Top Secret Out-of-Shield Options in SSBM

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Top Secret Out-of-Shield Options in SSBM

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Three of the best out-of-shield options in SSBM are highly unorthodox. These options are rarely discussed among the mainstream.
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@yugutugut 2 жыл бұрын

Old melee: don't get hit New melee: just get hit

@Pslamist 2 жыл бұрын

Maybe Isai actually knew this and told people misinformation that sounded cool to keep the secret to himself, giving him an advantage.🧠

@slayervenn6783 2 жыл бұрын

@@Pslamist He knew all of these techs, he just wasn't trying

@Boyzby 2 жыл бұрын

All I could hear in my head while watching this is Scar going "Melee is sick" repeatedly.

@Donpatch0NT 2 жыл бұрын

Could you show the inputs for the Shield ASDI against shines that was shown early in the video in another video? Would be very helpful information

@BreakfastKids 2 жыл бұрын

yes please! honestly for each asdi input it would be very helpful

@alibissbm4086 2 жыл бұрын

It's just moving the grey stick in the direction you want to go in while you're in shield stun frames. Tap right, move right. Tap left, move left. Same as regular SDI/ASDI. I think the examples down were 1 SDI input and 1 ASDI on top. Specifically for ASDI, you're just holding the direction you're trying to move in, as ASDI is applied on the last frame of the shield stun.

@SuperWildYoshi 2 жыл бұрын

@@alibissbm4086 so ASDI is holding the C stick down with anolog grey stick as well?

@shadoninja 2 жыл бұрын

That is the part he isn't explaining. If you are trying to SDI a shine like that, you will need to be insanely precise. Often times, you will probably roll instead.

@eef_freef 2 жыл бұрын

I wish I loved a game the same way that melee players love melee

@alfredusmagnus 2 жыл бұрын

Play melee and love meleee

@MegaStunfiskandHat 2 жыл бұрын

Then become a melee player. It's really not as hard as people pretend it is as long as you're willing to put in a little effort and don't expect to instantly be good

@EEEEEE1337 2 жыл бұрын

c'mon Jon, 10 minutes a day of basics and you will be fine in no time :)

@josephberard1227 2 жыл бұрын

Join us Jon, Join us

@Rael0505 2 жыл бұрын

I love melee more than anything in the world LOL it's true

@rkraccoons 2 жыл бұрын

If you're on boxx, you can mash the direction you want to shield sdi while holding the modifier so you don't roll EDIT: wait, but yoshi can't jump out of his shield, so he cant do the air to ground transition on the waveshine

@gerudokupo2225 2 жыл бұрын

It doesnt hurt to option select as you make a parry attempt, in particular with a fast DJ to armor many things slower than shine

@bluefalcon7 2 жыл бұрын

You don't need to be in a shield situation to take advantage of this it can help in a reversal for example if fox cc shines a yoshi nair that forces an air to ground transition. Making the nair safe despite the fact fox cc'd it basically requiring fox to carefully time his counter attack so that yoshi land's fully before Pressing shine which is easier said than done in the scramble.

@rannynihilius8481 2 жыл бұрын

Ayo hax thanks for spreading awareness about Leffen and Jisu again we finally got them. You putting your reputation and smash career on the line wasn't for nothing #WelcomeBackZeRo

@KIJHK 2 жыл бұрын

#HaxWasRight

@defibillytor6639 2 жыл бұрын

nice, a video that actually helps with spacies' counterplay!

@SufferDYT 2 жыл бұрын

It actually helps fox/falco in that all these scrubs are going to be mistiming the asdi and rolling into my shine

@sharkquisha3407 2 жыл бұрын

@@SufferDYT not really. This isnt a well known tech and those few who know about it will probably practice and be able to do it properly.

@TrucidOL8R 2 жыл бұрын

Amazing video.. honestly I never considered any of these options before

@quinoa8074 2 жыл бұрын

I was excited when I saw yoshi at 2:00 until I remembered he can't jump out of shield :(

@cancelskawoforgivingmedlib4710 2 жыл бұрын

The roll thing should still work! You can also just let go of shield

@gerudokupo2225 2 жыл бұрын

It also works out of mistimed parry, just sayin' :)

@theInstituter 2 жыл бұрын

#unbanhax literally still contributes to the community whilst being banned because he speaks the truth.... we don't deserve this, yet he's still pumping out some great content, dare I say more than the average notable melee players. this man loves the game and the community that banned him

@E-Brightvoid 2 жыл бұрын

Pretty sure he will be calm down

@E-Brightvoid 2 жыл бұрын

Also is he even banned rn?

@theInstituter 2 жыл бұрын

@@E-Brightvoid yes he's still currently banned from the community, melee online discord, and from attending tourneys, no news as of yet even after his appeal i think

@nicememe8608 2 жыл бұрын

@@E-Brightvoid being complacent with a menace in your community is not something to be applauded. “being calm” is bullshit

@sharkquisha3407 2 жыл бұрын

@@nicememe8608 despite some of the outlandish references he made in the video he still had a lot of valid points and testimonies from other people. Him getting banned because Leffen felt "unsafe" only lends credence to his point.

@nihil626 2 жыл бұрын

2:00 Wait, did Hax just call Falcon viable?

@ballertheking1038 2 жыл бұрын

Did you not watch his last tier list?

@Velyren 2 жыл бұрын

Are we just answering questions with questions? (Oh no it cant be stopped now)

@christostsipouras7287 2 жыл бұрын

@@Velyren Did you really intend it to be stopped?

@greg4587 2 жыл бұрын

@@christostsipouras7287 Do you really think they did?

@Metroyeti17 2 жыл бұрын

Combo breaker

@clipCommander101 2 жыл бұрын

I just started really labbing my out of shield options last night so this is perfect timing

@gnardawgyt 2 жыл бұрын

Gotta think of ways to practice this, thanks Hax

@colinmurphy2214 2 жыл бұрын

Cc and asdi being used as oos options are the most comical examples of them being broken imo

@carterghill 2 жыл бұрын

Hax, I have emailed your support team 3 times with no response. My 1.03 ordered was cancelled without notification or reason and I was not refunded. What is going on with your 1.03 memory cards?

@yelv 2 жыл бұрын

WAKE UP BABE, NEW HAX MONEY VIDEO

@yurilowell9365 2 жыл бұрын

Hax you covered Rolls, SG, and Jump, but what about spot dodge with sdi/asdi?

@fragile1964 2 жыл бұрын

So that means if im getting naired shine pressured as icys i can jump before shined and get a grab??

@patrickmcdunn6498 2 жыл бұрын

Icies are a little trickier because the shine will send you further due to their low traction. I would lab it out. It's possible that you'd move far enough away that by the time you run or wd back in, they can spot dodge

@WaldoFindsYo 2 жыл бұрын

is there a reason u put yoshi in the category that can jump out of shield to combat fox pressure when yoshi cant jump out of shield at all?

@AlexRoseGames 2 жыл бұрын

I am stealing asdi down option select while rolling from now on, it's a complete no brainer

@wordsoflove8787 2 жыл бұрын

You were right all along man

@gerudokupo2225 2 жыл бұрын

expect... yoshi cant jump out of shield... naw but it is good out of parrying a fox nair lol

@Lampaluile 2 жыл бұрын

wooooow the roll option select

@jacobshawn5309 2 жыл бұрын

This is amazing. Thank you Hax

@marquistf1996 5 ай бұрын

I think this is something jmook uses at a high level to reverse pressure

@ch3rry833 2 жыл бұрын

This game is just amazing and has always some optimizations to do, I love it

@dahuterschuter 2 жыл бұрын

Yoshi can't jump out of shield tho

@jugohayashi2389 2 жыл бұрын

I was about to say... Lol

@isaiahsanderman1742 2 жыл бұрын

does the second topic, jumping into fox shine, work for mewtwo as well? As in, are there less frames of stun if you jump into the shine?

@lohn2559 2 жыл бұрын

Mewtwo probably tumbles from shine unfortunately, he’s quite light.

@lohn2559 2 жыл бұрын

(Not 100% sure though)

@Ganobrator 2 жыл бұрын

Why did you include Yoshi in the anti-fox jump out of shield portion? He can't do it.

@donjuan8664 2 жыл бұрын

I offended that luigi isn't counted as viable...

@wermaus 2 жыл бұрын

ah yes it takes effect by frame 6 for all characters including for me a bowser main interesting in consuming melee resources for whom which it definitely doesn't take 9 frames total.

@Swill_ 2 жыл бұрын

i welcome the roll meta

@lolislayer4944 2 жыл бұрын

This is so advanced lol

@E-Brightvoid 2 жыл бұрын

Now THIS is podracing

@Chef_Cookem 2 жыл бұрын

old meme is old 😪

@SufferDYT 2 жыл бұрын

Even if you are a character that tumbles from shine you can buffer a tech as you jump also, so it might be decent as them too.

@lohn2559 2 жыл бұрын

Even if you were to hit the tech, it would be a MUCH worse option than just shielding the shine. Teching takes a long time. By the time you are done teching, you have 0 chance to punish fox, and you yourself are probably going to get punished.

@SufferDYT 2 жыл бұрын

@@lohn2559 Not if the fox went for shinegrab, then you would be out before they can punish the tech. Like with every thing in fighting games, it depends.