Yup, and it's so well crafted, that decades later, I still can't find any definitive proof for any which option. It's truly a their is no right/wrong answer, yet they are both right (and wrong).

@@sophiamarchildon3998 -- There is a musical cue which COULD be taken as proof or an answer.. As the camera is panning up and going to white-out on the final scene, the "dream" theme is playing.

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I came to the comments to write that exact same thing. 👍🏽

One of Jen's greatest lines ever.

I think that's pretty good advice.

@@shallowgal462 You're right. He was checking for writing style, but it was her name.

You also kinda have to watch Basic Instinct and Showgirls... but for different reasons...

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Robocop was great, but Starship Troopers was a travesty. A complete desecration of Robert Heinlein's novel.

Starship Troopers ONLY if you've not read the book. Having read the book, for me the movie was a tremendous disappointment.

@@44excalibur Yeah. Even worse, Verhoeven did that on purpose. He thought Heinlein was a fascist (100% wrong) and deliberately shat on his work. Much like Amazon will do with Tolkien, I think.

He had nine kids to feed.

take um to the dentist

What happened to number 5 ?

@@hasinurrahman4952 Ahh, you got me.

@@John_Locke_108 15 and it was great!

@@jamminjohn I was 23 & I loved it!

I saw it in 1992 at age 20. I explained my theory about action movies to my friend: first you develop a hatred for the bad guys by seeing them hurt or kill innocent people. Then it’s very satisfying when the bad guys who you hate so much get killed. My friend kept saying “I hope nothing happens to Benny!” Then after Benny betrays them he kept saying “I hope Benny gets killed! Then he drank too much and was lying on the sofa with his eyes closed and when the next action scene started he just said “I hear violence!” Good times.

@Martin Braun Same, watched it with some friend's on my 12th birthday.

The Howling, American Werewolf in London.

American Werewolf is on my Patreon 👍

Verhoeven confirmed that both conclusions are integrally true. He said the movie was made like a Möbius strip: both realities exist on the same pane of existence, both versions are true without contradicting the other.

There are some movies which fail at expressing completely which is the actual truth, like American Psycho or Fight Club, movies who do have a truth. However, this movie was always meant to be recursive with both ideas being equally valid. Really cool concept honestly.

But it can't be "part and part". It's either a dream, or it's real. Mars either gets an atmosphere, or Quaid is severely brain-damaged in that chair. There may be equal evidence for either conclusion, but that's very different from both conclusions being able to co-exist.

@@fatkart7641 Do you have a source for that quote? I found one of Verhoeven saying that both versions are true, but I don't know if he's making the point you're attributing to him, or if it's valid even if he is. Saying both versions are *equally* true in terms of supporting evidence is one thing, but saying they can co-exist is quite another. It's kinda Schrodinger's Cat, though he actually created that as thought experiment to *mock* the concept of "superpositions"; if we don't know which version is true, there's a sense in which they can both be true, or at least equally true, but only to the best of our knowledge. But, since we're not quantum-scale creatures, the cat in that box is definitely either alive *or* dead, whether we know it or not. In the same way, Quaid's either in the chair or on Mars; he can't be in both places at once. That we don't know which it is leaves both possibilities open to us, the audience, but it certainly doesn't mean both contradictory possibilities can exist at the same time. I think we may be conflating discussions in a narrative sense with discussions in a realistic sense.

@@michaelccozens Get over it, both interpretations contradict each other and both are 'confirmed' as well.

Thanks Shaine!

@@jenmurrayxo Sydney Jay Mead was an American industrial designer and neo-futurist concept artist, widely known for his designs for science-fiction films such as Blade Runner, Aliens and Tron.

I think you mean highest grossing independent film based on your comparison of cost to ticket sales, and no it was not. “Night of the Living Dead” was made for $114,000 and grossed more than $200 million. “The Texas Chain Saw Massacre” was made for $140,000 and grossed almost $130 million. “The Blair Witch Project” had a budget of $600,000 (tiny when adjusted for inflation) and made a whopping $450 million. Occasionally, there are also films with big budgets and big stars that qualify as independent. "Empire Strikes Back" was not a Fox studio film it was Lucasfilm and distributed by FOX, so was “Pulp Fiction,” “Kill Bill” films and “Inglorious Basterds." But the highest-grossing independent film of all time is “The Passion of the Christ,” with a gross of almost $1 billion. EDIT: But if you did mean most expensive then TR is probably tops, but it's budget was only 65M.

Budget was $65 million

He could just as easily be dreaming those conversations too. We have no idea how extensive Recall's implant really is.

​@@MoMoMyPup10 in the world of the movie it seems that when you go to Recall you want to have imagined that you were actually there actually doing it, so I would think that implanted memories of other people talking when you weren't there would break the immersion.

There was still Independence Day in 1996 and Titanic in 1997. And the Lord of the Rings trilogy.

Star Wars I’m the 2000’s used a big model for the Genosis scene and others I can’t remember

@@tremorsfan Those relied mostly on CGI. Large -scale use of miniature effects refers to both the sheer number and the actual size of those used in Total Recall. The film was made at the onset of computer-generated imagery (CGI), which was not a suitable option for photorealistic or textured imagery in Total Recall. The movies you mention relied mostly on CGI. Total Recall featured thirty-five sets across eight of Estudios Churubusco's soundstages. The sets were expansive and connected by tunnels so long that they continued outside of the stage, making it possible to drive between them on film. Expansive locations, including Martian exteriors, were created using miniature sets produced by Stetson Visual Services in Los Angeles, and supervised by Mark Stetson and Robert Spurlock. The sets were large, with the alien reactor being among the largest and most complex sets ever constructed in cinema, and the largest set built for the film.

@@brianwoodbridge88 Many films after Total Recall still use models and miniatures but they rely mainly on CGI. Star Wars and others did not use models and miniatures on a grand scale like Total Recall did. The film was made at the onset of computer-generated imagery (CGI), which was not a suitable option for photorealistic or textured imagery in Total Recall. Total Recall featured thirty-five sets across eight of Estudios Churubusco's soundstages. The sets were expansive and connected by tunnels so long that they continued outside of the stage, making it possible to drive between them on film. Expansive locations, including Martian exteriors, were created using miniature sets produced by Stetson Visual Services in Los Angeles, and supervised by Mark Stetson and Robert Spurlock. The sets were large, with the alien reactor being among the largest and most complex sets ever constructed in cinema, and the largest set built for the film.

I could be wrong, but I thought I heard/read somewhere that the X-ray scanner scenes were animated. edit - as in by hand, not by computer

But how to explain the dreams of Melina on Mars before we see him going to Total Recall?

Than why do you have scenes that don't have Quaid in it?

@@berlinkozyreva we’re seeing what his imagination is showing him

@@gumbomudderx7503 we are? So he saw in his head Lori make phone call while he went to bathroom? Than why was he surprised when she started shooting at him? Think about it it makes no sense to be dream unless movie was his and only his perspective.

Yeah, if his implanted ego trip was that close to his actual life it would really mess him up afterwards and make him doubt his real life. That's why I think that the real Doug Quaid wouldn't look like Arnold, or have a life anything like the Recall version of him. The plot of his trip is also so unrealistic there would be no way he would confuse it with reality afterwards. If it actually was possible to do, I think Recall would have to do it this way to prevent mental/emotional problems afterwards. I think the movie would have to be only his complete Ego trip, from start to finish.

True, but I think the implication is that, if it is a dream and Quaid accepts the memory implant as reality, he's voluntarily lobotomizing himself/losing his mind. In any case, he's not going back.

If it is an implant he is never going to wake up again. Thats what the Dr. warned him of and the friend beforehand. In the "real world" his friends and wife are mourning his lobotomized comatose body as he is trapped in his own head till they take him off life support and he expires.

@@mokane86 The whole "lobotomy" bit was part of the Recall vacation fantasy. It's as real as making Mars blue in a few minutes. Doug's fine after he wakes up.

@@briannicusrex5397 Sorry for being late, but an excellent point you made: If Rekall wants to make the memory of the imaginary trip realistic, the "Ego Trip" part has to be fully resolved in the implanted story, as in bringing the person back to who it is before the story ends. While not mentioned but suggested or implied, if the story was indeed an implanted memory, Quaid would surely have ended up lobotomized in a vegetative state. This might be controversial: Quaid, as played by Colin Farrell in the much maligned remake could well be much closer to Dick's idea of him.

@@putinscat1208 I was thinking the same thing, lol! I actually feel that, aside from Broderick, all of those actors could’ve done a great job with the script, but Arnold brings that certain something extra though.

Being paranoid & schizophrenic mixed with doing drugs at the same time can't be good either.

Not sure I would say minority report was a great film. This was written in the 60's, but of course whatever the novel might have been about is washed away by explosions 😄

@@Cheepchipsable Nope, not great. But better than some of the competition.

@@Cheepchipsable Someone didn't watch the film. Don't think there was a single explosion in that movie. Also, it was a fantastic film that really captured the drama of what a world with a Pre-Crime division of police would look like. And the fictional tech used in that movie by Industrial Light and Magic went on to make it's way into other movies they made like Iron Man. It was among the highest grossing movies of 2002, earned critical praise, and, more than a decade later, inspired a TV series of the same name that was cancelled after its first season.

​@@Cheepchipsable it was a short story. Any explosions you remember, are in your dreams.

It's on Jen's channel now. 👍

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Bladerunner was a great film in it's own right, but way different to the novel.

Sharon was in a few movies before this, just didn't hit it big. I remember seeing King Solomon's Mines and she was in it.

Phillip K. Dick wrote a ton of short stories for magazine publication. He also wrote quite a few novels as well. Using a short story to make a movie is so much better than trying to squeeze a full novel into 90 minutes of film. It's more true to the story and more respectful to the author. His stories inspired a lot of films like this one and Blade Runner, Minority Report and a bunch of others. the BBC did a series of 10 one hour films based on his stories...Electric Dreams.

Philip K. Dick was one of the most imaginative writers who ever lived, but in my opinion his actual writing wasn’t very good. I like to imagine a world where he wrote nothing but outlines, passing them to writers like Ray Bradbury, Isaac Asimov and John Wyndham to flesh out into stories and books. By the way, somewhat off topic, but anytime I see any mention of Dick I think of a story that he told Dean R. Koontz and which Koontz incorporated into his Frankenstein series. It’s pretty gross, so read at your own risk. I’ll include it below⬇️ Supposedly Dick once went to a Chinese restaurant and asked for “something too exotic for the menu.” And they brought him a plate of live baby rats on a plate of lettuce. Dick said that he jumped up and ran out of the restaurant. Don’t say I didn’t warn you that it’s a gross story.

ohhh Quigley is a GREAT underrated western with a GREAT hero in _Tom Selleck_ and a GREAT villian in _Alan Rickman_

And on that day, you learned that 3-boobed women are a real thing!

It was easy back then to buy a ticket for PG rated film and then switch theaters.

@@barreloffun10 I think that's how we did it...I can remember seeing the trailer on TV and was like...gotta see this

My stepfather bought me a ticket to see Red Heat (rated R) because I was a big Arnold fan, and he went to see the PG or PG-13 movie he bought a ticket for at same time. I was the only person in the theater and at that time there were ads for donations to Will Rogers. The employee who came in to take donations asked me if I was old enough, I said yes lol. I was only about 12.

If the main events are real, how does Recall have images of the super secret alien reator in their files? It's the big secret of the film, but some travel agent just happens to have it? No, sadly Doug is a vegetable at this point, his adventure concluded he is now just stuck in a fade to white until Laurie has him turned off. I feel sorry for Laurie. Her husband abandoned her for a fantasy. Though she doesn't know the worst of it, like he reimagined her as a honeypot and then killed her, she still has to live with the fact that she and the doctor were implanted into the dream and Doug rejected her for his fantasy.

Something people also seem to miss is the tech at Recall saying "Huh, blue sky on Mars, that's new" when he's getting ready to load the memory file.

One of the big tells for me is that we get scenes in the film not involving Quaid, which would mean things were actually happening - whereas if it was just memory implants, none of those scenes would've actually taken place. It would've been 100% Quaid in every scene, since it would just be his memories of what he witnessed.

@@RawrGabbysaurus Excellent point. Awesome

@@RawrGabbysaurus I think officially, according to Verhoven, the true ending(in his own vision) is that it's still a dream. While this makes perfect sense in the novel where an unreliable narrator is completely possible. It doesn't make sense in the visual format for the reasons you listed. The audience is shown information that Quaid doesn't know, which makes absolutely no sense.

@@fredwin Why does an unreliable narrator works for books, and not for films? The "extra scenes" could only be the director given us, the viewer, context. Why does those scenes must be "exactly" what was implanted?

@@sophiamarchildon3998 It's not that it can't work in film, I think Memento is a great film that employs it quite well. It's that it can't work for this film because of scenes that were added while the narrator was unconscious, etc. It's either one way or the other.