Topographic Surveying with iPhone 13 Pro LiDAR

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0:00 Intro
0:06 Scanning the Front Yard
1:16 Scanning the Back Yard
2:59 Scanning around the House
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6:35 Feature Extraction on AutoCAD Civil 3D
7:22 Comparing data to Surveying Total Station
About Professor Rami Tamimi:
Rami Tamimi is an American doctorate student at The Ohio State University working towards his Doctor of Philosophy in Geodetic Engineering. With over 8 years of experience in the Land Development Industry, his experience revolves around traditional field surveying, civil design work using AutoCAD Civil 3D, and geospatial technology including LiDAR, SONOR, and Photogrammetric data acquisition and processing with the use of Unmanned Aircraft Systems or Drones. He is also a University Professor and creates instructional video content on KZfaq.
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@lrledesma 2 жыл бұрын

Loved the video! As a GIS person with the 13 pro I was excited to get a general model of my yard using LiDAR. Great to hear from a surveying prospective

@CreateHubTips Жыл бұрын

It is really awesome to see this type of video. I still remember the forums back in 2020 full a surveyors excited and asking if it will be possible to measure accurate and make workflows using just your iPhone’s lidar. The answer was yes and obviously it is the same proven workflow we had for years with conventional equipment. I really hope we get to the point where surveying equipment will be much more accesible ($$$).

@antons.7632 2 жыл бұрын

The fact that you give out that Information for free is just amazing. Thank you!

@chasstan 2 жыл бұрын

Mind blown. How cool is this. Thanks Rami for putting this together

@newseptic7206 Жыл бұрын

Awesome video Rami, you are seeking answers for questions a lot of people have!

@natwan32 2 жыл бұрын

Absolutely amazing what technology can do. Will be interesting to see how surveying evolves over the next decade. Really neat video!

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

You and me both! Thanks for the kind words.

@robertlee7332 2 жыл бұрын

You would make a great LS. I enjoyed watching this video. Thank you and happy 2022!

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

I really appreciate that. Soon, very soon!

@IsaacHernandez-rd2uq 2 жыл бұрын

Fantastic content👏🏽👏🏽👏🏽

@jacktoddy9783 2 жыл бұрын

Many thanks - a very informative and useful video.

@monatamimi8125 2 жыл бұрын

Great job Rami 👍

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Thanks 😀

@madmanyoni 2 жыл бұрын

This is awesome, Rami. Curious if any of your work/experimentation with the iPhone LiDAR sensor has made its way into your academic research?

@daygeckoarthawaii1360 6 ай бұрын

It's amazing this tech is so readily available. I feel bad for not buying an iPad with LiDAR when they first came out!

@crossfire73 8 ай бұрын

Excelente aporte.

@rebeccat7912 2 жыл бұрын

Go off, Rami 😩👏🏻

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you!

@georgebrown7432 2 жыл бұрын

Very nice About the GCPs, we've now added support for the viDoc RTK, it's a much cheaper solution to existing devices, and you can measure GCPs in the app. Not only that, we also use it during capture to get much better initial results

@RoqueMatusIII 8 ай бұрын

accuracy to what level is it to cms?

@robduran Жыл бұрын

BRO! Wow, nothing for the average Joe\Jane! Lol. It was fun to watch, you're content was fire!

@RazielitoBeagle Жыл бұрын

Excelente!!

@georgiostriantafyllou8556 2 жыл бұрын

Hello Rami, pretty cool job you did there. One question..which app are you using for capturing the point cloud?

@raanobrega Жыл бұрын

Rami, thanks for sharing your videos, they are amazing. I wonder if the sensor is able for mapping topographic surfaces in shallow water (1-2 feet for example) from above the surface, of course. Have you tested it already?

@hudsonchalmers6504 2 жыл бұрын

Love Your Stuff Rami. I have a 13 Max with Catch, just not getting it right. Can you do a settings and how to export video,

@SajidAli-le1nu 2 жыл бұрын

Very informative. Which scanning application have u used for scanning?

@geomondego 2 жыл бұрын

Rami, thanks for your video. What app do you use to make the photos?

@jabaristevens388 2 жыл бұрын

hey Rami, i have a question. How accurate is the gnss app and rtk rover integrated as one compared to a normal base station and rover set up? I saw in your video you use the gnss app and rtk rover to collect ground control points, but i always wondered how precise is that set up, is it similar to the leica gs18I tilt compensation rtk rover?

@rubencaceres5055 Жыл бұрын

Can I do an accurate merge of the scanning projects into one with out GCP? Just with the iphone and perhaps using a DJI gimbal? Great content mate! Greetings from Paraguay!!

@mutasimhanafi7071 2 жыл бұрын

Great 👍

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Thank you! Cheers!

@Sheepgotoheaven_Goatsgotohell 2 жыл бұрын

I love this video, I am just curious if any other phone can be used like this. I have been a fan of Samsung always, the RTK surveys we do seem to go a lot smoother whenever I am running a hotspot off of my Samsung vs my coworkers Iphone. I am due for an upgrade and would love to go for the note 10 or the s20 plus because they may have similar 3d modeling abilities. Is an attempt at a Topographic survey like this only possible with an iphone or would one of the android models be capable of this as well?

@phearlesspharaoh3697 2 жыл бұрын

Awesome video. This is great information... my application would be for metal detecting if like regular Lidar it could spot areas that used to have buildings on them. I'd also like to get a new drone that has this built in.

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Great suggestion!

@dchall8 2 жыл бұрын

At 6:44 when you talk about making layers, is the iPhone good enough to distinguish between ground and ground cover? If I could create a micro elevation of the soil under my lawn and garden that would be very helpful for fixing a drainage problem. I'm thinking of resolution to 1/4-inch. Would more passes with the iPhone give better resolution. Criss-cross patterns? Spiral patterns?

@audiepineda2878 Жыл бұрын

Cool. May I know what app were you using to scan to produce the point cloud?

@bilalista 5 ай бұрын

What is the name of the app?

@eng.wandeson Жыл бұрын

Very good! How the apple meter acurate?

@pittstreet7572 2 жыл бұрын

Honestly even having the scans would help tremendously with drafting surveys done in the field.

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Yes, this data as a supplement would be great!

@truthseeker9102 Жыл бұрын

This music makes me want to start skating

@vasilisarg3618 Жыл бұрын

Hello Rami! Did you check the 14 PRO? Is there an upgrade to the Lidar Scanner? Could the new gyroscope improve the Lidar accuracy?

@emyers2012 2 жыл бұрын

What is the app you are using on the iPhone? I have android, but this ability is intriguing. I am the GPS machine control model builder and topo guy at my company and if I could get stock pile quantities with an iPhone over physically taking every shot with gps, this could be beneficial.

@Elfin4 2 жыл бұрын

Wonder if the accuracy could be increased if using a DJI iPhone gimbal to stabilise the iPhone better when scanning?

@howtodothings1402 9 ай бұрын

Hi sir hope you’re doing great !! I just want to know, that is there any course which is related to the use of lidar technology in building construction? On Coursera or on any other platform, or you can teach us like surveying, levelling, etc. Of roads and building by using iPhone 15 pro. That would be very helpful sir. Thanks for giving me your precious time!!

@DaveIngle1 6 ай бұрын

You have some pretty cool videos. Wondering how a noob like me can use some of what you show to practical use. I'm looking to buy some land and many of the plots are not level. I don't want to replace having a proper survey but might want to eliminate some properties from my search. So, how can I use the lidar of my iPhone to let me know the elevations I may have across different areas of my property? Definitely not buying AutoCad.

@irmansyahirmans6869 2 жыл бұрын

Hai rami, can you make a tutorial to make a corridor in Autocad civil 3D used photogrametry/drone data? Thank you!

@terryterry1655 Жыл бұрын

can u mount on drone to plot map of proposed A to B robotaxi? then mount back to robotaxi for further naviation autonomously using mapped data?

@samuelbean7613 Жыл бұрын

HYD Spindle is movable, use a bonnet bolt on the HYD. then call out which bolt is used for the benchmark! Just a tip. I sometimes use a chisel to make an XCUT in the bonnet bolt, but DPW is not a fan of this.

@mohammadtalib1067 Жыл бұрын

Hi Rami , could you share with us the app. that used in iphone for scanning?

@abdulrahmansaad4926 2 жыл бұрын

brother you must put more option of payment methods in your survey shirt website such as VISA I could not purses items from Saudi Arabia!

@fatri66 2 жыл бұрын

Hi, thanks for the practical examples. Always interesting. Can you tell me what APP you used for scanning?

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

of course no problem. Pix4dCatch

@cruzadomuerto 2 жыл бұрын

Rami greetings from Peru, I would like to know if you know if the lidar of the iphon was tested in a closed environment such as a salon to know if it also registers it. Thank you

@civilengineeringonlightboa1759 8 ай бұрын

Rami ur videos are excellent . can u make more videos by using iphone 15 pro max in the field of civil engineering field problems

@robertallencad1 2 жыл бұрын

I'm currently looking for a Samsung version with lidar we use a C10 and ap40 at work

@CramerGallimore 2 жыл бұрын

Is it legal for a person who is not a licensed surveyor to provide data to a surveyor? I'm in NC, which has statutes on the subject if that makes any difference. Your content is great at any rate.

@waltersurlobatistajunior6515 Жыл бұрын

Hi Tamini. wich do you prefer? Iphone or Ipad, when we need better precision in industrial work? which scanner device to attach to Apple do you recommend? can you help me with a good device for this that does not cost so much

@alexbundalo1926 2 жыл бұрын

Rami, can i put 3d model from lidar on iphone, on google earth pro to saw some objects

@onurhanbozkr337 2 жыл бұрын

Very good technology. Im cartographer tecnician. I am very happy that the technology has advanced so much.With this technology, GPS and many other measuring devices can be history. It would be great if there is a feature to give coordinates to the area measured with the camera.

@gerryhowe1086 2 жыл бұрын

I'm a drone mapper, and you can do that with an RTK PPK drone such as the autel evo 2 pro RTK. It's pretty great at creating ground control points with quite remarkable accuracy and giving coordinates outside of the control points. Often within a few cm 🤙 pretty expensive setup and software though

@azm1azm1azm1 Жыл бұрын

Does the RTK unit on the Mavic 3 Enterprise make a difference with out a base station?

@doug3642 2 жыл бұрын

Fascinating. Thank you. How large are the point cloud files?

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

My pleasure, they are surprisingly very small, less than 100 MB each.

@nsicartm 2 жыл бұрын

What about Vidoc pix4d? The rtk antena to use with iPhone lidar? Do you know a cheaper vidoc antena or rtk phone solution? 3d scanner app just got updated with many new features!

@GooGoosDad Жыл бұрын

What software other than Civil 3D can you display the topo points?

@safffff1000 Жыл бұрын

How about doing wooded land, more useful example for developers

@zanepaxton7452 Жыл бұрын

Also, which software apps are you using to: 1. Capture the scans on the iPhone 13 Pro 2. Process the scanned point clouds on your computer? 3. Register the different scans into one big scan Thanks!

@orphius32 Жыл бұрын

Was wondering the same thing regarding the phone application.

@jsm817 Жыл бұрын

what's the name of the app that you used to scan on the iPhone??

@sacheta01 2 жыл бұрын

As for using it to gather information of the ground heights, totally plausible for a project right?

@joemac3003 2 жыл бұрын

What app are you using to scan?

@marteykelvin7454 6 ай бұрын

Would be nice if you make Acquired data available, just for practice purposes

@carliones1 2 жыл бұрын

Muito bom

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Obrigada

@waseemiftikhar2233 2 жыл бұрын

LiDAR WHICH AAP USED IN IPHONE

@emanmostafa6744 2 жыл бұрын

Do Companies in America need or require a survey Engineer ?

@0eyesopen065 2 жыл бұрын

Rami, great work, thank you! I am curious if you were to mount the phone to say a camera tripod and do the scans from fixed points. If it would improve the data. This would mean the data relied less on the IMU to keep track of all erratic movements. Thoughts?

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

So there is no IMU in the iPhone. We could introduce one coupled with an RTK Antenna.

@0eyesopen065 2 жыл бұрын

@@RamiTamimi is ppk a possibility with the Emlid?

@pointblankeloquence9578 2 жыл бұрын

What software are you using?

@nancywarwaruk5120 Жыл бұрын

What app were you using?

@Spamgrease Жыл бұрын

Which app did you use on iphone?

@yoannmistretta8904 Жыл бұрын

Bonjour, Quel logiciel avez vous utilisez sur l’iPhone?

@Adam-ui3ot 2 жыл бұрын

What app is that please?

@kelcyo 3 ай бұрын

Whats app in iPhone used?

@ubong120 2 жыл бұрын

what iphone app is useed

@sb2261 9 ай бұрын

Please test this moasure device

@akumaumakan7061 2 жыл бұрын

hey tamimi. can you make a video about the dji phantom 4 pro rtk drone connected to the cors station by the ppk method. then the photos from the drone already have global coordinates. do comparison correction if not tied to gcp

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Great idea. Expect this video in the Spring.

@fernandagutierrez9234 Жыл бұрын

who aplication you use?

@mr.x0380 Жыл бұрын

What is the name of the app used?!??

@RaGRoG904 Жыл бұрын

What is this application on your iphone?

@keithproduction Жыл бұрын

What app is this?

@mr.x0380 Жыл бұрын

Please explain the concept of least count in PHOTOGRAMMETRY !!! Does it exists or not?!????

@frasersmith4552 2 жыл бұрын

If you had more GCP, over lapping scans, would that increase the accuracy?

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Of course, in the future videos I am going to try increasing the accuracy of the project.

@ldalfredo 2 жыл бұрын

What is the application with which you use the mobile and the rtk gps. congratulations for the videos

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

For the scanning I used Pix4dCatch, and for the GNSS I used Emlid Reachview 3

@joaquinlopez5287 2 жыл бұрын

@@RamiTamimi hi! I can’t work with those apps. Could you please show us how to.

@hudsonchalmers6504 2 жыл бұрын

Video of with Catch

@MRTut 2 жыл бұрын

can this method be used for geodetic surveying via iPhone? Does it provide a cloud of points that can be imported into civilian 3d and georeferenced?

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Yes it does, the hardware and software still needs improving but the methodology is there.

@paulbota6944 Жыл бұрын

name of the application?

@davidkierzkowski Жыл бұрын

Looks like my neighborhood in Sterling Heights lol

@surfinghouston 2 жыл бұрын

What iPhone model and software are you using. Does the software have you hold the shutter open or take snapshots?

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

iPhone 13 Pro, but you can use any iPhone with a LiDAR Sensor. I used the Pix4Dcatch app. And no, you simply hit the shutter button once and it begins collecting data.

@chifaile9891 2 жыл бұрын

@@RamiTamimi Sir, May I ask are there any skills of holding the iPhone to get better result?

@jessegraham21 2 жыл бұрын

what app are you using to generate the point cloud within the iphone?

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Pix4Dcatch

@OnlineToBrain 2 жыл бұрын

Hey @Rami Tamimi I have a question for you... Using the iPhone LiDAR can we measure the volume of a big boulder??? If we can please make video about it please.

@Lidarx3 Жыл бұрын

There are apps that will calculate stockpile volumes

@Lidarx3 Жыл бұрын

lidar x3

@brianontheair 2 жыл бұрын

What app were you using for the scans?

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Pix4dCatch

@justinadams5446 2 жыл бұрын

Rami: You can make a topo survey with just an iphone! Also Rami: uses a GNSS receiver for control points😂 I love this channel. I'm learning so much. Please do tons more videos. I actually just switched to the iphone and bought the dji om 5. Totally revamping how my company does site investigation. Now I just need to get a GNSS receiver.

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Hahaha contradiction is my main skill set 🤥😅

@faybul6456 2 жыл бұрын

my first question is which is the best total station or iphone lidar my sec question is is only iphone 13 has this lidar. thanks

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

Total Station is better of course, it is a professional piece of equipment. The iPhone 12 Pro also has a LiDAR Sensor

@greghall3150 2 жыл бұрын

Why don't you tape the phone to your drone and do a gride scan

@zanepaxton7452 Жыл бұрын

Thanks for the video. I’m an architect and I use Revit 3D software for my design work. I’ve done about ten projects using a (expensive) Faro scanner and can import the point cloud using Autodesk’s Recap software. How can the iPhone’s scans be imported into Revit? That would be a real gamer-changer!

@CreateHubTips Жыл бұрын

If you use Autodesk flow of work it should be an ease. All point clouds can be exported in .laz and you can import .laz files into recap. Maybe more relevant questions would be if accuracy and georeferencing is important to you?. For real projects accuracy are often a must and iPhones do not have the accuracy you need for that. Then you have a project that is not really attached to any coordinate systems unless you establish ground control points and measure them physically (that requires a gnss receiver). I would definitely give this a go for preliminary sketches/ideas, preliminary existing conditions that do not require accuracy. I would concentrate my efforts on small projects since the iPhone can only do so much on bigger sites (larger files tend to be a problem).

@culleyparris6728 9 ай бұрын

Engineer here, same question. We use a Leica scanner

@Dotic1 Жыл бұрын

I'm in the surveying business and this technology is both good and bad, i have ran into surveyors in new york that clearly use technology like this and when we go back to the subject property the client is wondering why the results are so different. This type of work needs to be done at centimeter level accuracy but some surveyors are abusing the fast and easy yet not accurate technology like this and producing legal documents.

@trollenz 2 жыл бұрын

5:45 what are the units of these residuals ? If meters it seems pretty terrible...

@RamiTamimi 2 жыл бұрын

These are in feet, which is still pretty terrible because the iPhones GPS isn’t very good.

@trollenz 2 жыл бұрын

@@RamiTamimi everything looks better in feet 🤣 I haven't realize the iPhone was using gnss with Lidar, which means that with an external simple rtk receiver we could possibly achieve stunning results while highly reducing drift... I don't know how those apps work but they clearly use some kind of sensor fusion algorithm between lidar odometry and gnss... They're really one tiny step away from getting awesome results with the aid of an external device. Real-time would be a little bit trickier but post processing would definitely be easy. There's probably no market for that for anyone to get their hands on it though. Thanks for the test, it's always interesting anyway.