avalanche Riders 1999: Mike Long: Rootwater Thief 2000: Chris Pikula: Meddling Mage 2000: Jon Finkel: Shadowmage Infiltrator 2001: Kai Budde: Voidmage Prodigy 2002: Jens Thoren : Solemn Simulacrum 2004: Bob Maher: Dark Confidant 2005: Terry Soh: Rakdos Augermage 2006: Antoine Ruel: Ranger of Eos 2007: Thiago Chen: Snapcaster Mage
@raymondgreen9379
@raymondgreen9379 Ай бұрын
@@KarmicMishap none of those are world championship cards, those are invitational cards from the now defunct Invitational
@crss29
@crss29 Ай бұрын
.mp4?
@loquacity88
@loquacity88 Ай бұрын
They are wrong about the jitte. It has the same abilities but it untaps a land instead of gaining three life.
@jeffe2267
@jeffe2267 Ай бұрын
Not even close, and original Jitte gave 2 counters.
@iangoldstein4556
@iangoldstein4556 Ай бұрын
It will be sweet in Slicer. It can gain 4 counters per round, and untapping a land let's you keep slinging pumps at Slicer each person's combat
@Kestral287
@Kestral287 Ай бұрын
Literally none of the abilities are the same, and most aren't very comperable. A +2/+2 pump versus a +1/+1 counter, eh probably a reasonable trade off. A creature can't block is so, so much worse than just killing creatures though; it has some different applications but an active U-Jitte just rules the battlefield and prevents so many creatures from even coming down because they'll just die. The land mode is an upgrade from life, probably in general and definitely in specific decks. But, half the counters. That's huge. One Jitte trigger gives four extra damage or kills two X/1s (or one X/2). One Lost Jitte trigger gives... one more damage. Or stops a single creature from blocking for a turn. That's not nearly as good.
@Metroid23456
@Metroid23456 Ай бұрын
Honestly don't think Mana drain will be that good in Timeless. Counter spell is basically unplayable, and no current deck can take advantage of the mana it gives you.
@SpecialKail
@SpecialKail Ай бұрын
Where's SaffronY'allive
@dominicmetzger3246
@dominicmetzger3246 Ай бұрын
Must be aprils fools when mana drain is being trash talked 😂 one of the best non-free counter spells printed. It was fair back when mana burn was a thing
@FearOgre
@FearOgre Ай бұрын
What graveyard decks in standard? lol. Ah yes Crime // Punishment, that card that sees almost no play lol.
@TryhardSnake
@TryhardSnake Ай бұрын
The temur land deck?
@FearOgre
@FearOgre Ай бұрын
@@TryhardSnake Temur control is one, but it is a pretty small amount of the meta.
@collinbeal
@collinbeal Ай бұрын
Temur Lands, Insidious Roots Golgari Midrange, Enchantments, 5c Invasion plays some recursion, Superfriends Proliferate plays Tamiyo, Control plays Deluge, Dimir Toxic Proliferate has that recursive bat, I've seen RDW play Scamp, which has a death trigger, Mono-Black with Virtue of Persistence and recursive threats, Mill with Mindbreaker, my janky +1/+1 deck in Platinum with Recommission, Angels, the meme Sultai Llurgoyf deck, Conspiracy Unraveler Combo, Rakdos Reanimator with Breach the Multiverse, Dimir Control with Siphon Insight, Gruul Ramp has some graveyard shenanigans. There's just a bunch of incidental graveyard use in Standard, enough that graveyard hate is main-deck.
@TryhardSnake
@TryhardSnake Ай бұрын
@@FearOgre Looking on Goldfish at meta percentages for the past 2 weeks, it’s at 11.1%. For reference, Boros Convoke is at 13.6% and Domain is at 9.1%. Doesn’t seem that small, unless you consider Domain and Boros relatively small too. I think the presence is worth some sideboard slots and rest in peace is a great option
@oscarguzman3017
@oscarguzman3017 Ай бұрын
How did the new counterspell not make the list? It's a hard counter at 3, and it can replace itself for 3, as well as do both for 5. Its kind of an unholy marriage between Archmages Charm and Cryptic Command. May not be as powerfull as either, but, it has the qualities of both at a good rate for standard, so there is no doubt that control lists aren't running this.
@LunaLasceria
@LunaLasceria Ай бұрын
1UU is sooo much easier to pay than UUU in any multi color deck, too.
@oscarguzman3017
@oscarguzman3017 Ай бұрын
@@LunaLasceria good point 👉
@Kestral287
@Kestral287 Ай бұрын
It's a hard counter at 3 that's worse than Archmage's Charm in modern. And in standard, it's just a hard counter at 3 and that's enough to choke it out.
@alkhemia23
@alkhemia23 Ай бұрын
Jitte the name of a type of weapon in real life it nothing special lol
@Okamithegod
@Okamithegod Ай бұрын
First
@Shmankafy
@Shmankafy Ай бұрын
Satoru does not ETB draw a card. That's a huge misreading of the card. Satoru, if it enters, and no mana was spent, then it draws.
@coool20
@coool20 Ай бұрын
4 plotted slickshots + a single grapeshot. hold up a wizards rebuke for settle the wreckage. Absolutely horrifying
@jeffe2267
@jeffe2267 Ай бұрын
wow, sick 6 card combo bro
@torresalan1997
@torresalan1997 Ай бұрын
first
@jeffreybono4610
@jeffreybono4610 Ай бұрын
Please. Its eidetic memory not edrick memory.
@pathora4484
@pathora4484 Ай бұрын
Jace Reawakened for Modern looks terrible the static effect along to me makes it unplayable. Modern is far too fast to have a card you can not play at all until your turn 4. This is Serra Avenger but at least Serra Avenger you can cheat into play with Aether Vial before turn 4. The idea that Cascade Decks like Living End would want to play this is even more laughable because it gets hit by Cascade. Can you imagine as a Living End player looking down lethal on the board to Cascade into Jace hearing sad trumpet noises "Wha, wha, wha, whaaaaaaa"
@AndrewS-vu4ji
@AndrewS-vu4ji Ай бұрын
How do I know this is a western podcast? No one is wearing cowboy hats
@brandoncarver2474
@brandoncarver2474 Ай бұрын
Richard made a website that is centered around metagames, doesn’t know shit about metagames himself. Lol
@friendo6257
@friendo6257 Ай бұрын
I think I've figured out what bothers me so much about Richard. He doesn't do well with NUANCE. So when someone says Harvester of Misery can be situationally really good, it matches up really well against certain decks that are prominent in the meta, it's flexible at different points of the game and allows for both early and late game plays. Richard responds with "would you play disfigure if it was legal? stomp is so much better". Stomp is better Richard, well done. Astute observation. This is not Stomp. This is also not Disfigure. Maybe this seems too slow or too situational to make a big impact in standard. Maybe it's relegated to the sideboard in black based midrange decks. But it's still potentially good there. Your avid opposition to cogent points is so frustrating to listen to. I turn off half of your podcasts because it's just so annoying to hear you be so absolutely closed minded to clearly hedged takes on cards. They're not saying Harvester of Misery is super good and will take over the meta, so stop acting like that's what they're saying. Try on nuance for a podcast or two. I think it will suit you well.
@ManrielXiii
@ManrielXiii Ай бұрын
Many comments are useless information.
@ManrielXiii
@ManrielXiii Ай бұрын
I swear I'm getting dejavu watching this
@Pazlum
@Pazlum Ай бұрын
Krim is so dumb. He’s obviously never heard of chalice of the void or Lorian revealed for colorless manna. Also, I could just play eight counter spells now..
@ieatmygarden
@ieatmygarden Ай бұрын
You can’t even spell his four letter name correctly! 😂
@Pazlum
@Pazlum Ай бұрын
@@ieatmygarden I was using text to speech on my phone. Also you can’t complain about my opinion/take so you have to complain about spelling errors?
@znachwd2015
@znachwd2015 Ай бұрын
Thar Richard guy is so annoying. His takes are terrible... Why he is even there?
@ChrisMusson-kv8ph
@ChrisMusson-kv8ph Ай бұрын
Because he owns MTG Goldfish genius.
@znachwd2015
@znachwd2015 Ай бұрын
@@ChrisMusson-kv8ph i see. For sure he is not there for his knowledge or personality.
@SmokeADig
@SmokeADig Ай бұрын
I can’t stand Crim.
@CptManboobs
@CptManboobs Ай бұрын
I feel like you could actually make a really nasty Modern deck with Rest In Peace in the main deck if you also play Bessech th Mirror. I dunno how it took this long for me to think about it. You could play Wasteland Scavenger in the deck too, yeah I'm thinking this might actually have legs.
@CptManboobs
@CptManboobs Ай бұрын
Lost Jitte would be good if it also entered with counters. The fact you need to swing first to start getting value out of it makes it's play pattern kinda cringe.
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