Not a backroad; Hwy 129 (Tail of the Dragon) in NC/TN. The Civic is Killboy's (the local photographer in the area) and he makes a living on this road every day. I'm sure he knows it like the back of his hand. Also, he drives his S2K more than his hatch.

@@ShuffleMasta That's not even a backroad? lol...man you guys are spoiled there, that looks like an absolute blast! Both drivers look very competent and their laning techniques are respectful esp. considering it's day time. Would love to see some videos of Killboy in his S2K.

Roads like this are actually made intentionally to keep drivers awake and alert. Real facts

@@F32Koto its the tail of the dragon a well known road that a lot of people visit for that one reason. too popular to be a "backroad"

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They make the beginning of the race a hassle especially if you are trying to pass. Acceleration is key in corners, but entrance and braking can compensate if you can do it better than the other person

From 2:20 on is where it was at full boogie.

Acceleration is best at exit speed.

@@bobwarpath2395 if you don’t have good acceleration out of a corner just treat it like a go cart and keep your momentum which is something Hondas are great at

@@KenKaneki-oi6kh I made that comment 1 year ago. In the time that I have owned my restored 106hp base model del sol, THIS is exactly what hondas are good at. In idaho we have a road called Bogus basin road. Its the state Touge. The del sol can do EVERY corner but the U going 45 mph or higher without having to slow down for them. It feels like a gokart where you always have grip.

Vinskikauski Amourelius I agree. Anyone can drive straight.

Marco Brancorsini yea no. Drag racing is pushing a car to it limits. And when you have extremely high powered machines, its difficult to control 1000+, launch and keep it straight.

Ricky R yes indeed. Both require skills.

Ricky R There are also 1000hp track cars, imagine how difficult they are to control in corners. Drag racing may require some skill but racing with corners requires even more skill and it's much more fun to perform and to watch.

Marco Brancorsini more skill? And you know this because? And yea 1000 hp track cars are backed by millions of dollars, companies, and raced through sanctions. The drag scene can build 1000+ hp cars out of their garage and drive it themselves. That skill is much more appealing to me.

I think both have a place in street racing except if you're not gonna stay in your lane it needs to be real late at night or u have a spotter with walky talkies

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@@Rory695 regardless of the time of day.... quite obviously late at night is best. But you should never cut corners where you cant see ahead. Better to learn to drive quickly in the lane

@@supershifter4836 sure that wouldnt cause any attention from the police at all. 😉

@@boosted1328 I mean, if its in the middle of nowhere

LexusVIP 400 people saying that have probably have never even had a car worthy of a canyon run lol

falchulk it’s takes roughly 40mph with minimal downforce from a properly designed wing to apply 300+ lbs of downforce. If I can hit that speed with my lightly modified 350z turbo making 470hp on tighter roads, these guys sure as hell can. From someone who does this on a weekly basis they are hitting some pretty decent speeds. Also note most videos don’t do speed or distance justice. I’ve been 2ft from a friends back bumper and it looks like 100ft on camera. I hit 80mph and it looks like 20 on the video. I’d say on average these guys are running 40-60 mph. People also don’t realize how much effect on grip rear traction has on a FWD car. Especially ones as light as an EG. 4 wheels is always better than 3. Not to mention the effect on weight distribution.

falchulk dam you must be really bored if you’re trying to argue this hard with everyone.. And oh really? Then you must know more than F1 and The too world race engineers because that’s where I got that figure from. But it’s a general number because every scenario is different. And guess what cowboy, wings do fuck gas mileage lmao It’s a huge amount of drag placed on the car. Aero isn’t for gas mileage it’s for traction, downforce and grip. So what racing school did you go to with this mass amount of knowledge? But I “witnessed” said this car needed it. Just like nothing you witnessed made you have to come in here to argue with everyone. He has it, he probably knows more than you ever will about driving and performance with how well he built and drove that car. Why does this bother you so much? Instead of arguing on everyone else’s videos why don’t you actually attempt to upload one since you seem to be so smart about all this shit. I’ll even be your first view how’s that sound lol

falchulk it’s most likely producing about 30lbs of downforce at the rear but still that’s enough to keep the rear end balanced at higher speeds. If he tuned with the wing in mind then he set up the mechanical grip to have more oversteer on low speed (less than 35mph) and the wing balances that back to neutral anything above that. Obviously without a wind tunnel it comes down to the driver and how they feel the car respond to changes in tuning.

CK_32 Unless you made the wing yourself or it’s off eBay, most modern wings are tuned efficiently to create more downforce than drag. That’s just a baby 3D wing which at most in free stream air will produce about 100lbs of downforce @ 120mph. Now if it was 66” with a 10”+ chord and dual element then you might see 300lbs of downforce at the expense of top speed and gas mileage...unless you’re running a DRS

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Juan Medina reminds me of Algonquin highlands in North Ontario Canada. Someone tell me if I'm right

It's very nice

This is in Tennessee lol

The drive looks amazing!

I was going to say it was defintly somewhere in the Appalachian mountains

Thanks

do you know what engine is in the eg?

@@k.o.7629 I assume the stock engine, most likely tuned though.

Why doesn't the gtr be in front and then see a challenge or no challenge?

BRUH! I knew this terrain looked familiar. I had to drive through this a few times going through TN and back to NC. It was definitely fun lol

Very true. There are some really fast s2k frs/BRZ and others up there.

zoomdirt2 YEAH YEAH agree agree

That civic could very well have the same power to weight ratio as that gtr, with less than half the cost! Also, lighter cars tend to be quicker on the short tracks...(winding roads) ever watch a litre bike try and compete against a racing scooter, on a cart track?:)

Evan Jones HAHAHAH yes it is.

You see they just go it smooth drive cause SLOW IS SMOOTH AND SMOOTH IS FAST.

sleepycb7 my thoughts exactly

Well the eg is legendary in the class its in I must say. If I ever owned a Honda it would have to be an eg for me. That's my baby. To me it's the lambo of the broke tuner section

People love to forget that Honda is the winningest manufacturer in motor racing history. EG's don't engineer themselves.

Let us remember how competitive the B16 EG was in JTC. Even blacktop trueno's struggled until Toyota made the MR2.

sleepycb7 I don’t think either of them are really. Really stupid if you do, that’s how a lot of guys end up down the hill. Tracks are for 110%, cantons are for fun cruising.

ArcadeTom fuck that the whole road is my track lol

Stukatta oh baby

Read the small print, this video was speeded up for entertainment purposes They were not as fast as it looks 🤔

No, they were. It says sped up so that this video cannot be used as incriminating evidence of reckless driving charges ::think

Stukatta yeah cause crossing the yellow at 3:26 for example would definetely kill you

SGTR is that a ti in your profile pic?

WAFLZNSYRUP no thats my E36 M3 forged/turbo frankenstien ✌😉

Swap out your hp stickers with practice

That driver was just experienced with grip

Nahh you'd be surprised what a decent suspension setup and driver mod can do. My Civic is a monster in the corners, but sadly mostly everyone in my area only likes drags and highway pulls so i only get to have fun at the track or with friends.

nah at night time, like 3:00 am they probably take the full racing line

lord thick nipples except you can’t see the full line

Yea me to

NSFWS4 Jā matane HAHAHAHA

Gtr was half assing it

lanesteele240 no civic was better in corners

TM 16 it is harder to chase. You have to worry about the car in front and you could miss break points watching them.

Hardly. All you do is follow the persons line. Leading is harder. The Civic is barely on the brakes and is braking as late in to the turn as he can and getting off the brakes as early as he can which is spot on. Faster exit speed.

That should be a sticker

Encore! Encore! Whoooo

[Shingo tactics intensifies]

Miko Tudio except bakazato has an R35.....

*Cool Vibrations*

Lmao I hate you for this

ChillinYetis lol hahaha

CATEGORY 7 lol.

Carlos Rivera Honda kill gtr.

Except they’re already going almost as fast as they can. For one lane anyways.

Carlos Rivera only in traffic for me for you noobs in closed road.

unexplained wearenotalone hahahaha sure buddy in your dreams!!

filipe beat I like how u use “da” “d” to establish how solid you are

Adam Taylor thank u lol

filipe beat I don’t mean to sound harsh ❤️

Adam Taylor haha ok

The Sustainable Texan neva went to school besides 7 years of english classes bro! lol r u crazy

Aasa Stephenson how it should be done, if you go over you pushed to hard and need to slow down

hack deez look up rogue race civic vs ae86! Like that!..

hack deez sorry touge race civic vs ar 86 insane speed..

Faiz Noeris Yes it's my favorite road. I go every couple months.

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Drift in night then turn off your headlights half the race then. Play Forever Young

Deja Vu!

Same, my roads look like a meat lovers pizza

Raymond Hodges this is around north carolina.

Raymond Hodges tail of the dragon I think in Tennessee

looks like it I've driven it in assetto

Joey Rivera you mean Mexico.

It's in the smokey mountains Tennessee

rallymadRS tail of the dragon

vtecken I'm there all the time, I'll try to get some good downhill footage.

yap..I'm sure the GTR is much faster than civic on uphill. So I think it will be a great equal race on downhill.

Anyway, safe drive man!

MJSMIR yup people think fwd can't corner good but it's all about the driver and skill tbh left foot braking and trail braking are a must plus heel toe

Mrs Magik they cant corner enough tho

Fwd corners as good as anything! The problem is traction out of the bends when you have too much power! Youll be hard pressed to find a rwd car with the same power as a civic type r match its Nurburgring time! Weight on the driven wheels is quite handy on road tyres, rwd cars get too light on the back end and oversteer which may look good but isnt the fastest way around a bend.

Don't forget about understeer in FWD...

They literally cannot corner hard enough to be touge competive in a lot of cases. It's not traction. It's understeer. That's not to say that fwd is bad at all! It's almost self-correcting under acceleration. But compared to RWD and rear biased AWD, they just dont have the same steering angle choices during acceleration.

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I noticed that also. He should have used a pull off instead of holding up traffic.

I don't know how hard the civic was pushing it, but it took all I had to keep up. He does let off near the end when we are past the final mile marker to cool off.

That's killboy's Civic. He was barely driving. He's one of the fastest around on that road.

Looks like the eg is holding off tbh

We have roads here like this one and I can say from experience that just because the gtr has more power doesn't mean it'll win. Most of the straights aren't long enough to let it open up all the way. It's more important to be able to corner and maintain your speed and traction. But then again I feel like both cars weren't going 100% because neither were staying in lower gears. I'm not sure where the GTR's main power kicks in but im sure it's a bit higher up in its rpms. Same with that civic. Regardless this is a nice vid to watch. I thought this was Tennessee until reading through the comments. There's a lot of winding roads in the south lol

runbear fxxx the English fxxx racist what's is ur problem tell me ur point of comment abut English or u stupid fail kill time in KZfaq watch comment about others how the writing English or bad u fxxx racist get fxxx off here.

Ornstein the DragonSlayer u stuck abut English why so hate fxxx racist if u want something comment in the point not abut English ok fxxx racist i don't know English I try best but if i comment u in Greece u be tell me again attack racist comments say me speaks English right because u no understand Greeks so u want say abut stability or boat or go fxxx racist out of here kid's.

ShutUp&Njoy my man I say what i see I no hate any or gtr I watch video and analysis Honda is more stability look back ass Honda no turn but true is truth Honda have better stability lightless lowers that's mean is flat and gtr try but no likes Honda both good cars.

Gtr twice the weight

Xenyx they can't really go full throttle, since the street is still public.

I wasn't implying anything on the drivers more so about how the title is misleading

Its not sped up. They are just fast

It is and he says it in the description now, it honestly make me cringe seeing everyone in this comment section acting like the driving in the video is "amazing" and "godlike" when it's just a couple dudes driving along doing some pulls in between corners. Most of these people probably haven't ever even been behind the wheel tbh.

Xenyx it says speed up for legal reasons so they dont get into trouble smartass

I have videos without chasing anyone but they end up being a bit boring. I don't have any videos with a rear camera. I might have to try that next time.

The civic is a long time local resident and photographer for killboy on the dragon. No the gtr wouldnt have pulled ahead lol.

Who's GTR caught on fire?!! not this one!

///Sixth Gear not this one.

Only 40% sure that the GTR would gap that hatchback because you wpuld here the slip of the tire in the road it doesnt have enough traction pn the road so its hard for him to gap up and there are not enpugh straights on the road so it cannot pull up hard enough.

pbh22a the civic is lmao

Yea that L

Anything but... In my opinion, that Civic was just cruising. GTR would’ve met a tree if it pushed itself any harder. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Doubt it... I like GTRs but this is downhill... And winding road... so very heavy car and Turbo sux in that.. so NA will do better although I don't know if the Civic is NA but there's already a weight advantage so less suffering in the tires and brakes

the guy who drives the gtr said it took it all he had to keep up and the civic wasn’t even pushing to his full potential

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