Toton to Walsall - Freight Line Special

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Don Coffey

Don Coffey

11 ай бұрын

The video follows a Class 70 and 29 loaded cement tanks over the freight lines via Castle Donington and Sutton Park. If you think going round the outskirts of Birmingham means you are passing through an industrialised area, think again, this might just surprise you! There hasn’t been a scheduled passenger train since 1965 so enjoy this rare treat.
Addendum
The Class 70 output is 3690HP, not 3300 as quoted. Senior moment!!!
Del Boy’s Reliant was a Regal Van, not a Robin!
The Toyota facility at Toton is used to export cars from Burnaston as well as importing them from various plants in Europe. The particular train in the video is however loaded with Yaris’s which are made in Onnaing, France and have arrived for onward distribution. With very few exceptions, all Toyota models sold in the UK, go to Burnaston for onward distribution.
It is acknowledged that the Midland Railway considered Derby as the zero point and therefore their routes would be on the Up towards Derby. It’s nevertheless unusual to be heading south on an up line.
Arched bridge peers should read piers!
The crossing at 14:27 is Lock Lane and not Sawley. Thanks Simon Marsh.

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@Dkentflyer
@Dkentflyer 4 ай бұрын
Thank you so much for posting these videos I suffer with quite bad anxiety and I feel these really help to calm me down I also learn lots about the journeys too. The train scratching bush made me chuckle.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 4 ай бұрын
I’m pleased they offer some relief and yes, my sense of humour pops up now and again!!!
@melvynnixon2374
@melvynnixon2374 11 ай бұрын
Once again Don you offer us a wonderful piece of railway filming. The quality is in a league of its own. The text as usual is concise, informative and so helpful adding to the film rather than distracting from what we see. You are a master of this art that many try to equal but few if any succeed in. The pace of the film although determined to a large extent by the pace of the freight diagram is not the less so right that it is easy to feel one is actually involved in the cab. So thank you for what you bring us. It always makes my day.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
I’m flattered Melvyn, thank you. Of course our friend Vinny brings us this footage with the blessing of Freightliner but there are many other companies including my own that help considerably.
@spodface12
@spodface12 10 ай бұрын
luckiest man alive with that job. still trying to become a train driver one day. 18-30 maybe in my 30th year ill get lucky haha
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Don’t stop trying. Message me if you want advice 👍
@jontownsend8090
@jontownsend8090 10 ай бұрын
Great to see the Sutton Park line, a first for me. I appreciate all the information you put into these videos.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Jon. Glad you enjoyed it 👍
@benegeserit1
@benegeserit1 8 ай бұрын
I love your videos Don! The information re signals, junctions, locomotives, track, the job of engineer, is really engaging and really adds to the video that puts you streets ahead of most of the other train videos on KZfaq. It is so annoying when the majority of train videos have great 4K footage but absolutely NO explanations/narrative about all the stuff that makes one feel engaged and a part of the journey. Thank you Don!d
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 8 ай бұрын
It’s a kind of trademark now. It’s just how they evolved through questions and feedback and they make money for charity too 👍
@grahamwalls9379
@grahamwalls9379 10 ай бұрын
A very good video . I remember toton from my young train spotting days . Good memories throughout . Thank you .
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Graham 👍
@tomoflaherty3638
@tomoflaherty3638 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing this this. I used to travel the chellaston route most nights in the mid 2000s but in the early hours when it was still dark, reversing at Stenson so never really saw what it looked like.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Tom 👍
@CemilAmca
@CemilAmca 6 ай бұрын
Fascinating information throughly enjoy watching here in Turkey 👍😊
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 6 ай бұрын
Thanks for visiting 👍
@kevinhowell6458
@kevinhowell6458 5 ай бұрын
As usual superb Don
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 5 ай бұрын
Cheers Kevin. All the best.
@davidfarrow44
@davidfarrow44 4 ай бұрын
Wonderful as always Don. Thankyou to all involved.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 4 ай бұрын
Our pleasure! Vinny will see your comment 👍
@timw.8452
@timw.8452 11 ай бұрын
Another excellent video, duly liked. But I have one gripe about this one, and it happened in the first few seconds. Toton is also used to EXPORT thousands of British built Toyota cars using (usually) three long trains to the channel tunnel every week. Yes, imported cars arrive there as well, but I would have preferred your written comment not to imply that it was imports only.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
It’s funny but things like that can stick in my craw too. In fact, that train is loaded with Yaris’s which are imported from the Toyota factory at Onnaing. They also bring in CH-Rs from Turkey. I’m something of an expert with Toyotas and I accept that Corollas go out but not that particular train. I’ll put a note in the video description but I don’t feel I’ve made a fundamental mistake. I’m perfectly capable of doing so and appreciate your feedback 👍
@stue9391
@stue9391 11 ай бұрын
Looking forward to this! Though too many n's in Donington. They probably still spell download like that....
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for that - yes there’s only one n and I’ve corrected it in the description. Now my spell checker doesn’t like it! Luckily, I believe the many references in the video are correct!
@henkbremmer7838
@henkbremmer7838 10 ай бұрын
What a beautiful ride this is the first time I've been here and it keeps following you. I like how you describe things about the route keep it up
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Henk, more videos soon.
@simonmarsh5062
@simonmarsh5062 8 ай бұрын
Brilliant video Don, however as a pedantic 33 year career S&T man who worked on the Trent PSB patch some years ago, I have to correct your route knowledge at 14:27. The MCB-CCTV crossing which you traversed is Lock Lane and not Sawley. Sawley is on the SPC (Derby) line. Apologies my friend, but we can't afford to make mistakes.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 8 ай бұрын
It’s a railway video Simon, not a covert ops plan! However, I’ve checked and you are correct. Network Rail list it as Lock Lane but under the Sawley CP area and I’ve obviously quoted the area and not the location. I’d rather have it right than wrong as I know NR use the videos for reference. I’ll put a correction in the description and keep checking and feeding back because I don’t sign down there.
@bevsbitznbobz5754
@bevsbitznbobz5754 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for another fantastic and informative video, especially as this one went past the house I was born in near Sutton Coldfield in 1942!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it and glad it brought back memories 👍
@martingbutcher4645
@martingbutcher4645 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for another insight into our wonderfull railway system.Look forward to the next video.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Martin 👍
@44662dc
@44662dc 11 ай бұрын
Another great freight video Don they are so enjoyable. You really are a master at these and all for a very good cause. Many thanks.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them!
@johnwhitehouse9885
@johnwhitehouse9885 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Sir Don. Another great video Enjoyed as always and very interesting to me living in the Water Orton area for over 70 years. Something new every day. Thank you again. Stay Safe.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
And you John. Much appreciated 👍
@AndrewG1989
@AndrewG1989 11 ай бұрын
I’ve seen some of the Class 70 Freightliner on the Great Eastern Main Line including at Chelmsford and Colchester.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Nice one Andrew. Yes they get out to all regions and they are great to see 👍
@rickstravelrides
@rickstravelrides 10 ай бұрын
Wow Don, words fail me on just how enjoyable your cab rides are. A brilliant ride through some rather picturesque area and great action and noises by the class 70 :-)
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it Rick.
@thegreyfolk
@thegreyfolk 11 ай бұрын
An excellent video. I'm surprised by the greenery between Water Orton and Walsall, so much nicer than the roads.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Totally agree! It took me by surprise too.
@NorthernMetro
@NorthernMetro 3 ай бұрын
Fantastic video as always Don. Thank you. Although I’m not a huge fan of the text in the middle of the screen. The P616 is a great sounding engine.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 3 ай бұрын
I’m afraid it’s the text for the majority that is the attraction for the channel. You can ignore it like I do with tv news.
@JGrandcourt
@JGrandcourt 11 ай бұрын
Congratulations on your 10 year anniversary and also graduating, well done! As a person living on the opposite side of the world I have enjoyed your creations on history, as I would love to travel there and you have given a great insight on US rail operations and history. So thanks!!!!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
I’m 20 years on the railway but 10 with my current company. I’m really pleased that you like the videos.
@jarrodhook
@jarrodhook 11 ай бұрын
Alright Don? I got into your videos in 2020 after visiting London in January of 2020, and love these videos, especially during that rough period we all went through! I still have them playing in the background while I work from home these days, they are great. Makes me want to visit again as soon as I can, but the wife wont let me!! I was pleased to see you raised £11122 for the Samaritans - anyone who complains about ads, just get premium or just think of the help you're doing. Anyway, playing this one now, cheers again.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Jarrod. See if you can sneak over without the wife knowing 😉. Thanks for the support regarding the adverts. I occasionally get really emotive comments and complete dismissal of the fact that without them, we don’t have a channel. It makes a comforting change for some support.
@geraldtomson8105
@geraldtomson8105 10 ай бұрын
Oil trains for Kingsbury are often held in Elford loop to wait for the empty oil trains leave Kingsbury oil depot so the full train arriving has access to the oil depot
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
I’m aware it’s a busy spot Gerald. I’ve actually been to the oil terminal working years ago.
@andrewrichmond5720
@andrewrichmond5720 11 ай бұрын
Many thanks for this one, Don - an absolute cracker. I finally managed a run over the Sutton Park line last year with LSL, hauled by "Britannia" & 45231, which had previously absolutely flattened Lickey, en route from Bristol to Lancaster, & giving way to D213 "Andania" at Crewe, which had hauled the outward trip throughout, Lancaster to Bristol. One very special trip indeed, with lots of nominally freight-only tracks covered in the process, so it makes it even more enjoyable watching this particular run, as I get to see the "front end" view of Sutton Park. Cheers, Don.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
That sounds fantastic Andrew. I remember the 45s clearly and can hear your trip now! I saw photos of that railtour.
@peterwilliams8122
@peterwilliams8122 11 ай бұрын
Another really great video, thanks Don.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Peter 👍
@RichardFelstead1949
@RichardFelstead1949 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for sharing. Great video Don and I watched it non stop.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Thanks as always Richard. I keep watching yours too 👍
@ianplowman2808
@ianplowman2808 10 ай бұрын
Thanks Don, informative as ever.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Very welcome Ian. Take care.
@Deepak-wr9pt
@Deepak-wr9pt 11 ай бұрын
Another great informative video - thanks Don.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
@davidbarrett1487
@davidbarrett1487 8 ай бұрын
Thanks Don very enjoyable great bits of info.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 8 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it David 👍
@brettjones5041
@brettjones5041 8 ай бұрын
Thanks to you mate loved every klm
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 8 ай бұрын
Great to hear Brett 👍
@Adullamite
@Adullamite 11 ай бұрын
Very enjoyable, and full of info as always. It is not often Birmingham is presented this way! Thanks Don.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. I must admit that stretch through Sutton Park surprised me for scenery 👍
@ianmosely3441
@ianmosely3441 11 ай бұрын
Great video. Thank you Don.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Ian 👍
@tomward3656
@tomward3656 11 ай бұрын
Don your videos are always interesting and informative . Excellent. Thank you
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you like them Tom 👍
@Melalmighty
@Melalmighty 11 ай бұрын
Another very good and informative video thank you Don for these. I like the freight ones as they use lines we don’t normally see and coming from Derby it is good to see the freight lines used around here.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Very welcome and many more freight videos to come 👍
@chrisbuxton1958
@chrisbuxton1958 8 ай бұрын
Thoroughly enjoyable video. The Chase line is my local line, great to have such an excellent rail service on hand.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 8 ай бұрын
I’ve never been that way Chris and it really surprised my how picturesque it is.
@bobowen7754
@bobowen7754 10 ай бұрын
Just caught up with this one. As always very interesting and informative. Thanks Don and the driver.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
He’ll see your comment Bob.
@HenrysAdventures
@HenrysAdventures 10 ай бұрын
Another great cab ride. Good to see theses freight only lines.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it Henry 👍
@MrOldways
@MrOldways 11 ай бұрын
Thank you Don, most enjoyable. 🙂
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it 👍
@philipalldred333
@philipalldred333 11 ай бұрын
Great Don learnt alot Thanks
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Good to see you Phillip. Glad it was productive 👍
@jondavies9347
@jondavies9347 11 ай бұрын
Couldn't watch this until tonight (15/7),looking forward to this as I live near to a small station called Wilnecote near Tamworth and used to work next to the Sutton Park line a few years ago.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Hope it met with your expectations.
@geoffbarry9540
@geoffbarry9540 11 ай бұрын
Love your observation about the p-way heroes. The Video125 Connex Express journey from Brighton to L Victoria has a fettling sunbather adjacent to the up line facing religiously away from the direction of travel as the 319 barrels past him at about 70. There are definitely easier ways to make a living some days...
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
I think once you’ve had your lips sprayed you soon learn Geoff 😉😂
@markgr1nyer
@markgr1nyer 11 ай бұрын
Ryecroft junction used to be a 4 into 1 Y. From left to right out of walsall used to be wolverhampton low level, Rugeley Trent valley (current), Lichfield City and Water Orton (Current). It also used to have a massive engine shed there. If you go on Google Earth you can still see the old railway lines thanks to the tree lines
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Mark. I could see from the footage that there were once much greater things. It’s a shame but it’s progress I suppose.
@rickschell7874
@rickschell7874 11 ай бұрын
Another Excellent video. Great photography, excellent narration . I feel like I am in the cab to.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Perfect. That’s exactly what I wanted to accomplish 👍
@Pettsy68
@Pettsy68 11 ай бұрын
Hi Don, Thanks for another excellent and informative video...great. Graham
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Graham. 👍
@paulprescott7913
@paulprescott7913 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Don a most enjoyable video and rare treat to travel on the Stenson line. Spent many an enjoyable day at Claymills as a kid, when there was a signal box there in the late 70s. But even then Derby power box controlled the points into the loops. Something that you may or not know is that as the train passes under Horninglow bridge the entrance to the brewry railway system was inbetween the grain silos and the large brick building.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it. I spent a lot of time at my local box as a kid. Interesting about the brewery. What a pity GoPros didn’t exist then!!!
@ffrancrogowski2192
@ffrancrogowski2192 10 ай бұрын
A very thorough up front video Don. I have never travelled on any of these lines, only a very small section at Walsall towards the end of the video. It's so interesting to view these unfamiliar routes, and the information you give concerning the junctions, the designated up and down lines and associated loops, also the crossover highways and underlying rivers. What is also extremely interesting, is the sites of quite a number of closed passenger stations and the dates when they ceased business. You also give some history of some of the locations that many people wouldn't have a clue about (including myself). Sutton Park is somewhere I didn't have knowledge of, and that looks really beautiful, and almost near Birmingham, too! Don, you deserve a diploma for producing these films, and credit to the people that allow these journeys to be filmed. Many thanks indeed, mate, and take care.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Thanks for taking the time to comment Frank. Yes, these freight videos get us into privileged places we wouldn’t normally get to and without doubt this one stands out as the most surprising. I was expecting industrial estates and back yards but as you saw, a complete surprise. Often, the captions don’t allow a full description and researching this video was very interesting. Take care and keep turning your wonderful paintings that also deserve recognition. More videos soon 👍
@deltic1964
@deltic1964 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic Stream Don
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you liked it 👍
@highlandersixtysix
@highlandersixtysix 11 ай бұрын
An outstanding video on a fascinating route.Thanks so very much for taking the time to create these impressively informative and enjoyable productions. I must say, I'm really impressed with the Class 70; the cab seems to be a much more civilised space than that of the 66 by comparison, with very little vibration and noise and she's really quick off the mark for hauling that train.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Yes, in fact they are 3690HP and not the 3300 I quoted in the film. Drivers seem to have mixed views but mainly positive.
@pauloconnor2980
@pauloconnor2980 5 ай бұрын
I love the Lunar lights @ 1:53:59!!!!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 4 ай бұрын
Good aren’t they! Watch out for the Mexican hat in the KingsX to Hull video.
@nisaax
@nisaax 11 ай бұрын
Watching your videos late at night is pleasantly soporific! It would be great to see a cab view of the Leicester to Burton line
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
I had to look that up but yes, they make me drowsy but luckily not when I’m driving a train!
@spencerbaxter7689
@spencerbaxter7689 11 ай бұрын
I've been looking forward to one of your videos, Don, showing a train passing through Burton-on-Trent, a town where my grandparents came from originally. They moved to Canada prior to the 1st World War, settling in Montreal. My Dad remembered it as a brewery town when he visited with family in the late 1920's when he was a boy. Nice to see it as it is today! Thanks!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
My pleasure and Vinny has just recorded the return trip which we’ll get to on a future trip.
@andyc3088
@andyc3088 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video, Tamworth was also famous for the Tamworth Two, the pigs that escaped Butch (a sow) and Sundance (a boar) were sister and brother. They were on their way to an abattoir when they made their escape to freedom. It attached world-wide news. After capture they lived to ripe old age, Butch died aged 13 and Sundance, aged 14. In 2003, the BBC produced and broadcast a 60-minute drama The Legend of the Tamworth Two.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Haha, it must have been a dry news period but good for them. Thanks for that 👍
@richardgriffiths5920
@richardgriffiths5920 11 ай бұрын
Always enjoy your presentations and informative comments Don and this video takes me back to my neck old of the woods as I'm sure you passed through parts of north west Warwickshire after Tamworth, which is an area I knew well. Living now in Canada since 1990, videos like these always bring me nearer to home.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Glad you enjoyed it Richard. That certainly is a very scenic part of the world. Stay safe over there.
@richardgriffiths5920
@richardgriffiths5920 10 ай бұрын
@@doncoffey5820 Well it's nice living in Nova Scotia very close to many sandy beaches which is a blessing for me considering I came from Coventry which is right in the middle of England and I believe Skegness was the nearest beach.
@georgeholmes1837
@georgeholmes1837 10 ай бұрын
Hi Don thank you for an enjoyable and informative journey. It was also great to hear of the demise of so many stations and it makes one wonder why some of them were put in those positions
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
At one time George, there was no other option to travel other than horse and carriage so there was enough business to support them.
@crazyfroggie6546
@crazyfroggie6546 11 ай бұрын
Some of those sidings had a whole lot of very ancient and decrepit old rolling stock, some of which had been vandalised, no surprises there. What happens to that old rolling stock, is it just being stored there to go off for scrap later, or is it being saved for restoration or perhaps spare parts? Such a mix of old paint schemes on the carriages!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Yes, I detest spray paint vandalism (I refuse to give it a name other than that) - I suspect a mixture of all those things so let’s hope they go to a good home.
@AnthonyValentine-vm1yc
@AnthonyValentine-vm1yc 11 ай бұрын
Usual high standard & entertaing vid Don. These must take forever to research & edit. I am eternally grateful.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Anthony. They do take some doing so glad you appreciate it 👍
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Anthony. They do take some doing so glad you appreciate it 👍
@Martin_Adams184
@Martin_Adams184 11 ай бұрын
Another excellent piece of work, Don. It made Saturday evening so relaxing -- watching the film, following the route on the Adlestrop Railway Atlas, with occasional dips into Google maps. My first experience of several stretches of line too. And your on-screen comments and indications are top-notch. Also, it was an excellent idea to have a list of acronyms and explanations at the beginning. Thanks to the driver. I'm presuming it wasn't you. It crosses my mind that if plans to re-open the Walsall to Litchfield line come to fruition, this working would have a significantly shorter route. Many thanks!! 🙂🙂
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Hi Martin. A track atlas of Amazon is another good resource. No it wasn’t me and I wasn’t there but he did have a Network Rail guy in with him who was observing foliage. Opening the direct route could have an impact on timings but they don’t always use them if it effects passenger service or they need competence on diversions. It’s a complicated affair!!!
@kenstevens5065
@kenstevens5065 9 ай бұрын
I used to commute between Long Eaton and Derby years ago often wondering where the frieght line from Sheet Stores Jc went, now I know. Great production with all the information additions as usual. Good work.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 9 ай бұрын
Much appreciated Ken.
@steviez110
@steviez110 11 ай бұрын
Great video as usual Don. Interesting to see the signal protecting Stenson jcn is still an old Derby plated signal (DY354) as opposed to the old TT222 at Trent junction which has a new and relocated signal and a new number !.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Yes, anomalies pop up from time to time, sometimes difficult to figure out.
@mikedee8104
@mikedee8104 11 ай бұрын
Fantastic as usual!! I've been subscibed for years and am just thankful for your informative uploads, so well edited and titled, so from me, you can spell Donington any way you want lol. Thank you!!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Haha, I think I got it right most times Mike. Regards 👍
@rbrwr
@rbrwr 11 ай бұрын
Well, this sent me down a rabbit hole regarding the direction of "up" on the former Midland Railway. The Wikipedia article on "Rail directions" asserts that up on the MR was towards Derby, and though this would make sense for the MR as originally amalgamated, long before it got to St Pancras, it doesn't actually seem to have been universally true. Anyway, it makes sense for up to be from Birmingham towards Derby on this journey, on a "towards the centre line" basis, as well as from MR practice. Thanks for the video and for the contributions made to Samaritans.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Hi, yes it’s a minefield trying to work out these directions and there are so many variables. There are journeys where we are frequently changing directions.
@mohatchett8001
@mohatchett8001 11 ай бұрын
The large building on the right hand side at 8.50 used to be owned by M&S and I used watch the workings go by whist I was on my break.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Excellent. Thanks for watching it 👍
@owentoller5280
@owentoller5280 9 ай бұрын
I think I read somewhere that the dimensions of the sections of the storage area at St Pancras under the platforms (now the Eurostar departure lounge and all the shops around it) were chosen so as to fit the measurements of barrels of Burton beer, so that the maximum number could be stored ...
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 9 ай бұрын
Exactly right Owen.
@alunfrancis8501
@alunfrancis8501 8 ай бұрын
A very enjoyable and informative video which I've liked and subscribed for more! One slight disappointment, no mention of Trent Station when the train passed through Trent Junction. Trent station was one of my favourite train spotting sights until it closed in 1968
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 8 ай бұрын
I thought I had mentioned it or certainly in one of the other videos. I have to be careful with captions and labels Alun because they have to be timed and spaced to give viewers a chance to read and then look up or they end up missing it. Thanks for subscribing and I’ll be sure to mention it when passing on a future video.
@markbloor5373
@markbloor5373 11 ай бұрын
Hallo don how are you. Listen ive watched a lot of your work do you remember back in the day before any tech & what we have & can use today. All there was was a quick five or six speedy minutes of watching from a drivers eye view well you always out do your self sir. im not a subscriber yet but i love your work. Toton to Walsall everything from Toton to castle Donnington. My home turf Toton sidings & the crossing on lock lane all had signal boxes there back in the past. So a request you have to do a Scarbouragh to Hull leeds don. Again your the man.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Hi Mark. That was planned but then Covid came and they’re still playing catch up with training etc. keep your fingers crossed.
@nealc.6927
@nealc.6927 11 ай бұрын
I'm an occasional user/player of SimSig. My fave signalling areas are Carlisle & Derby. I allus wondered about "Sheet Stores Jn" on the latter. I rather assumed it to do with metal of some description. Thanks for setting me right, you're a positive gold mine of info, Don x
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Thanks Neal. I had to specifically research that because I was curious about it 👍
@phoenixprime24
@phoenixprime24 11 ай бұрын
The best way to remember the power of the class 70 is to use the GE name for them PH37ACmi
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Yes, good point. I did put a correction in the description 👍
@KevTheBusDriver
@KevTheBusDriver 10 ай бұрын
Marvellous journey! When do we go back again? Thanks!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
I’ve actually got the return journey so it will pop up sometime in the future 👍
@12crepello
@12crepello 11 ай бұрын
Excellent again Don. I always look forward to your well produced and informative videos. Please keep them coming! Turning into Mr. Pedantic........Del Boy's van was a Reliant Regal, not a Robin. Sorry! 🙂
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, will do and you are correct about the van, I’ll put a note in the description about that. I used to work on those in my mechanicing days and they were not nice!!!
@twofoottaylor1
@twofoottaylor1 10 ай бұрын
How does the driver put the train into emergency following a trespasser or vehicle strike, if the cement gathers up possibly launching the train forward. Thank you so much for sharing this amazing video for those railfans who are unable t be there. Your written commentary was excellent!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Good question! In that case we don’t bother if it behaves unpredictably, we just get it stopped as quickly as possible.
@twofoottaylor1
@twofoottaylor1 10 ай бұрын
@doncoffey5820 Thanks very much Don, that makes sense, although I imagine it would still pose a bit of a challenge for the driver. Thanks again for a great and enjoyable video.
@Riogrande1964
@Riogrande1964 23 күн бұрын
Yank here. Just realized that "loop" is synonymous with what we'd call "sidings." The British nomenclature is more polite
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 23 күн бұрын
Our sidings are normally closed off and a loop puts us back to the main line.
@heckelphon
@heckelphon 11 ай бұрын
Another brilliant video. Thanks so much. Your productions really are star quality, and I can imagine that the time and trouble you take to put in all of the invaluable extra information takes hours . Curious why, if we were routed through the Down Tamworth Goods at Burton we weren't routed through all of it, and just from about half-way along. Is the 15mph limit on it because of the track condition? Some of the earlier part which we weren't looped on to didn't look that great, but then it's sitting alongside a 125mph HST line which will be kept in tip-top condition.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
They hold the speed down in loops because of signalling and in many cases they can put more than one in at once. It simply mitigates risk. They put them in at a location that’s expedites the move in the quickest way.
@SteveW139
@SteveW139 11 ай бұрын
I always understood that the Midland Railway, formed by the amalgamation of several smaller lines under the same chairman, chose Derby as its headquarters and zero mile point and and decided thatall MR routes towards Derby would be Up as they didn’t serve London over their own metals at that time. The British Rail-era NE-SW route used MR tracks between Westerleigh Jn near Bristol Parkway and somewhere near Ferrybridge.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Possibly so Steve but it is still unusual to head south on a down line. I do appreciate your point and will make a note in the video description.
@pipandbenji
@pipandbenji 10 ай бұрын
Newbie to these videos. What's eye opening to the non engine driver is the distance and time required to bring the beast to a Halt!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Yes it takes quite a while to get used to them. They handle a bit like a canal barge.
@robertbrierley7083
@robertbrierley7083 11 ай бұрын
Great video as usual Don, It got me thinking in this age where everyone wants to get there the day before is it possible you can tell me what is the maximum speed of these class 70s and how many loaded Intercity carriages it could pull, many thanks.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
It’s authorised to run at 60 and I couldn’t even hazard a guess how many carriages it could pull. It’s a hypothetical situation but it would be a lot!
@BIGV710
@BIGV710 11 ай бұрын
thanks don for another great video are you still driving trains as i see that the new CAF mk5s are are recalled due to body work cracks
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Yes I am, I only drive 185s and they are as good as gold. I think the risk of cracks come with newer lightweight designs but they’ll sort them out and of course it will influence newer designs.
@keystonedriving8180
@keystonedriving8180 11 ай бұрын
Another super video. I have enough seniority (i.e. I'm getting on a bit) to have changed trains at Trent Junction station once (am I right in thinking that the station had no road access, like Dovey Junction)?. I think my uncle was taking me from Craven Arms to Nottingham, I don't remember what the exact route was, though. By UK standards that was a fair train, mind you both BNSF and UP run '16K' trains up to 16,000 feet long - 3 miles with Distributed Power Units 3 or 4 at the front, a similar number in the middle and a couple at the rear. All under the control of a single engineer. One of those would cause absolute chaos in this country! With the class 70, is the dynamic brake controlled separately from the air brake or is there a blended system which controls both?
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
I’m afraid I don’t sign Trent Junction and am not familiar enough to know it’s layout. There’s no doubt our trains are puny compared to other parts of the world but we’re not geared up for really big trains. The most we go to is about 40 vehicles which is half a mile-ish and 4000 tonnes. The dynamic brake is blended automatically with the foundation brakes. I’m not sure if the driver can simply turn it off or if it would need to be isolated.
@nicklittle8780
@nicklittle8780 10 ай бұрын
Excellent video, Don. Always good to see freight routes and see how they avoid the much faster express trains by taking longer, more interesting routes to destination. Quick question. The 30 mph TSR @ 1:36:05 was very short. What could be the issue that caused that to be applied? Cheers!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
They just list them as rail defects in the notices Nick but probably a rail burn (where a traction wheel has spun) or a crack maybe.
@denisjones7836
@denisjones7836 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for the video. I have a question, is there any significance with the yellow paint on the opposite track after exiting the Elford loop? Thank you .
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Well spotted Denis. It tells the track inspector that either work has been done or needs doing. In other words it highlights a location.
@richardavery3497
@richardavery3497 10 ай бұрын
Sorry to be a pedant Don, but elegant bridge PIERS on the Sutton park line ...
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Don’t watch the BBC News Richard and I don’t charge a license fee! 😉
@user-cz4wx6gi3e
@user-cz4wx6gi3e 10 ай бұрын
Don, once again thank you for an interesting and informative video. I can understand the reasons that you give for "looping" but doesn't it waste a lot of energy in braking and then accelerating if there is nothing needing to go past?
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Compared to not stopping it does but in the scheme of things, we are constantly stopping and starting. It is important to keep the railway moving and to keep driver’s competency.
@dvone4124
@dvone4124 10 ай бұрын
The yellow truck at 1:31:56 almost qualifies as an Easter Egg, since the company name is not simple to find on most search providers.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
Yes, I spent 29 years in the truck industry and it’s not one I remember either.
@clairestafford9372
@clairestafford9372 11 ай бұрын
A couple of times you mentioned the class 70 as being 3300hp yet the GE model number is PH37ACmi where the 37 refers to 3700hp (actually 3690). Does Freightliner have derated engines?
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
No, you correct, I’ve mis quoted it. I’ll put a correction in the description. Many thanks.
@followthetrawler
@followthetrawler 11 ай бұрын
Don, if a Passenger train is diverted onto this kind of route (15:15) has the driver learned the route previously or would he have to adapt his way of driving because it is unknown?
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
We can’t wander into unknown territory or territory that we haven’t kept competency by periodic use. I’ve been called in work this week for the sole purpose of “route conducting” a driver round a route that he or she doesn’t sign. I don’t sign the traction (it’s a Class 802) so I’m not allowed to drive it, I just verbally guide the driver round that route.
@echarlesstreet
@echarlesstreet 11 ай бұрын
Passing through Burton-on-Trent under 4-aspect signalling DY154 is released to Green + Feather yet the next signal DY106 is at Single Yellow. Why didn't DY154 change to Double Yellow + Feather?
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
We’ll spotted Charles. It’s because the signalling down the loop is 3 aspect. Regulations don’t allow the junction signal to give the impression of 4 aspect arrangement.
@normanbridge8924
@normanbridge8924 8 күн бұрын
a question what does a freight train driver do when mother nature calls when he needs a wee does he just litterally urinate in to a a plastic bottle?
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 8 күн бұрын
It’s a common question. They basically plan ahead but they sometimes take advantage of a stop at a signal if it’s out of sight or they can retreat to the engine room with a container etc.
@hawthornvalley
@hawthornvalley 10 ай бұрын
Why is the crossover at 12:21 painted white?
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 10 ай бұрын
They do it to deflect heat from the sun but they can also detect cracks.
@1IpswichTown
@1IpswichTown 11 ай бұрын
What do you need to be a train driver? Ie qualifications or experience?
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Nothing special. I think companies ask for basic school qualifications but then it’s down to giving the right impression during an interview then passing a very long day of suitability tests. The tests are more about reasoning and logic than academic. If you fancy it you should go online with your local train company and apply.
@KH-vt4op
@KH-vt4op 11 ай бұрын
I was looking forward to watching the video but it's not going to happen due to the bottom of the screen is showing a rippling effect.
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Have another go. It definitely streams ok so it’s your connection or device 👍
@RichardFelstead1949
@RichardFelstead1949 11 ай бұрын
What's the maximum speed this train can run?
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Hi Richard. Hope all is well. It’s a Class 6 train authorised to run at 60mph.
@paulbowler2760
@paulbowler2760 8 ай бұрын
Don - ""quite some train"" consists of 6 locos, each 4000HP, 120 wagons, grosses about 10000 tons and is 1 1/2 miles long!!
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 8 ай бұрын
Yes puny by some standards but not in the uk. Some of ours are gigantic compared to other countries.
@petenikolic5244
@petenikolic5244 11 ай бұрын
So much nicer without all the darn overhead scrap metalwork .
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
A necessary evil in some places Pete but I take your point.
@Nanonic001
@Nanonic001 11 ай бұрын
Why do you write things "in quotes"? Is it because you're old?
@doncoffey5820
@doncoffey5820 11 ай бұрын
Because that’s how people refer to them regardless of whether it’s the right term or not and it irritates those with nothing better to do than criticise and make unnecessary jibes.
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