Can Philipsen Threaten Girmay's Green? | Tour de France 2024 Stage 16

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Can Philipsen Threaten Girmay's Green? | Tour de France 2024 Stage 16 | Lanterne Rouge x JOIN

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In this episode Patrick Broe and Benji Naesen recap the 16th stage of the 2024 Tour de France.
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@asmarina1 Ай бұрын

Green or not, he's already made a huge impact on his career at just 24 years old! He's a hero in his country, and even the continent of Africa. We are beyond proud and only want his well being and safety at this point. He has 3 stage wins and a remarkable success! We love you, Bini and well done!

@joelecho Ай бұрын

Crushing for Bini. Hope he's okay and can protect the jersey 'till the end.

@systemicchaos3921 Ай бұрын

Please give us an epic breakaway stage tomorrow. The GC action is fun but we pretty much know what order they'll finish in for the most part. Miss the chaos/unpredictability of breakaways.

@Megan-fb7sf Ай бұрын

I believe you missed the biggest rest day news - Magnus Court's blue 'stache! Really enjoying the breakdown and recap of each stage - thanks for all your work.

@swissbiggy Ай бұрын

Yep, 200K followers reached :)

@TempoKemp Ай бұрын

Before all these virtual ads we sat on trainers watching live coverage and would do efforts either when people attack or during ads. Best training EVER

@systemicchaos3921 Ай бұрын

I don't know why all these teams are just giving stages to Intermarche/Alpecin, like a strong group of 12-15 could destroy the sprinters teams. But no, they keep believing in their 3rd rate sprinters and keep losing.

@lukehudson9369 Ай бұрын

Well i have sympathy for your viewpoint, but another way to look at it is groenewegen and cavendish have both one so those two with clearly the best sprinters have won 75% of potential sprint stages - sounds about right

@endofthelinex1 Ай бұрын

Points you missed to talk about: -Vingegard confirming LR website watt calculations for the Sunday stage which appoint both Ving and Pog as best Climbers of all time with all time climbing records -Alleged Pog training leaks and San Milan "fraud"

@theoswinscow Ай бұрын

I read the article about you in French in RMC Patrick. My favourite bit was when you said you were a romantic

@rdklkje13 Ай бұрын

Thanks for that reference!

@ChrisBore13 Ай бұрын

Can't be sharing clippers benj!

@peterwilliams4456 Ай бұрын

Jayco have been very disappointing in the sprints. They have a fast sprinter in Groenewegen, yet they only got him into position two times in 6. And on these occasions he outsprinted Philipsen to win a stage and got blocked on the other occasion. Yet in the Giro, they got Ewan into position five times out of seven.

@user-bq7mx2ur1u Ай бұрын

I think of 2 relatively simple ideas to spice up sprint stages : 1) Each team with 7 riders, so that 3 extra teams could be invited (pro-conti teams who are more interested to go in breakaways). Furthermore smaller (sprint) teams reduces the control of the bunch. 2) 4 intermediate sprints in "sprint stages" (every +- 40 kms), with 10 - 6 - 4 - 3 - 2 - 1 points for the first 6 riders and prize money for the first 3 (1500€ - 1000€ - 500€ => especially interesting for the smaller teams). This could be implemented, for instance, in 3, 4 or 5 flat stages of the tour (depending on the parcours).

@nicholasloduca6668 Ай бұрын

Really looking forward to tomorrow's stage and some breakaway action, hoping the bonus seconds don't force the GC teams to shut the race down since the gaps are so big

@rickrichardson1141 Ай бұрын

Let’s Gooooo Jasper 🫡

@vinniamsterdam700 Ай бұрын

Tomorrow the only breakaway stage!!!! Better be in there.

@JCNvid Ай бұрын

If Gee Jumps, Ineos will pace all day.

@tomschenk5148 Ай бұрын

One thing that could spice sprint stages up would be to not just give bonus seconds to the individual rider but instead the entire team. There obviously would be some issued but itv would chicane it up. 😮😮

@geodesy2009 Ай бұрын

Long boring stage spoiled by Girmay’s fall. Just have never liked Jasper. Wout still not there but has always been up there. Laporte has been off too. Wout was on his own again. Off to the Alps!!

@justinbergmans36 Ай бұрын

I’ll be honest. As much as one can criticize jasper, he’s the more elite sprinter.

@alpsalish Ай бұрын

His nickname is literally disaster. Say what you will, but you don't earn that for some benign reason. This has nothing to do with Biniam. He has earned himself a disastrous nickname.

@calvin1148 Ай бұрын

Surprised there’s no mention of the rumor on Twitter of Cav holding onto a car on a mountain finish stage 15? Sure you guys can crunch the numbers

@geojulian04 Ай бұрын

Imagine Phillipsen loses green because of hid relegation and points penalty

@fautqucabele2070 Ай бұрын

Which is the case now. Philipsen lost 30 points and Girmay won 10 points due to this relegation, so a 40 points delta. Philipsen would be in green now.

@AP-wd6dv Ай бұрын

Well it kinda cancels out with Biniams crash today

@fautqucabele2070 Ай бұрын

Girmay was around P30-P35 at the moment of the crash, too far to have a chance given the chicanes and roundabouts.

@howlinhauler Ай бұрын

remove the rest days and make sprint days a short parcours.

@TopgunB Ай бұрын

Phillipsen would be in green when he got DQ d he lost 50 points. He is now 32 behind.

@peterfireflylund Ай бұрын

He wasn’t disqualified, unfortunately. He was just relegated :(

@fautqucabele2070 Ай бұрын

19:17 I do 😁. Philipsen lost 30+10=40 points on relegation. He would have the green jersey now. Girmay could have been relegated on the next stage, he wasn't.

@joshuahunter8763 Ай бұрын

bini climbs better. sorry pal, jasper's not winning green this year, or any year bini is at the tour. and bini doesn't have a world champ leadout.

@lukehudson9369 Ай бұрын

@@joshuahunter8763 Hmm, surely fautqucabele just explained how 2 events that could have gone the other way went against philipsen - so clearly he could have beaten bini

@ts777-M Ай бұрын

@@lukehudson9369 bini outsprints philipsen with ease no cheats needed and every one knows it

@ts777-M Ай бұрын

So your counting points that are for blocking and cheating

@Tontoquienloleation Ай бұрын

@@joshuahunter8763 You mean except last year, when Bini was in the Tour and Philipsen won the green jersey, right?

@rh3749 Ай бұрын

So Pog shatters Armstrong's doped record on Pla d'Adet and next day crushes Pantani's doped record on Plateau de Beille, and it doesn't lead the discussion? I guess it's just better training and tech, like they said in the 90s.

@alpsalish Ай бұрын

What would you expect though? That they are weaker forever? All sport has gotten stronger faster and records broken. All of them. I just want to know what your expectation would be. In any case, I don't really care if they are doping though.

@christopheralix8554 Ай бұрын

Visma is racing for second. They were always racing for second. Even when JV attacked, he was putting time on remco NOT trying to drop Pog.

@lukehudson9369 Ай бұрын

I don't buy the idea that Visma were trying to put time into Remco, 1. there was no need to risk himself to do that as he has finished ahead of Remco every time bar the time trial 2. he attacked Pogi right at the finale and tried to crack him which makes no sense if you are just trying to put time into Remco. I will admit it looked like he asked Pogi to pull through - but surely if that was your plan you would done that before you were on the limit not after you tried to attack him. To me i think he had tried everything else so was trying to cajole Pogi into doing that.

@andretim75 Ай бұрын

The big C. is going around... hahaha... and most of the riders were receiving what ? Oh yes -- right -- it was safe and effective🤣😂🤑😝

@ShawnStradamus520 Ай бұрын

Jasper’s faster!!!🤙🤙🤙💚🇫🇷 Bini bici crashi…🥴

@Je-Razor Ай бұрын

The teams with lesser or no sprinters should have tried to cooperate to make a big breakaway to make Alpecin at least work for the victory. Instead of giving the stage to Alpecin for almost no work.

@systemicchaos3921 Ай бұрын

@Je-Razor Ай бұрын

@@systemicchaos3921 That was exactly my thoughts as well. Intermarche even would have wanted a break to win. So it was mostly Alpecin and Jayco today trying to pace the peloton.

@skyscraper5910 Ай бұрын

Abrahamson is really starting ot make a joke out of himself...

@kristiankasamoen8854 Ай бұрын

He's a good guy that likes to have fun. However he can get a bit heated in the moment and he is questionable tactically. With better tactics and some luck he could be winning a lot.