Touch Operation on Sony Alpha Cameras

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Mark Galer's Alpha Creative Skills

4 жыл бұрын

Touch Operation on Sony Alpha Cameras can be used to pull focus between subjects or initiate Touch Tracking. On some models you can use the touch screen as Touch Shutter or target a subject to track when using the EVF. This how-to tutorial shows you how to get the most out of the Touch Operation feature.
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@nashhall694
@nashhall694 4 жыл бұрын
That manual focus touch option was something I wasn’t aware of! Great for us landscape photographers! Thanks Mark! 😀👍
@asankalakmal9466
@asankalakmal9466 4 жыл бұрын
You always creating helpful videos.thank you very much for acknowledging us.
@sjsphotog
@sjsphotog 4 жыл бұрын
awesome tutorial video as always Mark. Keep up the great work. Sony camera's lead the way with innovations for photographers.
@defyiant
@defyiant 4 жыл бұрын
Once again thank you mark fantastic tutorial.
@saritaplay
@saritaplay 4 жыл бұрын
Thank Mark for amazing presentation
@annemarieleone6394
@annemarieleone6394 4 жыл бұрын
Great video Mark. It helped me understand that function as I kept moving focus point and not understanding why. Also adding to my wish list for one of the newer FF cameras...
@antonioschamaletsos5131
@antonioschamaletsos5131 3 жыл бұрын
Love it! Very informative video! Keep up the great work!
@francisschweitzer8431
@francisschweitzer8431 4 жыл бұрын
Ok... I’ve had this A7r IV about a year now... lol. I HAD NO IDEA about the set up .. I rarely use Touch Screen ( large nose likes to focus on wrong things) ... but now I will explore the LOWER RIGHT to set a tracking point ... Learned something yet again. Thank You Mark
@bala1000mina
@bala1000mina 3 ай бұрын
Thank you so much Mark! Very informative and I learnt a lot! Good luck!
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 2 ай бұрын
Glad it was helpful!
@mariannecampolongo
@mariannecampolongo Жыл бұрын
I was losing my mind trying to figure out what I'd done wrong in settings that it would sometimes move to another spot and other times be fine when I put my eye to the viewfinder. You solved it for me in the first few minutes of the video. Thanks so much. Two big thumbs up!
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills Жыл бұрын
Glad I could help!
@NewYorkerPEACE
@NewYorkerPEACE 3 жыл бұрын
great helpful videos thanks mark
@redeyeguide1052
@redeyeguide1052 4 жыл бұрын
Great Job Mate
@sayharris1361
@sayharris1361 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark
@TonyLoro
@TonyLoro 3 жыл бұрын
Hey thanks, best on the touch functions Tossed ya' $10.
@miklosnemeth8566
@miklosnemeth8566 4 жыл бұрын
On the A5100, in MF touch-to-magnify has a lot more delicate implementation, since on the A5100 a gentle tap was enough to jump into magnified mode. Double tapping 12:24 introduced with A6500 is really cumbersome vs the single tap of A5100. Especially when rolling video with a MF lens, I used my thumb to gentle tap on the screen to adjust or check the focus while recording. No other camera manufacturer made this possible only Sony. A major reason I picked the A5100 vs A6000 was the excellent touch operability of A5100. Touch shutter is brilliant on A5100; when you are in AF-C and you want momentarily AF-S just touch, and it's absolutely gorgeous for fast paced scenes. It's a shame that no touch shutter is available on A9 and A7III.
@GiNodrog
@GiNodrog 3 жыл бұрын
Brilliant I thought I had a probolem with my a9ii tutch screen , thank you , solved.
@mattaldrich2308
@mattaldrich2308 3 жыл бұрын
Mark, I really love how you hold on the monkeys in your splash screen.....
@alantay9409
@alantay9409 4 жыл бұрын
Mark. You are the Sony main Man! Awesome tip. A great way to earn some income using Patron with your knowledge and skills. I hope you are out of harms way with the wild fires in your neck of the woods.
@ketansaart1546
@ketansaart1546 4 жыл бұрын
Very true. He has made free ebooks for us to understand every setting of every model, which incluces examples. Such an amazing work.
@Spartacus1975
@Spartacus1975 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you Mark for this useful video. I use the touch function to move the AF on my A7R III (luckily I´ve found the area setting because of my bigger nose 😀). It is better for me to move the AF this way than with the joystick, I admit I´m a little bit jealous that there is no touch tracking function for the A7R III. For the fifth generation of the Alpha cameras I hope Sony will implement a fully touch operated operating system. Maybe something like in a smartphone, an app store would also be wonderful (we had one already).
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
I am not sure why the apps disappeared as Sony made no statement. I suggested to Sony back in April last year that statements would be useful. Sometimes the answer people don't want to hear is better than no answer at all. I understand that some would like touch menus, but personally I would not use a touch menu system if it was implemented, as it would be slower than how I currently change functions with the camera at my eye (using the custom keys and front and rear dials).
@ianjohnstone1061
@ianjohnstone1061 2 жыл бұрын
TOO222 GOOD AGAIN MARK
@simonjacobsphotography
@simonjacobsphotography 3 жыл бұрын
Very helpful. Thanks. You don't actually mention how the change the speed of the focus when racking...
@almostgreen9498
@almostgreen9498 4 жыл бұрын
Have you used the tracking on feature assigned to a custom button? I can’t think of a good use for it. Love your videos!!
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
I am mostly in Tracking and I have AF Area assigned to C2 so I don't think I need to assign it to a Custom button.
@paulm8157
@paulm8157 4 жыл бұрын
Well done, Mark! How about a follow up vid on the touch to trip shutter feature (e.g., A6600); activating icon on LCD in upper right hand corner is in grey - wish Sony would change it to a more noticeable color or allow user to select color (similar to peaking color option), no?
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
You don't need to touch the icon - you simply touch your subject (wherever it appears on the screen)
@Theforth09
@Theforth09 4 жыл бұрын
Great video mark now ill have to try this out on my a6400 for birds. Usually I use center tracking and compose.
@Rabbitochen2019
@Rabbitochen2019 4 жыл бұрын
Thanks Mark for this great video. I would like to assign the MyMenu function to a physical key. Do you know (or Sony) how to do that. Thanks
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
On some of the later models you can assign the menu key to always go to My Menu
@Rabbitochen2019
@Rabbitochen2019 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Galer's Alpha Creative Skills thank you. Forgot to mention that I own a A7iii. There, I am not able to find it. My firmware is up to date.
@jonnybondphoto
@jonnybondphoto 3 жыл бұрын
Well done Mark... again! Is there away to assign a custom button to toggle between touch focus and touch tracking (I am not seeing the option in the menus)? I can see advantages to this. If you cannot assign a toggle, am I wrong to leave the camera set to track focus which will still provide the ability to grab spot focus if needed, albeit with tracking? In those instances where tracking isn’t the aim, it may be overkill, but if tracking is required, you have it. Or am I not understanding this correctly?
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 3 жыл бұрын
You will see an icon on the monitor that you can tap and it will cycle between Touch Operation Off, Touch Focus and Touch Tracking. For 99% of the time I leave it on Touch Tracking. Touch Focus is useful when you need to pull focus between two points when shooting movies.
@sallybillman3593
@sallybillman3593 3 жыл бұрын
You mentioned that the a9ll and the a7IV has the touch tracking. Does the a7c have it as well?
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 3 жыл бұрын
Yes
@almostgreen9498
@almostgreen9498 4 жыл бұрын
Why is touch tracking your favorite? Isn't it simpler to just choose a tracking focus mode like Tracking/wide and use touch focus to begin? No limitations like no pet eye af and only the LCD. Was your experience different? Thanks again for all you do for us Sony owners.
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
I am not sure I expressed I had a favourite for all situations as I modify workflows (especially AF area and minimum shutter speed) to suit the subject being photographed. I mostly use AF Wide with touch tracking enabled when shooting movies, but my stills sports workflow, when using the Finder, has to change with the model of camera I am using and the type of action. I provide individuals with in-depth support for their workflows via my Patreon site.
@schlumbeb
@schlumbeb 2 жыл бұрын
good morning Mark-- just acquire the sony a 6100 could you tell me how to move the center focus point on the back of the camera with touch so I can focus on an other area of the screen I use the BBF and if I try to move it it saya focus cancel!
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 2 жыл бұрын
With touch operation set to on you need to check the menu called Function of Touch Operation and then you can choose Touch Focus or Touch Tracking. I personally wouldn't bother with BBF. It doesn't provide you with any additional AF performance and actually prevents you from using some of the other touch AF features.
@alexandrah.4244
@alexandrah.4244 4 жыл бұрын
On my Sony A73 I use the C4 Button for this Option...to turn tracking off or on and I find this very helpful, when I will start tracking a subject . Touch on the screen and it will start to follow the subject 👍🤩 But I don‘t understand why it‘s not so useful on the older A73...the name in the menu from newer cameras is different ...but the result is the same ...or not ?
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
The ability to touch and follow a subject is the same but the term AF Tracking (Sony sometimes refers to this as Real Time AF Tracking) was introduced in 2019. It appeared first on the A6400, was then backdated to the A9 and then released on all subsequent new cameras. The AF areas called Lock-on AF disappeared with these newer models and was replaced with the newer AF Tracking AF Areas. The performance of this newer tracking was improved with additional AF algorithms including Texture.
@alexandrah.4244
@alexandrah.4244 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Galer's Alpha Creative Skills Thank you Mark for this detailed explanation 👍... I’ve learned so much from your experience🥰
@Maximka1100
@Maximka1100 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark. Quick question. Is Touch tracking function is for movies only? If not, then what’s the difference between Tracking and Following? I use A7III, in continues autofocus i’m able to follow moving subject, that what i call Focus following. Thanks.
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
These features are for movies and stills. On an A7III Sony calls the feature that I used it identify and follow a moving subject automatically as Center Lock-On AF. This was replaced on the A7RIV, A9 and all new A6xxx cameras with AF Tracking. This is more reliable than the older Center Lock-on AF as additional algorithms were added so the camera is more likely to stay with the subject it recognises as being different from the background. Sony have also added Eye AF into the Tracking algorithms for movies in the latest models.
@Maximka1100
@Maximka1100 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Galer's Alpha Creative Skills Thanks Mark. Looking forward for our next session for members. I got a 200-600 Sony lens but didn’t have too much time to enjoy it yet. Works grate for the moon capturing though.
@mpsinghphotography1
@mpsinghphotography1 4 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Exactly the information i was looking for, thank you.
@spydertacticalgaming790
@spydertacticalgaming790 4 жыл бұрын
What camera are you using? That would be helpful.. Thanks
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
I use a range of cameras - this is not a movie about a specific Alpha.
@spydertacticalgaming790
@spydertacticalgaming790 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Galer's Alpha Creative Skills THANKS, I guess what I’m trying to get it is what camera is it that has these touch functions you are demonstrating in the video? Thank you
@leodv999
@leodv999 3 жыл бұрын
i have a7s3, i like to put it into marine housing, so, the touch monitor can’t use, i need to use real time tracking for video, not photo, how to trigger the tracking focus in video mode and not with screen touching instead of press button? how to set up? i find out, photo mode still work, but not in video mode? can you tell me , thanks
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 3 жыл бұрын
I have not had the opportunity to review the A7Slll yet.
@vitobrabetz1146
@vitobrabetz1146 4 жыл бұрын
Hi can I select a subject for tracking without the display but with a key? It is possible in foto mode but not in video mode?
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
Multiselector and half press the shutter release or AF-On button
@christianpalmisano5838
@christianpalmisano5838 4 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark, I've set up Touch Panel&Pad but moving the focus point doesn't work when I look through the evf (a6400).........sorry I missed that - at exactly minute 5 it is written. The touch tracking function does not work in EVF.
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
The Touch tracking using the EVF only works on the A9ll and A7RlV- you have to use the monitor on the A6400 and A6600
@ricomx29
@ricomx29 4 жыл бұрын
i must say i'm really impressed if you can use the pad with your thumb to focus on Marc Marques in a corner (at 200 km/h) at 10:00 , do you really have time to do this ?
@ketansaart1546
@ketansaart1546 4 жыл бұрын
Yes, he can do that. He can do much more. He is much more senior to us in this field, he is playing digital since the first DSLR in the world.
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
As I am following the two motorcycles approaching the hairpin bend the camera is not panning too quickly (due to the distance of the bikes) I have several seconds just to slide my thumb from the first motorcycle to the second - this could also typically done by using the Multi-selector. Without good Tracking many sports photographers would be expected to keep a small focus point on the subject at all times, by either moving the focus point while panning or keeping the subject in exactly the same place in the frame while panning. The A9 cameras are more than capable of picking up the bikes mid corner and photographing them takes no panning skills as the camera is hardly moving when the bikes are at the apex of the hairpin bend. As this is a hairpin I would expect the bikes to be travelling far slower than the average speed on the circuit which is 160-180kph.
@princeblade88
@princeblade88 3 жыл бұрын
Hi Mark. Would you have any explanation to what I am experiencing with my Sony A7 III? Focus area is set to "Wide", yet with touch operation on, the wide focus area keeps reverting back to flexible spot focus area witout me touching the camera. The focus is fixed on the lower right corner of the display. No matter where do I rack the focus it snaps back to the lower right corner. When I disable touch operation, all works fine. (I am aware of the "nose" messup, however, the display is flipped out and the camera is clipped on a tripod, so new peeking through the viewfinder). Would be lovely to set it back to normal.
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 3 жыл бұрын
This is not normal behaviour if you are not touching the screen and I can’t think of any menu setting that would cause this. Sony would most likely advise that you try resetting your camera in the menus and if this does not resolve the problem sending it back to Sony for servicing.
@princeblade88
@princeblade88 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Dear Mark. Thank you ever so much for your speedy reply - much appreciated. Yes, indeed, that is what I have started off - getting the camere set to its factory defaults but no luck unfortunately. I will definitely have Sony take a look at it at their local repair centre, and we will know more about it. Should you have any additional ideas that might resolve the issue it will be always welcome in the meantime :) Cheers Mark again.
@quocvietleful
@quocvietleful 2 жыл бұрын
does this function exist for the alpha a73? I used an olympus om10 m2 which has this function which I find very practical. Thanks
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 2 жыл бұрын
Touch Tracking was introduced after the A7III. The A7III uses the older Center Lock-on AF which is accessed from the Focus menus.
@quocvietleful
@quocvietleful 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Thank you
@peggychan928
@peggychan928 2 жыл бұрын
is there touch tracking on A7III please? I just got the camera recently tho it might have released quite a while.. I do take pictures of kids moving quite a bit so I wanna see if I can do tracking on them. Thanks!
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 2 жыл бұрын
Touch Tracking arrived in 2019. The A7lll is a 2018 camera.
@pawelmod3292
@pawelmod3292 2 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Except A9 is from 2017 and has touch tracking function. I can understand Sony, it was added to A9 via upgrade because A9 is/was a flagship. But it was not added to A7III as it is “entry” level camera ;-)
@sallybillman3593
@sallybillman3593 3 жыл бұрын
The 417 page manual is only for the Sony a7IV? It looks like you have to be a premium member to access the manual, which requires a monthly fee. Is there a way to pay for the manual only. 417 page manual is intimidating to me when the menu is suppose to be fairly easy.
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 3 жыл бұрын
I have 400+ page manuals for all the recent Sony cameras except the A7SIII and the when the camera is set up, following my recommendations, the camera is far less intimidating as I show you to operate the camera and completely avoid the main camera menus.
@sallybillman3593
@sallybillman3593 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaCreativeSkills that is good to know the manual encompasses recent Sony’s . What is the minimum amount of months to be a premium member?
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 3 жыл бұрын
Just one month - there is no commitment to stay but my extensive collection of educational resources, seminars and Q&A forums tend to keep people subscribed.
@orlandodasilva8117
@orlandodasilva8117 3 жыл бұрын
Thank you for your Video very easy to follow, but I have a Sony A7III and I cannot find the Function of Touch Operation. The Firmware of my sony is version 3.10. I would love to be able to use the Touch function of the camera, but so far after watching several videos I still can't use it to track an moving object. Thank you
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 3 жыл бұрын
If you look carefully at the slides when I talk about this feature I state that it is not available on all Alpha models. It started appearing on cameras released in 2019 when Lock-on AF was replaced with the superior tracking algorithms of the new Real Time AF Tracking. It appears on the A7C, A7RIV, A9II and A1 cameras and will undoubtedly be present on the A7IV when it is released. I can provided further assistance and guidance on www.patreon.com/markgaler
@orlandodasilva8117
@orlandodasilva8117 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Thank you very much for your reply, my camera is a Sony’s A7III. The funny thing is that I was doing the Touch Screen Tracking. If touched the LCD screen on a face, there was a small white line square on that Pearson face, and if he or she move the white square would follow, I have been using this function and it was working great, but now I can't get it to work. The touch screen works but it does not track a moving object. The funny thing is that on the Focus Area it is GREYED OUT the spot focus and I have no idea how can I get light up, so I can use it if I choose Today I couldn’t do it, and I spent the whole morning on a chat with Sony Support and finally they asked me to reset the camera to the factory settings, what I didn’t do. Later on, I turned On the Center lock-on AF and apparently seams that is working, at least it looks like it was before. I didn’t have time to make a real test, but I will try to do it tomorrow Thank again for your reply Orlando
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 3 жыл бұрын
You were poorly advised by Sony - Center Lock on AF is the technique I recommend as outlined in my video tutorial on the subject.
@orlandodasilva8117
@orlandodasilva8117 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Thank you, and you are absolutely right, I felt that for every question they have to search for the reply. The good information and inspiration I got from you, and I am happy that I found your video, where all all needed was right there. I still have one question: On my A7III the "Lock-on AF Expand Flexible Spot" is Greyed out in all Shooting Modes, Manual, Shutter Priority, Aperture Priority and Program Auto. If I choose Lock-on AF Expand Flexible Spot focus, it will appear on the screen saying: This operation or setting not available as follows: Shutter Mode. Than, it name whatever shooter mode is set on the Camera. Do you know why this is happening? Thank you in advance. Orlando
@hughysaint4178
@hughysaint4178 2 жыл бұрын
How do we get personalized support as members?
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 2 жыл бұрын
Go to the Community tab in KZfaq for access to the member only forums and member only seminars. For additional support including eBooks I would advise switching to my Patreon Support service Patreon.com/markgaler
@mohomami9684
@mohomami9684 4 жыл бұрын
I have noticed that when I take a photo with either Sony a7iii or a7riv that the picture is initially slightly dark then few seconds (1 or 2) later the picture gets brighter, what’s going on? Is the actual file being processed? I have the Long Exposure NR off. I shoot RAW. Thank you.
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
In post production or in camera?
@mohomami9684
@mohomami9684 4 жыл бұрын
In camera
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
I can’t replicate what you are seeing so I can only think your camera is set up very differently to mine.
@mohomami9684
@mohomami9684 4 жыл бұрын
Mark Galer's Alpha Creative Skills I did find out what makes the picture black initially then brighten it up after couple of seconds; it is the DRO/Auto HDR option, when OFF, the photo remains unchanged, when DRO is selected then somehow the photo is based based on levels or AUTO selected. I could not select HDR. I have no idea what this option is for? When should I select these options?
@DanielHatchman
@DanielHatchman 3 жыл бұрын
I have the 6400, I can't seem to get anything to happen while using the view finder. Everything else worked perfectly. So I'm meant to put my eye to the viewfinder then tap the screen (I have it on Right side only so it doesn't sense my nose) but nothing comes up :(
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 3 жыл бұрын
kzfaq.info/get/bejne/hNlheKhzl5vNpGw.html - Note that this section of the video states that it is not supported by most Alpha models.
@DanielHatchman
@DanielHatchman 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaCreativeSkills Aaaah that makes sense
@Hangs4Fun
@Hangs4Fun 4 жыл бұрын
This is a "touchy" subject on Sony cameras, lol
@ketansaart1546
@ketansaart1546 4 жыл бұрын
😀
@aleenaaugustine8614
@aleenaaugustine8614 2 жыл бұрын
Hi i am a wedding photographer...My new sony a1 touch focus doesn't work sometimes and often the focus point itself goes missing.. I'm really frustrated.. It comes back by its own after sometime as if nothing has happened.. I consulted with the sony authorized service center but they dont know why this happens.. Pls help me
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 2 жыл бұрын
Sounds like you need to book your camera in for a service.
@adamz2233
@adamz2233 3 жыл бұрын
cannot find "func. fo touch operation" in A7RIII, version 3.20
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 3 жыл бұрын
It's on 2019 and later cameras. Your camera has lock on AF and not AF Tracking features.
@adamz2233
@adamz2233 3 жыл бұрын
@@AlphaCreativeSkills thanks Mark, learned a lot from your channel! just made the upgrade from A7 to A7RIII weeks ago - like it a lot - despite it seems I helped Sony to clear up pre 2019 inventories :-)
@DragRacingTV
@DragRacingTV 4 жыл бұрын
Liked this video up until the point where you started confusing the OLED EVF with the rear LCD, by using the generic term "monitor" when describing what appears to be some sort of new EVF touch operation. They both have monitoring functionality, so please call it by what it is, which is either EVF screen or rear LCD. Do not use the term "LCD" by itself, because there are some unfortunate m4/3 owners who are stuck with LCD screens in the EVF. The traditional use of the term "monitor" is overwhelming wrt computers, not cameras, which further confuses things.
@AlphaCreativeSkills
@AlphaCreativeSkills 4 жыл бұрын
Monitor and Finder are the terms Sony use in the camera manual.
@DragRacingTV
@DragRacingTV 4 жыл бұрын
Neither of which makes sense, lol. I started with Sony back in 2013, with the a7r, so I'm not new to the platform, I also own an a9. I used to be a electronics tech and a PC network admin, plus I shot video for a living at one point, so I'm well up on modern technology. At any rate, I gave up on this video when he started confusing EVF with the rear LCD, so take it however you want. Thanks for your hard work on the rest of the videos, appreciate it. This is the first one where he didn't make things clear.
@seleemzid7881
@seleemzid7881 4 жыл бұрын
your channel made me invest 13000$ in SONY between body and lens ... as much as i love it i hate it God damn it Sony you expensive
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