Toro Timemaster vs Ferris FW15 - Cut Quality (Round One)

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Billy Goat Lawn Service

Billy Goat Lawn Service

2 жыл бұрын

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In this video, I compared the cut quality between the 2021 Toro Timemaster (Model # 21199) and the Ferris FW15 (Model # 5901737). Both mowers had the stock high lift blades installed.
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@brutus1967
@brutus1967 Жыл бұрын
I’ve owned a FW 15 for approx 16 months now. Bought it new. Can honestly say that I have never had issues with the cut quality. I have cut 12”-14” grass quite a few times with it. As long as I sharpen my blades regularly, all is good. I did enjoy the comparison.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I recently sold the FW15. We put 300 hours that mower. Used both mulch and hi lift blades and not sure why the cut quality was not as good as the timemaster.
@billybobbob3003
@billybobbob3003 Жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService lol stupid comparison should of been @ same deck height
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
@@billybobbob3003 yes, it would have been nice to cut at the same height but the timemaster height increments are a quarter inch difference than the FW15. If the Ferris was set on 3 inches the Timemaster would be either 2.75 or 3.25.
@TonysLawnCare215
@TonysLawnCare215 Жыл бұрын
Yup The Ferris Blades Are Not Sharp !
@barbcarpenter5016
@barbcarpenter5016 3 ай бұрын
I liked the intro, killed it. Great comparison
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate the comment! Glad you liked the intro, others not so much.
@ousamaabdu794
@ousamaabdu794 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see a new video Just from looking on my cell phone it looks like the Timemaster had a quite noticeable better cut quality.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
Been a very busy spring and didn’t post as much as I wanted. More videos coming soon. I was very impressed with the cut quality from Timemaster in tall grass. Round 2, will see if the mulching blades on the FW15 do any better.
@johnrus7661
@johnrus7661 Ай бұрын
Makes me feel better about my Timemaster. Was starting to have a little bit of buyers remorse, maybe I should have spent a few extra bucks on a commercial mower. But looking at this, I think it will serve my homeowners use case just fine.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting! For homeowner use, the timemaster is the way to go if you mow somewhat often. The Ferris is nice but is twice the price.
@johnrus7661
@johnrus7661 Ай бұрын
@BillyGoatLawnService I wonder if the blade was just dull or needed a better blade. It just doesn't sit well that a commercial mower would leave so many stragglers on heavy grass. As that's the whole point of a bigger more powerful machine.
@giuliadellapi4800
@giuliadellapi4800 Жыл бұрын
Love my Timemaster!
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
I totally agree! Thanks for commenting!
@CarlosGuzman-hv7to
@CarlosGuzman-hv7to Жыл бұрын
I have a snapper SW15 it dose struggle with high grass but if you’re mowing weekly cuts it’s a beast
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
I agree! I’m not sure why I’m getting stragglers with my FW15.
@bamb1000
@bamb1000 11 ай бұрын
Thanks from the uk
@Capoots
@Capoots Жыл бұрын
I own a timemaster and I love it I wanted a Ferris but really shocked with the outcome of the video and cut quality. I will definitely say I’d like see a comparison with them both mulching and double cut maybe … also compare stripe ability
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
I did another video (Round 2) with both mulching kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldZofduenNaZeI0.html. I’m trying to figure out why the Ferris cut quality not as good as the timemaster.
@blaiseducdaumont1280
@blaiseducdaumont1280 9 ай бұрын
Ferris has a major manufacturing defect on their hands. That's inexcusable!
@captainslogstarshipenterpr9122
@captainslogstarshipenterpr9122 Жыл бұрын
We have the Ferris, no issues with cut quantity, very well built. Its not over used but for narrow access its perfect.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback! I agree… the FW15 is well built.
@almost_godly1578
@almost_godly1578 Жыл бұрын
I had bought the FW15 new in 2020 over the Timemaster ive had it for 2 seasons, and i love it. The motor has great power never had it bog down or struggle to cut. speaking of cut, the cut quility is amazing i bought a mulching kit for it too the second season i used it and its very compatible with that if you hate the side discharge. the only complaint i have is when you have to start the motor, it take a couple pulls to start even when its hot sometimes, so if you have the option to get the electric start, i would advise it. mine is also the fixed wheel version btw and i have no problem with it over the spinning wheels. overall 10/10 mower, worth the price!
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! The FW15 is definitely a good solid mower for the price. I recently sold my FW15 to a friend. Here is the link to the video before I sold it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/irx2nMZ4vrLaYJc.html
@captainslogstarshipenterpr9122
@captainslogstarshipenterpr9122 Жыл бұрын
Dont forget to use the choke!
@BoneYardLawnService
@BoneYardLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
I’ll need to do a Toro vs Ferris zero turn comparison 💯✂️ good vid
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
Head to head between the ZT’s. That would be very interesting to watch. I’m heading over to your channel to subscribe.
@fordmodela3641
@fordmodela3641 Жыл бұрын
I would compare the features as well, cost, fuel usage, operator fatigue, tires/ wheels. I think the results would be a better test than just cutting tall grass. After all if you are in the mowing business, this wouldn’t be a typical mow. That’s why you said you would be using your stand- on to finish this field… thanks for at least doing this comparison. I would watch more. I understand that the Ferris also has a reverse? That’s huge to me.
@BatangSampaloc
@BatangSampaloc 2 жыл бұрын
Wow! TM for the win. 100lbs lighter and more than $1k cheaper. At the end of the day, it's all about the cut quality. Thanks Billy Goat
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
Yep! I’m impressed with the Timemaster. Will see if the FW15 does any better in mulch mode. Round 2 coming soon.
@NorthBoroughsLawnCareLLC
@NorthBoroughsLawnCareLLC Жыл бұрын
I own the FW15 and never had a cut quality issue like you displayed her. Never any stragglers and definitely nothing left between the blades. May be an issue with the mower.
@TonysLawnCare215
@TonysLawnCare215 Жыл бұрын
I Believe By The Color Of The Cut Grass on The Ferris Side Looks To Me As If The Blades Are Not Sharp As You Can See Yellowing .The Ferris Is Not Slicing/Cutting Clean . That Tells Me The Ferris Blades Needs Sharpening. Also The Ferris Is Going Upwards ageist The sun Light As The Time Master Is Cutting Downward So No matter what the stripe Color Will Changes But To Leave Grass Stranglers Bend Grass That Ferris Blades Did Not Slice Clean Off with a 10+HP Motor =-> THAT IS 100% BLADE NEEDS SHARPENING
@robertsaca3512
@robertsaca3512 Ай бұрын
Why Is Every Word Capitalized?
@TonysLawnCare215
@TonysLawnCare215 Ай бұрын
@@robertsaca3512 I LIKE IT LIKE THAT
@MM-rr1kp
@MM-rr1kp Ай бұрын
youre not going to see yellowing immediately.
@thecuttingforce
@thecuttingforce 2 жыл бұрын
Didnt see that comming. Wow. Good old timemaster..
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised as well. The blades on the FW15 were sharp.
@thecuttingforce
@thecuttingforce 2 жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService you got to compair the build up under deck. To...
@bradanderson1024
@bradanderson1024 Ай бұрын
I called my time master a piece of junk. But I made a few adjustments and it operates so much better. I just expected more out of the box, but I do like it now. As long as I can get parts I'll probably like this mower
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Ай бұрын
The timemaster is the most expensive residential push mower on the market but at the same time the least reliable mower for the price (in my opinion). It’s definitely a high maintenance mower but the replacement parts a readily available.
@mrgreen2769
@mrgreen2769 2 күн бұрын
After testing both Toro model 21199 vrs the latest Ferris FW15 I can't say you did a fair evaluation. You never showed the blades under either mower before and after. Every test I did with both brands both with exact new blades the Ferris out performed the Toro on cut. On both dry, wet and tall grass. I have never known a Ferris to under perform. I think this is a matter of loyalty and sponsers interferring with an unbiased test.
@howlingwolf125y
@howlingwolf125y Жыл бұрын
Love the video idea.. Great/fair match up and comparison.. but I would have liked to see the cutting shown at normal speed and normal volume.. I really thought it was a bad idea to add that music too.. Don't get me wrong .. You are a cool dude and you had a great idea to show this .. But I would have liked to hear what the engine of each mower sounds like while cutting the grass.. I was surprised that the Toro did a bit better.. The specs say the Ferris should have a bit more power.. Wonder if you need to have a mechanic check out the Ferris or maybe you got a lemon Ferris? Overall good job.. Thanks for the info and video..
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Actually I tried to record the engine sound while mowing but my phone was set for photo instead of video. Didn’t realize it until I was done. I recently posted another video, Round Two that I was able to record the sound of the engines during the initial pass. I did add music during the other 3 passes. Here the link to that video: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldZofduenNaZeI0.html
@howlingwolf125y
@howlingwolf125y Жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService Ok Billy.. Thanks for getting back to me and thanks for the new link.. I checked it out and really liked the video and info.. Good work and thanks for posting the videos.. Super good info!!!
@temujinkhan6326
@temujinkhan6326 Жыл бұрын
technically not a fair match as the toro timemaster is residential mower
@cameronwilliams6611
@cameronwilliams6611 2 жыл бұрын
I Like That Ferris Mower It's Awesome
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
Ferris have great mowers. I will be posting more videos on the FW15.
@cameronwilliams6611
@cameronwilliams6611 2 жыл бұрын
Ok Billy
@matthewaaron664
@matthewaaron664 2 жыл бұрын
I would like to see it run with the mulch shoot down while mowing. When running mulch moved, does the shoot stay closed?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
I will be posting another video for mulching. Yes! The chute will stay closed while mowing.
@jonathonrhea4659
@jonathonrhea4659 Жыл бұрын
I was reading the comments no one asked, what is the piece you have a the toro that opens the side discharge. And where did you get it or did you make it?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Good eye! A lot of my videos have little things that most viewers don’t see and/or catch what I say during the videos. Here’s a link to the side discharge chute: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbppo8WWv6etnHk.html
@davearmstrong5226
@davearmstrong5226 Жыл бұрын
Toro was in open sun grass, Ferris was in shaded slightly higher grass....will make a difference...
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Now that you mentioned it, that’s a good point. Thanks!
@NewVisionLCS
@NewVisionLCS Жыл бұрын
If only Toro / Exmark would make this mower with caster wheels as standard , it would be golden!
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Would be nice if toro/exmark had a caster wheel option. I believe there’s still aftermarket caster kit for the timemaster but the reviews are not so great.
@NewVisionLCS
@NewVisionLCS Жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService Yeah, that's my point. For a mower of this size and weight, caster wheels are a must!
@johnwrigley1624
@johnwrigley1624 Жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService Most of the caster kits have really small wheels
@rick3747
@rick3747 11 ай бұрын
I have a Timemaster. It would be better with 12" pneumatic rear wheels and 10" pneumatic front caster wheels plus a gallon gas tank. I have begged Toro to do an upgrade kit that many would likely buy.
@NewVisionLCS
@NewVisionLCS 11 ай бұрын
@@rick3747 definitely needs caster wheels!!
@TonysLawnCare215
@TonysLawnCare215 10 ай бұрын
HOW MUCH GRASS TO MULCH The best mulching action typically results from cutting only the top 1/2 inch to 3/4 inch of grass blade. This provides short clippings which decompose properly (much more quickly than longer clippings). The ideal cutting height will vary with climate, time of year, and quality of your lawn. We recommend that you experiment with both the cutting height and ground speed until you achieve the best cut. Start with a high cutting height and using progressively lower settings until you find a cutting height that is matched to your mowing conditions and preferences.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I use to cross cut a yard twice a week for a customer. I never cut off more than 1 inch per pass.
@cristianvelasquez9271
@cristianvelasquez9271 Жыл бұрын
Hi man, cut grass on slopes? work good?
@tech45
@tech45 Жыл бұрын
Show the maintenance needed for both !
@user-dq8kk9xu2m
@user-dq8kk9xu2m 7 ай бұрын
People buying these mowers want to know things like cost, horsepower, brand of engine, whether or not they have blade brake clutch, etc.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 7 ай бұрын
Appreciate the feedback. I do have a video of the specs for the FW15. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/q7OKqqxpz7-uqWg.htmlsi=8ECqINF_0qflTQyD
@Hondarider250
@Hondarider250 Жыл бұрын
Toro lays down a good cut but the toro “recycler” mowers tend to not wanna spit out the grass when clogging which makes it worse. Call me crazy but that’s one reason why I preferred mtd mowers (Troy bilt,yard machines, etc.) for overgrown small yards cause when mulching they do great. Seems like the Ferris or scag would be the better choice however the toro/exmark will always be the og 30 in walk behind lol
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I totally agree with you. MTD mowers do preform better on overgrown yards (in my opinion). I plan on doing a video soon comparing my 2017 Timemaster 30 to my 2017 Craftsman (MTD) Pro Series 28.
@clenden5369
@clenden5369 Жыл бұрын
I would expect any mower cutting grass that tall to leave stragglers when the grass is that tall. Even your Scag 36 would need to mow the lot twice. What I would like is a test when the mowers are five years old.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I totally agree with you. I was just surprised that a commercial mower didn’t cut any better than a residential mower compared.
@jamesnave2670
@jamesnave2670 9 ай бұрын
Does the discharge cover open up like that from the factory on the timemaster? If not how did you modify that?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 9 ай бұрын
Actually I came up with my own version of a chute blocker for the timemaster. Here is a link to the video I posted kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbppo8WWv6etnHk.htmlsi=wuxMmhQmhw33ZnsV
@bigsonslawncare
@bigsonslawncare 2 жыл бұрын
Toro💯💪🏽
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
Very impressed with the Timemaster quality wise even though it’s not the most reliable mower.
@dogoargentino1420
@dogoargentino1420 Ай бұрын
Blades make so much difference I own both and really like take the toro more and is more light
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I agree… blades do make a difference. I recently bought a set of Ballard Razor blades for the timemaster and surprisingly impressed so far. I will be posting a video in the near future comparing the difference between the blades and cut quality.
@UknowWhoWeR
@UknowWhoWeR Жыл бұрын
Would it had made a difference if u had cut the grass in the same direction at the same height?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the feedback. Will be doing more comparisons in the future.
@markbrisec3972
@markbrisec3972 Жыл бұрын
Surprising results, no question about it. Especially given the enormous price difference between the two.. Here in EU the Timemaster costs around $2000, while the FW15 is around $5000. That being said the Ferris is built as a tank and it will outlast the Timemaster and spend a lot less time at the repair shop. I am really thinking about adding the Timemaster to my little business. Now I'm exclusively on the Honda 21" platform. And although Hondas are great I don't like their lack of power. Given that most of my customers are on a monthly plan, I almost exclusively cut long grass by discharging or collecting and while discharging Honda get clogged relatively easily if the grass is damp or wet. Timemaster with its wider deck and more power, would be a great addition for my first mower while Honda would be used by my helper when we work together.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
You may want to start looking for another mower other than Honda. I heard that Honda is going to stop making lawn mowers. Not sure when. I believe they will continue to make certain engines. The Timemaster are nice mowers for weekly accounts but they tend to clog up cutting wet grass. They do bag fairly well though. We mostly bag the clippings on most of our yards anyway.
@markbrisec3972
@markbrisec3972 Жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService Yes, Honda is ending a development and sales of the small internal combustion engines cause those will be the first to get banned by governments..But my Honda will mow many many more lawns, I'm sure of it... That being said I love the FW15, you can see it from a mile that it's a robust commercial mower compared to the Timemaster, even compared to Toro's commercial Timemaster (I think its called the Turfmaster)... Of course the price is way too much for my business income. Costing more than $5000 it's starting to play on the level of a decent used zero turn, like Ferris 400S for example, or TORO TimeCutter MX 5075T. Although both of these zero turn mowers are residential, I would really make use of them since I hope I'll be getting few of the larger lots this season. SO the ZT would be operating 3-4 hours a week, which is not too much for the residential grade mower. Unfortunately since our market is very small there are no used zero turn mowers to buy. So if I buy this zero turn I definitely wouldn't have the money to buy the Timemaster, let alone FW15.. Honda would remain the finishing mower.. But if plans of getting larger lawns this season doesn't pan out, then maybe investing into FW15 would significantly help my productivity on the type and size of lawns I'm currently mowing...Then in a year or two that wet dream of my - the shiny zero turn mower, will come true....
@jimmymiller6068
@jimmymiller6068 2 жыл бұрын
I have the FW15 and have never had stragglers. That's surprising. Were the blades sharp?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
I was surprised as well. Blades were sharp. I was cutting grass/weeds nearly a foot tall with high lift blades. Next test will be mowing with the stock mulch blades.
@NorthBoroughsLawnCareLLC
@NorthBoroughsLawnCareLLC 2 жыл бұрын
I have had my FW 15 for about two years and have over 200 hours in it. I've never had any stragglers or areas uncut areas like you have in this video. I'm betting there is a defect with this mower because I get a near perfect cut every time. Here is a video of my cut quality.. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9ZirdyJ18qqZZ8.html
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
@@NorthBoroughsLawnCareLLC I agree! Not sure why the FW15 cut so badly. Im going to do more videos soon. Do you run hi-lifts or mulch blades?
@NorthBoroughsLawnCareLLC
@NorthBoroughsLawnCareLLC 2 жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService Hey... I use the oem blades it came with. I am really happy with this mower and its performance. These blades are definitely not high lift. I do videos on this mower too.. Take a look at the cut quality I have with mine. This is honestly the best mower I have ever owned. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/p9ZirdyJ18qqZZ8.html Like I said, I'm willing to bet there is a defect or bent spindle or something.
@SlakJohnson902
@SlakJohnson902 Жыл бұрын
Two questions: Were the blades equally sharp? Why mow in a circle, continually blowing the cutting into the path of the next cut?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I believe the blades were sharp at the time I recorded the video. As far as shooting the clippings to one side, I did that so I could see the stragglers. I plan on doing more comparisons. Will do some with different mow paths. I also have different styles blades as well to compare.
@MM-rr1kp
@MM-rr1kp Ай бұрын
​@@BillyGoatLawnService you believe? that means no. you wanted to show toro as better. not starting with newly sharpened balanced blades is a mistake, not a good comparison.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Ай бұрын
@@MM-rr1kp I agree! The type of blade and thus more the sharpness of the blade will effect the cut quality. I put many hours on both of these mowers. Both have their issues with the cut quality, especially after mowing for several hours.
@michaelkearney5562
@michaelkearney5562 Жыл бұрын
To get a proper cut, blades need to be sharp all the time. I sharpen the blades of my Timemaster after every day's cut. If I don't, there are stragglers. I'm sure the same goes for a mower like the Ferris.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting. Appreciate the feedback. I should sharpen my blades more often. I plan on doing more comparison videos this summer.
@rodneycaupp5962
@rodneycaupp5962 Жыл бұрын
Musica with sharply clapping hands.... OMG. Let us hear ourselves think ( Dump the Rap ). I did just buy a Toro 30 inch yesterday, so it's nice to see the performance with the engine often stated to be slightly under powered. Better than the 190cc but at 223cc it still fades on hills and tall grass when mulching . sunny wet and cold outside,. I have to wait to see how mine does on this small property. I couldn't stand that 18" troy built for another summer ( advertised as 21 full inches ), now triple cutting areas of the Lawn will be no more. Number one challenge is cut to hill side out back.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! The Timemaster is a awesome mower as long as you know its limitations. We originally had the 190cc model and ended up selling it to upgrade to the 223cc. Sorry about the Rap, some like, some don’t like the music.
@dustinwalden7091
@dustinwalden7091 Жыл бұрын
Where did you get the flap lifter upper on the time master?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
I actually make them. Here is the link to how I install them. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbppo8WWv6etnHk.html
@dustinwalden7091
@dustinwalden7091 Жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService pretty nifty. I just bungee it up but I’m just a homeowner. I can see where you would need that commercially.
@victorrippe5845
@victorrippe5845 2 жыл бұрын
My Toro Timemaster has been nothing but problems ive had it for over a year the blade ingaugement cable broke the tensioner pulleys have broken twice and every time this happens blades start rubbing with each other and the blades have to be replaced and blades go out of timing thank God warranty has taken care of this and has replaced it. my mower before this one was a Honda HRX 217 have had the mower for 6 years and the tranny has been the only issue that needed to be replaced and I still have this mower im thinking of selling my Timemaster after warranty exp and just keep using my Honda its a real shame cause I really loved this mower but the quality its just not there I was only using this mower in like 6 properties a week where our big mowers don’t fit I thought if my Honda mower was able to handle this for 6 years that it wouldn’t be an issue with my Timemaster well I guess I was wrong.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
I can relate to your frustration. Even though the Timemaster has a great cut quality (in my opinion), it greatly lacks in dependability. It can be expensive to maintain. Having to replace cables, belts and blades more often than most other name brand mowers in it’s class. Glad to hear your mower is still under warranty. Thankfully timemasters do have a high resell value if you decide to sell it. I plan to do more videos on preventive maintenance to help prolong those parts that typically wear out before it’s time. Thanks for commenting, those Honda HRX seem to be a good solid mower.
@32098c209
@32098c209 Жыл бұрын
I’ve heard they are notorious for breakdowns
@paulb2769
@paulb2769 Жыл бұрын
Sorry to hear about the problems you have had ! My Timemaster has mowed app 5 lawns per week for the last 4 - 5 years with NO issues at all. Regular oil changes and clean air filter. Always Sharp blades! It has served me well.
@victorrippe5845
@victorrippe5845 Жыл бұрын
@@paulb2769 Thanks man yes I used mine in like 4 yards a week where my big mowers don’t fit l loved the mower had a beautiful cut but reliability was terrible after 6 months then constantly problems finally sold it good thing I didn’t get rid of my Honda HRX217 that I’ve had for 7 years and she is back in the truck.
@paulb2769
@paulb2769 Жыл бұрын
@@victorrippe5845 Hi Victor. It's hard to believe in the near future Honda will no longer make mowers! It's also very strange that you have had so many problems with your time master and I have literally had none . You wouldn't think that the same model would vary so much in dependability. Best of luck with your future equipment !
@dtman66
@dtman66 Жыл бұрын
Toros do have a nice cut. That said I think your test was flawed. Back and forth instead of heaping all the grass on to the next pass. Why didn't you set both at 4"? Sound would be good. Enjoyable video though. Thumbs up.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I also did a video in mulch mode while mowing back and forth. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/ldZofduenNaZeI0.html
@Jsyetto
@Jsyetto Жыл бұрын
Hello, Where fue u get the shutter for the toro??
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Good eye for detail… the shutter (chute blocker) is a do it yourself modification I installed on all my mowers. Here is a link to that video kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbppo8WWv6etnHk.html
@andyb9994
@andyb9994 Жыл бұрын
The Toro is more a homeowner model, the ferris is a heavy duty machine and will last longer, but does not mean it will cut better as you see, Toro has timed blades meaning 2 blades overlap one another, I'm not sure what the Ferris has probably 2 blades that do not overlap.....both good, just depends on what your doing and how much you want to spend....I like the Toro for my house....does great.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! The Ferris also has timed blades. I agree, depends on how you want to spend. I’m a fan of timemaster as well. I do have other comparison videos in the works.
@Rolltide3000
@Rolltide3000 5 ай бұрын
A better comparison would be the Turfmaster not the Timemaster. The Timemaster is more of a consumer mower. The Turfmaster and Ferris FW15 are commercial mowers. The Timemaster would match well against either over the long haul.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 5 ай бұрын
I agree! This video was intended to compare the cut quality. Had a lot of questions if the FW15 is worth the money over getting a timemaster. I plan on doing more comparison videos in the future.
@buckbenelli8
@buckbenelli8 11 ай бұрын
Toro has a major design flaw. Grass and dirt accumulate under the plastic shroud covering the pulley system. I cleaned it regularly on my second TM, but it didn’t matter. Both went to the curb in 5 yrs. Motor still ran, the pulley system and spindles just couldn’t take the accumulation of dirt.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 11 ай бұрын
I totally agree! I also have to take the plastic shroud off to clean the build up of debris. Sometimes it’s cake up to the point to where the blades won’t engage. Thanks for commenting! I greatly appreciate your feedback.
@MM-rr1kp
@MM-rr1kp Ай бұрын
why would you compare cutting opposite direction only? should have striped both and started with fresh sharp blades on both machines.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Good question… cutting in the opposite direction was to clearly to show the uncut grass (stragglers). I plan to make future videos from questions I have received from this video.
@Ryan-re1rs
@Ryan-re1rs Жыл бұрын
Idk, id need to see the blades on the fw and see that thier in the same shape as the toro. It takes one little nic in a blade to cause issues.
@victorramirez7343
@victorramirez7343 2 жыл бұрын
Nice equipment review I can tell you are highly experience in the field of landscaping
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Appreciate your support!
@victorramirez7343
@victorramirez7343 2 жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService welcome my pleasure I’d like to formally introduce myself I’m Víctor Ramirez a financial consultant who specializes in funding landscaping companies just a few days ago I helped a company obtain 300k in as little as 2 days no credit check so if you’ve ever thought of using additional capitol for the furtherance of your business feel free to contact me to ok 👍🏽
@ToxicGamer86454
@ToxicGamer86454 23 күн бұрын
You're comparing a nearly $4000 commercial mower vs a $1500 residential mower?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 18 күн бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Most people lean towards the $1500 timemaster having a better cut quality than the $4000 FW15. I tend to agree as well.
@markbrisec3972
@markbrisec3972 Жыл бұрын
WTF was that automatic schute opening on the Timemaster? What is that? Where can I get it and how much does it cost?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Actually I designed my own chute blocker for all my mowers. Many have asked if I could make kits to sell. I did make a 3 part video on how I made it. Here is the link kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbppo8WWv6etnHk.html
@vegass04
@vegass04 Жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnServiceMan, you've got some skills. I wouldn't know how to install the thing if it came to me in the mail.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
@@vegass04 Thanks! It took a couple of years in the making. Possibly I may make kits to sell. I’m sure a friend or family member could help you install it.
@dynamite215
@dynamite215 Жыл бұрын
Man idk my toro "shit" master used to struggle with tall grass so much so i gave up on it , hard to believe it leaves a better quality then a ferris
@dmanburns3705
@dmanburns3705 2 жыл бұрын
The Toro may have struggled, but it definitely made better cuts!🏆🥇👍👍👏👏 P.S. I'd love to see a Honda Commercial Push Mower go up against the Toro Push Mower!🤜🤛
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
I agree! The Timemaster definitely gets my vote for cut quality compared to the FW15. I’m curious if the mulching blades on the Ferris has any improvement with the cut quality. Will see on round 2.
@dmanburns3705
@dmanburns3705 2 жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService I'm ready to see Round 2!!🥊🥊🤜🤛👍👍👏👏
@harryharry3193
@harryharry3193 Жыл бұрын
engine size? 390cc vs 224cc love the comparing, but why add music? lets hear the engine. I like the elec chute control.......coool!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Yep… Big difference in engine cc’s, 390 vs 223. Sorry about the music. Some like some don’t. I try to do a mixture of both on some videos.
@harryharry3193
@harryharry3193 Жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService ok. have you come across a better blade for the timemaster? one that creates high lift?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
@@harryharry3193 I do have a set of high lift blades from Ballard inc. to test on the timemaster. Video coming later this Spring.
@harryharry3193
@harryharry3193 Жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService ok....thanks!
@stephenmacdonald4443
@stephenmacdonald4443 6 ай бұрын
I have not used the ferris but this should no contest , Toro OK with light grass , But struggles with wet or heavy grass Get wet and heavy grass and your well giving up . I dunno if its small blades have not enough speed but ,I was OK at the beginning and end of season but in middle of season and 2 week cut forget it No chance
@spstoopst4363
@spstoopst4363 Жыл бұрын
Better comparison would've been the ferris vs turfmaster.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I would like to do a comparison with the Turfmaster 30 and also the Scag 30 as well.
@benjaminleslie3155
@benjaminleslie3155 Жыл бұрын
that's surprising how much of a Mohawk the ferris left especially with the high lift blades. very strange because that thing has all the torque in the world. that Honda's net torque is a whopping 17.8 ft-lbs of power to it! compared to the timemaster which has just 10 ft-lbs. a comparison between the ferris and the turfmaster would be really cool but just make sure it's the one with the cv224 kohler engine, which does 11 ft-lbs of torque. or the scag 30 inch mower which has the same cv224 kohler on it.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting. I agree! I’m really not sure what’s the problem could be with the Ferris. I just got a set of gator style blades, will see if that makes a difference with the cut quality. I plan to do a video as well.
@truebengalsfan
@truebengalsfan Ай бұрын
Do the Ferris have a bag
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Ferris does offer a bagging system but it is very expensive. The last I checked, the kit was nearly $500.
@truebengalsfan
@truebengalsfan Ай бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService idc I need my bag I hate grass clippings
@Mike-vt6is
@Mike-vt6is Жыл бұрын
The ums are killing
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the feedback! I agree too many ums.
@jawoo2228
@jawoo2228 3 ай бұрын
relevant content starts at 5:20 in case anyone wants to skip the bs
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 3 ай бұрын
Appreciate the comment. I tend to get long winded in my videos.
@johnsouthwell4862
@johnsouthwell4862 Ай бұрын
Did anyone count how many "uhhs" were said?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Ай бұрын
I have gotten a bunch of these comments. As I make more videos, I’m doing a better job editing out the uhhs and umms!
@diazofkenosha8545
@diazofkenosha8545 Жыл бұрын
You didn't cut at the same direction....both are great mowers..
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Both mowers are great. I didn’t cut in the same direction so the grass clippings didn’t across over to the other mower’s side.
@michaelhawkins5530
@michaelhawkins5530 Жыл бұрын
The Toro has that stupid small 1 1/4 quart fuel tank. You have to buy the Turfmaster commercial grade to get the big fuel tank. The cut of the Ferris was quite poor.
@benbricker469
@benbricker469 Жыл бұрын
Wait how the bell u open that chute on the time master 😂😂 please send item number to do that tf
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
It’s actually a homemade version I made a couple of years ago. Here is the link on how I designed it. kzfaq.info/get/bejne/pbppo8WWv6etnHk.html
@cleancutslawncare
@cleancutslawncare 2 жыл бұрын
Glad to see the time master kicking ass.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
So far, the Timemaster wins the first round. Next will be mulch mode in Round 2.
@cleancutslawncare
@cleancutslawncare 2 жыл бұрын
@@BillyGoatLawnService I just got the high lift blades from Ballard for the 30, have you tried them?
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
@@cleancutslawncare I would like to try the Ballard blades. I will have to order a set. Thanks!
@TheTylerWhit
@TheTylerWhit 9 ай бұрын
Lightweight is good and what did I use it for it’s a lawnmower kzfaq.infoUgkxTPN04aT-Qdjr_KS3ql7ng8wnU3wwsCqk also recommend Yes it is lightweight so hence not as robust as our old one. But if you take care it does the job really well.
@jerryskidmore8373
@jerryskidmore8373 Жыл бұрын
Why r u throwing the clippings in instead of out, u don't do that.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! Appreciate your feedback. It was just a test.
@etslawnservice5338
@etslawnservice5338 Жыл бұрын
From what heard Ferris is a hydro mower and that always beats the time master the time master has the worse transmission in mower history I owned one for 2 years and replaced the transmission 3 times before I sold it then I said I’ll get the turf master since it was commercial and guess what same thing so I’ll stay with hydros when the time comes around
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
I totally agree! Not a fan of transmissions in the Timemasters. The Turfmaster HDX did finally put in stronger transmissions.
@tonyslawncare
@tonyslawncare 2 жыл бұрын
First
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks! Appreciate the support!
@dmanburns3705
@dmanburns3705 2 жыл бұрын
🏁🐢🏆🥇👍👍👏👏
@Zanderthelab
@Zanderthelab 2 жыл бұрын
I think Ferris had the best cut quality.
@leadnsteel1428
@leadnsteel1428 Жыл бұрын
The only downside to the ferris is the gas tank is small. I just use a ferries 36 inch wall behind with sulky
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for the comment!
@stephenmacdonald4443
@stephenmacdonald4443 Жыл бұрын
I had a toro and it bogged down long it was hopeless there was nowhere near enough torque
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
The toro will bog down especially when mulching the clippings.
@ICUEverywhere
@ICUEverywhere Жыл бұрын
Guys guys guys this is a very weak comparison. You are trying to compare a $1500.00 Residential Mower vrs a $3500.00 commercial grade mower. Yes lawncare businesses use the Timemaster 30 over the Turfmaster 1. Prices 2. Personal pace. Of course the Ferris is going to out perform the Timemaster 30. The Ferris has a bigger engine, probably more torque and better rpm. When I saw this show up on my list I had to face palm and shake my head. Perhaps you should compare the Ferris FW15 vrs the Snapper FW15 pro 😉. My question is why didn't you compare the Turfmaster HDX 30 instead? After all it's a commercial made mower. Are you trying to mock Timemaster users? 🤔 IDK, it's just silly to even compare these two.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thank you for commenting on the video. To be clear, I’m both a big fan of the Timemaster and the FW15. Not really sure if you even watched the entire video or even read the title. This comparison was more from a quality of cut stand point, not so much performance per say. Don’t get me wrong, the FW15 is one beast of a mower. I’m just trying to figure out why a $3500 commercial mower doesn’t have a better or at least the same cut quality as a $1500 residential mower. Any suggestions or insight would be greatly appreciated.
@Todjcam
@Todjcam 10 ай бұрын
Team Toro!! Half the weight and probably half the price and still cuts better! GTFO here Ferris
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 10 ай бұрын
I totally agree with you. Thanks for commenting!
@braydenbunker218
@braydenbunker218 Жыл бұрын
Count the ums 😂
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Lol… that would definitely put you asleep fast.
@reluctantblumpkin
@reluctantblumpkin Ай бұрын
My 32" Belt drive Bobcat with a 15 horse Kawasaki got totaled by an idiot in traffic. Which forced me to shop for 30" to 32" mowers. I cannot believe how hollow the market is in that size. These 30" mowers with engines so weak they can't dream of pulling a sulky, and even struggle just mowing. So expensive and pathetic. Especially if you're used to a 15 horse Kawasaki PULLING you, then you look at these mowers, lol. Absolutely unacceptable. I just got a 21" honda for light stuff and just take down fences for everything else. Don't waste your money on this underpowered overpriced clown garbage.
@KamCornell
@KamCornell 2 ай бұрын
Stupid review.. you’re comparing a homeowner push mower to a commercial grade push mower.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService 2 ай бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I respect your opinion.
@Skibumsplace
@Skibumsplace Жыл бұрын
Timemaster was the worst mower I ever owned. Went through 3 transmissions in 4 years. If you have hilly terrain, look elsewhere.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
I totally agree, we replace the transmissions at least once a year in each of our Timemasters.
@revfred2008
@revfred2008 Жыл бұрын
My Ferris is way better. The Toro lasts almost a season.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Appreciate the comment. The FW15 is a tank compared to the Timemaster.
@prosoundz365
@prosoundz365 3 күн бұрын
Dude..this is just too much conversation..get on with the cut
@bc454irocz89
@bc454irocz89 5 ай бұрын
Time master is junk
@revfred2008
@revfred2008 Жыл бұрын
Toro Timemasters are trash.
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I see you’re not a fan of the Timemaster. Although I do agree they are not the most reliable mower.
@salpatalano2306
@salpatalano2306 Жыл бұрын
Glad you chose the Timemaster….if you had used the Turfmaster, it would have kicked the Ferris’ ass even more…..
@BillyGoatLawnService
@BillyGoatLawnService Жыл бұрын
Thanks for commenting! I possibly may get a turfmaster in the future. I’m a Scag guy also wonder if the Scag 30 is any good.
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