I have a 1997 ST 1100... Just rebuilt the Carburetors, Fork Seals , ALL FLUIDS , Tires Wind screen and Seat... This bike absolutely amazes me everytime I sit on it a Go... What a pleasure to own and ride.. A true MILE EATER and is the best bike ever!
@ThePkeys4 жыл бұрын
when i watched these guys i realised my life must be really good, sometimes i smile
@boycejeffery84437 жыл бұрын
nice to see the judges are so enthused about the bikes!!
@kevmurphy71567 жыл бұрын
I knew there was a good reason that I bought a Honda ST1100 ... my '98 model is now almost 20 years old, has just over 180,000 km on the clock, has extensively toured Australia, and has never suffered a mechanical failure.
@EvLoutonian5 жыл бұрын
That's pretty awesome! I'm just picking up an earlier ST1100... Any specific things I should check, as it's been sitting for i think the best part of the past few years, unfortunately.. - clutch fluids? - carbs?
@osmanlitorunu19907 жыл бұрын
10. Moto Guzzi California 1100 9. Triumph Trophy 1200 8. Honda Deauville 650 7. Yamaha FJR1300 6. Honda Goldwing 1800 5. Triumph Sprint ST1000 4. Harley Davidson Road King 1450 3. BMW K1200LT 2. BMW R1150RT 1. Honda Pan European 1100 & 1300 You´re welcome :*
@apexxxx10 Жыл бұрын
Am I welcome? Johnny BikeSanooK! Straight from Tropical THAILAND 🇹🇭 NOT TAIWAN!
@jeffamrine58695 жыл бұрын
I can't believe the Concours was not listed - an amazing all around bike for touring or most anything else.
@toddjacobs56603 жыл бұрын
I was going to say the same thing, im on my 2 nd Conny 14 they are awsome bikes
@WILLNEVERCONFORM3 жыл бұрын
Completely agree
@SamP0rterBridges2 жыл бұрын
What year did this air? It might have been before the redesign, while they were still using 80s tech.
@SamP0rterBridges2 жыл бұрын
Just saw it aired in 03. So my original theory is likely correct.
@larryjordan95028 жыл бұрын
I own a 2012 Honda GoldWing and love every mile on it. It came down to the GoldWing or the BMW K1200LT. You can't go wrong with either for long distance riding. The Honda has a much lower cost of ownership, though.
@marcogennaro43035 жыл бұрын
I love my Honda st1100 paneuropean , had mine for already 10 years and is by far the best bike i ever had¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
@cattleNhay5 жыл бұрын
Best sport touring I ever had was a Hayabusa.. Different handlebars and rode comfortably for 10-12 hours, 10-15 alp passes in a day! At 10'000feet still had nice power to throttle through the twisties!
@katmax49834 жыл бұрын
The UK Police actually junked the Pan European for the Yamaha FJR1300 because of high speed stability issues. Just saying.
@leesmith6783 Жыл бұрын
Exactly right a officer had a high speed wobble and come off and was killed this is why they binned it.
@The_Touring_Jedi Жыл бұрын
It was a wobble on ST1300 which can be sorted out. This is ST1100 in the video...one of the best Touring even today.
@flakolik4 жыл бұрын
the speaker: its a great bike, with good handling and at a reasonable price lets se what our pannel has to say. pannel: its a piece of shit!
@sokodad2 жыл бұрын
Lol
@jennydiazvigneault55487 жыл бұрын
This is a TOURING review but the Triumph ST sport tourer came in ahead of the worlds number one tourer - the Goldwing. I am really starting to wonder about these "experts".
@pauldavison71056 жыл бұрын
It's opinion. The Goldwing may be a good seller but in my opinion its too big. The video contradicts you as it states the Pan is top tourer year in year out. The Goldwing is An armchair on wheels which is great for touring but too big for anything else.
@leftvassis5 жыл бұрын
if you live in america maybe yes,but in other continents where you ll also have to maneuver in narrow streets it handles like a boat and you cant have that,which is a pretty big reason as to why sport tourers are preferred
@majowa834 жыл бұрын
They are Brits. They will be biased towards Triumph. Annoying.
@MuscleBandit2 жыл бұрын
@@majowa83 Racist! My white privilege is offended.
@scottjones54553 жыл бұрын
I think this review sold me on the Honda ST1100. Have had my 92' for a year now and love every mile. Did Colorado last fall and am looking forward to returning there in the spring.
@peterc91537 жыл бұрын
I had a Honda Deauville 700, from new, from 2009 - 2014. I strongly disagree that it is a dull bike. I loved it and I received many admiring comments and questions about it from people in car parks etc. I eventually downsized to a Honda CBR 250 R for reasons of cost and commuting practicality.
@badkarma21374 жыл бұрын
Well said, this bike is SO underrated, it's common sense when you want to ride safe and long at low cost !
@FishOnTwoWheels8 жыл бұрын
Did you notice how he kept describing things about the latest ST1300 Pan European but only showing the ST1100 Pan whilst talking lol. Just as well Honda Man got this award when he did as the 1300 has come NOWHERE near the sales success and popularity of the 1100 for Honda!
@matfejpatrusin45505 жыл бұрын
Yeah it was pretty cringy
@75Azbest6 жыл бұрын
For me: 1. ST 1100/1300 2. FJR 1300 3. Goldwing 4. BMW RT 1200 5. BMW RT 1150 ...and where is Kawasaki GTR 1400??? Funny experts haha
@wightwalker24536 жыл бұрын
Gtr1400 wasn't around when this was filmed
@rideaway36317 жыл бұрын
I love my Honda Dullville !
@davidcrook27717 жыл бұрын
Anyone who has toured seriously knows the Goldwing is king of the road. The BMW LT is really a distant second when you consider reliability and comfort. I doubt any of the bikes mentioned will do a couple hundred thousand trouble free miles like any Goldwing will. I know of one rider that logged more than 500,000 miles on his GL1800 and it was still running fine when the owner traded it in on a new Goldwing!
@leftvassis5 жыл бұрын
anywhere other than america sport tourers are preferred so the goldwing is king of american touring not in general
@jonathandrake66137 жыл бұрын
Pan is definitely No1 even though I have not actually owned one. I have ridden a few. A 2000 reg 750 four is is close as I got from that stable and that was my favourite owned ride out of the nearly 20 I've had. I was about to buy a deauville but at the last minute drew the same conclusion as your commentary team.
@rebelpride16537 жыл бұрын
The bald guy needed to be hugged more as a child
@joandodds76264 жыл бұрын
William Strickland Bald guy must like......scooters or cars, cause he doesn’t like....anything?
@cooleyballs14 жыл бұрын
🤣🤣🤣
@daveclemens31343 жыл бұрын
I use to do 450 miles a day comfortably and the new fjr1300 has 6 speeds active suspension and all led corner seeing headlights with heated grips and cruise control standard...at 18,000 it's a absolute deal of a price compared to any bike on or off this list
@nickelliot36795 жыл бұрын
I owned the K1200LT and it was one of my least favorite bikes in 40 years and dozens of motorcycles owned. The tiller-like handlebars make for comfortable touring at speed, but low speed handling is like driving a front-heavy wheelbarrow. It's the only bike I had to struggle to not dump, and I'm six feet tall. If you don't mind all that, they are are very cheap on the used market.
@james-le2rs Жыл бұрын
I have one also and you are exactly right but I forced myself to keep riding it because it makes every other motorcycle a cinch I've dumped it twice both times standing still trying to put it on the side stand it rolled forward that was all it took and it was on its side I did manage to get it up both times broke my back though
@Chris-gi9ch3 жыл бұрын
My opinion for #1 is split between the 1150RT, and the FJR1300. The FJR would obviously be cheaper to maintain.
@therussianbiker87886 жыл бұрын
Number One to me is Honda ST1300. This is my bike and I love it.
@marcogennaro43035 жыл бұрын
mine is a 1100 ¡¡¡¡¡¡¡¡
@moshealex3 жыл бұрын
Agree, that Honda ST1300 is the best bike ever. 👍👍👍
@capt.danieldavidson62916 жыл бұрын
In the late 1970's I rode a Honda Gold Wing Interstate, and it was as comfortable as a bike could possibly be. Last year I picked up a BMW R1150RT and it is anything but. Although it is a great bike with many redeeming qualities, comfort is not one of them. I ride 95% of the time on Highways in British Columbia, Canada, and I always feel that a second Foot Rest, for stretching my legs while Touring, would solve everything, but I guess they must have been concentrating on other things when they designed their "Touring" R1150RT?
@wordreet8 жыл бұрын
I just can't imagine how that Harley even got on this list. Just because it looks cool, which I agree with because I like retro stuff, and has reasonable low speed handling? But it's a sack of shit as far as anything else goes.
@buci5558 жыл бұрын
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@popeye54327 жыл бұрын
Agree. Though it is retro, and good on long rides, I consider just about every Harley to be a ripoff. The V-Rod is nice, but I don't consider it a Harley-Davidson; and even H-D isn't continuing anywhere near it.
@tangledline5 жыл бұрын
Touring. I have A sport bike, A Dual Purpose bike, A muscle bike and a 2013 Harley Road King. It's like a freaking couch on wheels. If I wanted anything else...that is why I have other bikes.
@kaiserswaghelmii93613 жыл бұрын
I was sat there not knowing if I was gonna see the PAN ST1100 or not.... And when at the number 3 spot he said "the first of 2 BMW's" I started to get worried! I was wrong to worry. That's my girl! Beautiful bikes!
@TheHypnotstCollector3 жыл бұрын
Bought a 2002 BMW K1200LT, 37,000 miles, clean, dealer serviced. $2500!! About 1/4 of a HD or Goldwing. But the Weight! But Smooth as silk. weighs 100 lbs more than a HD or Goldwing!
@plumjam5 жыл бұрын
All these blokes look like they're being treated for depression.
@matfejpatrusin45505 жыл бұрын
I read this at the beginning and I'm giggling through the video now :D So true :D
@cooleyballs14 жыл бұрын
Yessssss..🤣🤣🤣
@Giovanni19723 жыл бұрын
Thats why they ride; motorcycles are good anti-depressant effect/therapy, but it is addictive so when they are not riding they are prone to depression. hehe
@toddjacobs56603 жыл бұрын
The one needs a smack, the other one needs a hug, & the 3rd one needs a smack too 😂😂😂
@quonston3 жыл бұрын
They’re English.
@jjcooter5 жыл бұрын
Goldwing at 6 by far the best touring bike ever made hands down
@bb-ballistics17065 жыл бұрын
Having owned Goldwings and pan Europeans. I will say that in my opinion the pan is the better bike. Much easier to through around. Lighter, faster. More agile. The only I miss from my Goldwing is the built in intercom.
@slashnazis7 жыл бұрын
The Honda goldwing is the bar standard for cross country touring. It has all the amenities that you could ever want in a touring motorcycle. It's the best bike ive ever ridden. Now, for a Sunday cruise around town, the Harley is by far the best choice here. It's the head turner, chick digging, mean motorcycle that you want for your ego, but it's not much better than that though. Should have been goldwing at number 1, then the BMWs (k1200 then the other) then the pan euro, then the Yamaha.
@apexxxx10 Жыл бұрын
What’s the difference between Bar Standard and Gold Standard? Johnny born in Suomi-Finland. Resident in sunny tropical THAILAND kzfaq.info/get/bejne/e9emodtzuJmyY4k.html
@toddjacobs56603 жыл бұрын
The only 2 descent bikes on here were the Yamaha FJR, & Honda Goldwing, wheres the Kawasaki Concours14 ? Im on my 2nd Conny, they are excellent bikes
@damiandevaraj93582 жыл бұрын
Video production 2003 , maybe the concours or GTR 1400 still not out yet
@Google_Does_Evil_Now11 ай бұрын
9:06 Does he ride into the back of the skip lorry, stopped at the red lights?
@garystaudinger90344 жыл бұрын
I do agree with your #1 selection. Always liked ST just a touch big (and I’m >100kg) and uncomfortably hot the Pan European seems better sized how did they solve heating problems? ST , Beemer R and Concours prototypical actual “sports” tourers seldom seen here in N. America but favourite genre for lots of us and you confused me by including a great city bike and a few actually good full size touring bikes but the HD shown is not their touring model. The HD equivalent to Gold Wing would be a Road Glide or CVO. Good post but compare apples to apples not oranges.
@numbone29452 жыл бұрын
I've never seen such a discerning group of individuals. Wait, yes I have.
@thegolfingmusician63455 жыл бұрын
It's pretty clear this guy has no idea what a touring bike is. Triumph Sprint ST over a Goldwing?
@PabloVillaronga2 жыл бұрын
Hi all , i'm about to buy a FJR 1300 2004 , 100000km , Perfect Maintenance , new chain , Brake pads, is it a good bike to start touring around Europe? I will start riding again after 20 years in Bike , how can I compare to a BMW , Ducatti , Honda , etc , all seems excellent options . Suggestions .
@leesmith6783 Жыл бұрын
Can't beat a Fazer 1000 as a do it all bike. Handle bar risers and a set of straight bars on her and u got the best of all worlds
@007djrose6 жыл бұрын
Only problem with this video is it was made too early, before the Honda CTX1300 was launched. Problems with the CTX - Cowling fitting and side panniers not big enough for a helmet, other than that it is the most comfortable, manoeuvrable, low CoG, making it feel much lighter than it's 338kg kerb weight and it's Honda V4 engine is superb. Need a new version of this video, but I did enjoy watching it. Thanks very much
@Rayk764 жыл бұрын
For anyone criticising the presenters you do realise that particular show is many years old and provided many of us a much needed biking programme on TV and I'm dam glad I'd it, so give them a break...
@HumGuitar6 жыл бұрын
What is that cable on the right side of the front wheel on the Triumph? Looks like it would rub and eventually break after numerous left turns.
@toddjacobs56604 жыл бұрын
Kawy Concours 14 !!!!!!!!
@henryedwardsherry89566 жыл бұрын
Absolutely Amazing!
@seeingeyegod Жыл бұрын
Late to the party.. but I think it's amusing that this is a top 10 list but about the first three the reviewers are like "this absolutely sucks"
@shegocrazy6 жыл бұрын
Apart from the curious selection of bikes the production values and commentary is like a 1960's infommercial.
@elgar67433 жыл бұрын
100% on point on the #1 pick - Honda ST1300.
@respect9461 Жыл бұрын
Too much engine heat
@rondilliner94243 жыл бұрын
AFFIRMATION: My 2004 ST1300A (purchased pre-owned with
@slimdudeDJC4 жыл бұрын
Man, are UK dwellers honest!! No BS whatsoever, cut straight to the chase!!!
@felgercarb38033 жыл бұрын
Thats what i have said all my life. Honda got the best small, medium and big touring bikes. The small one is the 80's 500 Silverwing. The medium is the Deauville 700 and both the Pan's for the large tourers.
@jennydiazvigneault55487 жыл бұрын
They scored the Moto Guzzi low because they said it looks ugly. That says nothing. For touring I want to know if its reliable, comfortable, offers good weather protection, has a good and reliable dealer network, is affordable, has power to pass, has long range, and gets good mileage. Thats a pretty simple review and did not give much info. Very very subjective.
@Danol1236 жыл бұрын
Joseph Howard but it’s a cruiser though. Had literally nothing to do with Touring. If you want a Motoguzzi i suggest you go for their flying fortress. The Motoguzzi Flying Fortress is more touring than any of the bikes here except the Goldwing.
@Team-fabulous3 жыл бұрын
@@Danol123 what!!!!?? The California comes with top box and panniers... What more does a tourer need?!
@kkiwi543 жыл бұрын
@@Team-fabulous Wind/weather protection?
@steveclark21037 жыл бұрын
Ever heard of a Honda SilverWing? 2 cylinder 500cc traverse mounted v-twin,1981-1982 GL500 Interstate,Same Goldwing fairing,detachable suitcases and trunk just a smaller motor.55 mpg+
@paulbutler755 жыл бұрын
If you can ride you can ride if you can't you become a motorcycle reviewer! ! I've had a Dullvill for a while and I've been able to get my knee down and when I filter I leave power rangers behind
@jupiter221775 жыл бұрын
New subscriber. Finally, really honest opinions not afraid to call shit, shit.
@DB-qw6xq4 жыл бұрын
The Moto Guzzi California is a cruiser not a tourer! I have an FJR 1300AE, definitely needed a comfort seat though. Great performance both touring and twisting it around the Yorkshire Dales. The fuel doesn't seem to run out and I've done over 200 miles and still plenty of fuel left. Need better tyres on so I fitted Road 5s which are superb. Also had the tourer screen fitted which is great in the rain. This programme is comparing tourers with sport tourers and cruisers, no wonder the results are confused.
@p.istaker88625 жыл бұрын
What did I learn from this? Satisfying my must be considered first and foremost
@tonkool4736 Жыл бұрын
My mates and I rode Honda's ST1100 (I had one) and their 1300. Believe it or not...I find the 1100 better. Especially in it's roadholding near topspeed. Later I bought myself two Yamaha FJR 1300's. To my personal opinion: they were superior to the Honda's. I would give the Yamaha FJR1300 a 10 and the ST1100 a 9. In the blink of an eye these bikes would transport you effortlessly to southern-France.
@MegaSalainen6 жыл бұрын
Those boys know about bikes but they have never spent 8 000 miles on the road at one go. Moto Guzzi is reliable and comfortable.
@sza25627 жыл бұрын
Triumph before goldwing? Joke...
@STOP447.4 жыл бұрын
English rates
@waterhouse2353 жыл бұрын
Yes, anything before folding, if you've ever ridden in Britain, tiny roads, sharp corners, and no straight line boring shite!
@billpierce5743 жыл бұрын
I love my Triumph
@mickemmett68284 жыл бұрын
All three say the GoldWing is the best tourer by miles and then it gets rated at No6, how's that work then?
@bepriceless4 жыл бұрын
Because it's heavy as hell and handles like a van. It's fine when you're on the road going straight and don't have to stop, but bikes have to ride through town too.
@mickemmett68284 жыл бұрын
@@bepriceless The article is about touting, not commuting through towns. The handling is brilliant, lost count of the times I lost sports bikes on the twisties when I had mine.
@raygifford8723 жыл бұрын
I owned a wing and an FJR1300. FJR was by far my favorite bike. Sport bike handling, super bike power. Sure, the wing has comfort for miles but it’s too easy to drag the expensive bits. I rode the hell out of my FJR and never ever dragged anything more than my toes.
@007djrose7 жыл бұрын
I'd like to see this re-run since the Honda CTX1300 came onto the market.
@kasperkjrsgaard14472 жыл бұрын
My pick would be the Moto Guzzi California. It’s comfy and reliable.
@Tax2Me5 жыл бұрын
I agree with your #1 & 2. Can care less about the rest
@SR71BBFLYER5 жыл бұрын
For my money I’ll keep my FJR1300 over the others that beat it out here. If I’m sport touring (which is what I do) then the Goldwing too much tourer., the Sprint too much sport., the Harley? Forget about cornering., the K1200LT? another Goldwing.., the RT underpowered. The ST1300 has the goods but just a bit too bland and slightly underpowered. And the FJR looks much better especially when you take the bags off. I’d ride either of these bikes but I’d PREFER the FJR.
@Giovanni19723 жыл бұрын
"And the FJR looks much better especially when you take the bags off." Unless you have those bag/crash guards installed (pretty much a must for heavy bikes). I agree with you about the FJR. I love mine (2014 model).
@oeksnadr2 жыл бұрын
Why do you think r1150rt is under powered and what alse you can add about it? Thanks
@jimmythesaxman2 жыл бұрын
I agree I own a GL 1800 as well as a K 1200 LT. I just bought an 2004 FJR 1300 this week. Rode it home up the California coast from Oceanside to Venice. Wow. Instant love. It really does have it all. Comfort incredible speed and power precise handling. Love how easily removable the bags are and this bike only has 12,000 miles on it. You can’t go wrong with Yamaha. But as far as the big tourers go I much prefer the BMW K1200LT over the gold wing which feels like a couch on wheels. BMW heated grips seat ABS brakes handling overall comfort and performance weather protection are all superior to the Honda at least for me. I’m sure cost of Honda ownership is lower. For some that is not the bottom line. They are all great bikes
@fred_e2 жыл бұрын
it was kind of funny watching the Harley almost scrapping its belly
@fred_e2 жыл бұрын
especially as the narrator was calling it the king of the road
@robertmacdonald72162 жыл бұрын
I think you missed a big part of this review of your top 10 reliability if you included that none of the European bikes would have made it anywhere near number 8. Even Beamers would not get up there reliability and cost of service would have put them way back in the field.
@timmykrantz1683 жыл бұрын
The FJR rated below the Beemer with all the rear diff troubles. The tourer have to keep a spare rear with them. I have 87k on my feej. One fella in our group has 330k on his 2004.
@danfranklin19575 жыл бұрын
Why did they show a ST1100 for the number one spot when they were talking about the ST1300 the whole time? They showed a red one at the end. Lovely bike, i'm shopping around for one.
@The_Touring_Jedi Жыл бұрын
Because ST1100 had no issues and stability is better on higher speeds. ST1300 had some issues like wobble and heat issues. I had both but ST1100 wins the day even after so many years. One more thing to consider if going on tour through whole Europe...nobody would like to steal ST1100.😂ST1300 or new RT are pretty liked among thiefs.
@jpsholland7 жыл бұрын
Harley has that classic style where no other machine can come to. Bullshit, the truth is, Harley spend millions on rights, they even have rights on the sound. Harley survived because of the second world war, the Hells Angels and the 4 big Japanese brands who pulled Harley financially out of the shit more then once. The Japanse brands have more respect for Harley then Harley riders have for them. Harley rider have to bow for every Japanse bike on the road, their beloved brand is still on the road thanks to the Japanese. If you want a real American Dream on 2 wheels, buy an Indian. They where far superior to Harley. But also far more expensive. Before the Harley fanboys start ranting and hating: i don't hate Harley, but i see it as it is. No more, no less. But is do hate that myth making around this brand. A quality product does not need that, should not want that.
@matthewjones95654 жыл бұрын
For the life of me I can't figure out how the Goldwing isn't number one.
@nicholasthompson83514 жыл бұрын
I am guessing you have not driven in Europe where roads are twisty, sklnny and gas is not cheap.. After years of Wing use, I understand that the ST and BMW give you more of the athletic feel that European and I personal[y like. If you have wide open roads,.. which go on for ever, the Wing is your steed. I’d you have varying conditions, tighter turns, and enjoy the sport feel,. I think they nailed the review..
@matthewjones95654 жыл бұрын
@@nicholasthompson8351 I'm English so I drive/ride in Europe every day. Each to their own I suppose, but I much prefer the Goldwing. Personal preference I suppose.
@davidsage65755 жыл бұрын
Very old video. The pan European was dropped by all emergency services as it handles so bad the Police called it dangerous in a side wind. The FJR1300 is now used internationally by all emergency services with perhaps the exception of Germany where they take two wheels off the car and still call it a BMW
@Giovanni19723 жыл бұрын
Germany recently had placed their order for FJR's as well. :) I own a 2014 FJR and love it. I'm scared of the power though, and have only started to test it out. Feels like being on a fighter jet, and very smooth.
@mk3supraman8 жыл бұрын
I like the list, I don't agree with all the placements, but the "experts" are idiots, should have picked a better group, they come off as way toooo bias
@richardrichard54097 жыл бұрын
No maxi scooters... Burgervan, Lead Wing, 850 'prilia....if you want touring comfort n convenience, can't be beat.
@PumpKing963 жыл бұрын
Because they are no motorcycles.
@fabieneldridge54638 жыл бұрын
I have a Road King I'm selling as I sick of the Dealership attitude of over charging and that I'm rich an don't care mentality. They charged me for fixing the rear tire Valve that they forgot to change when they changed it. $100.00 to put a new one in an left stranded out of town for an in cost 1 60 . 00 . I've never been on the road and not been helped out on the road. By Harley Davidson hello Honda or BMW ....it me sick Holy attitude. . Harley Davidson dealerships lost me not the bike I will advise never by one.The bike is beautiful and with dual exhaust it sound great. But a motorcycle is only as good as the service by the Dealership so don't walk Run away or carry a motorcycle shop with you and Rob a couple of banks to support a G READY salesman !!!!!!-'-----------Once twice gone ! I've owned lots of motorcycles and have only been riding 50 years, what do I know.
@popeye54327 жыл бұрын
Simple solution. Don't deal with dealers. Deal with riders. A motorcycle is only as good as the one who owns it. No one needs a new Harley. They made a brief mistake with the Evolution engine, quickly realized their error, and went back to the standard H(undreds)-D(ollars) corporate mindset.
@popeye54327 жыл бұрын
They got it right with the Honda Pan European. Next would be the other Honda, the Goldwing, or either LT or RT BMW for number 2. I like Moto Guzzi, just not that one.
@jamesmcfarland26487 жыл бұрын
Where the hell is the Concours 14?
@tomnorris17343 жыл бұрын
Why is buying a new bike so hard? And worse, its made harder by these 'experts' When I was in my 20's I had a gsx1400. Now I'm 30 and have arthritic knees and a daughter so I want a sporty sports tourer. I thought I wanted a triumph sprint, now I think I should just buy some new slippers and become depressed so I can be an 'expert'
@garystaudinger90344 жыл бұрын
What’s with the cheap shot at Jersey? Seems odd coming from a chap who comes from another little island. Saw the article about sports tourers as well. Here they’d be considered detuned sports bikes your touring bikes would be considered sport tourers
@Danol1236 жыл бұрын
Let’s take a moments silence for those dumb enough to pick a BMW or Triumph over Honda or Yamaha. The Harley is fair enough, but today it’s quite obvious that the best tourer currently is the Indian Roadmaster Elite, wich is basically a Goldwing with better performance than any other Touring, Cruiser, Muscle, and even Street bikes or naked bikes. Also it looks so classic yet so modern. And that one tops the Goldwing. And it’s funny how they only had 4 actuall touring bikes. Both Hondas and both BMWs wich nobody likes.
@bempey6 жыл бұрын
Maybe Indian isn't sold in England? Or wasn't out when this video was made, back in 2013?
@Brough11113 жыл бұрын
The BMW's have left riders broke down with rear drive problems, the ST1300 weaves in cross wind,, BMW is expensive to maintain, the Harley's are up to 107 c,i. And will have increased performance, the best bike for touring two up is the Goldwing,
@bempey6 жыл бұрын
I think the biggest problem with this ranking is the title. It should be "sport tourers" because they ranked them based on performance and touring. After EACH GUY saying that the Gold Wing is the number one touring bike, they don't even rank it in the top 5! ??? Again, change the title to include "sport-bike aspirations" and then the ranking makes more sense. BTW: My BMW riding friends would all take a high-mileage boxer over the K-series for reliability and low-cost of ownership. BMW-R in the top 3 is not a surprise. BMW-K in the top-5 is a surprise. Just my 2 cents.
@victorkenny15034 жыл бұрын
My injectors is not getting far I have a k 1200 RS 2000 model BMW you can squirt gas in the carburetors excuse me in the throttle body and it will crank and run and do that fuel Runs Out there's fuel all the way to the injectors but they're not pulsating to give the engine fuel can you help me out with this problem I appreciate it my name is Victor I live in Bossier Louisiana
@flufanga4 жыл бұрын
Higghly entertaining. Huge error, to not include THE definitive sport-tourer, Kawasaki Concours.
@pjclark86243 жыл бұрын
Three print media Journo's, clearly with the power to see their own future demise. They excelled in the British way of undermining their employment.
@jpsholland7 жыл бұрын
The Pan at number one? The Dutch police was happy to get rid of them and turn back to BMW. The reasons: poor handeling, poor performance when cold, vibrations and bad handling in speeds above 180 km, less reliable and higher maintenance cost compare to the BMW K-1100, K-1200 and R-1150. But the Pan is a lot cheaper to buy. A other thing for the police is that BMW makes "p" versions of their bikes. The p stands for Polizei, german for police. This bike have more power and more powerfull electrics and are easy to build in your police equipment, or BMW does that for you. The Pan European is not a police bike so had to adapted for this duty which bring extra costs which maken him still cheaper to buy then the BMW, but not when you calculate the maintenance cost in the average 4 years of police service. At the end it turn out BMW was cheaper, more reliable and better fitted for the job as police motorcycle.
@mikebreen28907 жыл бұрын
P version bikes don't have more power because they don't need more power. Electrics are upgraded though.
@billstreb10444 жыл бұрын
BMW being cheaper to maintain than a Honda? That contradicts everything I have ever heard, including testimony from my BMW bike owning friends. The guy I bought my ST 1300 from walked into a BMW dealership with cash in hand to buy a 1200LT. After hearing what routine maintenance would cost, he walked out, and bought the ST 1300 and never had any issues. Regarding handling issues? I have been riding motorcycles for 50 years. I have had my 1300 way faster than is ever needed and it is rock solid. Speedo accuracy is horrible though. I will give you that.
@scb04215 жыл бұрын
How did harley even make this list?? They have never made a motorcycle that was dependable enough to go around the block let alone cross country.
@kenmclennan3415 жыл бұрын
Would have been useful to know the criteria by which each bike was judged. Were the percentages a measure of how well each met the criteria, or was it just a number pluck and a journo's opinion?
@StevelKlatt5 жыл бұрын
Connie??
@cavscout624 жыл бұрын
I’ve been riding for 50 years and have ridden every type of bike from every country available and there are 3 bikes I’ll ride, 1. Harley-Davidson Electra Glide Standard. For long distance across country on mostly interstate and through small town America. I’ve still not found a more comfortable bike for my 29 years in the Military, arthritic bones. It has that big old 45 degree V-Twin that just feels like perpetual motion like nothing else. I tried a Gold Wing and it just seemed like a sewing machine on wheels to me, not a dis on anyone’s preference. 2. Yamaha FJR1300. Wanna go 300-500 miles at high rates of speed in comfort with cargo? This is the bike for me to do that on. 3. Yamaha Super Tenere. Long distance with a touch of off road or fire roads with cargo? This is the bike to do that in relative comfort for me.
@TheRealMarxz2 жыл бұрын
2003 but looking more like "Young Ones" era production values - Deauville stylish and the Cali ugly.... they must be putting lead in the water in the UK.... And even back then 2003 I would have put the FJR at 1st, St1300 2nd, St1100 3rd, Goldwing 4th (owned all but the wing still own the st1300) but here in Australia touring generally starts at 500km a day so there's a regional bias to my choices
@PanRider9397 жыл бұрын
Why when quoting ST1300 spec show the ST1100?
@micaKTM12907 жыл бұрын
Because the ST1300 was a new model when this was made, probably didn't have any video of it.
@matfejpatrusin45505 жыл бұрын
When I see a Deauville the expression "erectile disfunction" comes into my mind.
@Mybwain4 жыл бұрын
Ironically with ed, there's usually no coming anywhere
@pdstm6 жыл бұрын
A Harley on a list of bikes that are supposed to take you around the world with speed, comfort and reliability. Hahahahahahah....
@alternativeperception69495 жыл бұрын
Two wheeled tractors
@williamwatkins25384 жыл бұрын
Coming from someone who’s never owned a harley
@ababbit74617 жыл бұрын
Too many rear main seal and clutch slave cylinder failures on the K1200LT along with drive line failures for it to be rated as well as it was rated. Goldwing has none of those problems. Sorry, Brits, you don't know your "Tourers" when you put in a 650cc V-Twin as a tourer. Harley Electra Glide?? Road King made it, but now the Electra Glide? Sheeezzz. How about Victory Vision? Tourers are big bikes not sport bikes with a couple of bags on them.... Kawasaki Concours 14???? sheeezz.
@stevesstuff5527 жыл бұрын
A 650 Deuville can tour as well as any larger bike. I know a guy who tours across much of Europe (EG. over to Romania from England, a mere 1,600 miles each way according to Google, though he tends to take more circuitous routes) on one quite happily. Is it comfortable? Yes. Does it have enough luggage capacity? Yes. is it economical? Yes. Can he cover over 200 miles on a tank of fuel? Yes. Is it reliable? Yes. Can it cruise at, or above legal speed limits (some parts of Germany excepted)? Yes. What's missing from that checklist? Looks? Sheer bulk? I've ridden a Goldwing and, to be honest, really, really don't see the attraction, the suspension bottomed out on a bumpy right hand bend when ridden in a slightly spirited way, two up, with empty luggage. Maybe the suspension needed adjusting but not a problem I've faced on any other bike.
@ababbit74617 жыл бұрын
Steve, I am not sure, but I think the Deuville of Europe is the NC700 here in the USA. I have been looking at those bikes lately. Kind of like the old Pacific Coast (PC800) that Honda use to produce. Good points about the bike. We, here in America, seem to want HUGE tours and look at a 650cc as an "in town" rider bike. I did put some progressive front and rear suspension on my Goldwing 1500 and it handled like a "bird on a wire" around corners. Maybe the suspension on that Goldwing was bad? Anyway, thanks for setting me straight on "size doesn't matter" as the woman say (are they lying? ha,ha).... Nice bike, that Deuville...
@stefanschafer96607 жыл бұрын
Moppeds aus den 80er und 90er Jahren!? Wo bleiben die moderneren Fahrzeuge??? K1600GT R1200RT LC??
@alistairshaw32065 жыл бұрын
My old faithful FJ 1200 does the job, cheap, comfortable, and reasonably quick. Far more fun than the Deauville!
@chrislongstaff18635 жыл бұрын
Learned nothing about the bikes and more about the personal taste of the testers. And none of them seemed to be keen on touring bikes
@eroom20874 жыл бұрын
Honda 💯
@randypullman11554 жыл бұрын
You panel is tripping balls. Not even one Kawasaki or Suzuki?
@Gunnypauly737 жыл бұрын
I can't see how the Kawasaki Concours 14 didn't even make it on the list....
@vincentbowyer86556 жыл бұрын
Probably because they had to give the other bikes half a chance!
@looneyirish0076 жыл бұрын
its was filmed in 2002, unless they invented fucking time travel you dope
@robertcameronjones7 жыл бұрын
The ranking had almost nothing to do with the commentary.