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TORQUE: Fast & Furious with Motorcycles (Why It Failed)
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Күн бұрынIn today's video, we look back on "TORQUE" (2004). Warner Brother's attempt at making "The Fast and the Furious" with motorcycles.
"Torque" (2004) is often described as "The Fast and the Furious" with motorcycles, but it failed to capture the same success. Directed by Joseph Kahn, this action-packed film starred Martin Henderson, Ice Cube, Monet Mazur, and Adam Scott. Despite featuring cool bikes, thrilling stunts, and intense chase scenes, "Torque" was universally panned. This video explores why "Torque" flopped so badly. Between studio interferance, script changes, and the vision the director had for the movie. It examines what went wrong in this infamous attempt to bring the street racing craze to the world of motorcycles. Whether you're a fan of "The Fast and the Furious" or just curious about movie flops, this video provides all the details on why "Torque" missed the mark.
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Chapters:
Intro 0:00
"Fast and Furious" Popularity 0:37
Director Joseph Kahn Fights with WB 1:38
Torque as a response to / send-up of F&F 3:10
Hot Temperatures / Faizon Love Fired 5:20
Special Effects and Re-Shoots 6:30
Torque Failure & BIKER BOYZ Connection 7:26
Director's Regrets / Bad Marketing 8:50
Cult Film Status 9:59
Fast & Furious Fatigue 11:06
Outro 12:18
#fastandfurious #torque #movies
@MediaPastimes 2 ай бұрын
*FYI:* This is an updated version of a video that I made back in 2022. I deleted the original upload earlier this year amidst my channel getting de-monetized, because I was convinced that the older version of this video caused the problem (I had a trimmed down version of the movie's intro within the first thirty seconds of the video, with no commentary during that section). But I was able to re-record the dialogue and throw in some added content, so consider this the 2024 director's cut 🎬 Thanks for watching 🏍 Chapters: Intro 0:00 "Fast and Furious" Popularity 0:37 Director Joseph Kahn Fights with WB 1:38 Torque as a response to / send-up of F&F 3:10 Hot Temperatures / Faizon Love Fired 5:20 Special Effects and Re-Shoots 6:30 Torque Failure & BIKER BOYZ Connection 7:26 Director's Regrets / Bad Marketing 8:50 Cult Film Status 9:59 Fast & Furious Fatigue 11:06 Outro 12:18
@JeditheScribe Ай бұрын
Glad you came through. I missed this video, even if this is a more updated version. 😁
@braggsdesigns76 Ай бұрын
This movie was ok but BIKER BOYZ IS WAY BETTER
@michaelmiguel6937 Ай бұрын
Biker boys is the best
@TheFactorySealedCollector. Ай бұрын
I haven’t heard about that movie in a long time
@khankake9576 Ай бұрын
Biker Boyz was ass
@Dr.Zoidberg087 Ай бұрын
that's insane lol. this movie was funny and trying to take this piss out of f&f . biker boys was actually serious, which makes is ghey lol.
@ICEBERG_E Ай бұрын
doooooont loooook doooooown
@The_lone_wolf_edits Ай бұрын
“So much Torque the chassis twisted coming off the line”
@masteriansun 4 күн бұрын
My favorite scene from Shrek 2
@Batofgotham1902 Ай бұрын
I don’t know but i loved this movie in childhood. I can say it’s one of my guilty pleasures…
@SilverGhost1996 Ай бұрын
Yeah bro, i remember when i was 9-10 years old, we get this movie on CD (of course it's not original) and we love it. Good old days
@kallekalinski2934 Ай бұрын
Soundtrack is on point 👌🏼
@Batofgotham1902 Ай бұрын
@@kallekalinski2934 listen to photo of shane and ford by trevor, i loved that one.
@metalwhore 20 күн бұрын
I liked it too
@moisesfreire6408 Ай бұрын
Funnily enough here in Brazil this movie was named "Fury on two wheels". Distributors here really went a step forward to sell this movie as Fast and Furious but bikes.
@homedeezyfasheezy5662 Ай бұрын
Haha… I forgot they tried to make Ice Cube an action star in the early 2000s.
@andrewjames7438 Ай бұрын
Aries Sprears said he’s built like a propane tank.
@marcelluscunningham8272 Ай бұрын
So what's Aries built like? @@andrewjames7438
@gamelard1963 Ай бұрын
lol he did triple x after this if i remember lol
@hhmaniak Ай бұрын
Bro I liked ice cube as a actor
@andrewjames7438 Ай бұрын
@@gamelard1963 triple x? Sounds like a gay porn stars name
@bendaydot6733 2 ай бұрын
I'm so glad you've reuploaded you video on Torque. I was worried when you deleted it. I wanna throw my two cents on Torque. I love it and it's genuinely one of my favourite films. It's the complete epitomisation of early 2000s action cinema. Endless product placement, MTV quick-cut commercial style editing, overabundant CGI that looks like a PS2 game cutscene. I think it's better than any of the F&F films for simply being as self-aware as it is. All that's missing from the film to complete the 2000s aesthetic is Blink-182, but ending with a Nickelback song is just as good.
@MediaPastimes 2 ай бұрын
Couldn't agree more. The only F&F film I truly enjoy is "Tokyo Drift", simply because Lucas Black played the lead character in such a goofy way. Also Sung Kang as Han rocks.
@ThatZenkiS14 Ай бұрын
gotta agree, this was my fav movie as a teen
@GilbertoBruno Ай бұрын
One of my favorite action movies ever from the mid 2000s. I keep recommending to every single one of my friends!!
@dominicellison4804 Ай бұрын
Between this movie and biker boys, it was motorcycle heaven in the late 90s early 2000s
@jamirdianalan6349 Ай бұрын
What about the ever so iconic movie “Cool as Ice” by Vanilla ice.
@ChillaMakesVids Ай бұрын
I had the VHS of this when I was a kid, used to absolutely love it!
@elucidator1277 2 ай бұрын
I remember seeing ads for this WAYYY back in the day, but never saw it. After seeing this vid, imma give it a shot. Awesome vids as always.
@goodburger1114 Ай бұрын
Its a great movie
@tone0188 Ай бұрын
Honestly this was one of my favourite movies when in the 2000s. I enjoyed it more than fast and furious at one point. Definitely a hidden gem
@QuantumS1ngularity Ай бұрын
I watched that movie in the mid 2000s and the very first sign of problem with it was actually the title itself - Torque... something motorcycles famously lack. Even something more remote and dumber like "Red Heat" or "Desert Rider" or "Hot Ride" would've been a way more acceptable name for a bike movie. Then when we add that this was one of the first movies, tailored for less than 10% of the audience, it's easy to understand why it failed. I mean i meet close to 100 different people everyday in i still know less than 10 people who actually ride motorcycles. Then on top of that is the premise - drugs in motorcycles... what the actual f**k. A single Cadillac Escalade would easily fit more drugs inside itself than 20 bikes combined. You could literally feel they reworked a car-chase movie script, replacing the cars with bikes. Success though simply doesn't work that way.
@GEMINIEARTHWALKER Ай бұрын
if they really wanted to make Fast XI epic, combine their universes. Vince's twin brother is the villain from Torque. Using the cyborg technology from Hobbs and Shaw, they return to get their vengeance....
@suprola7961 Ай бұрын
Missed this in theaters. But discovered shortly there after. I’ve seen the movie enough times that I’ve memorized the dialogue. Great movie imo! And I had completely forgot about the video game 🎮 Thanks for the throwback!!
@tomrodgers6629 Ай бұрын
I seen it twice in theaters it is a fun movie. I road my 98 ZX 7R to the theater it was cool seeing my bike on the big screen.
@jstewlly4747 Ай бұрын
The sushi line always got me lol but yeah i was obsessed with this film i remember my mom taking me to see it on premier night it really is campy fun good watch
@MyUnlucky13 Ай бұрын
I love street bikes, therefore i love this movie. I love biker boys as well
@ironmaster6496 2 ай бұрын
The world of subtle parodies is a dangerous one, it's hard to strike a good balance when attacking another work, if you lean too much into the mocking side you end up with an incredibly goofy and even bitter product, BUT if you play it too straight then it will be seen as just another one of those things. A great example of a great parody would be Kung Fusion, the thing apparently mocks kung fu movies stereotypes and has a silly tone, yet the action is impressive, the characters are memorable and when it gets serious it doesn't feel jarring.
@Gl-my8fw Ай бұрын
Another absolutely brilliant one for horror is Tucker and dale vs evil. Also cabin in the woods is great for that aswell.
@thebatu89 Ай бұрын
Before Tokyo Drift came out, bootleg dvds labelled it as The Fast & Furious 3
@thepurrfectionist365 5 күн бұрын
2000s were a golden era for bootleg DVDs. All the swap meets and yard sales had em.
@jonatanrobledo9812 2 ай бұрын
Glad you got this one back up. Torque will always be "that one movie inspired by Road Rash" in my head. Still watching from time to time to get some giggles out.
@ExV1rUS Ай бұрын
Torque is one of those movies that is "good" to watch once, but only once. Kinda like Evil Bong, fun to watch one time!
@charlesbullghost5491 Ай бұрын
The motorcycle jump to the 🚆 train. Also driving a mountain on the middle isle of the train. Close to the rows of passengers is setting. Is absolutely 💯 just perfection.💯🥰💞 My great inspiring message is out again! Have a great fabulous wonderful day.😀😊
@mvmpalace 2 ай бұрын
Really good video, never heard of the film but defo interested now
@larajanesen8795 13 күн бұрын
Maaaaan your videos are just ALWAYS exciting no matter what the topic is! One of the best youtubers out there imo!
@christopherestes6760 Ай бұрын
biker boyz and torque... though I was more about that biker boyz clique scene. I watched them back in the day (rented at block buster) and I'd still watch them today.
@dezertkingz714 24 күн бұрын
The only reason why I saw this movie was because it was the "free" second movie at a drive in. And yes I was like this is sick!😂
@natelofties8533 Ай бұрын
Totally was in this scene during this era. The year before, they released Biker Boyz and there were huge motorcycle meetups in the parking lots, stunt shows etc. The following year they released Torque, We all got together and went and watched. The movie was so bad that we actually complained and got our money back. We expected something similar to Biker Boyz with Ice Cube. Several years later I picked up a copy out of a Walmart $5 bin as a gag. Watched the movie and thought it was sooo bad it was actually entertaining as heck to watch. I now laugh at the chick knife/bike fight instead of being appalled. Movie was marketed wrong, released at the wrong time.
@Titot182 Ай бұрын
I look at it retrospectively now as a parody. It's a "leave your brain at home and enjoy it for the pisstake that it is" sorta movie. Fast and Furious 5 before its time. As a 16 year old motorcycle enthusiast at the time of its release, it was bike porn. I personally thought Monet Mazur (Epic's sister) was really hot as a biker chick. The bike models, such as the 954 FireBlade was present and correct as was the 03 R1. I quite liked how they reskinned enduro bikes with sports bike fairings to do the cross-desert scene too, so there's still some practical elements that I could appreciate back then. But watching it retrospectively, I appreciate the subtle jibs and ribs a bit better.
@tonycarrera69 Ай бұрын
Damn I feel like riding now! Haha
@brandonmarks4683 25 күн бұрын
Torque and Biker Boyz are the two movies that really got me and a lot of my family invested in the biker lifestyle more biker boyz than anything else but still great movies that I rewatch at least once a year.
@edman4327 29 күн бұрын
I saw this movie in theaters for a Valentines date back when i was in high school. It was my first date ever so I will never forget torque being Involved in that memory and actually have the dvd that I watch on occasion.
@SurajSinghTomarArya Ай бұрын
Early youtube had cool edits from this movie with music, now learning about the background of director I understand why it worked so well.
@peterpatrickcoyle1779 Ай бұрын
I remember seeing it in theaters with a buddy of mine at 15. After like a couple weeks it was out of theaters, when I told him, we were both surprised because we thought it was good. Not great but there’s much worse crap in theaters for much longer.
@DPLplus 13 күн бұрын
I remember when I was 14 or 15 it was on TV every other weekend and we talked a lot about it school, specially about the Jet bike that was brochure described. More than a mockery, it was the FnF bike edition for us.
@willthomson69 2 ай бұрын
It can't be a coincidence that the BikerBoyz cover looks alot like Road Rash.
@joaoalbuquerque8347 Ай бұрын
One of my favorite movies when i was growing up. Didn’t know it was considered a flop. I highly recommend watching it
@bynahelemaal Ай бұрын
the opening credit sequence with jane's addiction's true nature playing was pretty badass tho! as a 14yo I actually rode my bike to school, listening to that song on my iPod, pretending to be riding a Yamaha YZF-R6 XD
@s70driver2005 Ай бұрын
As someone who's been riding motorcycles for 12 years this movie makes me cringe soooo bad. But it makes me chuckle a few times so its ok i guess.
@xeno52003 2 ай бұрын
I loved this movie. Still watch it to this day
@mastakush4272 Ай бұрын
The intro was cool!
@arsaurabh6044 Ай бұрын
Not sure why it didn't succeed. Loved it as a kid. Still remember this movie.
@Buntabunta937 Ай бұрын
Man I was like 10 when I seen this movie I loved it as a kid, seen it in a video shop one Friday night, this and Supercross favourite movies as a kid
@scotteastham505 Ай бұрын
The biggest problem with this movie and other bike movies. Is the sounds of the bikes were all wrong.
@re9246 2 ай бұрын
Torque was fun. I had it on dvd day one.. But that neveldine/taylor camera work on biker boyz was the only better factor
@alastairmckenziepro 2 ай бұрын
Nobody could believe that Martin Henderson from Shortland Street, could ever rob people on motorbikes. No way!!
@kangaroobot Ай бұрын
I was in the fourth grade when this movie came out, awww the nostalgia.
@ibsays Ай бұрын
I actually watched it 5 times.. one of my guilty pleasure movies
@chrisleighton5102 Ай бұрын
I always thought this film should have been called road rash I remebr the bike fight and thought I want a bandit and now I own one 😂
@marcelharris6541 Ай бұрын
I remembered watching this movie with my cousin and didn’t know the name I thought it was a fever dream or something haha😂
@_wallykhalid Ай бұрын
One of my favourite movies growing up
@The_Legalized_Era83 2 ай бұрын
I loooved this movie back in the day an never understood why it didn't get a sequel
@MediaPastimes 2 ай бұрын
I read a recent tweet from the director that Village Roadshow was trying to make a TV series revival but the rights are tied up. Martin Henderson is still out there killing it so I'd love to see him return to the character.
@kingjulien9525 Ай бұрын
I was young when it came out, I liked it... and still do.
@TSRR-zs6pf Ай бұрын
As a motorcycle rider, there is a big distinction between road and dirt. When they go off road, the bikes are just dirt bikes with road bike fairings on them. Stupid.
@AJayZy Ай бұрын
Why is it stupid? As a car guy, modding street or track cars, even civilian cars into off roaders are cool as hell and not uncommon too
@A1ml33y Ай бұрын
I remember this Hilarious 🤣 comedy This should have gotten a sequel or Six
@Cuunke 19 сағат бұрын
Torque was just ahead of its time
@jozefrockatansky1588 26 күн бұрын
The only movie to ever feature my two wheeled pride and joy...is this film, same bloody colour too if memory serves. Blue Triumph TT600...underrated gem of a bike, once you fix all the "quirks" they have.
@teamspeeddemon Ай бұрын
big fan. this is a comedy & biker boyz was the serious one. both excellent. watch biker boyz first for a heart-string pulling story and watch torque to laugh and then go to bed. don't forget the popcorn.
@EricAnthony94 2 ай бұрын
You should do a review of a movie called Biker Boyz (2003) Basically same premise but a little but more serious about the motorcycle concept
@MediaPastimes 2 ай бұрын
I have good news for you - 7:32
@goodburger1114 Ай бұрын
The soundtrack to BB is awesome
@evilincoln23 Ай бұрын
That was the first thing I thought of when I saw the title of the video. I love biker boyz
@michaelugwueke6312 Ай бұрын
Can you do a video on Biker Boyz soon
@MediaPastimes Ай бұрын
I'll be honest, it's not in the cards. I talked about it briefly in this video but there's really not much more to talk about. That movie was a bit too serious for my taste.
@JustinOtterholt Ай бұрын
This was still an enjoyable movie despite it being fairly low-grade. The only thing that really bugged me is the fact that Henry's bike was obviously belt driven, and they portrayed it as having a chain which he used to murder the guy.
@senseix4748 Ай бұрын
Grew up on this movie and fast furious rev head home these movies are classics forever
@MinutesFromVegas Ай бұрын
Lean Low the song from the soundtrack was awesome as hell though
@lonewolfrcs1331 Ай бұрын
i loved this movie when it came out still one of my top ten favorite movies i have it saved on my laptop so i can still watch it to this day
@algee0218 Ай бұрын
They went Fast X in the first movie. That's why Dom was not superhuman until the last few F&F movies. You gotta ease into the insane.
@i0am0fear0 Ай бұрын
this movie was amazing at a 12 year old. Same vibes as early F&F as a kid
@tradefortutara9608 Ай бұрын
The one memory I remember clearly about watching this movie was with my cousins & a friend of them & he (the friend) keep saying the title wrong, "TOR-QEW"😅.
@sauravshete6088 Ай бұрын
Man Torque is much better than every F&F movie that has come after Tokyo Drift lmao I wish it did better at the box office and we got some sequels :’)
@dowhatyouwill Ай бұрын
That movie was so bad it's good. Cool to see someone made a review of it, thanks! Whenever I catch it on cable I make sure to leave it. The cheesy dialogue, the over-the-top action scenes (the sportbike duel, anyone?) Jane's Addiction, Static-X and Nickleback on the soundtrack...this movie is a 2000's as it gets!
@Craig-wp3pz Күн бұрын
I walked out before the credits finished 😮😅
@ericmendoza7139 11 күн бұрын
I actually really enjoyed TORQUE had it on DVD back in the day good times
@ryurc3033 Ай бұрын
I forgot his name was Ford......why..... Totally forgot about the FBI forgetting to pay for gas lol
@bjlanders Ай бұрын
torque was a great show...but it isn't remotely intended to be serious. Like the scene where they have a streetbike fight under a train, and each rider pauses in front of a 20 foot tall soft drink poster.....under a bridge.....That scene is pretty much the metaphor for the whole movie. But, the intro I used to sell tv's and home theatre for several years.
@averagejomo5373 17 күн бұрын
Dropped a like for the Road Rash reference.
@moneycarsguns9837 Ай бұрын
Love this movie. Saw it in theaters. Have it on VHS and DVD.
@narrowistheway77 Ай бұрын
I only recently saw this movie and it’s honestly a pretty good movie. The funniest part was the direct joke on The Fast and the Furious and the movie literally having the same actor who played Vince as the main villain
@elzach0 Ай бұрын
I rented this out as a teenager many times from blockbuster lol
@walterbowman3883 2 ай бұрын
I didn't see torque in theaters I got it on DVD and I could not stop watching it
@BubbBlubbii Ай бұрын
thanks for remembering me, that i watched this movie lmao i miss those times
@nightlyghost Ай бұрын
Average 89-107? Thats super cool compared to Arizona!
@sergioespinoza6511 Ай бұрын
I saw it in theatres and loved it. I was like 15
@nazeebnahas5376 Ай бұрын
I love this movie when I was a kid and still one of my fav!
@lokedistor5860 Ай бұрын
that it was actually cool. Especially back then that tvs weren’t as clear so the visuals were kinda flat and it didn’t look cgi
@rookie2321 Ай бұрын
My first time watching this, but I remember watching this as a kid great movie. Didn’t care didn’t know about critics, blockbuster video stores such as video ezy
@zyberworld 2 ай бұрын
Love this movie and Joseph Khans style. It's looney cartoony action with unique camera transitions. Just supposed to be fun and silly. Have this and Biker Boyz on DVD.
@gamelard1963 Ай бұрын
i only saw this movie once, when i first saw it. as a kid and i thought all the cgi and stunts looked goofy and it made it too funny to take it seriously lol
@TSRR-zs6pf Ай бұрын
Also custom bikes, custom paint, stock pipes. Every motorcycle rider who modifies a street bike changes the pipe 1st.
@somuchforthissleeve Ай бұрын
Torque was a movie my dad was adamant about taking us kids to seeing to just warning to see it but having to haul all 7 of his kids to a theater 😂😂. He was def part of the target demographic so growing up
@caseymoore4759 Ай бұрын
I was so stoked when torque came out because I had a sick moderates type s and the movie starts with a horrible Rsx race scene 😂
@mikebutler6225 2 ай бұрын
Went and watched it opening weekend. Loved it then still love watching it now. I never take what the critics say about any movie. Both torque and biker boyz are just fun movies to watch.
@GUYFROM2047 11 күн бұрын
I used to love that movie tbh and would been a good fast and furious super bike movie too.
@MALUCOZ7Z Ай бұрын
im from Brasil and i see this movie i don't remeber when but was a cool experience
@sumimasenpanda Ай бұрын
the opening scene before the motorcycle appears is better than the whole movie itself
@MrAlexFortis Ай бұрын
It feels like it is "200mph" movie but with big backing, big budget and with motorcycles.
@Mr.T_az Ай бұрын
I'd say biker boyz was more of a true fast n furious style movie, really a underrated movie
@DarkReapersGrim1 13 күн бұрын
I'm sure you're right that the month/year and the advertisement had a lot to do with this film bombing, but I think the reason why Fast & Furious was successful and Torque wasn't is also because of the type of vehicle. Firstly, billions of people drive cars and only a very small fraction ride motorcycles. Cars are more relatable than motorcycles. Secondly, and this I believe is understated, cars are more attractive than motorcycles are, in part because they're not only customizeable, but people can visibly see and show off their vehicles to the public. I'm not saying motorcycles aren't customizeable, of course they are, but it's not as attractive nor as visible to the public.
@andrewsteele9165 Ай бұрын
20 years already!!! It knew what it was, it's fun as hell and more entertaining than anything they crap out these days.
@Dr.Zoidberg087 Ай бұрын
I'm pretty sure this video the reason a downloaded torque to begin with... and it's definitely the reason I'm watching it right now 😂.
@zpe1200 Ай бұрын
still got my bootleg dvd I bought off ebay not long after it was released as wasnt available in my country.
@Dave-mw7gx Ай бұрын
Yo media past time odd question but i swear you made a Harold and Kumar go to white castle review, did that ever happen? Or am i just imagining things? If not you should definitely review the movie.
@MediaPastimes Ай бұрын
You were definitely smoking as much hashish as Harold and Kumar did in those movies (the first two at least), because I never did - LMAO. Maybe one day. I like the first movie a lot.
@Dave-mw7gx Ай бұрын
@@MediaPastimes yeah man recently got it at goodwill and idk where the i saw a review of the movie then. But i could have sworn you had some part of it. Anyways love the videos bro keep them coming.💀
@stratussx Ай бұрын
Never heard of this movie but I did enjoy Biker Boyz and seemed a lot more realistic.
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