TORMEK knock-off knife sharpeners.....any good? - Tool Time Tuesday

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Simple Little Life

Simple Little Life

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With all of these imitation Tormek knife sharpeners popping up, I had to try one out and see if they were any good. Full Disclosure: I paid for this with my own money, and am in no way affiliated with any company that is making or selling these things. Except for Amazon affiliate links. Where you can buy these things...cool right?👍
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@finn127
@finn127 4 жыл бұрын
Tip from a guy who found out the hard way: I never leave the stone in contact with water in less the wheel is turning, accidentally left it in to long, the stone was no longer round. So whenever I stop it, I lower the water tray. And that sharpie trick is good, however, you can use it while the stone is dry and machine is off. Just turn it a bit by hand, you’ll still se if the sharpie disappears.
@jaluver5955
@jaluver5955 4 жыл бұрын
i was going to buy one, thx for the advice. and is there more to know?
@ottohonkala6861
@ottohonkala6861 4 жыл бұрын
I did the same on a different wheel....Id empty the water and leave it on until dry.
@ottohonkala6861
@ottohonkala6861 4 жыл бұрын
(that ruined the wheel, permanently) - these are a little more expensive - so don't ruin them......
@Deusmecumest
@Deusmecumest 4 жыл бұрын
Great tip. Thank you.
@scor440
@scor440 4 жыл бұрын
It was still round just heavy one side where the water soaked in update i was a grinder using coolant for 25 yrs so i hope someone doesnt try to correct me because you will be wrong
@markthepcdoc7707
@markthepcdoc7707 4 жыл бұрын
The real test here is actually finding a phone book any more.
@Beachnative42
@Beachnative42 4 жыл бұрын
ROFL
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын
I just got another one in the mail. Crazy 👍
@trubadyr99
@trubadyr99 4 жыл бұрын
Who cares about physical phone books anymore?
@FreeFarmPestControlUK
@FreeFarmPestControlUK 3 жыл бұрын
Argos catalogue bro 😎👍
@Camelotsmoon
@Camelotsmoon 3 жыл бұрын
I've asked that before. I'm like, where do these people find phone books anymore 😂
@realsharpknivesandfirearms8571
@realsharpknivesandfirearms8571 5 ай бұрын
I have a Tormek T8 and tried to same some money and bought two Wen wet sharpeners for my tool sharpening business. When I turned both Wen's on it sounded like the were going to blow up. There were other problems so I sent them both back and bought another Tormek T8. I appreciated you taking the time to review a cheaper unit. I can say without a doubt you get what you pay for and there are no Tormek killers in my opinion.
@frenchyroastify
@frenchyroastify 4 жыл бұрын
I had to run my machine with a wheel dressing tool clamped for a long time to true the stone. Makes a huge difference
@Jeedehem
@Jeedehem Жыл бұрын
Your intro - with its montage and upbeat music - sums up pretty much how I feel when I’m heading to the workshop.
@marcagel
@marcagel 3 жыл бұрын
@13:06 FYI - The way to use the strop to get both sides if you're doing more than a 6" blade is to reverse the direction of the spin and just stand on the other side. That way the handle is again on the outside of the spindle and it's not rotating toward you.
@dragunov525
@dragunov525 2 жыл бұрын
Came to comments to say this.
@fiddlestickzmuzik
@fiddlestickzmuzik Жыл бұрын
@@dragunov525 lol me too..
@ttonAb2
@ttonAb2 4 жыл бұрын
I picked one of these up on my way home! Excited to try it out!
@Riyame
@Riyame 4 жыл бұрын
Tormek accessories work great. There is the WM-200 angle gauge to determine your angle and the stone setter which allows you to freshen the stone or use the fine side to get a finer finish for finer work. Red Beard Ops did a review on the WEN sharpener version and he showed a few great accessories as well as a knife clamp modification that you may find interesting.
@jamesmontgomery6343
@jamesmontgomery6343 4 жыл бұрын
Man, I can't tell you how good it is to hear another knifemaker was frustrated with sharpening, because that's exactly how it is for me. I love the entire process and then I dread the sharpening because it frustrates the hell out of me. I'm getting decent results with paper wheels now, but I'm going to keep an eye on these in the future.,
@made_by_jon
@made_by_jon 4 жыл бұрын
A tip from my time using a Tormek (second to none) for matching an angle, instead of checking it under power you can just turn the stone by hand to see if it i removing the sharpie mark. Less likely to facet your edge.
@willb3698
@willb3698 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant! I use a sharpie all the time for filling Frets on Instruments like Guitars, enables us to see the high vs low frets. BUT I would not have considered what you suggest.
@coleyounger4060
@coleyounger4060 3 жыл бұрын
Wen puts the Tormek in the shade
@e.t.preppin7084
@e.t.preppin7084 4 жыл бұрын
I started with sharpening before I got into making knives. I’ve used my edge pro for many years and love the system. No heat worries but kinda difficult to start a brand new edge on a new knife without say breaking the 90’s on my grinder. Have done it without but too much work and stone wear. The tool clamp that came with your machine looks like it would be good for clamping chisels. 👍
@lokinya
@lokinya 4 жыл бұрын
I have been using a knockoff tormek for some years now and it works fine for my chisels and knives at home. I still keep my stones around for a quick touch up though. For 120 euro I have no regrets buying it.
@Dildosoup
@Dildosoup 4 жыл бұрын
Cheers Jeremy. I bought a similar one today after seeing this last night. I take all my bushcraft and hunting knives to 800g on waterstones before stropping, but as you know, it's a real ball ache if you're doing a batch and establishing that secondary bevel. I'm hoping I can just whip off some material before taking it to the hand stones. Thanks again, you may have just saved me a full day a week. Literally.
@JHorvathCinema
@JHorvathCinema 4 жыл бұрын
Great timing, I was just talking about this with a friend to sharpen scissors, currently using an edge pro with a home made scissors guide, but I’ve got to do like 10 pairs per week and quickly putting a toothy edge on consistently would be a great time saver
@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives
@WessexBladesHandMadeKnives 4 жыл бұрын
the Tormek angle guide plate jig thing is cool , it adjusts as the stone wears out...
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын
That is cool 👍
@chrisosh9574
@chrisosh9574 4 жыл бұрын
A very handy machine, I would like one for my wood working tools as well as knives. Tool Time Tuesdays are good too, keep 'em coming when you can.
@peterspaltman
@peterspaltman 4 жыл бұрын
13:20.. 6" isnt the max length.. you can reverse it and strop on the other side
@DonylynKnives
@DonylynKnives 4 жыл бұрын
Came down here to say this 😂
@sunship2
@sunship2 4 жыл бұрын
Exact my thought...
@ryanedwardking
@ryanedwardking 4 жыл бұрын
Same.
@johnearley9816
@johnearley9816 4 жыл бұрын
Likewise
@joshevans3452
@joshevans3452 4 жыл бұрын
Yep
@Mongrel714
@Mongrel714 4 жыл бұрын
I've used the Tormek sharpener, mostly on scissors, would sharpen scissors shaving sharp, was tougher to do knives, there is a small learning curve, but the unit works wonderfully!
@billclancy4913
@billclancy4913 4 жыл бұрын
I'm a beginning knife maker, and I have a Tormek t4 and the Japanese wheel. It has upped my game and makes short work of sharpening
@karilappalainen4814
@karilappalainen4814 4 жыл бұрын
Diamonds and t4 30min/h t8 no time limits
@joecoastie99
@joecoastie99 4 жыл бұрын
Dude, loved the instructional approach
@TheGuardian_TM
@TheGuardian_TM 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Wen. It’s a good little system. I press diamond grit stones on the main wheel to adjust the grit of the main wheel up to 1000 grit. I also change the strop wheel for 3 different pastes.
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын
Oh sweet, thank you for that info 👍
@alalston4252
@alalston4252 4 жыл бұрын
Have the same one when also does a set of jigs with the long jig and short jig as well as another one or two I think for scissors or something for around $50
@ttonAb2
@ttonAb2 4 жыл бұрын
how does pressing diamond grit stones on the main wheel adjust the grit?
@alalston4252
@alalston4252 4 жыл бұрын
@@ttonAb2 the dressing Stone re profiles the surface to finer or more course
@walte99
@walte99 4 жыл бұрын
@@ttonAb2 I have the Grizzly version and it comes with a stone that has a coarse side and fine side and is supposed to dress the stone as such. Seems odd to me too but it works. I doubt you could get it to 1000 with a diamond stone though.
@RickDeevey
@RickDeevey 2 жыл бұрын
I got one those Maximum sharpeners myself on sale at Canadian Tire and I like it. I have used it for sharpening chisels and plane blades and it does a fine job. I go to diamond stones and water stones to put the final edge on the better chisels, but the machine does a great job on the primary bevel and reprofiling. I can't afford a Tormek, so I'm very happy with this purchase. Had it a couple of months now. The big trick is getting the angle right with the guide and keeping the edge square across the blade, especially important on the plane blades. Still learning. Haven't done a knife or scissors with it yet, but that's coming. One suggestion: drop a couple of small magnets in the water reservoir to gather the metal waste so it doesn't build up on the wheel (probably is more of an issue with chisels and planes blades because you are removing more metal, unless you are reprofiling a knife shape). It is said that you can dress the wheel to get it to a finer grit. Gonna check into doing that.
@dogbreath7088
@dogbreath7088 4 жыл бұрын
Use a standard leather stropping pad with green compound after the machine strop, it just finishes an edge off nicely (10 year Tormek T7 pro sharpener here in Scotland)
@tpuma1234
@tpuma1234 3 жыл бұрын
I've been using a Tormek T-7 for several years and I'm very pleased with it's functionality and the sharpening outcomes. However, the big problem with wet grinders in general is the cumulative time it takes to sharpen a single knife (setup, sharpen, breakdown, cleanup). There's nothing quick about it. If you're sharpening several knives it's likely worth the time, but if you're sharpening only one or two you'll be happier using something else (like a belt grinder). It all comes down to personal preference and the time you wish to invest, but I'll just say that I like wet grinders...sometimes.
@MemoriesRR
@MemoriesRR Жыл бұрын
Excellent presentation. Very helpful. Thank you.
@Imwright720
@Imwright720 4 жыл бұрын
The people who complain about the heat changing the temper are knife nerds. We have them in every industry. Thank goodness because we need them.
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын
I agree one hundred % 👍
@leepetersen4082
@leepetersen4082 4 жыл бұрын
I am an above average wood carver and i have/use one o these. I love it for shape grinding my chisels. I use a hard felt wheel for strop surgical shine final sharpening. FOr 170 bucks u cant go wrong. I love mine. Defn not tormek but doesnt break your bank account!
@RedBeardOps
@RedBeardOps 4 жыл бұрын
Hey I have one of these knock-offs (The WEN model which I did a review on)! They're decent. Thanks for putting this out there. The Tormek Dressing tool is a must have for these to true up those wheels. I also modified the jig to work better with aggressive drop point knives. I will say it can be hard to sharpen knives without a sharpening choil... without messing up the plunges.
@e.t.preppin7084
@e.t.preppin7084 4 жыл бұрын
Red Beard Ops I just mentioned to Jeremy he needs to check out your video on your Wen but I forgot to use your new channel name 😂. I really want to duplicate your set up. I’ll probably still finish up with my edge pro but maybe not always.
@RedBeardOps
@RedBeardOps 4 жыл бұрын
@@e.t.preppin7084 Lol, Jeremy's stuff rocks! I'm happy he tried out that model. I still use the modified jig, but I have ditched the laser guide for most of my sharpening. I find that's it hasn't been necessary with a little practice.
@jamesfair9751
@jamesfair9751 Жыл бұрын
I know this is old but I’m looking to get one of these. I also thought about the knives without a choil. I assume the actual tormek would be the same. Also what did you do to the jig to make it better. I’m going to try and find your video but if you have any other input it would be appreciated.
@tone1132
@tone1132 4 жыл бұрын
i run it the other direction. i also work from the other side. you can then move that guide bar to the front when your done establishing a burr and use it for a guide while stroping. I've been using this type of sharpener since 2009. mine is made by JET (discontinued item) I have three of them.
@bwillan
@bwillan 4 жыл бұрын
I suspect that the Tormek grading stone would be available as a separate accessory purchase. This would give you a second grit on the main stone.
@CanadianCuttingEdge
@CanadianCuttingEdge 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks, I have been thinking of getting one of these myself. They go on sale here in Olds quite often. I do wonder, maybe try your paper sharpening disk on this tool. If possible swap out the strop wheel and put the paper wheel on. Of course, it would sharpen more slowly but the slower speed would also create less heat, I assume.
@GeorgeWMays
@GeorgeWMays 4 жыл бұрын
Really good review. Thanks for sharing.
@johnernest2779
@johnernest2779 3 жыл бұрын
Good video! I'm always learning something new. I bought a tormek t8 and yes it was a pretty penny and hard to swallow the cost but what a machine!!! Probably never get my money back in my lifetime but don't care as I never have a full know again and only takes a few minutes not hours.
@Spectt84
@Spectt84 4 жыл бұрын
Tormek has had multiple iterations of the same style sharpener over the years. They have 8" & 10" models (although Tormek uses the metric system, so it's 200mm & 250mm respectively). They are awesome. I would bet any company producing a sharpener "influenced" by Tormek's design, would use the same shaft diameter to allow them to use Tormek wheels, if not they're dumb. Tormek has an awesome assortment of wheels, but prepare yourself self for "sticker shock" some cost almost as much as the damn machine. The one I would be "eyeing" is the Japanese water stone, I think it's rated at 4000 grit! If that doesn't "float-your-boat" they also have diamond wheels in coarse/fine/ultra fine, if I remember correctly the "ultra fine" diamond wheel is rated at 1200 grit, which I'm sure would also make an incredible edge. But again, the Japanese wheel is where it's at! I would love to see you review that someday.
@billgiles3261
@billgiles3261 2 жыл бұрын
The Tormek accessories are great for the cheaper slow speed sharpeners. I use the Tormek one for planes and chisels.
@griffithshandmade-knives
@griffithshandmade-knives 4 жыл бұрын
I mentioned this on the Old instagram there, that I love this machine for setting an edge on a new knife because it’s water cooled, and then from this machine onto a 400G stone/ then strop (higher progression for kitchen knives). I struggled with sharpening - like most - and now I am finally getting there👍. I have my machine on a crudely built swivel top also, so I can quickly spin the machine around. Great vid as always Jer👍👊
@walte99
@walte99 4 жыл бұрын
To me, setting the initial edge is why mine sits in a corner. It takes toooooo long! Now setting the edge with a 120 and then going to this is worth trying.
@griffithshandmade-knives
@griffithshandmade-knives 4 жыл бұрын
Walt Edwards Walt, that doesn’t bother me, at about between 10000’ths and 5000ths on the edge after heat treat it puts it on just fine, I don’t seem to notice it taking too long.
@TonghoPhotography
@TonghoPhotography 3 жыл бұрын
Fascinating review. I know nothing about this system but from what I observed, the clamp system that came with your unit would work if you'd mount the bar on the other side (horizontally instead of the default vertically that you were using)
@dmmdmm5435
@dmmdmm5435 4 жыл бұрын
What method would you use to sharpen a billhook chopper ? I struggle getting it just right
@richardcordell9377
@richardcordell9377 4 жыл бұрын
I purchased the sheppach one,which comes with the knife jig, and the other jig you got was definitely for chisels and plane blades,but it doesn’t have the two way switch,which is very cool👍🏻but great machines all round
@Pr0bie5an
@Pr0bie5an 4 жыл бұрын
Canadian pesos huh? That’s the language of the empire of dirt if I’m not mistaken.
@esmithiii2003
@esmithiii2003 4 жыл бұрын
The angle of the dangle...
@ronkennedy213
@ronkennedy213 4 жыл бұрын
Ave rules. All bow down in his presence. And the young chickadee.
@aspincelaframboise5300
@aspincelaframboise5300 4 жыл бұрын
It's Canuckistan eh... Ü
@nateuerdaz8038
@nateuerdaz8038 4 жыл бұрын
But...does she chooch?
@VolvoGonzo
@VolvoGonzo 4 жыл бұрын
Chinesium
@pmchamlee
@pmchamlee 4 жыл бұрын
I had use of a Tormek for a while. It is a good machine; however, quite expensive. I will consider this one. I am proficient in straight stone and strop sharpening, so it would be an 'add on' for me.
@spenkazz
@spenkazz 4 жыл бұрын
I do a lot of sharping with my princess-auto version, and I found in between the grinding wheel and the hone take your edge and run it with the grain of some hard wood. It helps with the burr and makes the process a lot quicker and works better in my experience. also the Tormek dressing tool is a must have. I really like the videos though keep it up!
@PM-wt3ye
@PM-wt3ye 3 жыл бұрын
The Problem with puting a tormek wheel on this grinder - if you do that, you can buy a tormek as well. Because what makes the tormek that expensive are the wheel. If i would buy the high quality wheel i would probably do the same with the grinder. Very nice video, thanks!
@skillage18
@skillage18 4 жыл бұрын
I had trouble sharpening knives for ever. I used stones but it took me long to get it right. I ordered an 80$ belt sander on amazon. with 15$ worth of belts up to 1000 grit. Also a leather belt off of etsy. Best money I ever spent. 5-10 minutes and a knife is a razor.
@deadstickdave9479
@deadstickdave9479 4 жыл бұрын
Absolutely spectacular editing! It's been a great pleasure seeing the content become even better over time. Big fan and always looking forward to the next video. Also that clamp looks like it might be better suited to sharpening chisels maybe.
@BillyJoeJimBob55
@BillyJoeJimBob55 3 жыл бұрын
It is a chisel clamp
@galafever
@galafever 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for another great video! What’s your thoughts on the “Hollow” grind that this produces vs a “Flat” grind or even a “Convex” grind (that easier to do on a belt grinder at the slack belt)?
@MountainFisher
@MountainFisher 4 жыл бұрын
I make knives too and I use a wet belt to sharpen knives, a 1x42. I have a 2x48 as well, but I can do convex just above the platen, a space about 5" between the wheel and platen, then flat on the platen and hollow grind on the 6" top wheel. I use silicone carbide belts dampened with a sponge so as not to over heat the edge. It doesn't need a lot of water. I don't bother to put a hollow grind edge on a hollow ground knife, because for the longest lasting edge I always put a slightly convex edge at 12 degrees on my D2 knives, on my O1 knives I go about 14-15 degrees. Since I finish by hand I'm going to get a slight convex edge bevel anyway. I have a compass guide I made for my grinder so I end up with what I want within a degree.
@Hengry-hn7rb
@Hengry-hn7rb 3 жыл бұрын
@@MountainFisher if you ever make a video I will sub thanks for the info👍
@joeporter4970
@joeporter4970 4 жыл бұрын
You could make up an MDF wheel and apply a piece of leather to it. You could make it the same diameter of the grinder to increase the blade length capacity.
@Bustopable
@Bustopable 4 жыл бұрын
I have a Tormek that I paid around $900 for with all the attachments. Its an awesome machine and has paid for itself may times over. ( i had a sharpening business for many years) If this is only around $200 its well worth the price. Tormek did give me lifetime replacement on the wheel though.
@jessepatch9076
@jessepatch9076 Жыл бұрын
you owned a shit sharpening business
@davesizemore21
@davesizemore21 4 жыл бұрын
Jeremy! Some of these videos you’ve done lately, I swear it’s like you can read my mind and already know what I wanna see. Lol! I’ve seen these things all over the place as well, but haven’t seen one in action. Thanks for the tip on using that Tormek clamp.
@davekatzzz
@davekatzzz 2 жыл бұрын
נפפפ וןיפ⁹פ
@barryinn1778
@barryinn1778 2 жыл бұрын
I like your video, good basic instructions. I have Tormeks first sharpening system called super grind it came out in 2000. Well back in 2016 we flooded in Baton Rouge so my tormek went under, I just got it going again after cleaning it and oiling the motor for a week (motor shaft was rusted in place) it started running. Saved $300.00 for new motor. What you have is identical to tormeks. There is not much to them except the tool holders.
@leighchristopherson2455
@leighchristopherson2455 3 жыл бұрын
While in a machine shop class (community college) we had to cut the sleeves off of our coveralls so that they came no lower than our elbows. Rotary equipment you shouldn't have long sleeves.
@randomguy3281
@randomguy3281 4 жыл бұрын
Have you considered buying a real Tormek? Yeah they are expensive but they have addressed just about every issue you bring up in this video, and are just a genuinely good experience to use. Like having the water trough depth adjust, a default two grit stone, a decently reliable angle gauge, less clearance issues, ect... I got my T8 last year, and now use it for most of my sharpening, I only use my Wicked Edge for super fine polishing now. I got the Hand Tools package and have found some of the jigs super useful, I did not know how much my belt sander axe edges were lacking until I sharpened one on the Tormek with the ax jig. And the extra long knife jig is great for mounting really large chopping knives, even FFG ones. Also on the Tormek you can take the stone or strop off really fast with no tools to give you all the clearance you need for long blades. I very highly recommend the real Tormek.
@allanpennington
@allanpennington 4 жыл бұрын
Does the Tormek still use a friction drive onto the strop wheel. These knock offs mostly have a bevel gear in the housing, usually one steel and the other nylon.
@randomguy3281
@randomguy3281 4 жыл бұрын
allanpennington There is a rubber wheel under the the strop wheel that is the friction drive train. It supplies a lot of force, I’ve yet to run into a situation where I don’t have all the power I want.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
@@randomguy3281 you'll run into a problem when the rubber hardens up. Everyone always does. It's a crap design. Although Tormek does use stainless steel shafting. These knocks offs don't. So the shaft rusts in the knock offs. Least it is what I've heard.
@jpem86
@jpem86 4 жыл бұрын
I have been thinking about these for awhile. I think I'll shell out some bucks for one. Thanks!
@rmholladay
@rmholladay 4 жыл бұрын
If you can only have one for sharpening, would it be this or the mdf wheel system with slow speed grinder?
@shawnlavigne9069
@shawnlavigne9069 3 жыл бұрын
Just purchased a tormek t4 with 3 knife jigs and a stone planer. It never even crossed my mind to go with a budget option.
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 3 жыл бұрын
Ultimately, I’m pretty sure you’re better off with your purchase. I have zero experience with the Tormek but I really do want to try one someday. This one works good, but I question it’s longevity. From everything I’ve heard about the Tormek, it’s a tool that will last for years and years. I would buy a Tormek if I hadn’t already had thousands of dollars in other sharpening systems.
@shawnlavigne9069
@shawnlavigne9069 3 жыл бұрын
@@Simplelittlelife my thoughts are the same, also the tormek comes will alot of well made useful jigs.
@eddiehartson5854
@eddiehartson5854 4 жыл бұрын
I have the Tormek T-8 and it comes with a grading tool, micro adjustment on the tool rest, a truing tool, and a tool to know the specific angle of your bevel...all key components to making the machine worth it.
@1pcfred
@1pcfred 3 жыл бұрын
What you listed is not worth an additional $800.
@SwedishSurvivor
@SwedishSurvivor 3 жыл бұрын
@@1pcfred The T8 costs about 500$ not 900$.. and the extras it comes with cost about 180$ separat. So thats 320$ for the machine alone. Worth every penny. All the clones om the market are really poor made, from materials , axel, bearings, plastic etc etc. Sharpen some tools for Friends and family you easy get your money back. A great investment Tormek!
@robkling2243
@robkling2243 4 жыл бұрын
Placement on the stone determines the bevel angle of the edge, the rest of the adjustments determine the plane of the edge. The Tormek gauge takes into account both. When its correct you feel like you are cutting off a lobe of the wheel. Everyone references the Tormek, by the time you start buying everything to make it a better you could have bought a Tormek with a 7 year warranty. They are expensive but if you use them professionally, not as much as your time or using dull tools.
@laurentnadalknives8170
@laurentnadalknives8170 3 жыл бұрын
I use to make knives, for only few month, and sharpening is always and still a mission.... It makes me seriously think to get one of those bad boys. A big thanks for this useful and accurate test video. Best regards from France my friend.
@laurentnadalknives8170
@laurentnadalknives8170 3 жыл бұрын
And the thing you don't think you can sharpen a knife with, it is for chisels :)
@johnburlake1229
@johnburlake1229 2 жыл бұрын
As a Tormek owner this was interesting to watch, I have no regrets in my investment I just wish the accessories were more reasonably priced. But the most distracting thing in the video is that I’m not getting enough of a view of the bicycle hanging in the background to identify it.
@watermain48
@watermain48 4 жыл бұрын
I'm glad that you heard me when I said "button that sleeve". Thanks for a nice video Jeremy...
@michaelbrassard7926
@michaelbrassard7926 5 ай бұрын
I have one of these, and to answer a few of your questions: 1- If you're looking for a stone, check out Tornado stones, They will fit and are cheaper. 2- Most of Tormek accessories will fit 3- Little tip I did - On the bar closest to the stone, I ran a tap the entire length, and just leave it on, that allows me to do a fine tune of height adjustment.
@jimmorrison3035
@jimmorrison3035 3 жыл бұрын
Found a video on this thing at last. Thought it was just me.the clamp may be good for a chisel but sucks for a knife lol. Thanks for posting.
@richsmout550
@richsmout550 4 жыл бұрын
Interesting thanks. If ever get the space like the idea of a few with different grits. You could also have different strop compounds so start at the beginning again and run through the strops especially for people that like a polished edges 👍
@1travis2
@1travis2 4 жыл бұрын
Useful vid! Thanks
@user-om3wo1uc7d
@user-om3wo1uc7d 4 ай бұрын
❤❤❤❤❤❤😮This machine is very beautiful and effortless
@silvergoldking
@silvergoldking 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Jeremy. I bought the Wen, it came with 2 knife holders one big and one small, like the one you paid 40 dollars for. It also came with the knife holder you can't figure out how it holds a knife because that one is for an axe. When running the 10" 220 wheel I found out that you should run it in reverse so the water goes up into the blade. Its also good to put a magnet in the water tank. The Wen came with a plastic angel gage that has lots of different angles, works good. I have a video on it you can check out. I got to warn you I'm not as good as you on making videos. I just do it for fun. Keep up the great work. You are very good.
@nikknives9352
@nikknives9352 4 жыл бұрын
It is good to have a consistent apex/sharpening in your knives either you are a beginner or not. I think that these machines give you a repeatable standard cutting edge. even if not a pro machine it is good to give a good edge for your customers.
@rameshbharakhada5497
@rameshbharakhada5497 3 жыл бұрын
Your explanation is very good
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you, I appreciate the kind words👍
@Richard-nb4iv
@Richard-nb4iv 2 жыл бұрын
I had my eye on a new tormek, but because of buget i went for the king canada. It is exactly like the one you have. I used a 1/2" x13 die on the rods for the knife holder. The Tormek has a thread on theirs.That way its easier to adjust the knife angle. If i was smart i would have uesd a finer thread's on mine. It's a bit of a learning curve, but it works.
@fuckyougoogle9420
@fuckyougoogle9420 4 жыл бұрын
Make a leather belt for your grinder. I love the one I made. feather in the joint and use contact cement
@rhheard
@rhheard 4 жыл бұрын
Of all the sharpeners you have reviewed, what is best for just edc sharpening???
@FunDumb
@FunDumb 2 жыл бұрын
Always down to watch am in depth sharpening video.
@2mnxffrddfghjbbvcdfh6644bcddcv
@2mnxffrddfghjbbvcdfh6644bcddcv 4 жыл бұрын
Bought one, thanks
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын
Right on. 👍
@raybedard9024
@raybedard9024 4 жыл бұрын
Hi y’all, I’m in the Niagara region and can’t find one of these anywhere. Nothing at Princess auto, Can tire or even on Amazon ( currently unavailable)..any tips?
@user-kk9ez9hg4z
@user-kk9ez9hg4z 4 жыл бұрын
as a home cook (not a knife maker), a cheap belt sander with 1000 and 5000 grit belts and angle guide are doing sharpening job good enough. After a couple of passes on each side with each belt (total of 4 passes on each side), bevel is usually not even warm. And belt sander is very versatile tool for home project. As a knife maker.........I guess dedicated sharpening tool like this or Tormek is better option than all-around belt sander. I was curious how these knock off would work so thanks for the info!
@michaellionart4841
@michaellionart4841 4 жыл бұрын
So could you replace the strop-wheel with one (mdf, paper etc) the same diameter as the stone and use the guide rail as well for stopping? Just a thought Thank You
@finn127
@finn127 4 жыл бұрын
Sure, why not?
@dougsullivan9022
@dougsullivan9022 4 жыл бұрын
Not practical.....as the stone wears out, the diameter changes.
@seanflanagan2441
@seanflanagan2441 4 жыл бұрын
Michael Lion'Art, you could but the surface speed would be faster and might be too hot. Worth a try, if you have a light touch.
@snedisdead
@snedisdead 3 жыл бұрын
So is there any verdict on using Tormek wheels on this Canadian Tire unit ?
@paulparrott888
@paulparrott888 4 жыл бұрын
Hey! Tormek make an angle finding tool and stone grader which alters the grit of the stone. Both are invaluable!
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks for that, I’ll look into it 👍
@broken1965
@broken1965 4 жыл бұрын
Use android angle apps
@ClaesKamp
@ClaesKamp 4 жыл бұрын
As FanteFinn mentioned it's a good idea to not leave the wheel standing still in water because it looses its roundness. A difference i could see between that one in the video and the t-8 is that there is no micro adjustment for the arms height which i find very useful. Don't know if that little adjustment is worth several hundred bucks though. =)
@IamDoogy
@IamDoogy 2 жыл бұрын
I didn't know that you shouldn't let the wheel stand and water. Thanks. I wonder if the micro adjustable support arm is another Tormec accessory that it would be worthwhile buying, assuming it would fit.
@rdankers1138
@rdankers1138 4 жыл бұрын
I bet you can get an angle gauge from Tormek. It no only lets you know what angle you’re at but also compensates for the two different wheel diameters! I love mine and use it every time I sharpen.
@valentinassabaliauskas913
@valentinassabaliauskas913 4 жыл бұрын
I have t8 and all jigs for it I'm really pleased with it main reason for buying it was my woodworking chisels and kitchen knifes. Olso I got drill bit jig . Really happy with it . Now I can buy used drill bits next to nothing and have them better then when they where new. Because of double bevel. Buying tormek is not cheap you must be quality obsessed like me or justify your spending.
@billwhite5853
@billwhite5853 6 ай бұрын
Does this come with a stone dresser? Also could you take a two sided flat stone and change the course grit to finer like you can on the tormek?
@rodpotts2666
@rodpotts2666 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed that!
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын
I enjoyed your comment. Thank you 👍
@aktrapper6126
@aktrapper6126 4 жыл бұрын
The Wen knock off you linked to in the description does not appear to have the reversible switch? Are you sure its the same machine you showed in this video?
@PETERESTREICH
@PETERESTREICH 3 ай бұрын
good demonstration etc. Will the Tormek wheels fit the Detroit Sharpener
@Filthybiker
@Filthybiker 6 ай бұрын
Thank you.
@dennisleadbetter7721
@dennisleadbetter7721 4 жыл бұрын
Judging by the sound when your grinding, that grinding wheel is a lot coarser than on a Tormek. A Tormek only operates in one direction and to strop, you work from the opposite side. Tormek have produced a mounting that allows easy swiveling of the machine if you don't want to just pick it up and turn it around. I've used a Tormek for over 20 years.
@firstmkb
@firstmkb 4 жыл бұрын
I watched another video on this grinder, and it sounded very smooth after he used a tool to true it.
@Saw_Squatch
@Saw_Squatch 4 жыл бұрын
Piece of advice for sharpening axes, free hand it. These stones can create a concave or hollow grind on your edge of you're not careful or using a jig which is NOT what you want in any kind of axe. Also you can get the tormek angle gauge for like $20 and it is well worth it for doing precise sharpening
@simonhopkins3867
@simonhopkins3867 4 жыл бұрын
The jig you got is for chisels.
@oldoutdoorsguy3238
@oldoutdoorsguy3238 3 жыл бұрын
Maybe so for plane irons but how are you going to clamp a wood handled wood chisel in that clamp? I can see where the tightening screw on the clamp could run through the hole in the plane iron but wood chisels??? ...... 'Splain please.
@simonhopkins3867
@simonhopkins3867 3 жыл бұрын
@@oldoutdoorsguy3238 watch the video I posted. ⬆️
@oldoutdoorsguy3238
@oldoutdoorsguy3238 3 жыл бұрын
@@simonhopkins3867 Hi Simon, I tried that link? the blue square with the up arrow in it, and got nothing. I am not a real computer whiz so maybe I am missing something here??
@darylkenny4562
@darylkenny4562 Жыл бұрын
I got the same machine and something I noticed is you can spend more time on the strop and get your knives razor sharp. I’m worried a bit about wearing it out but I’ve been using it to polish the edges and they come out great. They pass the paper test, the grape test and the tomato test. I do think a finer wheel would be much better though.
@legallyfree2955
@legallyfree2955 Жыл бұрын
You can make the wheel finer temporarily with a reasonably inexpensive grading stone.
@rhondaburrell3267
@rhondaburrell3267 9 ай бұрын
Very satisfied with this product
@chrisweller81
@chrisweller81 4 жыл бұрын
love the channel . keep up the great work . have a question have u ever made a straight razor. would even buy one from u.
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you! I appreciate that. I do want to make one of those in the future. 👍
@chrisweller81
@chrisweller81 4 жыл бұрын
@@Simplelittlelife i cant wait for that video. I have learned so much from u. Thank u so much
@OneMHz
@OneMHz 4 жыл бұрын
Remember to re-mark the bevel after checking. Otherwise you could take the mark off the edge on one test and off the back of the bevel on the next and not end up right on the bevel.
@partrickstowman8039
@partrickstowman8039 3 жыл бұрын
I sharpen a lot of knives, with a 1"×30", usually 650 then 800 1300 to 2000 grit belts. I have the paper wheel grinder too, but the belts work fine for me. I'm firmly in the Whatever Works for You camp.
@granthoribe461
@granthoribe461 4 жыл бұрын
I got the WEN about 6 months ago because I was super interested in this type of knife sharpening. It was so terrible. Cheap plastic and cheap parts. You could just feel that it was a "copy" version of the Tormek. I even got the wen starter jig set up. The knife jig (the one you are using in the video) was so poorly made that the "clamp screws were too long to flip the knife to do the other side. It started griding the plastic off the tightener. So i had to go to the hardware store and just buy a flat bolt. Eventually I forked up the money get the Tormek t8 and couldnt be happier. Obviously you get what you pay for and the T8 is amazing. My question is did you get the angle guide and figure out how to match that? thats the hardest part for me. Thanks
@TheBigCanucker
@TheBigCanucker 4 жыл бұрын
Awesome video and review I’ve been eyeing this up for some time and this is sure helping me make up my mind. On another note it’s good to see a fellow Alberta KZfaqr I started my channel about 3 months ago on EDC items and I’m just down the road in Lethbridge. Thanks for the info new sub buddy.
@Simplelittlelife
@Simplelittlelife 4 жыл бұрын
Right on! Thank you 👍
@neilyeag
@neilyeag 4 жыл бұрын
I see these come as a variable torque as well for more money. Any benefit to that one?
@taylormcallister1713
@taylormcallister1713 4 жыл бұрын
Great instructional review. Ive been considering getting one of these for a while now.
@CCCfeinman55
@CCCfeinman55 4 жыл бұрын
The Tormek grading stone will temporarily make that 220 stone into a 400 or some claim, 800 for finer polishing. I don’t actually know the grit, but I know it works. They have a video out....you might want to check it out.
@robhimself79
@robhimself79 4 жыл бұрын
There is a dressing stone that will allow you to use that wheel at a higher grit. I think you should be able to use the Tormek one as well.
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