Tormach's PathPilot: Conversational Quick Look!

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I often use the keyboard to jog the Tormach PCNC mill to clean up parts, but with the free conversational programs in Tormach's new PathPilot controller, let's give the facing op a test drive!
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@NotIT
@NotIT 9 жыл бұрын
Thanks for the video! I'm really looking forward to the conversational programming. Like you, I never messed with the MACH 3 wizards. Partly because I always felt doing it via MDI was easier for me than figuring out how those wizards worked. Also I felt that there was less chance of doing something bad. I'm also guilty of just jogging around manually too.
@jessefoulk
@jessefoulk 9 жыл бұрын
Very cool
@OwensEngineering
@OwensEngineering 9 жыл бұрын
Good little controller for jobbing type work. Engraving wizard is an awesome function! If you can do accurate circular pocketing that can be useful too (think you could by setting x & y at pocket limits on the centre line of your circle and setting the correct radius)
@brianborrero6263
@brianborrero6263 9 жыл бұрын
Cool video. Looking forward to see PP in action at your open house.
@GoughCustom
@GoughCustom 9 жыл бұрын
Out of curiosity: how come you didn't use the superfly cutter for doing this face as well?
@LumaLabs
@LumaLabs 9 жыл бұрын
Two things my friend: 1. We need to buy you a nice 2 or 2.5" face mill! Oxtoolco showed one off a while ago that just ripped through some beefy steel on his Acra (of course, insert choices make all the difference, but it was a neat tool that you would probably love). 2. Boring video, but could you shows us all your tips and tricks for cleaning chips out of your Tormach? Are you running a shopvac? Scooping them out? Magical chip pixies? All the machining videos we watch, and I'm always curious to see if anyone has trickery for cleaning up all the chips!
@timmarks7252
@timmarks7252 9 жыл бұрын
That was my thought: why aren't you using a face mill for this? Horses for courses, and all of that... Thanks for the video, looking forward to seeing more of conversational. Hopefully my copy will arrive soon and I can play around with it for myself. How come you are the only Beta user posting videos? This is just like the lathe; not a single beta user posted more than a short paragraph in their blog. Tormach needs to spread their net wider when they look for beta users... and pick people with public youtube channels...
@willywgb
@willywgb 9 жыл бұрын
Hi John Great video. Hope you plan to show all of the Conversational tasks? Question - Could you just enter the Tool diameter into the Tool Window or do you always have to have the Cutting Tool set up in the Tool Library? Cheers Willy
@EmperorDevilhunter
@EmperorDevilhunter 9 жыл бұрын
I just made a very short modular Gcode for linuxCNC to make this kind of stuff. Just put the size of the stock and click start.
@kenhendricks1135
@kenhendricks1135 8 жыл бұрын
to square a part you cut the top and then put that cut face against the back jaw. when you put an uncut side against the back jaw you can get out of square. it may work once in a while but it will bite you in the future. I am one of the tool and die maker - cnc programmer with 33 years of experience that I have heard you talk about
@Squat5000
@Squat5000 9 жыл бұрын
The key is that you didnt have to "waste" any time jogging things. Click, set, run, and do something else. That plunge though... I almost got a bit concerned there! I broke my 1/2" rougher a little while ago on a plunge... IMHO, they need a lead in. Say, X start of 0, and lead of -.5 or something, on both X and Y to help keep a smooth entry. Simple and quick tutorial though, and its the right way to show off "smart machining". Doing the least work to get the most results.
@best49erfan
@best49erfan 8 жыл бұрын
I have a question about tool offsets. is it you only have to set them once or do you have to do it for each job prior to running?
@DOTdirtbiker
@DOTdirtbiker 9 жыл бұрын
What kind of tap did you say, jolt tap 4:43? And stant widget 4:50?
@carbidelabs6522
@carbidelabs6522 9 жыл бұрын
I do the same thing with the keyboard for squaring. I guess its a byproduct that Tormach machines are more approachable like a manual mill than say a Haas machine. I guess the graphic is general, you can put the Superfly or Tormach modular in there and give it a larger stepover. The conversational looks cool, looking forward for a treadmill video! Do you have a Passive or active probe, I'd love to see the new menus. From what I hear they added more options!
@timmarks7252
@timmarks7252 9 жыл бұрын
The conversational wizard make the path based upon the tool radius (from the tool table) and the stepper. Putting a 2" face mill or superfly cutter in with the same 70% step over would give you a path geometry where it cut it in 2 passes (instead of the spiral pattern).
@Liberty4Ever
@Liberty4Ever 9 жыл бұрын
I'd have probably done that job full width with the SuperFly in a few passes, but I've also used a rectangular pocketing Python wizard in LinuxCNC to face a part (or level the MDF sacrificial table on the CNC router which is a very tedious job by hand). I've also faced parts by jogging, and by scrolling through a few lines of G code in MDI mode with edits to the values. I like the conversational wizards. I know a lot of machinists like manual machining, but even for the menial stuff like this, I generally prefer CNC wizards to turn the wheels for me. I suppose pre-CNC machinists will often prefer turning the handles themselves, but Tormach's customers are often people with no machining background so they'll learn things the CNC way.
@GeofDumas
@GeofDumas 9 жыл бұрын
Man, I need that engraving wizard. Serializing parts takes a long time when I have to post the code for every single one.
@josephcperry
@josephcperry 9 жыл бұрын
What's your secret to clamping off center like that without pulling the work out of the jaws with tool pressure?
@MrDaniell1234
@MrDaniell1234 9 жыл бұрын
a little bit easier than the one`s in mach another good quick vid
@MrDaniell1234
@MrDaniell1234 9 жыл бұрын
NYC CNC free against free never used New Fangled
@jimt3842
@jimt3842 9 жыл бұрын
John, Do you think tormach will sell a standalone version of PathPilot to compete with Mach? I like the look and feel.. thx
@MrDaniell1234
@MrDaniell1234 9 жыл бұрын
no
@underourrock
@underourrock 9 жыл бұрын
Excellent video. I see below that you found out that the diameter needed to be in the offsets. The tools used in a video would be great information to include in the text description for those that may find it interesting. What was your tool diameter in this video, out of curiosity? My main question that I'd really like to know: If I wanted to only face something off in the Y direction (X start = X end = some value that will only take off one layer in the Y direction, is this reasonable for this GUI? Example: I want to take 0.3" off along the Y direction at a depth of cut of 0.1". My Y start is 0 and Y end is 6". So to visualize this, I just want to take off 0.1" at a time, three times, from z = 0 to z = -0.3 going along the y axis, holding X fixed. Is this a reasonable use of this screen or am I hitting a foul ball here? :) (This question could be extended to facing something off in the X direction and holding Y fixed?) Sorry if these are obvious to some. I'm new to CNC and PathPilot is so new, I'd like to make sure I understand it. Thanks!
@underourrock
@underourrock 9 жыл бұрын
NYC CNC do you mind giving it a try sometime? I tried last night and it wanted a z depth of cut instead of zero. I didn't want to cut in z so my start z and end z were the same. It said I had to have a nonzero value for z doc.
@razor666666
@razor666666 9 жыл бұрын
Try plunge like that in tool steel :D It looks good compared to tipical g-code input but still needs some polishing. Google Siemens Sinumerik, Fanuc Manual Guide. Don't get me wrong for this kind of machine this is great but it is still miles away. Same for Haas, I work on VF2 and conversational mode is waste of money for some serious work. But still this looks better than Haas, at least you can set DOC and Z end compared to Haas that thinks that you can remove 20mm of material in only one pass. And you end up with looping your code for x times for every step down. Conversational my ass
@GregsGarage
@GregsGarage 9 жыл бұрын
I suspect their software is only available to tormach owners..? They've got some pretty cool tools.
@GoughCustom
@GoughCustom 9 жыл бұрын
LinuxCNC (which their software is based on) is a GPL licensed, which means that any alterations have to be made publicly available as well... Not sure how Tormach is going to handle that, but legally they should HAVE to release Path Pilot as open source.
@GregsGarage
@GregsGarage 9 жыл бұрын
Oh wow... Great info. Thanks! I'm guessing you need a linux box to run that software? It will be way cool if that code becomes open source.
@GoughCustom
@GoughCustom 9 жыл бұрын
Greg's Garage LinuxCNC comes with a pre-packaged linux system (It's actually very easy to install and run, worth trying if you haven't). The open source thing I noted above is what I understand SHOULD happen given my understanding of the situation (I'm a software developer). Hopefully they haven't found a loophole to get out of releasing the code...
@GregsGarage
@GregsGarage 9 жыл бұрын
Very cool. I took a peek at the website already. I'm not a Linux guy, so I didn't drill down too far. Is there someone selling a system with a stepper controller and the software as a package? Sorry for the newbie questions. I'm just realizing that I'm going to outgrow the arduino solution I have in place for my testing.
@GoughCustom
@GoughCustom 9 жыл бұрын
Greg's Garage Best stepper control system I've used is the Geckodrive G540, CNCRouterParts.com sells kits of the driver, power supply and 3 or 4 steppers. LinuxCNC comes with a setup wizard that includes an option for the Geckodrive G540 so it's quite easy to get it to work.
@helicrashproprocrasher2367
@helicrashproprocrasher2367 9 жыл бұрын
Why wouldn't you just run a face mill operation with the supper fly? It would be just as fast and should give you a better surface finish.
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