Absolutely Sir, I do try. The best way to explain how eco mode looked like in the graph (has in voltage signal to the PCM) 2 Mississippis with the pedal floored equal 84% response. Normal voltage signal = 1 Mississippi, floored and 100% voltage signal to PCM. That eco mode is Dangerous, hence why it gives you a disclaimer every time 🥶 ( I had it in sport + for like 10 miles 🤣🤣 couldn’t stand it, to jumpy) Your continuous support is much appreciated!

@@VikingsGarage Absolutely.. and no need for eco mode when city mode does well enough with MPG's ! I use it for response and more fun drive-ability, but mostly try and drive with a light foot.. at least the vehicle does not feel anemic anymore 🙂 !! Rock on man !

I feel the same way 🤘🏻 Thank you!!

Your welcome!

🙏🏻 Thank You!!

Thank you for sharing, thank you for the support!

I just put Ko2 on and I am still adv 19.2 they are stock size, did you go bigger?

Couldn’t have said it any better. 👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Thank you for your support!

You’ll be fine, your averaging the same as me. You’re driving it as you should. Thank you for watching, I appreciate your feedback!

Yes it does! I get 20+ on my stock 2021 4Runner TRD ORP. Eco mode would definitely not even be a choice! Getting 19+ with the performance modes is great!!

Your welcome!!

I got you!!

Thank you for sharing, interesting point. Thank you for the support!

A fellow Oregonian!

I appreciate your support, beautiful State!

I hear you, I appreciate you watching!

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That’s exactly what I’ve been preaching. There’s a reason why it’s set that way. 😉

I believe that manufacturers set vehicle settings to what they do to meet EPA requirements and to get the best gas mileage possible. Sure, you can choose to leave vehicles as they were meant to be left from the factory. Personally, I like to modify my vehicles and for the most part it works out fine and sometimes the modifications don't. To each their own, but personally I like my Pedal Commander on my 6.2l Escalade. Makes such a difference on that big ol' pig lol

Correctly, to each their own. I appreciate you watching and sharing your thoughts!!

It’s a good thing you didn’t buy it, it has issues. (Pedal Commander)

As far as warranty, what they don’t know won’t hurt them. Beware though because they could make things complicated it they think the device is causing it. Just An FYI. Thank you for watching, I appreciate you!

@@VikingsGarage True and true! Thanks man!

Anything that modifies anything electrical will void your warranty. Just hide it

Precisely!

Yeah man this thing surprised me. But yeah find the setting that works for you and leave it alone. Enjoy your weekend!!

Very interesting, thank you for sharing .

That’s awesome! 👏🏻👏🏻

I like that , well put. It’s a problem possibly bond to happen unnecessarily. It only really improved the mpg very slightly, I could have done that with a lighter foot. 👍🏻 Thank you for watching!

One year , lol 😂 I removed it after 1 month, in 2 separate occasions I experienced unwanted acceleration followed by a flashing check engine light without setting a code. Not for me Sir!! But others claim it’s awesome 🤷🏼‍♂️

Spoiler alert, I’ve removed that Pedal Commander since.(I explain why in my next video) My gas mileage reflects my daily commute ( 75% highway and 25% city) Other than that, I stay on top of the maintenance religiously + I drive it like an old lady. 🤷🏼‍♂️ Welcome to the Channel, I appreciate you watching!!

I’m sorry, just not familiar With that tune, but I have hear great things about it. 🤷🏼‍♂️

Força Caralho!! Sou Português 💪🏻 Obrigado por veres o vídeo!

Thank you for sharing , I totally get it!

Wouldn’t surprise me.

You are probably right but I ended up removing mine. My truck on 2 occasions started accelerating on it’s own. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@VikingsGarage Definitely a good reason to take it out. Hope nothing bad happened with the unsolicited acceleration! Keep up the good work brother. Looking forward to the trail videos.

Thank you!! 👍🏻

Awesome, yeah I hear there’s other products out there after buying this one. But hey for what I want it to do, it’s perfect. Thank you for watching, I appreciate that!

I don’t know what it does long run, but I can tell you one thing, I removed mine a long time ago. It’s not good.

That’s correct Sir!

I agree with you completely! for what it is, it accelerates just fine. you're not going to win any races but that's not why I bought it.

I never had the issue, I always loved my 4runner exactly the way it is. As a technician I’ve had a few people that came in complaining that the gas pedal just wasn’t responsive enough to them. My answer was always: “ this is the way the vehicle his design, there’s no reflash or fix for it” I do understand the complaint, which is a ever so slightly dead spot on the beginning engagement of the gas pedal. That’s the way the truck his 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@VikingsGarage that’s exactly a good way to describe it “a dead spot” but once it’s going on the highway it speeds up nicely. It’s in the stop and go traffic where it tends to feels slow and not as responsive.

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Very true my friend, I appreciate you and your continuous support. To be honest with you I loved my 4runner the way it was, I got used to the throttle/gas pedal response .

@@VikingsGarage I’m like you. Used it it. It’s an honest truck. Love it more every day

🤷🏼‍♂️ you probably right!

Never heard of it 🤷🏼‍♂️ There is no reflash available to the 5th Gen 4runner Transmission related. Sorry!

If you're driving in the 35 to 40 mph range and the shifting back and forth is annoying you, just pop the gear lever over to the left into to sequential (S) mode. It will drop it into fourth gear and it will not allow the 5th gear up shift. That'll probably solve your problem and make it much more tolerable to drive.

@@trailrunnah8886 For sure that's what I've been doing for 5 years. To be fair it's only really bad when the AC is on. Also, doesn't matter whether I'm gentle or aggressive on the throttle. when it does it's downshift it's pretty rough/aggressive...almost clunky. I may be overthink in it and I'm sure it's a characteristic of the transmission. I do believe it is very well built. My '98 went to 330K before I sold it to a buddy and still running at 375. Different rig but I do have the utmost faith in the T4R engineering

@@dbarton8651 I noticed the same thing with the downshifts. It's like the transmission doesn't want to downshift, and then when it does it's super dramatic about it. There's a certain hill on the highway near me, it's a 50 mph speed limit. I need to give it enough gas to get it to downshift to third to maintain speed going up that hill. The first downshift is just more noise, then the second down shift actually gets some acceleration going. I think there are two issues causing this:. 1) the transmission is programmed to keep the engine at the lowest possible RPM in order to maximize fuel economy. 2) in direct conflict with 1 is that the engine is tuned to make most of its horsepower and torque at high RPM. Both the HP and torque peaks of this motor are over 4000 RPM. Because of that, when you're cruising at 1,500 RPM at the 40 mph range, the engine is way out of its power band and does not have enough power to maintain speed on any type of grade without downshifting to get more RPM. My other car is a Volvo with a turbocharged 2.5 L 5 cylinder. It makes less peak HP/tq than the 4Runner, however it is tuned to make it at low RPM. It makes peak torque at 1800 RPM, which is where the engine spends most of its time just cruising. So the same hill that I need to downshift two gears to make in the 4Runner, I can accelerate up in top gear with the Volvo. I just set the cruise, and it pretty much never downshifts down out of 5th gear unless I'm in the mountains. Meanwhile, the 4Runner will downshift if there's a headwind. Not that I'd buy one, because I know it will be prohibitively expensive, but I hope the next generation has some sort of a turbo engine matched with the hybrid drivetrain, like the new Tundra. I think that will be both more economical, and a much better driving experience. And I think by now Toyota has hybrid technology nailed, so I would not worry about the reliability. Btw, my 2013 has been super reliable. I bought it 3.5 years ago with 80,000 mi on it, I'm at 140,000 now, and other than routine maintenance the only issue I've had with it is that I had to have the AC recharged at around 105K.

@@trailrunnah8886 Yeah that makes alot of sense, great points!!! Like you said slap it in 4th and deal with it. love my 4runners😎 can't wait to see what the next generation brings🙏

It gave me some very scary glitches, like unwanted acceleration. 🤷🏼‍♂️

That ECO light is only there to let you know when you’re being easy on the throttle. That’s it!!

City driving will kill the MPG… I did make a video to help you improve that. Check it out: kzfaq.info/get/bejne/gKx2a7Kg3LDRoGg.html I hope it helps, good luck!

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Probably not, because the computer is so far advanced that it I’ll adjust accordingly preventing such damage. But it’s one of those things, there’s no long term proof to validate this. As far as the readings that I observed, you are good. Although for every day use to me is way too sensitive. The gas pedal response that is.

@@VikingsGarage thank u for the response I don't subscribe to many Chanel and hate most people on youtube🤣🤣🤣🤣 but sir u rock

Much appreciated 🤘🏻

Sketchy indeed! Thank you for sharing!!

Sweet !!

Very true!!

I sure did, removed it a month after shooting that video. Randomly accelerated on its own. Scary!!

I don’t see how it would put it into limp mode, but I can’t count it out either.For what it’s worth I bought mine to make the review and I’m no longer using it. 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@VikingsGarage Why are you no longer using it?

I ended up removing it, after experiencing unwanted acceleration with my family in the truck. It was to say the least, a bit petrifying . I know my truck well, I’ve never had an issue like that before or since.

@@VikingsGarage You took it out because there's too much acceleration? Okay? So you still recommend getting it though? I thought that's why you wanted it in the first place lol

No Sir, let’s not get too much acceleration and unwanted acceleration mixed up. My 4runner without me touching the gas pedal accelerated on its on full throttle for almost 3 seconds straight . It happened twice.

I personally ended up removing it for that and many other reasons.

I checked again and discovered I was on Sport. After putting on City, the acceleration suffered but solves the low RPM kick problem.

That’s good.

Thank you for sharing, good to know.

I’m just here trying to figure things out to help others. Needless to say I won’t be doing reviews on anything before living with it for a while. I’m glad you didn’t waste your money, I know I did. 😉

@@VikingsGarage well pushed the purchase button and got one coming now.

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I know right!

I believe it!! 👏🏻👏🏻

Yes, it was worth the price. Best car I’ve ever owned, rust and all.

@@VikingsGarage no i mean pedal commander

If I have to be 100% honest, NO. There’s possible risks, not enough research. If you drive your 4runner like it should be driven, you’ll never need any of those devices. Hint hint, I removed mine. I’m a Toyota Master Technician, I know too much too risk anything 🤷🏼‍♂️

@@VikingsGarage Thank you for advice

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Good eyes, it’s a beautiful place. My brother in law lives in Utah. We visit quite often. 👍🏻

It doesn't take good eyes when you live in Utah that kind of thing stands out. I however live in the south near the Arizona border. Enjoy your content as I'm a new 4Runner owner.

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LOL, well stop racing that thing will you!

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I’ve personally removed mine. Acceleration on its own twice. Twice to many for me.

Wow, a little harsh there. But I did in fact state : 1- it does what it promises (removes that slight initial delay) 2- there’s not enough good info on long term possible side effects (therefore, probably not smart to run) 3- I gave you guys my opinion based on my findings for 1 month usage 4- I left it in a way for you guys to do your own research and decide if it’s really worth going against millions of dollars of (search and development) through Toyota. But in any case, not to worry I will take 3 times longer to release the video and spend all my spare time which is very little doing research for the video. 👍🏻 Unfortunately I’m Human and I’m not perfect. Noted for next time!

@@VikingsGarage Don’t mind the Karen Marsh. We appreciate your time and effort putting out honest content.

Thank you, I do try to keep it real and honest! 🤷🏼‍♂️

You sure that that ABS pump isn’t tied up to that system, you might want to look again. 😉

@@VikingsGarage The sensitivity is for emissions. I never said anything about ABS. I know more than you.

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Offcourse it is! 🤙🏻

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