That's a bit of a misconception with our graphs. We're tightening, so building tension in the bolt which is translated to power by the gauge. Nearly every tool we test is going to be best at 15 seconds, because it's building tension for 15 seconds like a skidmore. But a tight bolt that starts out at a high torque level is not like that. What should be looked at on the graph is what torque levels each tool has an advantage. On a 450ft-lb bolt (or equivalent to this machine), the Makita will take it off faster overall. A 150-250 ft-lbs bolt the M18 may likely take it off faster due to battery communication and impacts per minute we assume.

The Milwaukee guy will also get a new tool sooner. My experience is that faster, stronger, lighter, smaller etc not always mean better in a long run....

Can't forgot how much smaller the milwaukee is too, for how close it is I'm still impressed how well the milwaukee kept up to that chunky unit

@@TorqueTestChannel Isn't that the point though? Mid torque... All the bolts you target with a mid would be at the 150-250 range. The Makita is saying I'm good at the super strong bolts, but am a mid torque. It's seems like your using a sledge hammer instead of a roofing hammer to pound in nails. Same result, just not the right tool for the job.

Will the Milwaukee charge 2 of the 5a 18 volt batteries in 45 min or less and play a tune to let you know they’re charged?

That's what no one can test... reliability in the field. No one can touch Makita except Hilti in some cases... at a lot more cost

@@travisjazzbo3490 Hilti is kind of like Benchmade knives. You're paying for the warranty in the initial purchase price

Nah, Mikita doesn’t survive in my plumbing world. Dewalt never did, those tools are for builders in the drill/driver/impact driver departments. I use dewalt breaker/hammer drills on mains electric, broken multiple dewalt grinders, so stopped buying them years ago...Mikita saws reciprocating,jigsaw be ok (but I got the Milwaukee, non D grip), and circular saws, Milwaukee for hand drills, grinders, but I will add the Bosch blue gets an honourable mention.

@b gg I had to decide between Makita and Milwaukee when I forst dtarted out buying battery powered tools two years ago. If Milwaukee weren‘t that ridiculously expensive where I live I probably would habe gone for that, but for now it,s Makita. My 12V tools might be Milwaukee though.

Plus Makita isn't owned by a Chinese conglomerate like DeWalt and Milwaukee.

I agree. That extra oomph in the first 5 seconds is more important than hammering for 10+ seconds to make power

It's important to remember our graph is a bit backwards to what you might assume. The M18 has an advantage in those early stages AT those torque/resistance levels. At the equivalent to those 200-300 ft-lbs fasteners, the M18 would take them off faster. But the Makita, having more power when the resistance is higher at 500 ft-lbs ect will then take it off faster all things being equal. Because you meet that 500 ftlbs of resistance from second 1 when removing unlike this rig.

@@TorqueTestChannel that is very true. Thank you for the insight and perspective 👍🏻

Project farm! That's the best ;)

Yeah, longevity. Milwaukee fails there too

Milwaukee is just the best in all areas. Best to just accept it and move on ;-)

@@89dhvac except build quality, and long-term use...

@@danielware4316 I was originally being facetious, but since you mention it, in my experience they really are tip top in terms of build quality and long term use. :-) ymmv of course

@@89dhvac tear both apart, and look at the internals. It talks for itself

I agree completely. The db produced is a factor when choosing a daily impact. In fact my daily was chosen not for power but for weight and noise produced, since that isn't something that can be worked around.

Milwaukee kicks its booty

Do you have a conversion table for the model numbers? What's the XWT19XVZ called in Europe?

Bosch seems to either hit the nail on the head or miss by miles nowadays. I wouldn't be interested in buying their stuff new anymore it's not really worth the risk

@@georgecroney6168 I have never had any issues with any of their tools. Sure, they're generally not the fastest or most powerful, but I find they always get the job done, and are super reliable.

Late reply but I have the same impact that chuck isn’t good for taking off say lug nuts or sprockets they can torque down good but not reverse they can handle max about 100 ft pound

Spoiler, the IR slaps

Milwaukee is a better brand though

Hell no milwaukees dont last as long and I got em both

@@bigboy815s agree,and I own both.

@@operator8014 I own both .

We're really liking it

@@TorqueTestChannel You're like a mind reader. The next thing I want to buy is IR 2235

Okay we'll do that!

Watched another video about this subject and it was more the weight of the socket that made a difference. Even in 1/2" the heavier socket made a difference.

Yea the socket weight has a big difference. Example... thick, Honda 3.5 L crank bolt socket, from snap on makes all the difference in getting the crank bolt loose.

That's what bk did. They let mcd do all marketing legwork then copy them.

I doubt it would make a lot of difference, theres no voltage conversion so no inner electronics, right? Seems it would come down to the quality of its inner conductors and the integrity of connection at the contacts. Im sure a really sketchy company could screw those things up but if its well made it should add negligible resistance which would be the only way it would affect output. Im sure you know all this I would just suppose theres so many no name items like that sold it would be difficult to reliably test them. No reputable name products like that with reliable quality control exist because theyre stepping on the legit manufacturers toes by even being made in the first place. Which I guess is why you cant just walk into home depot or lowes and buy them. I mean can you imagine the makita factory rep walks into home depot and sees an adaptor allowing milwaukee batteries to be used instead of theirs. Replacement batteries are a cash cow for these companies. Depot wants 229 for a 2 pack of 5ah lxts. Yet the same pair with a dual charger and their big lxt x2 leaf blower is 279 for the kit. Doesnt add up at all

It sounds good in principal till you use these tools. The all jumble around differently. Makita pops back at you, Milwaukee is like a box of rocks, flex rotates about the axis

Are you looking at getting one?

@@FordRanchero289 Got one already. Haven't really put it to the test yet. It's my first 1/2" drive cordless impact, so my hopes are high

@@andrewmacleod620 my only suggestion is don't use it for lug nuts all day every day. It'll zip them off but the hammer and anvil really take a beating. They also die from overheating, thats what my first one did. I love my 894, I use it for suspension and 3 jaw pullers and all kinds of stuff but I did just invest in the 899 just to take a load off the 894. Also looking to get the 901 as I do have a few 12v tools too. But yeah, the 894 is a bad ass but don't expect it to be a high torque and it'll last you a long time

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That really was one of Metabo’s few impressive efforts in recent years. And I agree, they have a history of underrating certain things. Oddly, I’ve found them to overrate their drills.

Guys at work warranty them out, they come back with a new clamshell as well as a new motor. I was extremely impressed

Never seen or heard of this issue before. Interesting.

Not a problem in 10 years of m18. Different story on my m12.