James, it's a great car....it's not a sports car. Drive a mx5, lotus Elise etc...driving a light car is fun and sporty. The Porsche is great but hugely heavy and ultimately uncommunicative. my son just bought his first car..a 2011 Mégane Renault sport 2.0 turbo. It's a sportier and more fun drive than my Audi e Tron GT.

My point was that VAT makes a large amount of prices up, I understand it’s not listed but still included. What I was getting at is if you paid £100k for a car and kept it for a week then listed it for sale you wouldn’t get anywhere close what you paid for it

@@TomShorrock The vat on a£100k car is £16670 not £20000. also the £20k in options has £3333 of vat in it. So you're not down to £60k , you're down to £66666.

100% agree! There no hear box to brake on an EV

now worth about 55k

Offcourse you are because you need to convince yourself that you didn't buy the cat i the bag. It's kinda mental self protection to live in denial. Denial that you have thrown 10th of thousands of pounds on a car that you're now stuck with.

​@@Jazzmaster71what do you mean "stuck with"?

It’s quite possible

This rep should have bought a Tesla and not an Audi - problem solved. And the car would have been ten grand + cheaper. Please don't allude to the incorrect assertion that "all EVs are the same" because the etron was a particular turd you could not even roll in glitter.

Thanks for your thoughts. Like you I’ve come to understand that Tesla’s have the edge on range. Can I ask what your thoughts are on the charging network, in particular Scotland? From what I gather unless you can charge at home. Trying to get around much of Scotland & in particular rural Scotland one is going to struggle. Even the gent I met described how at times it took a few goes to find a working charger. Maybe in time the network will be there however if I want to drive from NE Scotland to a west coast Island. I’m thinking I’m may well struggle to find chargers on route or at my destination. Let alone ones which are fast chargers?

@@SpiderMacKenzie We recently took a trip round the Scottish Borders, Edinburgh way and Berwick on Tweed. Up from Milton Keynes and back via the A1. There are chargers all over the place on the A1 and more going in. As for Scotland, we did not have any problems. We mostly used Tesla super chargers, which ALWAYS work, you don't need a special card or anything and some are open to non Tesla, but we also used EV power near the hotel [7 brand new 150kw stalls] and a couple of 50kw "Electrify Scotland" chargers we found in small car parks like in wonderful Melrose town. We did no come across anything that did not work. Amazing dead straight up and down old Roman Roads. We also drove through the Northumberland National Park via the A68. There were just no problems at all with charging. The car is easily capable of 300+ miles though at non motorway speeds. We just charged when we could - the Tesla car mapping has all chargers that are not "locked in" with special cards, but we invariably stopped because we had to, not the car. Maybe I have been lucky but also did a 1,000 mile round trip to the North West of Ireland and back - charging just was not a problem. Even overnight on a 13 amp socket at my Uncle's house gave 100+ miles. It is a differing mindset. I only ever had one issue public charging and that was a 50kw charger we found near the Holyhead Ferry Terminal - it started charging ok but stopped 10 mins later. We called the helpline and they rebooted it remotely and it was then fine. For some reason it would only give me instructions in Welsh but figured it out. I discovered later there were even (free) chargers I could have used on the Stena line Ferry. Finally, I strongly recommend a site like abetterrouteplanner or zapmap if your car does not have something suitable like the Tesla mapping. If you have to use a car for work - swallow your pride and get a Tesla, they are longer range, best charging, best value and super reliable. Local Pizza shops round here use Model 3 to deliver Pizzas and that is purely because they are the cheapest delivery vans you can get. I also know the popular MG5 Estate is well liked by people who have to drive for a living. There are also ODB2 dongles you can get that work with charger mapping [example TRONITY] using your phone or apple / android car link that will show your car range in real time and organise your route and charging stops automatically (Teslas do this anyway and probably other cars too). you tube video of someone going from UK to the boot of Italy in an e208 illustrating the real time charge data / mapping : kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mLt1qZuBvNCRY6c.html

I totally agree! My biggest fear however is when the energy companies start to ramp the price up it will become more expensive than diesel & petrol. Speaking of which motorway services are nearing £2.00 per litre again …

@@TomShorrock that's when you have to go for home solar to keep a lid on these companies! So essentially for cost effective EV ownership likely you need to be a wealthy person with off street parking and solar and the economics of it will be propped up by the average car owner who may have to use public charging or grid electricity.

Very true! Sadly here in the UK we don’t get enough sunlight to make solar payback times shorter

Glad you enjoyed! And glad you agree! I suppose positivity spreads slower than negativity 🤷‍♂️

Insurance is cheaper due to all the anti collision systems it has, and the servicing is minimal, just brakes & health checks, no oil changes needed etc

get the approved insurance and you're good

​@@TomShorrockbatteries buggy software ElectricAl systems software.

Civic type r value went up

5 percent battery dehydration in 8 years, right ?

Thanks for watching, and thanks for the feedback, like I said Porsche offer 8year warranty on the batteries and motor, so if they fail after 3 years it shouldn’t be a chargeable repair 💪🏻

@@TomShorrock yeah I appreciate your depth of knowledge into this. It was just my experience. Regardless of car I always like to ask if it’s a car that the person would pay cash for?🤔

Personally I disagree with paying for cars cash due to depreciation etc, I think leasing is the way forward if you like to change your car every 2-3 years. However if you like to keep cars than cash is definitely the way forward

Thanks for your message, my question is 'would you pay X for car Y'. I am thinking in terms of value as a lot of cars are £50k plus now and dont seem like good value. Regarding leasing, outwith a couple of company cars years, I have always bought cash. Just the way I was brought up.

@@TomShorrock ps just trying to have a car chat, I don't want an online argument or anything 😄

Snob 😭🤣

the four pot will have it's neck wrung in under 50k miles. Have the bits boosted out of it by the turbo in no time at all.

They look great, But there the size of a transit van!

I agree Dave, I think they are more aimed at non car enthusiasts, plus when the tax benefits disappear I think less people will drive them

They are huge, but you also save on servicing etc

Errrm. That's not very good for a daily driver (environmental concerns are factored in). I am sure most Americans just don't care I hope I am wrong.

@@EcoFP33 The 911 is a perfect daily driver. Give it a go and see. As for the environment, we Americans do care a lot. Ever visited our vast and beautiful national parks?

My point is I’m highlighting a positive in a negative situation, now is your chance to get a cheap Porsche

@TomShorrock Oh yeah, but they're cheap for a reason because no one wants them, not even the dealers want them anymore, especially now when insurance companies will just write them off due to the fact that the batteries cost more than what the car's worth.

@@HubNutAutomotive not quite sure if you watched the full video, but I do explain why they are cheap and nobody wants them

Ah yes we will drive gasoline cars indefenitely. Please share more of your wisdom with us.

Of course he didn't watch the video. He is a modern zombie shaped by clickbait headlines, 5 second attention span and lack fo critical thinking skills.

I forgot 17k equates to zero…

You also clearly haven’t watched the full video, if you think I’m suggesting to “ignore the truth”