We Accidently Kill a Viewer's Impact: Snap On's New Compact vs Matco

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Our live rank list has moved! torquetestchannel.etsy.com Check out our T-shirt Shop: bit.ly/3z98ryF and amazon store (that only includes winners): amzn.to/3rjhZ6P Why the socket size difference? PT338 is a 3/8" impact. We had 3/8" custom sockets made for this huge bolt, they couldn't make us a deep. On these two sockets, the difference is less than 5ft-lbs. As socket size decreases the difference % goes up. We have 2 episodes on it. Also at 2:21 you see a 3/8" anvil swapped compact being dyno'd vs its 1/2" anvil using these two different sockets. So that dyno graph shows the difference.The newest stubby on the market Snap-On's PT338 goes up against Matco's big dog stubby MT2765 to find out who is the big purse powerhouse, with at least one fatality along the way. See if our emergency resuscitation is effective on this weeks impact episode!
Torque of TTC is working for Astro Tools who also make impact wrenches (air). TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
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@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Believe it or not, the socket sizes here make no real difference! See 2:21 for how much this same *3/8" socket vs the 1/2" deep socket* used in this video effects power on the same impact (at this bolt size). Weighted sockets and smaller bolts are a different story of course. Our live ranking list was taken down on us, so its new home is now here: etsy.me/3G8j3QK. Not that you NEED the ranking list, but some people like to have it all in one browsable place. Torque of TTC is working for Astro Tools who also make impact wrenches. TTC is not the only testing out there, always consider multiple sources when looking at a tool!
@aussiehardwood6196
@aussiehardwood6196 2 жыл бұрын
You guys should try to get Facom's Nano impact. It would be interesting as it's well spec'd and we'll regarded by users.
@rednecksdoitbetter491
@rednecksdoitbetter491 2 жыл бұрын
@torque test channel so glad to see you guys back!!!! but I have a interesting question 😅 how many beans do you think my old craftsman 1/2 19.2v CS1131 is pushing now that I’ve adapted a kobalt 24v 4.0Ah battery to it
@_AndromedaGalaxy_
@_AndromedaGalaxy_ 2 жыл бұрын
i dont think you ever tested the 20V 3/4in earthquake from HF. didnt see it in your videos. i realize the 1/2in missed the mark but id like to see the 3/4in tested.
@saucedacarlos91
@saucedacarlos91 2 жыл бұрын
Anvil size might not but socket size, thickness, and weight does. The socket on the snap on is shorter, thinner, lighter. Per impact it bounces back more compared to the heavier 1/2in drive socket that has a much more positive impact.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
@@saucedacarlos91 No one seems to get that the impact at 2:21 's dyno curve is being compared to that same tool with the 1/2" deep impact socket. The same two sockets in this video.
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 2 жыл бұрын
One of the nice things about pneumatic tools is, they all use the same 'battery'. An air hose. You don't need to buy all in on Brand X just because you already bought into the battery's form factor. You just get what ever tool you need, as you need it, based on availability and funds.
@jameshunt2141
@jameshunt2141 2 жыл бұрын
you can get battery adaptors. i have milwaukee and dewalt running off my makita batteries
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 2 жыл бұрын
@@jameshunt2141 true but, that's practical and sensible. The psychological impulse, is to have all the tools in the battery line.
@pflaffik
@pflaffik 2 жыл бұрын
I can see myself requiring air hoses everywhere, and a bunch of 12v compressors to bring around, yeah thats cheaper and just so practical that theres simply no doubt, youre a genius.
@RANDOMNATION907
@RANDOMNATION907 2 жыл бұрын
@@pflaffik ... thanks for the snarky negativity.
@joshuaspencer6246
@joshuaspencer6246 2 жыл бұрын
plus, if you don't use tool very much, no worries if batteries are charged or any good.
@andrewk8636
@andrewk8636 2 жыл бұрын
Hey here's a video idea: test an air impact using smaller 20 gallon compressors as well as pancake and maybe twin tube style compressor with like 5 cfm and see how long they can provide power
@TheJBpics
@TheJBpics 2 жыл бұрын
YES! That would be a nice piece of information. Which size of a compressor can provide enough CFM for a given category of impact wrenches.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
We're working on that. We's need to shlepp our home compressors into work, so yeah not right away lol
@Dansk55
@Dansk55 2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel You guys rock
@andrewk8636
@andrewk8636 2 жыл бұрын
@@TorqueTestChannel thank you! Also please test with cheaper harbor freight guns too cuz some of us are poor lol
@agoogleuser1188
@agoogleuser1188 2 жыл бұрын
@@andrewk8636 the green earthquake one they have
@kswis
@kswis 2 жыл бұрын
That matco stubby is amazing! Good on you guys for doing the right thing. More folks live that way the happier everyone will be
@kswis
@kswis 2 жыл бұрын
Hope snapoff doesn't come crying next. F-em if they do
@LIKEcommentANDsubscribe
@LIKEcommentANDsubscribe 2 жыл бұрын
Disappointed in matco for the quality control oversight, but also proud that it was still more powerful than the more expensive snap-on.
@meme5887
@meme5887 2 жыл бұрын
That's going to happen with anyone. Doesn't matter the brand. Like he said, it's not common nor have they really found anything on it. That single one just happened to be one. Milwaukee, DeWalt, Toyota, Samsung, Apple.. all within the top of their class.. none are perfect.
@jjunderwood4095
@jjunderwood4095 2 жыл бұрын
Ya and the matco is a 1/2 stubby opposed to the snap-on which was 3/8. If you ask me, matco lost big time in that test.
@RangieNZ
@RangieNZ 2 жыл бұрын
It might not have been an oversight. Over a number of hours, the rotor and housing will wear to perfectly match each other. Just like 'running in' a new car.
@mikethetoolman8776
@mikethetoolman8776 2 жыл бұрын
sunex makes it-- matco make no tools at all
@notaskinwalker3566
@notaskinwalker3566 2 жыл бұрын
@@jjunderwood4095 he literally says in the video that anvil size doesn't have a bearing on testing
@haroldbradley2618
@haroldbradley2618 2 жыл бұрын
I haven’t seen many Cornwell tools tested on this channel. I use the older cornwell stubby for everything and it doesn’t disappoint me.
@upnorth5465
@upnorth5465 2 жыл бұрын
I have both and both are great guns. The Matco just has way more rpm (10,000 vs Snap On 8,000) giving it more power. I run 185psi static pressure thru my 3/4" air lines in my shop which makes any air tool a screaming monster.
@Jay_Ira
@Jay_Ira 2 жыл бұрын
Yet another great example of an amazing test. Thanks for your hard work Torque Test Channel. It's nice to see Matco not being a one trick pony with their larger guns. Keep crushing the videos!
@Leonardo-tj6up
@Leonardo-tj6up 2 жыл бұрын
This channel is severely under rated You guys do an amazing job Love this channel keep up the great work
@roylowery1329
@roylowery1329 2 жыл бұрын
They do make a 1/2" drive version of this stubby fellas it's called the PT350 and I have one, and it's a badass.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Oh hey thanks! Didnt see that yet when we were testing these
@FusionKota
@FusionKota 2 жыл бұрын
Its nice to have some reassurance that I bought a very good quality and powerful gun from Matco. It's been putting in work doing rusty shocks on semi tractors since I bought it and was only defeated once by a bolt we had to torch out lol. Honestly a great gun that's worth the price, even more so when it goes on sale!
@gaute6056
@gaute6056 2 жыл бұрын
That Astro Nano is looking better and better. Especially for the price. Could you guys try the Ryobi PBLID02 Impact driver? Would love to see how it stacks up on the ranklist. Great video as always!
@-tr0n
@-tr0n 2 жыл бұрын
It's really really great, other than the volume. It's honestly my go-to impact, been using it as a daily with a swivel for a few years now. Going to be buying another just as a backup in case I can't get a rebuild kit should I need it. I end up using it in all sorts of weird spots where I never would have thought you could fit in impact, so much that the paint is basically completely gone. You can wedge and jam it in anywhere, but it's still go the torque to bust lugnuts all day. I love it for the pump rebuilds I have to do, I'm up on a stand 8 feet in the air so small and light is good, and I have about 30 1/2" bolts to deal with, and a couple 300ft/lb wedge bolts that it zips off every time.
@Starzz62
@Starzz62 2 жыл бұрын
I bought it and there’s no regrets it’s done everything I need. It also busts off lug nuts like no problem
@jamesgeorge4874
@jamesgeorge4874 2 жыл бұрын
there is a reason I have a 2141 3/4 IR impact, a 7748 CP 1/2 inch impact, an IR 2115 3/8 impact, and a Milwaukee 18V Fuel 3/8 cordless. Sometimes, you need more. Sometimes, you need way more. The shop has a 1" D handle 2850 IR for the big boy stuff. Great content, TTC.
@larryl2682
@larryl2682 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve own the snap on 3/8 stubby for over a year now and I will say I’ve noticed a difference of power like you guys said, especially when jumping over to having to use the air compressor in the shop vs. the service trucks compressor
@larryl2682
@larryl2682 2 жыл бұрын
I love it tho I use it more often than ever, it’s helpful when getting between tight spaces it’s price was alittle higher than I would’ve liked but my snap on guy worked out a deal to throw in sockets so it was worth it
@patrick11169
@patrick11169 2 жыл бұрын
I have the old version of that matco gun, can confirm it hits like a freight train despite its tiny size. was using a mac awp050m awhile ago, that thing was nuts, dunno how long it will live but its 1/2 the diameter of the old matco gun and is the fastest impact I've ever used
@jeremypike9153
@jeremypike9153 2 жыл бұрын
I have the same gun great little impact they punch hard. I did have to rebuild mine last year though. The last shop I worked at had a ton of water in the air compressor killed it pretty quick. I've since swapped to using Milwaukee electrics and keep the stubby around for extremely tight areas.
@walkernottexasranger7565
@walkernottexasranger7565 2 жыл бұрын
I've been running the nano professionally for well over a year now. Still going strong! The little guy is hard to beat!
@jeremypike9153
@jeremypike9153 2 жыл бұрын
Astro makes good tools especially for the price of them
@richardorendt6365
@richardorendt6365 Жыл бұрын
I realize this is an old video and this comment probably wont be seen but I work in a heavy diesel fleet shop and have the big brother to the Matco stubby the MT2779 and your results with that gun are astonishing because if it runs the same way as the MT2779 your results in reverse would have been with the gun set to low torque, can't say anything on behalf of the Snap-on because I don't have any Snap-on air guns. But on my MT2779 you have to twist the power dial to the left or "low" when you put it in reverse to get full beans which is counter intuitive as it is not marked on the back of the tool but the difference on my gun in free speed RPM and effect on a rusted up fasteners is night and day. Anyway keep up the good work, always look forward to the videos and its nice having someone give these things an honest test against whatever pie in the sky numbers that a marketing dept wanted to print on a box.
@revnto7k
@revnto7k 2 жыл бұрын
Great video, I have an MT2779 and it works amazingly well. No need for a compact yet but I'd still go Matco if I had to pick...
@ZK-DK
@ZK-DK 2 жыл бұрын
Oh snap! Matco brings the beans. To bad You just have to take it apart and sand it down. Thank you for the extra effort.
@mrb1864
@mrb1864 2 жыл бұрын
That matco is a proper nice ergonomic design as well as internal ability, snap-on really not best place to be buying air tools lol, worst cost outright and for repair, it hits your wallet hard and that about it lol .
@machineryandtools6214
@machineryandtools6214 2 жыл бұрын
You should do a destructive test. Get a 2000 psi cylinder and keep running increased pressure through the gun till the case cracks. I always wondered what is actually too much for an air impact. Formula 1 guns are like 400 PSI.
@YourPalQWERTY
@YourPalQWERTY 2 жыл бұрын
Most of the bigger tools they test are lent to them by other tool KZfaqrs unless they bought the tools (which they do a lot)
@williamthompson1455
@williamthompson1455 Жыл бұрын
​@@YourPalQWERTY plus that is straight up dangerous. And expensive. . . No way is that worth it.
@nickmeistersa123456
@nickmeistersa123456 2 жыл бұрын
Can you do more air powered tools? That's what I use most at my shop. Love your channel!
@z33tanner
@z33tanner 2 жыл бұрын
As much as I love supporting USA made products the Snap on air and electric tools are just too pricey.
@chesterswingjr9796
@chesterswingjr9796 2 жыл бұрын
Hand tools, absolutely. Battery tools, Milwaukee spanks it in EVERY category.
@Alucard-gt1zf
@Alucard-gt1zf 2 жыл бұрын
@@chesterswingjr9796 even hand tools there's a good amount of competition that snap on can't really justify their price The only real place snap on stands out as being the definitive best is their tool boxes
@chesterswingjr9796
@chesterswingjr9796 2 жыл бұрын
@@Alucard-gt1zf - Yep. I’ve got a $180 dollar + Snap-on 3/8” locking flex head ratchet that I don’t use as often as my Harbor Freight ratchet, and it’s been rebuilt twice, and is broken AGAIN!!! My Harbor Freight, Husky, and Gearwrench ratchets haven’t let me down yet, I’ve used 3ft pipes on my Harbor Freight breaker bar, and it’s still going strong!!! My snap-on ratchet has been pretty much babied, and it STILL breaks!!!
@z33tanner
@z33tanner 2 жыл бұрын
@@chesterswingjr9796 Funny I've had this same exact experience with Matco ratchets breaking on me at work after being babied (never hammered or cheater piped) broken 4 pawls in 10 months, unacceptable. I've hammered and cheater piped my Gearwrench ratchets many times over many years never broke one! And when it comes to boxes, my Gearwrench 72" x 25" box was an amazing deal for $3k. Thicker gauge steel than entry level tool truck boxes, double slide drawers with 300lb capacity, and a very nice rocking handle desgin that i like much better than snap on's loose plastic handles. Made in Taiwan, yes, but you can't get this much box from a tool truck for even 8k..
@chesterswingjr9796
@chesterswingjr9796 2 жыл бұрын
@@z33tanner - That’s funny you say that, because one of my BRAND NEW Matco ratchets broke the first time I used it!!! Snap ring popped out, and the paw, and gears went flying across the floor. I just went to loosen a bolt, no cheater bar, just a regular fastener. The replacement has worked fine, but now I’m scared to actually use it!!! I did buy the 44” US General lime green box. I got lucky, and my store had a open box model for $399, so I got a good deal. I’ve had nice Matco, Snap-on boxes in the past, and while they’re great, quality boxes, I can’t justify the price at close to retirement age!!! 😂
@williamapplegate3813
@williamapplegate3813 2 жыл бұрын
We need to see the cornwell impacts soon!
@mikethetoolman8776
@mikethetoolman8776 2 жыл бұрын
all ingersol made usually
@frankthespank
@frankthespank 2 жыл бұрын
I love it when the cheaper tool beats the more expensive tool 😎
@christopherlastname7638
@christopherlastname7638 Жыл бұрын
How much did it cost if they add in the repair! I had the same problem with my matco impact! It’s junk if i can’t do my job!
@GGundamBlue
@GGundamBlue 2 жыл бұрын
I own the Matco one and love it my 1/2 impact is a snap on due to comfort not power
@wallyhare8616
@wallyhare8616 2 жыл бұрын
i have the matco for a few years now. if im not mistaken i got it live on koons channel. regardless it let me down for the first time this past week during a engine over haul. i would pull the trigger and it would hammer once and then just lock up and hissss at me. i oil it often and i have a grease gun that i use on it..... well i got mad and opened it up and noticed all it was was the hammer was dry. i took the hammer and the cover and cleaned it and greased and finished my overhaul with no more issues.
@outdoorsliving464
@outdoorsliving464 2 жыл бұрын
A "tip" I'll tell you about the Snap On PT338 and PT350. The motor cylinder has a screw that attaches it to the rear motor plate. This screw comes loose and the tool loses power very quickly. Dab a little lock tight on the screw and torque to about 8-10 inch pounds and the tool will run the way it was ment to run.
@dylanlegge7287
@dylanlegge7287 2 жыл бұрын
you should put the CP 7732C compact 1/2" impact in to the mix, great little gun would like to see how it really fairs up against the big brands along side of the rest of the competitors!
@noclass2gun342
@noclass2gun342 2 жыл бұрын
I have the pt338 and it's definitely an air hog... snap on even tells you it requires high flow fittings. But for a 3/8 gun it's definitely a monster
@Truckmechanic949
@Truckmechanic949 2 жыл бұрын
Ive got the blue point stuby in 1/2 use it for caliper bolts all the time and and other places the bigger impacts don't fit handy for manifold bolts to even taken out frame crossmember bolts when I had to drop a fuel tank on a E450
@arturomukul2677
@arturomukul2677 2 жыл бұрын
Hey ttc these are great videos that i enjoy watching. For another compact air impact wrench battle i would like to see the mac mini impact to see how it stands out to these others.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Ok will do
@BigRedtheGinger
@BigRedtheGinger 2 жыл бұрын
Well, once I pay off my current Matco bill, I may look into getting this Matco gun in Orange.
@Stefan_Kawalec
@Stefan_Kawalec 2 жыл бұрын
I like that menacing presence of Makita among the air tools.
@stevendobbs7318
@stevendobbs7318 2 жыл бұрын
Great runs but I’m still loving my Aircat 1056 XL. Especially for the price.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
100%
@linvillehendrix7516
@linvillehendrix7516 2 жыл бұрын
Snap-on makes a 1/2 drive stubby impact on the website you have to go to the 1/2 section and scroll down to the bottom
@frederikhebert7791
@frederikhebert7791 2 жыл бұрын
I had the exact same issue with my matco stubby !
@Krankie_V
@Krankie_V 2 жыл бұрын
I've got a stubby 3/8 from Mac tools. It's pretty good, gives the Snap-on MG325 a run for its money, subjectively speaking. If I end up buying another stubby, it will be from matco.
@2down4up
@2down4up 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve worked in 3 automotive shops and all of them ran air pressure between 150-175 psi. I’ve got a gauge on the inlet side of one of my air tools and this 150-175psi was the actual line pressure at the tool connection while the tool was in use. Aside from body shops I’m curious how many shops actually run such a relatively low pressure.
@mike89box
@mike89box 2 жыл бұрын
Try the Paoli DP 1050 Really nice gun . Thanks for your videos they are all amazing .
@ajwash3247
@ajwash3247 Жыл бұрын
Got a matco 3/8 stubby and man it works better than everyone else’s 3/8 guns in the whole shop
@AdriftAndAtPeace323
@AdriftAndAtPeace323 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve actually heard a lot of real world issues with those new PTP Matco stubby impacts. A lot more so with the direction buttons blowing off
@BlindBatG34
@BlindBatG34 2 жыл бұрын
I just picked up the SnapOn brushless CT861 3/8 impact. Would you like me to send it in to dance with the dyno?
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
We have someone in line for that currently, thanks!
@BlindBatG34
@BlindBatG34 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Fantastic review by the way.
@frontspring1
@frontspring1 2 жыл бұрын
@@BlindBatG34 send it to me I'll throw it in the lake and buy a milwaukee.
@TheBootyWrangler
@TheBootyWrangler 2 жыл бұрын
@@frontspring1 why not sell it and buy a Milwaukee instead
@frontspring1
@frontspring1 2 жыл бұрын
@@TheBootyWrangler I can't sell junk
@varmint243davev7
@varmint243davev7 2 жыл бұрын
Thank You !
@tammyshellikoff3482
@tammyshellikoff3482 2 жыл бұрын
Thank you for the video
@keulek
@keulek 2 жыл бұрын
I would really like to see the Facom Stubby line of Impacts. I have a 1/2" Stubby and it is absolutely impressive!
@mikethetoolman8776
@mikethetoolman8776 2 жыл бұрын
looks like an aircat impact
@JCWren
@JCWren 2 жыл бұрын
How much effect does the different mass of the sockets have on the numbers?
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
On these two sockets, less than 5ft-lbs. As socket size decreases the difference % goes up. We have 2 episodes on it. Also at 2:21 you see a 3/8" anvil swapped compact being dyno'd vs its 1/2" anvil using these two different sockets. So that dyno graph shows the difference.
@cortezaz
@cortezaz 2 жыл бұрын
You read my mind. How fair of a comparison if not running same socket and now who knows what pressure🤔
@leonlemgruber2119
@leonlemgruber2119 2 жыл бұрын
Thanks for have figure out what was wrong with the impact gun. Know that something is broken and I don’t know why really bother me. Hahaha
@alexhise968
@alexhise968 2 жыл бұрын
I've had the matco stubby for a while now my purchase was $400 but came with a set of stubby sockets and no issues with it
@theawesomeguy9999
@theawesomeguy9999 2 жыл бұрын
I've been loving my Astro Nano, these results are very validating. Also is still shorter than the tool truck brands
@saulgood6190
@saulgood6190 2 жыл бұрын
Does it need alot of cfm to work hard?
@theawesomeguy9999
@theawesomeguy9999 2 жыл бұрын
@@saulgood6190 I work in a shop with a large air compressor so I'm not exactly sure, but I do know it doesn't eat near as much air up as something larger. I can do probably 2x work with it before the compressor kicks on compared to my earthquake XT. It definitely likes higher pressure though, went from 90 to 120 and it feels better
@orijimi
@orijimi 2 жыл бұрын
I hope Matco hears about this.
@JMatt1
@JMatt1 2 жыл бұрын
You should test the sunex SXMC12 and maybe their full size one too. My sxmc12 has pulled crank bolts out my mg725 couldn't and I also have the 3/8 drive Matco of the one in the vid, and the sunex definitely has more beans than that
@mikev7987
@mikev7987 2 жыл бұрын
You guys ever consider testing out hose sizes on the dyno? 1/2” vs 3/8 vs 1/4? Obviously all the corresponding fittings.
@jozsefizsak
@jozsefizsak 2 жыл бұрын
Fascinating!
@89vette89
@89vette89 Жыл бұрын
Funny enough I also had issues with my matco stubby, I ended up trading it in for a PT338 and I’m a lot happier with it
@mosewalton6156
@mosewalton6156 2 жыл бұрын
Got the Matco gun Man the same green that bad boy is truly the best stubby air impact gun for the money only problem is the quality control I had to send mines out as well but that’s probably because I got it when it first came out hopefully they got there tolerances down better because man oh man. Only other problem is that little gun screams in the shop lmao
@is_michael_is_michael1590
@is_michael_is_michael1590 2 жыл бұрын
It would be cool if you tested Milwaukee one key line see if you set there custom torque figures if they stay consistent between runs/different batteries/batteries level and even if you used a high torque set down to 300 foot pounds compared to a mid torque/stubby set yo 300 foot pounds see how close they compare on the dino
@jasontompkins4341
@jasontompkins4341 Жыл бұрын
I've got the ingersal 1/2 air impact it's a beast but I've been debating for a long time getting the stubby compact and have strongly debated earthquake matco or of course snap on
@Iowa599
@Iowa599 2 жыл бұрын
I wonder if you'll see any improvements after "break-in", and the vanes get "set" to the housing?
@anthonypoltes7413
@anthonypoltes7413 2 жыл бұрын
I definitely noticed a smell but never smoking with my matco stubby, I may be over oiling though
@BMikeAD
@BMikeAD 2 жыл бұрын
You guys try an aircat 1077 stubby yet? I've been running that one for 3 years now. Barely ever take out my 1/2" gun. Usually go straight to the 3/4" or a torch if the stubby won't do it.
@corykennedy1043
@corykennedy1043 2 жыл бұрын
New to the channel. I'm enjoying it. Maybe a question and answer that has been discussed, but the readings are from a clamp force test. I get that a torque test instrument/dyno is expensive and useful for nothing else. But a torque test measures rotational force. Your clamping force on load cells has losses in the stretch and vibration of the bolt and friction loss in the 90° directional change and drag between the threads of the bolt and plate. Roughly a 20-25% loss. Your test is very applicable and more cost effective to build. Might help people understand the guns are actually more powerful than the clamp reading. Sorry if already discussed.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
All of that becomes irrelevant once calibrated with a coefficient. Once a known value makes a known value everything is good to go. See episode one. Being repeatable is all that's needed. These guns aren't rated for rotation torque. They are rated for bolt tightness. Not like an engine.
@25centsapop
@25centsapop 2 жыл бұрын
Would love to see Macs Mini tested against this! I'll have to send you one if I can get the address for it's arrival!
@willyck948
@willyck948 2 жыл бұрын
I guess I'll stick with my Ingersoll 35QMAX compact impact been working good and I pull out the 3/4" 40v makita for the beans I'd be lost without your compassion channel🤘
@disgruntledegghead6923
@disgruntledegghead6923 2 жыл бұрын
It's always interesting to see what these new stubbies are capable of. It's also interesting to see that Astro is repairing Matco impacts too. My old Matco AI150 decided it wants to run without squeezing the trigger, and my Matco distributor said a minimum of over two hundred bucks and a $95hr labor rate. It's been a good impact for the last twenty years, but damn! Perhaps you guys could give us some insight on how to fix this problem? I'd hate to just throw it away and buy another Astro, if I can get my hands on one anyways...
@LorandHungary
@LorandHungary 2 жыл бұрын
Imo there are 4 possibilities. 1. The trigger gets stuck in a pushed in position , most of the times it's caused by grime , dust and other things getting in the trigger. 2. The opening mechanism itself got stuck in the open position from grime.... 3. Something mechanical broke which should stop the air from going into the impact. 4. The trigger itself broke So easiest thing to try would be to take it apart and try cleaning it You are gonna have to take it apart either way , so while it's taken apart , check parts for any damage which may cause it to not shut off.
@disgruntledegghead6923
@disgruntledegghead6923 2 жыл бұрын
@@LorandHungary I already pulled it apart, and the delrin like seat has a chunk missing. I'd be more than happy to replace that valve seat, but it seems to be made of unobtanium. Just like the info on how to do it.
@kb01663
@kb01663 Жыл бұрын
i'm telling the astro pneumatic stubby is the way to go. Even being the smallest, it still can't get anywhere. And it can break loose crank bolts and axle nuts.
@andrewfritz5123
@andrewfritz5123 2 жыл бұрын
Can u test the Mac tools 1/2” mini air impact AWP050M. A buddy of mine has it and that thing blows my mind every time it rips off rusted airbag mounting bolts and shock bolts.
@JimmyMakingitwork
@JimmyMakingitwork 2 жыл бұрын
I'll keep my IR stubby that cost $179 and works great for almost any job that isn't crazy tight. My IR Titanium comes out for those jobs. Did I mention I sold off all my Snap On air and electric tools? ;)
@nibotkram7743
@nibotkram7743 Жыл бұрын
The Snapon will develop more power over time as the air vanes seat in and allow less air to bypass. This is because they use a resin coating in the vane construction that gives the air motor longevity and durability.
@roylowery1329
@roylowery1329 2 жыл бұрын
Yall kept saying pt650 it was the pt850. Just saying! Love you guys!
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Oh wow, and I didn't even catch this until now. Haha, you're 100% spot on
@jonathansherwood5841
@jonathansherwood5841 2 жыл бұрын
"Accidently"...yeah, we'll go with that! 😂😂
@chaolee3605
@chaolee3605 2 жыл бұрын
I’d love to see a test with sockets like the Lyles Honda Harmonic Balancer Socket. This socket is proven to break loose the harmonic bolt vs traditional sockets the same size.
@legros731
@legros731 2 жыл бұрын
If a recall correctly it already did this test and was surprised by the results It work great on smaller fastener but at this size bolt it doesn't really make a difference Watch back at the 2min20 sec in the video he show the astro nano wit both the long socket and the shallow socket and it made no difference
@joemunk
@joemunk Жыл бұрын
I have a decade old AWP050 compact. Can you break that one and send it back better than ever? I love that thing. 😁
@crnkin2
@crnkin2 2 жыл бұрын
"Less buggered screws" - I had to listen three times to make sure it wasn't my kiwi as dad narrating
@shanerorko8076
@shanerorko8076 2 жыл бұрын
I have the 3/8" MG gun I think it's the MG325 from Snap-on and I kept on sending it back as it was gutless in forward. I got into an argument with my dealer saying they should port it. The forward reverse bias on Snap-on tools is anoying so I don't buy them.
@LYC_44
@LYC_44 2 жыл бұрын
I have a future video idea. Testing the strength and accuracy of impact torque sticks?
@Chippy569
@Chippy569 2 жыл бұрын
I asked about that like 2-3 weeks ago, they said there's some content involving torque sticks in the works.
@TurboTyTy
@TurboTyTy 2 жыл бұрын
I’m currently testing the Matco. Very good information here.
@mr.appalachian8252
@mr.appalachian8252 2 жыл бұрын
I’ve had a 3/8 Air Cat impact made in America for about 7 years, it’s a phenomenal impact, I wouldn’t take 2 Snap Ons for it
@Q12366
@Q12366 2 жыл бұрын
I have and use the matco on the daily. Worth every penny
@junkyota
@junkyota 2 жыл бұрын
Ive personally seen 4 of those matcos break, not surprised
@johnasosajr
@johnasosajr 2 жыл бұрын
I have an older earthquake 1/2 3/8 and 3/8 ratchet I picked up all 3 for 100 bucks brand new and have been using them ever since with no complaints except the 1/2 doesn’t hold the sockets anymore but I’m to lazy to fix it
@Joe___R
@Joe___R 2 жыл бұрын
Snap-on air tools are psi whors but since shops regularly run at 150-180 psi it isn't really a problem. Air tools should be designed to run best at shop pressure if they are made for professionals interested of DIYers.
@999999dirtrider
@999999dirtrider 2 жыл бұрын
they do make the snap on stubby in 1/2. i got mine several months ago
@meme5887
@meme5887 2 жыл бұрын
@Torque Test Channel. You guys should build (or order) 2 custom rotors. One aluminum and one lead (or iron). Just because 😂. Also, you should drill a whistle into a rotor like the nerf vortex. Make that baby whistle real good haha.
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
The rotor's end shaft is what drives the hammer case, aluminum and lead would turn into easy cheese very quick! And cast iron would fracture
@blakebob2697
@blakebob2697 2 жыл бұрын
I would love to see butterfly air impact
@GTRliffe
@GTRliffe Жыл бұрын
the low-end in the snapon makes it the better tool like turbo engines, torque overpowers many others with more power
@CrkdFngrGngrBndt
@CrkdFngrGngrBndt 2 жыл бұрын
Some of the Matco guys I’ve hear say turn the dial down in reverse and it makes more power somehow, doesn’t make sense but wonder if that can be tested
@legros731
@legros731 2 жыл бұрын
Possible maybe the dial go to far and go pass the edge of the hole effectively reducing the air flow volume So it's bad tolerance or sloppy manufacturing
@aaronpantell1038
@aaronpantell1038 2 жыл бұрын
Great video,since you work for astro had you heard of any matco guns comming in for that problem before this video or was this a first?
@TorqueTestChannel
@TorqueTestChannel 2 жыл бұрын
Astro doesnt make this gun, so they wouldn't be the MAIN repair center for it. But no, all the stubby Matco guns they've seen are for traditional reasons. Some of them needing a tune up for more power, but not like killing itself due to friction like this one.
@lightesthook031
@lightesthook031 2 жыл бұрын
Need to test the ir stubby 3/8
@randr10
@randr10 10 ай бұрын
I had a thought while watching this about the Snap-On tool. I'm wondering if the increase in number of vanes causes an effect that looks similar to a lower displacement engine because the distance between vanes is smaller. That would explain why they went with a larger diameter rotor if true. They would do that to compensate for the lower torque from this design by increasing the diameter at which the torque is applied. Honestly I don't understand what the thought process was from an engineering standpoint on this design because it's clearly starving for air at normal lower pressures. I guess like with a high revving, low displacement engine, you could get the same results with gearing it properly, but the problem with that is that these air tools don't have any gearsets like the cordless tools do. Weird that they did this.
@gmills5763
@gmills5763 2 жыл бұрын
Best channel on KZfaq 👍
@wrenchtheroo6557
@wrenchtheroo6557 2 жыл бұрын
I would be curious to see the Mac Tools AWP050M performance on the dyno
@jameshowey7102
@jameshowey7102 2 жыл бұрын
Are you going to test the Mac stubby? I have one I could probably send in.
@theblinkstykrab3106
@theblinkstykrab3106 2 жыл бұрын
I'm so high watching this it took me half way into the video to realize he was talking about air impacts and not electric ones 🤣🤣
@EXwifeKILLER
@EXwifeKILLER 2 жыл бұрын
Seeing this video I now know what may be wrong with the used mt2779 i bought. Believe its a rotor fitment issue
@alexhise968
@alexhise968 2 жыл бұрын
Waiting to see someone Chicago Pneumatic products
@emmanuelencarnacion8219
@emmanuelencarnacion8219 2 жыл бұрын
Snap on Offers a stubby 1/2 impact, was released on Jan 07 2022!
@remington1148
@remington1148 2 жыл бұрын
You need to add the Mac AWP050M or AWP038M to the list.
@scottberreth8159
@scottberreth8159 5 ай бұрын
My matco stubby has the same problem smells like it’s burning when used and seems to bog a lot, going to talk to my matco dealer about it
@terryeffinp
@terryeffinp 3 ай бұрын
At our shop we run our air at 180 psig. I would like to see how these do at this kind of pressure.
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