How to Live Forever in SSBM

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Aziz Al-Yami

Aziz Al-Yami

4 жыл бұрын

Through the use of multiple physics exploits, the player on the receiving end of a high knockback attack can cause an unintended sequence of events and survive until astronomical percents.
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@antlerman1357
@antlerman1357 4 жыл бұрын
"By performing a TDI floor hug, then techrolling, then using 8 spotdodges..." If I see anything like this in a real game I would go insane lmao
@HeyItzMeDawg
@HeyItzMeDawg 4 жыл бұрын
Y'know, I read the comments before I watched the video and I thought you were meming there with that "8 spot dodges" at the end...
@SupBroLetsChill
@SupBroLetsChill 4 жыл бұрын
Right?! Imagine this in grands at a major. I would lose my shit.
@Weyk47
@Weyk47 4 жыл бұрын
SupBroLetsChill Borp is gonna come back and be a god,.
@calacatchy
@calacatchy 4 жыл бұрын
Weyk47 borp was ahead of his time
@Berlinwood27
@Berlinwood27 4 жыл бұрын
lowkey like daigo parry but can get blown up p easily lmao
@DareToShine
@DareToShine 4 жыл бұрын
Isai "Don't get hit" Hax " Don't die"
@Faulheit
@Faulheit 4 жыл бұрын
the year is 2020, frame perfect taunts are the optimal strategy
@JuliuSeizure
@JuliuSeizure 4 жыл бұрын
change to 20XX for more likes
@equinox-XVI
@equinox-XVI 4 жыл бұрын
Oh damn 20XX is legit 2020, so we've finally made it to the year everyone was memeing about And the crazy thing is, we weren't that far from what's actually happening
@JuliuSeizure
@JuliuSeizure 4 жыл бұрын
@@equinox-XVI but when peaople talk about ness timelines the say 20XX or 19XX meaning 19th or 18th century
@equinox-XVI
@equinox-XVI 4 жыл бұрын
@@JuliuSeizure well yeah, but it's fun to break the rules a little and say the year is written in numbers and Roman numerals
@antoniogamer5590
@antoniogamer5590 4 жыл бұрын
@@equinox-XVI my boy Roy won a major
@EvilApple567
@EvilApple567 4 жыл бұрын
"Did he just walk up slowly, and downsmash? He did, he really did though, but Fox floorhug teched followed by two spotdodges, tumbled to ledge then ledgedashed and waveshined him across the stage into upsmash" Yo Mango, are you gonna let him do that to you?
@alexkfridges
@alexkfridges 4 жыл бұрын
Top tier comment
@bruceU
@bruceU 4 жыл бұрын
"he really did though. he really did."
@nickb8755
@nickb8755 4 жыл бұрын
Is that you Dave-O?
@sleepyavenue5572
@sleepyavenue5572 4 жыл бұрын
This is the best comment to ever exist
@MyAce8
@MyAce8 4 жыл бұрын
"what percent does fox Nair kill falcon again?" hax: "no"
@tilnation14
@tilnation14 4 жыл бұрын
Nair kills at 2??%, down smash is the one that doesn't ever kill.
@Metroyeti17
@Metroyeti17 4 жыл бұрын
Based on the title I just assumed Hax found a way to upload his consciousness onto a GameCube memory card.
@joelmankinen
@joelmankinen 4 жыл бұрын
best comment i've seen in a while
@Bones0
@Bones0 4 жыл бұрын
What do you think the next video is for?
@jakexdilla
@jakexdilla 4 жыл бұрын
mans is making an irl version of the forge from westworld
@Slashtap
@Slashtap 3 жыл бұрын
I'm screaming
@GinjouArmy
@GinjouArmy 3 жыл бұрын
That is dumb.... especially since he already did that but instead he used the BOX.
@LazyLee
@LazyLee 4 жыл бұрын
when falcon hugs the floor, it's "tech" when i do it, it's "depression"
@yakovhadash
@yakovhadash 4 жыл бұрын
m o o d
@nizzwarb764
@nizzwarb764 3 жыл бұрын
Pressure tech and depression tech Wombo combo
@GimR
@GimR 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome stuff once again!
@jonasrivers3675
@jonasrivers3675 4 жыл бұрын
How come you don't make smash videos anymore?
@clutchedbyanangel
@clutchedbyanangel 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonasrivers3675 It's been one week, relax
@jonasrivers3675
@jonasrivers3675 4 жыл бұрын
@@clutchedbyanangel I just went through all the videos public on the channel, I don't think he ever did tbh.
@mike.semark
@mike.semark 4 жыл бұрын
@@jonasrivers3675 he literally made a video a week ago
@xue1379
@xue1379 4 жыл бұрын
@@mike.semark dafuq are you blind
@ConnorRentz
@ConnorRentz 4 жыл бұрын
Hope this makes competitive play much more ridiculous. Here's a fun fact about editing this one: The very last change to this video was made the night before this came out around 3 AM. We just changed a single coordinate in one image.
@zelda489
@zelda489 4 жыл бұрын
Love the dedication, you can feel the love that has been poured into every single one of these videos. Always looking forward to them.
@JasonPegis
@JasonPegis 4 жыл бұрын
Big “Half an A-Press” vibes and I love it. Incredible and valuable content for the community.
@Tentaclear1
@Tentaclear1 4 жыл бұрын
Next video is about how to enter PUs to survive fox’s nair
@Rom0.5
@Rom0.5 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see people taunting at the edge of the stage to survive. It's going to be the hypest piece of tech ever. I think Hax you just changed the game with that video. Great content, it's mind blowing as always.
@lucherren9871
@lucherren9871 4 жыл бұрын
and a taunt would be even more of a flex cause its frame prefect ;D
@equinox-XVI
@equinox-XVI 4 жыл бұрын
If someone survives a hit at 300+%, asdi-tdi techrolls into a frame perfect taunt, I dont care how good you are, you gotta unplug your controller after that
@DarkwingDuc
@DarkwingDuc 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit, I remember Ice talking about this technique a couple of years ago and I can specifically recall him talking about having to taunt to prevent your character from falling offstage.
@ricardoludwig4787
@ricardoludwig4787 4 жыл бұрын
ah yes, Plot armor as a mechnic
@michaelcastelpoggi1735
@michaelcastelpoggi1735 4 жыл бұрын
I can't wait to see top players spotdodging 3 times at the ledge just to get upsmashed by the other player
@GD-ev7tp
@GD-ev7tp 4 жыл бұрын
But a mixup would be to spotdodge only enough times to reduce traction (or velocity) so it no longer kills you, then recover normally. Admittedly still puts you in edgeguard/ledgetrap situation but it's better than the previously guaranteed death. Jesus imagine this mastered truly 20XX BS then XD Oh shi and could you do a frame perfect jump off ledge to maximize your recovery? :O
@ChamplooMusashi
@ChamplooMusashi 4 жыл бұрын
The reason Hax is recommending spot dodging is cause there is a 1 frame window for normal inputs, but spot dodges can be buffered in a 4 frame window and chained in such a fashion. A much more practical but more precise option is to use another grounded move with just enough frames to allow for survival but not for a punish if the spot dodge would last too long.
@kianjelogiorgio1713
@kianjelogiorgio1713 4 жыл бұрын
At least it gives you a chance
@jesusalc1421
@jesusalc1421 4 жыл бұрын
ChamplooMusashi like what other move? I feel like spot dodge is the only option every other grounded attack would have more lag
@rakkatytam
@rakkatytam 4 жыл бұрын
@@jesusalc1421 what about jabs?
@DoubleCFiend
@DoubleCFiend 4 жыл бұрын
I thought "live forever" was an exaggeration until I saw the clip at 12:20
@Faulheit
@Faulheit 4 жыл бұрын
wait you're telling me that falcons spotdodge was actually good all along
@herbmaaster
@herbmaaster 4 жыл бұрын
don't downsmash me or my son ever again
@Ayyem93
@Ayyem93 4 жыл бұрын
Some memes deserve to come back after a while good on ya m8
@rarebeeph1783
@rarebeeph1783 3 жыл бұрын
imagine playing fox, you nair this falcon while he's at 180 and you're like "he's so dead" and he just fuckin rolls across the stage, goes "show me your moves," and sends your ass to the blast zone
@Xrelent
@Xrelent 4 жыл бұрын
Fun facts: - Your momentum is cancelled if you edge teeter. So Peach's dsmash and Doc's dtilt don't even need the taunt or spot dodge. - Due to ECB updates, Falcon's knee is almost impossible (except for Puff and 4 low-tiers) to Amsah tech when fresh or partially staled. It requires a frame perfect (1 extra frame leniency when fresh) SDI with a precise angle that depends on your damage.
@jamespalsson746
@jamespalsson746 4 жыл бұрын
Ah, I understand. You can spot dodge with the c-stick as well as the analog stick.
@kurlZz
@kurlZz 4 жыл бұрын
"There's so much more Melee to be played"
@zachbolotaulo7513
@zachbolotaulo7513 4 жыл бұрын
leave it to hax to create a new tech when i thought i learned everything from melee
@AtlasMillerViolin
@AtlasMillerViolin 4 жыл бұрын
Thinking u have learned everything was ur first mistake friend
@FortWhenTeaThyme
@FortWhenTeaThyme 4 жыл бұрын
This tech is about 14 years old.
@ThePharphis
@ThePharphis 4 жыл бұрын
This one is certainly old news. It's in TASes from ages ago. Good breakdown though and shows where and when it might be feasible.
@guitarwithjamesoffical
@guitarwithjamesoffical 4 жыл бұрын
9:24 no hax I’m honestly a bit lost. 😭
@versutus2699
@versutus2699 4 жыл бұрын
I can imagine TDI floorhugging becoming a new important tech to grind and practice. Thank you for revolutionizing 2020 melee Hax
@samerfaizi2914
@samerfaizi2914 4 жыл бұрын
It's called an Amsah tech bro, it's been important tech for a long time.
@iggelitoGamingHD
@iggelitoGamingHD 4 жыл бұрын
@@samerfaizi2914 Ye but spotdodging making you grab ledge+ be invinsibel is game changing tho
@argonaww
@argonaww 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Hax, very cool!
@benzen5190
@benzen5190 4 жыл бұрын
Not only did i learn an extremely complicated tech, I also learned you can spotdodge with Cstick. Now that’s value.
@math_u6332
@math_u6332 4 жыл бұрын
Normal Winnie the Pooh: Amsah Tech Fancy Winnie the Pooh: TDI Floorhug
@sageosaka
@sageosaka 4 жыл бұрын
i've played this game for almost 20 years, and i consistently am surprised and amazed at the level of bullshittery and awesomeness that it exudes. melee is fucking sick.
@dereklewis4321
@dereklewis4321 4 жыл бұрын
The depth of Melee is insane. Moral of the story, work 18 hour days and get the thing done in 10 months for the perfect fighting game.
@Magcargo96
@Magcargo96 4 жыл бұрын
Love this type of content, please keep it up! It’s incredibly informative. I never knew the tumble % differed per character. I wish Smash Ultimate players would make content like this.
@WgZpazo
@WgZpazo 4 жыл бұрын
This is some insane shit. Every melee vid I see you post has taught me more about the game than I ever imagined. Props to you.
@NaJk93
@NaJk93 4 жыл бұрын
I just see a fox down smashing a Falcon. Falcon floor hugs, tech rolls, does three spot dodges. The fox grabbed the ledge during Falcons roll and rockcrocks his recovery anyway lol.
@Young-bx2pf
@Young-bx2pf 4 жыл бұрын
So a TDI floorhug tech is the same thing as a amsah tech, right?
@nothanksthough
@nothanksthough 4 жыл бұрын
Yes
@Suckmycog
@Suckmycog 4 жыл бұрын
Just watched the whole video and I dont even play Melee, epic
@wolfd95
@wolfd95 4 жыл бұрын
You do great work, sir. Thank your for your service.
@zipar3132
@zipar3132 4 жыл бұрын
This is beautiful. Thank you for using CF and Fox.
@VergilSFD
@VergilSFD 4 жыл бұрын
This brought a tear to my eye. Thank you.
@09cf
@09cf 3 жыл бұрын
these need so much more attention, my god
@JonnyfromElma
@JonnyfromElma 4 жыл бұрын
Every time Hax uploads a youtube vid, Uncle Punch lets out a deep sigh.
@wraith4978
@wraith4978 4 жыл бұрын
although a follow up to the d-smash might've been a good option for fox, falcon is able to mix up his rooting with a punch, a taunt and a dodge. i await the day in which this is common knowledge and everyone plays like anime fights.
@Saskaruto16
@Saskaruto16 4 жыл бұрын
The problem is that all three of those options can be easily covered by a charged upsmash or grab.
@beatsbyxdrumzzx4485
@beatsbyxdrumzzx4485 4 жыл бұрын
yo this video is sick. i lost it after the falcon taunted to double root himself on stage. def gonna start using this.
@SheeshFr
@SheeshFr 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you for making this.
@rented1102
@rented1102 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Professor Hax, very cool.
@seblingtonw
@seblingtonw 4 жыл бұрын
I'm not even into melee much (too old to play properly) but I sub just for the knowledge, it's impressive and very well presented, good job aziz
@XK49
@XK49 2 ай бұрын
Can you imagine a falcon spot dodging in front of you 4 times in a row. I wouldn’t even try to follow up. I’d just watch the show
@saraskyline8331
@saraskyline8331 4 жыл бұрын
Jesus the amount of effort put into all these videos
@lucasmiddleton485
@lucasmiddleton485 4 жыл бұрын
Dude 21.900 subscribers, 21.055 views; almost every subscriber watches your videos. You're SICK!!
@Slashtap
@Slashtap 3 жыл бұрын
My friends tried to teach me double stick DI in 07 and now it finally makes sense
@salvatore_slate
@salvatore_slate 4 жыл бұрын
incredible
@trikronika
@trikronika 4 жыл бұрын
As evident, hax dollar has left the physical world to live out the quarantine inside Melee's game code.
@Doth_
@Doth_ 4 жыл бұрын
These videos have been helping me understand so much. Also marths grab can root him lol. Is there anything else that can be buffered besides spotdodge? I assume not cuz you didn't talk about it but I gotta ask anyway
@Austin_In_Chains
@Austin_In_Chains 4 жыл бұрын
This is just bananas
@equilateral1532
@equilateral1532 4 жыл бұрын
Do you ever consider adding background music to your videos? Great stuff as always Hax$
@SheepHairOG
@SheepHairOG 4 жыл бұрын
I'm very surprised he didn't mention how this tech is referred to as amsah teching by the community, or how you can fastfall and grab ledge after doing it. I don't know if it works all the time or if your knockback has to be reduced to a certain amount, but as Falcon I feel like you'd almost always want to grab ledge then ledgehop back with an invincible move or ledgedash rather than any of the options he has to stay onstage.
@iskamag
@iskamag 4 жыл бұрын
melee is floor gang confirmed
@oscarm6990
@oscarm6990 4 жыл бұрын
we're working at home during quarantine, while hax is writing his thesis
@thecakeofreason
@thecakeofreason 4 жыл бұрын
Can't wait to see Wizzy surviving nairs and d-smashes infinitely in tournament
@imgayasheck595
@imgayasheck595 4 жыл бұрын
Aziz "Singularity" Al-Yami
@ukuleletodd
@ukuleletodd 4 жыл бұрын
Insane
@williamwilliam4944
@williamwilliam4944 4 жыл бұрын
Incredible
@Zafraud
@Zafraud 4 жыл бұрын
Is there any way to figure what moves have the rooted property for characters so I know what options I have with different characters?
@zachstarattack7320
@zachstarattack7320 4 жыл бұрын
Ur insane bruh
@ImagzSniping
@ImagzSniping 4 жыл бұрын
This shit goin way over my head
@lucagacy
@lucagacy 4 жыл бұрын
Holy shit this an amazing video
@michaeljacobs5059
@michaeljacobs5059 4 жыл бұрын
The year is 20XX, matches are decided by whichever Fox out floorhug techs the other to death.
@maxnul
@maxnul 4 жыл бұрын
I clicked the video 16 seconds after you posted you bet I'm watching the next one
@LovelyToaster
@LovelyToaster 4 жыл бұрын
so wait are analog stick spotdodge universaly bufferable ie you can input them 4 frames before ~any~ grounded action ends to get the frame perfect one?
@PersonOfBlah
@PersonOfBlah 4 жыл бұрын
You can reduce the number of spotdodges you need to perform by inputting a fast fall then letting go to quickly snap to ledge even with a bunch of momentum.
@Mahamaru
@Mahamaru 4 жыл бұрын
Ultimate has more rooting than the amazon rainforest
@Dendearts
@Dendearts 4 жыл бұрын
in the year 20XX fox's down smash will never kill falcon (mind blown)
@juliosnap
@juliosnap 4 жыл бұрын
Sick shit Hax I love you. But I gotta let you know that the emphasis in "airborne" is on the first syllable. Like AIRborne instead of airBORNE
@Azzucips
@Azzucips 4 жыл бұрын
Also worth noting that you can fast fall to ledge if your x kbv isn’t too high
@Masaru_kun
@Masaru_kun Жыл бұрын
People learn your percents and then cry when I CC and continue to tech you anyway
@Lampaluile
@Lampaluile 4 жыл бұрын
actual knowledge bomb by hax
@schrettvette4884
@schrettvette4884 4 жыл бұрын
Can characters with a neutral charging special move like mewtwo or Samus just hold charge until releasing to live forever instead of doing multiple spot dodges?
@turndownforwalt
@turndownforwalt 4 жыл бұрын
hey hax ur handsome
@Luna-Lux
@Luna-Lux 4 жыл бұрын
OPTIMAL TAUNTING
@Raddishist
@Raddishist 4 жыл бұрын
God
@IcyFlameDragon
@IcyFlameDragon 4 жыл бұрын
Prometheus bringing us the fire of the gods
@CharlesLeak
@CharlesLeak 4 жыл бұрын
I don't even play, I just love seeing the depth in this game. It's so cool to see that this game is still being advanced.
@HighDeafRadio
@HighDeafRadio 4 жыл бұрын
Same lol
@jakezepeda1267
@jakezepeda1267 4 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing with other games. But its a gateway drug
@CharlesLeak
@CharlesLeak 4 жыл бұрын
Actually, I was inspired to play again today.
@jakezepeda1267
@jakezepeda1267 4 жыл бұрын
@@CharlesLeak awesome :D
@maxnul
@maxnul 4 жыл бұрын
Yessirr
@hgt_sr7034
@hgt_sr7034 3 жыл бұрын
In doubles you could nair Luigi into taunt spike for the sickest team combo
@bren4822
@bren4822 4 жыл бұрын
thx hax
@math_u6332
@math_u6332 4 жыл бұрын
What is the main difference between a tdi floorhug and an amsah tech? From my experience, you get the same result just by doing an amsah tech and then fast falling right when you slide off stage to immediately grab the ledge.
@nothanksthough
@nothanksthough 4 жыл бұрын
The first half of this video is really just explaining amsah teching in depth calling it something else
@alexanderbateman5581
@alexanderbateman5581 4 жыл бұрын
Lmao literally nothing
@SuperBugCatcher
@SuperBugCatcher 4 жыл бұрын
Hax found the melee fountain of youth...
@mcfam8657
@mcfam8657 4 жыл бұрын
Hax$ is one of the biggest ssbm nerds and it's awesome
@ln8496
@ln8496 4 жыл бұрын
Cant wait to do this with sheik needles
@NarokathCrimzonAE
@NarokathCrimzonAE 4 жыл бұрын
That was insane to see Falcon survive at 999%
@rguez2332
@rguez2332 4 жыл бұрын
Is there a list of tumble %s of each character??? Where can i get it?
@magicredrock
@magicredrock 4 жыл бұрын
Quick question: Say you are down smashing a sheik after she recovers on stage and she hits tdi, tech rolls, and starts performing spotdodges to root herself/ cancel the momentum. While she is spot dodging, can you just put out a lingering hitbox over her vulnerability at the end of her 2nd spotdodge and kill her no matter what because she already pressed L to spotdodge previously? I could have something wrong here but wouldnt it be more optimal to aim for the 1 frame taunt input because then you get 100 frames of being rooted and then only have to try to tech the opponent's move on reaction?
@blueblah18
@blueblah18 4 жыл бұрын
ok but at what percents can we TDI floor hug Specifically Zain's Roy's D-tilt?
@gabbewettby3888
@gabbewettby3888 4 жыл бұрын
What's the frame window to input a tech? When should I do it?
@srk99x
@srk99x 4 жыл бұрын
During tech roll towards ledge, couldn't you just mash jab to buffer jab before you fly off stage?
@melee9183
@melee9183 4 жыл бұрын
Mango wasn't wrong. There is still some melee to be played.
@JoeyKane7
@JoeyKane7 4 жыл бұрын
Is a TDI floor hug the same thing as an AMSA tech?
@chikin8895
@chikin8895 4 жыл бұрын
I fall sleep to this
@ThePharphis
@ThePharphis 4 жыл бұрын
Is it going to be momentum cancelling like pika's upB?
@Zx14rrrrrrrrrrr
@Zx14rrrrrrrrrrr 4 жыл бұрын
There's still a lot of Melee left to play.
@nel2556
@nel2556 4 жыл бұрын
Who knew optimal play might include spotdodging 8 times lol
@goingonlylogical
@goingonlylogical 4 жыл бұрын
I feel like this is just going into the technical background for the Amsah tech...
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