I agree the method is likely similar to this. Voice recognition embedded in the microphone could make things easier to pull off with less hand movement. Trigger voice recognition for the girl. The embedded processor determines the position from the recognized card and suit. Trigger the audio of the position when asking the gentleman. Having said that, I don’t see how this doesn’t cause the people on stage to be considered instant stooges since they are in on it by not reacting to what they know is the secret to the trick. Aren’t instant stooges against the rules of the show?

The fact she told both of them not to show any reaction supports your solution. Also at the end she asks to rename the card she selected but she did not ask him to rename his number.; Good Job.

Well done for the analysis of the routine. I immediately checked the synchronization between the guy's speech and the number 47 and you are right! He didn't say 47! Well done. I believe your analysis is correct.

It was a great trick. I was in the audience that day. MAGIC LIVE participants were given an easier way to get into the audience last year. What most of you DON'T know was, she messed up doing the trick. She stopped at the wrong number. She stopped a couple of cards early. They stopped the tapping, put a few cards back and started from that point. The editing is flawless. Looks like it went perfect. I don't believe that altered the trick but makes the idea that she had the deck memorized less likely. (Since she forgot the number.) So, entering the card into the mic, or an off-stage voice, would be evident, since she didn't know the number. Either way it was a great trick. After the show, I thought she had "cheated" somehow and it would never be aired. I even spoke to the young man (who picked the number) after the show, asked if he had spoken to her before, he said "No, the producers picked him." I guess I asked the WRONG question. Now after it aired, I knew she didn't "cheat" but still didn't think it was possible. I think the explanation here will allow me to sleep better.

I believe it's actually easier than you think... Several magicians in our local magic club got together and came up with a brilliant solution. She has an accomplice back stage, he has an identically set up deck and his own mic. After she asks the lady her card, the accomplice back stage quickly counts to that number, and just as the gentleman is asked to say his number the audio soundboard operator turns on the accomplice's mic and mutes the mic on stage. Only the accomplice's voice is heard, then the mic on stage is unmuted. Simple as that!

Brilliant! I was completely fooled until you suggested this outrageously clever lateral thinking!

I think you’re spot on. I went and watched the performance, and the 47 does not match the way his lips were moving. Plus, it’s subtle, but he had a weird reaction right after he spoke, as if that’s not what he said. Great job working this one out.

Bravo! That was a proper Sherlock Homes analysis! I think you hit the nail on the head - what a truly ingenious method. I guess there are quite a few ways of getting the correct number out - possibly someone off stage, especially if there isn't a traditional stack to be seen - say, they have a cue sheet for card to position. However that bit is done - the method is

Brilliant breakdown! Great job!

Great deduction as always.

Now I can sleep. Thank you!

Other less technological solution is to put your friend into the theater sound cabin 😅

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Great to have this explanation! When I first watched this trick, I was stumped. All I could think of was that every card was a hi-tech device with an LED display that could be programmed remotely to display whatever card that was sent to it electronically. Then I thought that having 52 of these cards that looked perfecrtly like normal large cards would be super expensive, so I started thinking maybe there is one L:ED card, and maybe an assistamnt in the table that manages to position that LED card into the correct position in the desk. But this had too manby complications and I ended up getting lost in the weeds trying to guess how they would resolve all of those issues. Your explanation seems spot on!

I believe you nailed it!! As i watched the performance last friday evening the first immediate clue i noticed was that she did not invite Pen and Teller onto the stage to be the volunteers!! Or since Teller doesn't speak when on stage as part of their gimmick, i thought why did Emily not have called Pen and the lovely Brook onto the stage?? Now through your thoughts on how you think it was done i can see it is because Pen's rather gravel pit voice would not have matched the male voice we heard from the gimmicked mic !!! Thank-you for your wonderful channel!! Gary in dreamland; have a nice dream!!! 🌟🌟🌟☁️🙂☁️👍👍🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🌟🍬🍬🍬☁️⏰☁️ dream!!

Very good as always you have come up with a great reveal on this one for sure.

You are 100% right. Additional points: - usually, when there are audience members involved in the trick, they are 'randomly selected' and already on stage at the start. I've never seen that the magician selects the audience members. So she could chose a guy where the recorded voice could roughly match (if he would have been 75, it would not have matched) - his lip movements don't match 47 - he never said anything else - he looks a bit confused directly afterwards - when she then says the number is 47, he has this big smile, which makes clear that he knows how it's done. However, now I have no idea why Penn and Teller were fooled by this. The unusual selection, and the fact that she used her own microphone, should have made it obvious for them.

Just seen this. We were there at the filming at the Rio. The man did say that number 47. Everyone was asking him afterwards, and he says he said 47... the lady also said 6 spades and we could hear this clearly... the mic was given to her after she walked on stage by a tech man...

Excellent brake down on Emily Robinsons act with a well thought out very strong possibility for the method.Your Good friends circuit building skills proves the possibility of your theory. Well done

You pegged 'er exactly. Looked like he said seventeen. He even reacted a bit when she said 47 (I believe she chose a big number to elongate the effect and add a bit of suspense); you can see him react like "That's not what I said!"

After rewatching it, his mouth, at least from the side view looks kinda like he says 47. But my guess is she picked 47 because 37 is a the number most pick when asked to pick between 1 and 50. So I believe he says 37 which is why it looks like he said 47. Also, he makes a weird move with his head directly after 47 is announced. So I do think you absolutely nailed how this was done. And as far as the electronics involved, theres a myriad of ways she could have triggered the number, that don't include having buttons on the microphone, other than cutting the mike when he speaks. But you could be right on her using the mike. Either way, BRAVO 👏👏👏

Wouldn't the count as using instant stooge? The person on the stage are not in on the trick, but they act as it was their own words, not opponent against the word that was heard.

I agree , makes sense and would explain how this effect worked

I agree the number 47 was overdubbed while the mic was muted. But it could have been done by a back stage assistant without needing a special mic.

I wondered why she didn't ask them their names, I just thought it was an oversight, all but an unprofessional mistake but now you have explained the possible method it all falls into place. Another possible alternative to the recorded clip is a hidden assistant with a deck of cards in the same order just says the number when she mutes the mic?

Good logic here. I was thinking that 47 was an odd choice for a spectator, since they have to think that maybe the cards will be counted down to that number, and that's a lot of tedious counting.

Rewatched her clip (she turned comments off), but 1 can see at the moment he gives number, his lips don't line up with 47. Plus, she doesn't ask him any questions about any prearranged meetings like she does with the woman. She just goes right to the give me a number. And after the recorded 47 speaks, she puts up her hand as if to stay stop or don't, which he does and lets the trick go on.

I went back and watched him say his chosen number a few times. It seems like he says "17". Also, I noticed a little head tilt after he says his number, as someone would do if they were confused, like when another voice says 47 when you just said 17. Totally Magic, I think you're spot on!! Thanks for the video!

Fantastic!

Amazing analysis.

That's at least the 3rd time they've been fooled by technology (rather than sleight of hand)...

Totally agree with these method 😮 the spectator reaction tells all

Great breakdown! A couple things. Is it possible for some guy back stage to speak the number instead? Also regarding that guy: personally his looks and the voice didn't exactly line up in my mind. His lips seem off. Also after he finished saying the number while looking at her, he tilts his head to the side slightly as if communicating "Huh?"

Mark, l believe you nailed it. I knew the deck was in some kind of stack. But this thing with the mike seems to be the logical explanation. Great deduction, Sherlock 😊👍👍😊👏👏👏😊🤘🤘🏆🏆

This guy do say something. He says „Hey” at 2:35. Compare it to 3:44. Two different voices. :)

I think you’re spot on Mark with Emily’s method. There also could have even been another helper with a radio Mike. The Rebecca method you mentioned! I also thought that was audio dubbing but later it was confirmed to me it wasn’t, so I re-visited it and found out it also could of been another very clever method which I’ve used myself. 👍😊👍

You're right, I noticed the moment she says "47" he gives a tini surprise reaction and the camera changed angles and he kind'a grins like maybe he didn't say that.

I’d tend to agree but I was pretty sure P and T don’t allow instant stooges (like with a bone conduction sound device). This may be considered just this side of that lol.

Totally agree! That was the solution I found also and came up with (almost straight away)… BTW, no real need for a very special mic, enough that you can mute it if you have a secret helper backstage speaking into a second mic… as long as he can see a bit what is going on…

Great idea. This could have been how it went, taking into account that the spectator could possibly contradict.

As "Perfect ACAAN"s and "Holy Grail"s go, there is still room for improvement. But what makes this such a marvellous trick for Fool Us was Emily holding the curious retro hand mic throughout the performance (and the chat afterwards). Penn says the secrets behind tricks are often ugly. But the fact Emily was holding a giant clue the entire time would've really made him and Teller kick themselves.

As a side note, the 6 of Spades must be considered an unpopular card to pick. I'd say she ideally would have liked to count down to around 20 cards, where the 'popular' card choices would have been clustered...

Absolutely brilliant! I went back and confirmed that this was in fact the case. With the sound off, looks like he said 17.

the mic not being a head set could be an excuse for the person talking. but after watching, the guy is clearly not saying 47, and if we listen really carefully, it's the robotic voice we hear all the time on the internet. It's just so short, we don't pay attention. but good point on the attached mic I think there is also an audio for the girl, it doesn't sound like her voice when we listen closely. Like other comments, you have to have faith in your participant. and like another said, wouldn't count as instant stooges ?

Interestingly, a couple of performers later, Nick Diffate also uses a handheld mic (+ mic stand).

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I think you are right! When you watch the video and he says 47 you can see he looks a little surprised and she holds her hand up at him to keep quiet! Well done!!!

There was one other physical detail I've noticed since rewatching it that reveals this is her method. After he allegedly says "47", he does start to make a reaction and she holds her hand up to his face reminding him "don't react," which she didn't use that body language at all with the female. Interesting take on the instant stooge, and perhaps riskier since they aren't getting as clear of directions as other instant stooging can have...and all of it is done literally in front of Penn and Teller. Definitely a well performed trick!

Very clever (you & Emily ;-)

Very interesting

I do think you are absolutely right in terms of the method (insta-stooge). There may be a different explanation for how the mans voice was played to pick the number. A few other factors: 1) Emily Robinson-Hardy is a stunt double that enjoys taking risks (like inst-stoogin someone on live TV). 2) She is upstage from the spectators, which is done to help mask their lips 3) The lip synch of the man does appear to be off (at least in the video I saw on youtube). 4) she gives this deep look to the guy when she says she had no say in the number, which is also true, it wasn't her it was a recorded voice. Good detective work here. Well done!

I caught this gimmick LIVE on first viewing. Guess years of watching P&T have honed my skillz. ;-) Surprised more people didnt catch it . Emily cut off comments on her video. I refrained from posting the gimmick there before she did that , but as you've already revealed it....

I instantly knew something was up when she made a point of telling the two audience members not to react, and then with the conclusion of the trick they seemed very underwhelmed. To me, a trick like this gets into awfully fuzzy territory with the Instant Stooge rule of the show. I almost think it's worse in some ways than if there'd been a visual cue given to him to say "47". So I guess technically, he had free choice to say whatever he wanted... we just didn't actually get to hear HIM say it and we got to hear an entirely different person say something else (whether it was another person with a mic or a pre-recorded track). But the fact he had to bite his tongue, or be the stooge that gave the trick away, just seems to fly awfully close to the sun... and rules. I get Cris Angel vibes. To me, it doesn't seem much different than if a camera/video editing was used to make the trick work.

Wonderful observations! I do think that is the method. Otherwise, the trick as presented is impossible to perform unless you have knowledge of the position and card.

Nice one man, think you nailed it. Can it be deemed a successful trick if a spectator immediately knows how it's done?

I have to say.... At first I thought you brought up some pretty valid points..... Then I thought, "now he's really stretching or grasping at straws..." Then I finished the full video explanation.... Conclusion: My hat's off to you! That was a solid break down! I kicked myself for not noticing any of the details before watching this. Well done!

It very much seems like you're spot-on with your analysis, there's just one issue I have. The contestants cannot lie when Penn is asking them questions, yet this was part of their conversation: Penn: _"You promise there's no pre-show?"_ Emily: _"Promise."_ Penn: _"And you promise that there's no stooge, right?"_ Emily: _"Correct."_ Penn: _"Because if this was pre-show, or there was a stooge, there is no trick. At all."_ Emily: _"Yep."_ Now, Penn & Teller make a distinction between stooges and instant stooges but still... If that's how the trick was done, she lied.

The extra large cards are also on purpose.... I think.... these are very inconvenient to shuffle...

I don't see how the Rebecca Herrera performance you refer to could have used a memorized deck because the deck was thoroughly shuffled multiple times. Of course, if dubbing were used, she could have changed both spectators' statements, but how is that magic? That's like saying Christopher Reeve was the greatest magician of all time because he flew in the Superman movies.

To support, she also said this was a real risky trick. In other words the dude could be like A HELLS NO!! And the trick would’ve been blown. She also never asked him:do you want to change that number???

You souloution makes a lot of sense. Also the guys reaction saids it all. For witnesses such a miracle he does not look impressed at all. I have seen instant stooges on fool us before even a few times with Alison. So i don't believe instant stooging is against the rules. Very clever indeed

I agree this is probably how it was done. What I bet you can't explain is how when my daughter and I picked a number 24 and a card 8 of spades she nailed it.

This solution seems to be perfect. The only issue I see is if the volunteer says a number with a different number of syllables. e.g. He says 47, but it is 2. It is a small risk because are not looking for it to be a dubbed voice.

I'm sure she didn't memorize the deck. She had someone backstage with a chart. I wouldn't give her that much credit. The biggest issue is why didn't P&T question the microphone or ask if she used a stacked deck?

A very plausible solution but it really depends on the person who volunteers the number. If after the performer states the number and the volunteer says “that’s not what I said”, the trick is kaput. The performer must have a lot of faith in the volunteer.

the sound that was heard was strange...i guess u nailed it

just went back to the original trick -- the guy did say "eight" and indeed flinched a bit when 47 came out.

The only other conceivable way to do this would be to influence their choices somehow. But that’s difficult and not guaranteed to work. I thought maybe her intro video could’ve planted a card and a number subliminally, but I’m not sure the producers would allow that.

Shear brilliance from the young lady 😮 Sure your right as the guy doesn't clap or look amazed. She's a cool dude for being so daring

The giant cards are a nice excuse not to shuffle as well.

brilliant

As soonas you mentioned tge microphone I was like "Ohhhhhh shit" Brilliant job, I think you nailed it

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Yep. She primed and managed the two volunteers perfectly to set this up and prevent them from reacting. The side effect of this is that both volunteers knew exactly what happened and were not impressed. But it might also have been done by an off-stage assistant.

What type (brand/model) of microphone is that? As in watching the original footage i assumed the performer simply muted the microphone then with off stage assistant they hit a pre-recorded playback. However the timing would have had to have been split second.

As soon as you mentioned her microphone, I realized how the trick was done. And then I noticed the guy was surprised after speaking, so... 🙂

That is a totally reasonable solution. It sure fooled me.

1:31 I swear thats Irelands Michelle O'Neill lol

You’re absolutely right but i think only the man is an stooge because the woman talk 3 times answering emilys question and i believed that the deck was a stack deck and the number was played in the microphone.

This trick was performed by fooler Rebecca Herrera five years ago with two people. It was a trick invented by Martin T Hart

Notice that the guy was not asked whether 47 was a free choice. That too supports this solution.

I knew something was off about this trick, and the comments here confirmed my suspicions. I don't normally come to reveal channels, but since the comments were turned off on that video, I wanted to see what others thought. There is no such thing as a perfect trick in magic, according to P&T, because perfect tricks have no other way of doing it. I'm surprised they even gave her the trophy!

Your method could certainly work but there can't be a stooge in her version. Penn clearly pointed out during their guess that there's no pre show and there's no stooge. She agreed. If there's an instant stooge, then she didn't fool them. It has to be something else.

Nailed it. Wow, Emily is so smart and so amazing! I want to see more from her!!!!!

I guess it´s the solution. He looks for a tiny moment suprised when he heard his "own" voice. But anyway it´s still brilliant.

I think you nailed.

Looking at the video it doesn't look like she is manipulating any buttons on the mic but she does talk to the lady a little more to buy some time. Chances are the recording is selected remotely backstage by an assistant.

I think you are right. I saw the video performance earlier today and it was driving me nuts! The ‘Perfect ACAAN’ is obviously impossible or at least it’s 52! X 52! (52 factorial x 52 factorial - a number bigger than the number of atoms in the universe, just the factorial of 50 is 3.41 x 10 to the 64th power - that’s a very, very big number. Even shuffling a new deck six times means you have got a new order that has never been seen before, as in 52×51×50×49×48 et cetera,) So geeky maths stuff aside, I immediately wondered why she didn’t have a Lav mic and why the volunteers didn’t have mics. That has been standard practice on the show. (They stop recording, mic up the volunteers and then continue.) When the gentleman, who didn’t speak, apart from saying ‘his number’ heard what ‘he said’ he gave a wry smile, as in ‘ok I’ll say nothing’ and as you pointed out Emily said ‘please don’t react to your experiences’. Given it’s a TV show, maybe the gentleman felt under slight pressure not to say anything and to go along with the trick. Also the side angle of his face still doesn’t quite hide his lip movements for apparently saying ‘47.’ (The power of a magician on stage is extraordinary. I saw Derren Brown live with my son. He got selected to go on stage. Derren put his hand on my son’s shoulder, said something and my son, forgot the next four minutes and was part of an amazing trick.) The annoying thing is, as often happens on the Penn and Teller show, is the cutaways to close-ups of people so you don’t see the entire act from one point of view. So it is perfectly possible that she used a series of buttons to bring up a recording. Also the ‘male voice’ sounded a little odd. The stacked deck had to be unique, as certainly Teller would spot a Si Stebbins, Mnemonic, Aronson or Redford, etc. The ‘Berglas Effect’, named by Jon Racherbaumer, about the legendary David Berglas, (who sadly passed away last November aged 97) states: - The deck of cards is on view before the performance - Anyone can freely name a card - Any one can freely name a number - Anyone other than the performer counts down the cards So three out of the four criteria were met. I think your explanation is the most logical, but you might be wrong, but I can’t think of another explanation! There are no stooges or pre-show preps, the producers check that and know the method. However, full marks to Emily’s performance and Martin T Hart who devised the trick. I’m a little surprised Teller didn’t suss it, although it’s a little disingenuous to ‘overdub’ a volunteer. And thanks for your channel, really enjoy your content.

Would it not have been more likly for her to do the audio switch on both of the punters? That way she doesn't even need to memorise the stack.

The fact that there was no comment about 47 being so far down seemed strange. Now it makes sense.

This was the perfect method for the show. Which is what it takes to fool people sometimes.

The conventional wisdom about not revealing magic DOES NOT APPLY here. This was a trick designed to be performed one time only, and the secret makes everyone love this performer even more. The only issue is that it is really Emily's secret to choose to tell or not -- but, i can't help but think she wouldn't have revealed it, and the result would have been that we never would have known how amazing and brilliant she is as we do now. Sigh.

I believe this might be less technological than that. She might have an assistant in the backstage with a mic. When she asks the spectator, she simply mutes her mic so his voice isn't captured, while the assistant says the number. Definitely it's not the gentleman saying it, because she never asks him to repeat the number or anything else, like she asks the lady to tell that it's free choice and such.

Damn, she just gives that guy the eyes 😍 and he’s like “sure 47 anything you say”

I was thinking it was someone backstage with an excel worksheet and audio mixer

I do think it was done like you say, if you watch the original video carefully you can notice that after the man hears "forty seven" he leans his head as in surprise, and then he must have remembered that he shouldn't react at all.

Sounds likely (and clever), but sounds also like it'd be uncomfortably skirting the stooge rules of the show (as I understand them). But, if so, that's really on the producers, not on her. She had her job and she did it.

Amazing reveal. This trick puzzled me intensely, but you can actually clearly see he says something like 17, and then he kinda squirms when he hears something that isn’t what he said. She really drills him with eye contact and subtle reinforcement. Well solved!

Many in the comments refer to the volunteers from the audience as "instant stooges" and that that isn't allowed. But all the tricks are certainly checked beforehand and at least a few people from the production team are informed about how they work (probably including Brook, as for sure they have to rehearse the whole show on stage). However, fantastic achievement to find the mechanism of the trick! With that in mind, you can see, how the lip movements indeed don't fit the spoken words.

Yes, I think you've got it, mate. But this means that the *producers* must be a part of the trick. How does this not violate the "no stooges" rule?