Toyota starts firing staff as Japan’s EV reluctance begins to spread panic
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@douglasvoncannon3073 11 ай бұрын
Good comparison regarding what happened in the US in the 1970's. I experienced firsthand the rapid change from low quality American cars to high quality Japanese cars. American car makers insisted that the market would not change. History tells us otherwise. Innovate or die.
@dont_hit_trees 11 ай бұрын
^This. Been saying it for years. Also, lots of failed American electronics companies like RCA. It’s the company culture that’s rotten.
@davidbeppler3032 11 ай бұрын
The current change started in 2017. The Tesla Model 3 release was the beginning of the shift to EVs. The Model Y and Cybertruck are the end of Legacy Auto and ICE dominance. It will all be over by 2030. 13 years. It just took 13 years.
@bosatsu76 11 ай бұрын
That assumes that Chinese cars are superior... I highly doubt that... Cheaper, for sure. And that's a dead end business model. I think the Chinese are merely tightening their pocket books and realizing their own golden age is over, time to hunker down and survive with less.
@danboyd2725 11 ай бұрын
@davidbeppler3032 The adoption curve for new technology is very quick. We went from $40,000 flat screen plasmas in 1999 to LCD TVs out selling CRT TVs and SONY shutting down Trinitron CRT manufacturing in 2008. Just nine years and a half century old industry was completely upended.
@davidbeppler3032 11 ай бұрын
@@danboyd2725 I know. Thanks for regurgitating information that nobody asked for.
@lanzer22 11 ай бұрын
The only reason why Nissan started building EV was because it wasn't led by a Japanese CEO at the time. They then kicked out that CEO and proceed to make no improvement to the Nissan Leaf. For 10+ years the Leaf remained an EV with air cooled batteries. Just insane.
@LordElpme 11 ай бұрын
The same Nissan Leaf being sold for £31k that has slower accel/top speed, less range and slower charging where as you can get a base model Volvo EX30 or MG4 Trophy for £33k. Leaf is a good car, just 3-5 years out of date
@Mabeylater293 11 ай бұрын
Carlos Ghosn had vision. No question about that. The problem was that his vision also included screwing customers by selling them shoddy products. Just look at the first Ev under him: the Nissan Leaf. They were purposely designed to have poor battery manager forcing the customer to experience battery degradation so that customers would have to shell out $10,000+ for Renault Nissans “battery replacement program”. That’s just one example. Carlos Ghosn is a shister.
@TecnamTwin 11 ай бұрын
@@Mabeylater293 His goal was to make Nissan profitable and he did just that. Your point about the batteries is revisionist history: not true. Servicing and/or replacement was an afterthought. They didn't know how long the batteries would last. They chose air-cooled vs liquid-cooled because it was much cheaper to develop and produce. The LEAF was supposed to be an affordable EV that didn't lose money for Nissan and for a time, sales were hot! But like the World Car of the Year Jaguar I-Pace, not updating a product results in waning sales. Now Nissan has the nice but overpriced Ariya. At least it's better than the worse-than-mediocre Toyota "Buzzforx."
@aristideau5072 11 ай бұрын
I remember that CEO (he was Mexican yes?) was predicting that all Nissan's would be electric by 2010!!
@koma-k 11 ай бұрын
@@TecnamTwin The original LEAF was a good start at a time when the closest thing to a "proper" EV on the market was the "triplets". Yes, the lack of proper battery temperature management was a mistake, though I'm willing to forgive them for that. What I cannot forgive Nissan for however is repeating the mistake in the 2nd gen LEAF. Add to that the mediocre app and associated infrastructure and I won't even consider Nissan for the foreseeable future. BTW we did have a 1st gen (early version) LEAF for almost nine years from new, finally replacing it when battery degradation became so bad it struggled with my wife's 50km daily commute in winter.
@antwnpowell 11 ай бұрын
Here in France the BZ4X (513 km) starts at 55k€, whilst the Tesla m3 long range (620km WLTP) sells for 40k€.
@tvaddict135 11 ай бұрын
In USA, it is opposite. BZ4X starts at $42,000 USD and Tesla Model 3 long range starts at $47,240.
@rozonoemi9374 11 ай бұрын
@@tvaddict135 But the Tesla will get the $7,500 rebate, not the Toyota!
@huidaoren 11 ай бұрын
Both shitty cars
@4literv6 11 ай бұрын
@@tvaddict135 fwd with pathetic overall range, low power, less tech, slower charging and no tax credit on the buzyforks. Check those wheels to. Basically its not even worth mentioning in the same sentence as a tesla model Y, the world's best selling ev.
@BigBen621 11 ай бұрын
@@4literv6Actually, the biggest selling car in the world, EV or ICE!
@sergeyvalerievich5976 11 ай бұрын
Japan lost its microchip industry in 90s, lost its domestic electronics industry in 2010s and will lose it's car industry in 2020s. This is called bad future planning!
@BRYANHENRY-rx2bw 11 ай бұрын
Good info till you state your position. Japan was a model country until the Bush clan set its sights on destroying the sovereignty of a nation built on equality. Good luk. I'm sure you will rise up and defeat the evil with words alone.
@skepticalmechanic 11 ай бұрын
Well said..
@Fanta.... 11 ай бұрын
@@BRYANHENRY-rx2bw lay off the glass barbie mate
@nemesis1134 11 ай бұрын
Yes, Panasonic & Japanese engineers, they were well placed and ahead in some areas in the electronics field but their lead slowly faded. I can see the parallel based on hearing stories of when my dad worked with space program & telecom..
@skepticalmechanic 11 ай бұрын
@@davidz7858 not trying… doing!
@jimkeys7580 11 ай бұрын
Strange. A friend of mine just purchased a Toyota Corolla here in Ontario Canada. She's been told it will be approx. three months before her car will be delivered. Why wouldn't they keep producing if there is still demand? Here a Tesla Model 3 is still almost double the cost of a Corolla and there are not many chargers available once you leave densely populated areas.
@davidbeppler3032 11 ай бұрын
Why would you need many Super Chargers available once you leave densely populated areas?
@Girthon1 11 ай бұрын
Because this chamnel is all about EV propaganda especially for the Chinese EV industry.
@Fanta.... 11 ай бұрын
@@davidbeppler3032 sparsely populated doesn't mean sparsely travelled.
@Notme-tq4xs 11 ай бұрын
@@Fanta.... just need a few on the highway. unless you want them in vacant fields ?
@ricardobrown4878 11 ай бұрын
@@Girthon1 how can intelligent market commentary be 'propaganda'? EVs are selling like hotcakes, just the way it is. ICE is done for.
@document6 11 ай бұрын
Honestly Toyota had such a huge start on EVs w their long history of hybrids (electric motors and batteries, come, talk about a head start!!!) … That I personally don’t even feel bad for them.
@nordic5490 11 ай бұрын
The problem for all legacy auto is, that evs are relatively simple cars, with 40% leass parts than an ice. Thus, many less experienced manufacturers can make evs, buy buying in batteries.
@billybobjones4317 11 ай бұрын
The simple way to see if the Japanese car market will bounce back is to just look at how well Kodak and Fuji Film and the other brands of Negative and Positive Film manufacturers bounced back once digital became a moving force in the Camera Industry. Not sure how well the Ledger bounced back into use at our local Banks, or the Switchboard at our local Telephone exchange :) Seems that once a new Technology or actually I should say, a better technology comes along, people for some weird reason seem to want to get this better option and no one looks back, I have seen this happen many times over the last 60 years as I am nearly 70 and have noticed the TV take over from the Radio, the Hand crank Tractor and automobile to ones with starter motors, the Milk Man replaced by local supermarkets, in fact all the services we used to have that delivered to our front door, replaced by Ma and Pa local shops or larger Supermarkets. Then once the electronics era came around in the 70's, things just took off with technologies coming and going at a pace never before seen. Now we are on the verge of a new era of change, not just EV's but A.I and the combining of both as well as A.I being incorporated into everything we use. Even my Washing Machine is supposed to have an A.I lol. The next ten years will see things jump at a pace that will make the computer era look like a snail pace :). Funny thing is that at every new move, we have people that will say anything and everything to knock the new, they will take out of context one fault and turn it into the sky is falling for that new and it will fail, instead every time these same deniers or naysayers get proven wrong and they crawl back into their holes until the next new thing. Also I hear more the naysayer garbage from people I haven't talked to in a while when I do catch up and say I am looking at buying an EV, I get straight away, oh no don't buy an EV as they explode into flames all the time and there are no chargers and all the other crap they go on about :)
@That-Guy_ 11 ай бұрын
I had a Rav4 Hybrid and it was the main reason I got a Tesla. Not because it was bad but because it was good and opened my eyes to the performance of electric motors and low center of gravity for handling.
@cs1992 11 ай бұрын
Except for the range and refueling issues, I can understand your feeling.
@That-Guy_ 11 ай бұрын
@@cs1992 I have driven my Tesla Model 3 rwd from Houston to Orlando and back without an issue. And charge it for free at home.
@alancobbin 11 ай бұрын
Toyota has been warned time after time the last 5 years,now their denial is finally catching up with them.
@yourlogicalnightmare1014 11 ай бұрын
Toyota hydrogen cars and billion mile batteries 🔋 will rule the world according to Toyota
@alancobbin 11 ай бұрын
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 they also make world changing batteries for their EV’s,truth is their chickens have come home to roost and they know it.
@atombomb6719 11 ай бұрын
I call bs They're playing the long game EVs are a gimmick May change in 8 to 12 years
@zhanglini 11 ай бұрын
They still deny wrongdoings 80 years after they got defeated in ww2
@SpruceMoose-iv8un 11 ай бұрын
@@yourlogicalnightmare1014 The problem with Hydrogen cars is that no one is going to buy them unless theirs infrastructure and no one is going to build infrastructure unless their are a lot of Hydrogen cars around. Tesla spent a shit ton of money building charging stations. At the very least in Japan Toyota should have built hundreds of hydrogen stations.
@danboyd2725 11 ай бұрын
This reminds me of when flat screens took over. By 1999 the old CRT TVs had finally become really good. They could last for a decade without issue and SONY's Trinitron was the best you could buy. Flat screens came in and at first they were small, expensive, and not that reliable. Then technological advancement happened. Within a decade they were huge, cheap and lasted so long people started to give their old ones away. Sony was late to the party because they kept trying to letterbox and rework Trinitron, their flagship technology. Sony still hasn't recaptured their market position. Same thing is happening with Toyota. Toyota internal combustion engines are the best in the world. They have no equal and can last for a decade or two with proper maintenance and even without it. But they're coming late to the EV movement and that will cost them.
@kwalelalipimile3894 11 ай бұрын
Really good analogy, I think of it as we as people have always had carriages, now what powered them has changed with the times, horse drawn - combustion powered - now electric powered. Why mass electric now, same reason as the change to fuel, efficiency. Battery technology being the main push
@user-mj9tr3ym5t 11 ай бұрын
Unfortunately Toyota are a loozer in electric department lol
@msmith3395 11 ай бұрын
You couldn't even give old CRT TVs away. I remember dragging my old but otherwise perfectly functional 45" CRT by the plug through the snow out to the trash cans out by the alley as my new flat screen stood proudly in the living room.
@BoopSnoot 11 ай бұрын
"But they're coming late to the EV movement and that will cost them." Cost them what? Its been demonstrated without question that forcing EV adoption is disastrous and classist, removing personal mobility from the reach of the average person and coming at great economic cost and for nothing.
@Cant_prove_god 11 ай бұрын
@BoopSnoot - where i live my solar panels provide me with more free power than I can use almost every day of the year. Currently i spend around $4K PA on fuel for my ICE car. I can now use my excess solar to charge the EV I’m about to buy, for free. Yes, no cost to charge battery… ever! That means over the 10 year life of the car, I’ve saved a minimum of $40k (not assuming any rise in the price of gas). It’s a no-brainer, and my Tesla Model 3 will be arriving soon. No one is forcing me, and I don’t receive an incentive to buy it. It just makes sense.
@privateerburrows 11 ай бұрын
Ironically, Mitsubishi was really the first EV producer, and the first to market electric cars in the US, long before Tesla. What they did not have the vision for, was making their EV's fast, sporty and sexy. Which is understandable. But once Tesla showed the way, what held Mitsubishi back from using their years of lead in EV technology to try and be more competitive, and have models more appealing? They just sat on their hands and watched Tesla grow and grow, while doing absolutely nothing about it.
@Notme-tq4xs 11 ай бұрын
They all sat on their hands. It seemed to hard at the time.
@SMoore-vj7bt 11 ай бұрын
EVs are a nonsensical clusterfuck in places with freedom of movement over long distances. The U.S. lost all of those except vehicle industry and thus unlikely Japan will as at least their ICE vehicles will continue to sell in the rest of the world that hates EVs, excluding those enslaved Chinx and Europe0ns in their 15 minute sh8ties.
@jeffw3001 11 ай бұрын
Outlander PHEV sells well here in NZ, albeit with a reputation for short battery life SOH
@SMoore-vj7bt 11 ай бұрын
@@jeffw3001 And what do you do when you run out of fuel in the Outback? Not like you can carry a jerry can of electricity. EVs are for woke fools and we will be laughing at them when the power grid is taken out. Go woke, go broke.
@ZacKurtis 11 ай бұрын
Was that really a "car" though? It was a curvy golf cart that couldn't go on the highway. But yeah, we had a bunch here in Seattle
@stvybaby 11 ай бұрын
Toyota stock goes up and up and up as it enters the EV death spiral saddled with worlds largest debt.
@yourlogicalnightmare1014 11 ай бұрын
Stock is up because everyone believes in (a) their plan for hydrogen cars, and (b) their claimed billion mile solid state battery that fits in the palm of your hand.
@stevepailet8258 11 ай бұрын
just goes to show you that there are millions of stupid and ignorant people willing to toss away their hard earned cash because they invest without even looking at what is happening in the world around us
@chivimbe 11 ай бұрын
@@stevepailet8258EV’s are very dumb. It will backfire on the other companies
@4literv6 11 ай бұрын
What a bonfire or boom it's gonna make when it busts. My guess is by 2025 or sooner it's gonna get ugly for LEGACY ice oems. By 2027 I don't think any of the current top 3 in sales will be in business as is anymore.
@patrickharper1798 11 ай бұрын
When do we short Toyota?
@8ballphilc 11 ай бұрын
It seems odd to us up in Canada that Toyota is having a problem selling vehicles, yet we can't get our hands on stock. Our dealerships are sitting with pretty much empty lots. Almost all inbound vehicles are already presold. There is a 2 year wait list for a new Tundra! Why can we not get stock if no one else is buying them?
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 11 ай бұрын
Same in Atlantic Canada. For Hyundai and KIA too. Local KIA dealer has 5 vehicles - of any type - for sale. Salespeeps have seen an EV6, but never had one on the lot... What The Frunk?
@nightdipper5178 11 ай бұрын
The Viking uses "Chat GPT" for his research.
@Furyswipes 11 ай бұрын
@@nightdipper5178 Pretty much this. I had to wait 40 days for a Camry.
@dexlab7539 11 ай бұрын
It’s not supply - they are reducing output…False Scarcity to keep prices high…DONT BUY
@atombomb6719 11 ай бұрын
Toyota is still dominating This content is bs Australia is China's whipping boy
@paull3179 11 ай бұрын
Can't be that bad. Used 3 year old ones are selling at new prices in Canada because there is a very long waiting time to get a new one.
@steveoconnell3228 11 ай бұрын
In the 70s when japan starting selling cars in the UK a common saying was "Jap Crap" that was until it was realised how good they were and then we all wanted one, the perception of Chinese made goods is already that they are normally of decent quality so i don't see any barriers here for Chinese car manufacturers to crab large market share.
@TheSpoovy 11 ай бұрын
You don't think people will baulk at funding the CCP and all it's horrors? I wouldn't buy a Chinese car, I prefer to sleep at night.
@koma-k 11 ай бұрын
Well, the "crap" part wasn't entirely unfounded - I remember Hondas pre ca. '84 were famous for rusting at a pace giving old Citroëns a run for their money... By the mid-eighties that was mostly sorted though, just as both rust and electrical issues in the Cit XM had been sorted by the time mine was made (to be fair, rust was never an issue for the XM, but some previous models were quite bad).
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 11 ай бұрын
Yeah. When Honda motorcycles introduced the CB750, BSA, Triumph, & Norton owners said, "Four carburetters won't work. It's impossible to synchronize 2 on my bike. And of course, Lucas Electric is the tops!" Cray. Cray.
@steven4315 11 ай бұрын
Worked in factories most of my life. The Toyota Chinese plant went from 19k workers to 18k workers. Unless you are affected, a 5% layoff is not a big deal. That said, I agree the non Chinese auto companies not named Tesla are in trouble in China.
@MyUtubeScott 11 ай бұрын
I am not even automotive industry insider and I predicted this would happen 10 - 15 years ago when CCP forced foreign automakers to partner up with Chinese companies.
@dexlab7539 11 ай бұрын
It is a ‘big deal’ as a signpost of more problems to come
@kadmow 11 ай бұрын
And Tesla has nothing, save the face, (and the fans, but those are largely Musk fans) which can't be replaced really. Everything touted as amazing, some things are innovative (copyable by any manufacturers) some are applications of thing from other sectors, while some are downright ridiculous, or even hazardous and undesirable from a manufacturing or governance point of view.... First mover is a benefit, private wealth another, the ability to move before that next stakeholders meeting. An authoritarian can just Xerox the whole system (ok, get the west to train all their business and technical people)
@budbud2509 11 ай бұрын
I agree , first thing is NEVER believe chinese figures china is falling behind and has money problems ( Joe Bloggs YT ) so sales wont be that good The claim that EV's are booming is also a lie cos there are literally hundreds and thousands of registered EV's lying about in fields pretending to be sold and with customers to show china is out performing Tesla ( serpentza YT )
@incognitotorpedo42 11 ай бұрын
@@kadmow lmao
@danielmadar9938 11 ай бұрын
Israel is a small car market (which might collapse with our unfortunate autocratic theocracy brewing), but here Toyota's sales dropped by 30% in the 1st half of 2023, while pure EVs sales rose by 2,700% in the last 2.5 years to 16% market share. The best selling car this year is for the 1st time ever an EV- BYD Atto 3.
@stephenmarcus9601 11 ай бұрын
Amazing! Israel is a great laboratory for nations without national auto champions, but consumers able to buy based purely on price/quality. UK is buying Chinese owned MG at a rate that will displace Vauxhall. Australia almost fits this criteria except for military tensions. LATAM is up for grabs, too, with only GM growing. VW is possibly more endangered than Toyota. Curious to see how sales of Stellantis and Ultium do with these being the strongest Western EV brands after Tesla and Rivian
@jackbraga8637 11 ай бұрын
the writing is on the wall.
@brunosmith6925 11 ай бұрын
Do your best to resist any autocratic theocracy... It's the formula for all Islamic States - and it does not take many braincells to work out that that system of government doesn't succeed. Israelis have the advantage (in general) of having superior intelligence compared to most other societies... Surely people can see that where religion starts to blend strongly with politics, a disaster is looming?
@robsmall6466 11 ай бұрын
@@stephenmarcus9601Vauxhall currently have two models in the UK top ten sales. Corsa and Mokka. MG doesn't have any not since the start of the year when they sold off old stock on the cheap
@MrDamon888 11 ай бұрын
Israel is very specific market. Distances are small, so EV makes sense. In large territories answer is not so clear.
@Thulebeez 11 ай бұрын
The BYD atto 3 has launched in South Africa this month , I saw one on the road today that EV looks beautiful, Now Toyota is still undecided on wether to sell the Bz4x. As far as they are concerned Africans want ICE & HEV but the tide is about to change Chineses EVs will dominate Africa soon.
@elmohead 11 ай бұрын
They missed the boat for phones, and now EVs.
@nilsfrederking62 11 ай бұрын
That the Toyota stock could go up within the last half year is completely insane and tells you a lot about stock market.
@gursharandhillon2931 11 ай бұрын
Here in India, only few can afford EVs. The market is very price sensitive. But if you want any ICE car, the waiting period is 2-3 months for gasoline cars, more than 6 months for diesel cars (for the popular ones of course). It's really insane.. EVs cannot be popular here unless they become price competitive.
@SingLee-on3yh 11 ай бұрын
The smog in India has to be the worst in the world
@douglastodd1947 11 ай бұрын
The Heat in INDIA is going to help EV's to self Ignite.
@archstanton5973 8 ай бұрын
Why is there a waiting list? Don't the carmakers keep a ready supply in inventory?
@ilovepinktacos 6 ай бұрын
@@douglastodd1947that’s the Chinese crap they buy like they sell fake food to its consumers with synthetic plastic
@casperhansen826 9 күн бұрын
EVs will soon become price competitive, but EV scooters are a cheap alternative
@D.A.OhK. 11 ай бұрын
I guess announcing a new potential wonder battery isn't the same as actually putting it on the road.
@gnoxycat 11 ай бұрын
They couldn't even put it in a demonstration vehicle.
@norfolkngood8960 11 ай бұрын
It doesn't even exist outside the lab yet hence why they have to keep dropping the date. Some of the biggest battery tech cos are working on solid state batteries feck knows why Toyota thought they'd be the ones to crack it when others have spent billions and decades already
@richardstewart4344 11 ай бұрын
Thanks for all of your work
@slonold3554 9 күн бұрын
Everything bigger here in the US, everything! Including our mortgages!
@LearningFast 11 ай бұрын
Any company saying they can’t produce cars now because of the “parts shortage” is just lying. That is just an excuse now for not progressing.
@rabokarabekian409 11 ай бұрын
Nice presentation of verifiable evidence, you.
@Notme-tq4xs 11 ай бұрын
@@rabokarabekian409 Toyota doesn't want you to have verified evidence of their decline.
@mcconlogue1898 11 ай бұрын
Toyota is losing market share in the U.S. too. And I own 2 Toyotas. My next car will be a Tesla.
@davidbeppler3032 11 ай бұрын
Better trade in fast, before they realize that the car is worthless.
@TheCrazyMoparDude68 11 ай бұрын
Why would you trade in a good vehicle for one of the lowest ranked cars on the market. Tesla is pretty much junk.
@robbeales5516 11 ай бұрын
@@TheCrazyMoparDude68I agree just give it time and the blind will eventually see 😂
@chris1960 9 күн бұрын
I own a 10 year old Corolla. It will still be running in a decade but the Tesla battery will be dead 😢
@user-rq1mk9hi4x 9 күн бұрын
@@TheCrazyMoparDude68 Toyota trucks are now junk! This ain’t the old Toyota of yesteryear, now they’re cutting Corners like the big three!
@ralphacosta4726 8 күн бұрын
I remember GM saying that trying to meet the proposed new U.S. mileage standards couldn't be done, it would destroy the industry. Then one day they announced they could not only meet the standards, but exceed them! Turned out that a report had come out saying Japanese cars had taken 10% of the California market, and people were buying them for their greater mileage. Apparently Toyota didn't believe the numbers regarding BEV sales. So sad. Too bad.
@davidhumphries3614 11 ай бұрын
A few years ago Fully Charged put out a video saying that mandating electric cars by 2030 was a waste of time as essentially by then the vast majority of people would be buying EV’s. So it came to pass and companies which could not compete did not survive and went the way of Nokia, Xerox and many others.
@crazydrifter13 11 ай бұрын
EV denial is very costly. Many companies won't be able to afford it. The beast of creative destruction is out.
@fredfrond6148 11 ай бұрын
The denial is rampant. I see, INFLUENTIAL US policy makers, say that cobalt is a ecological and humanitarian nightmare. When I comment that the batteries made in China are LFP and have no cobalt and also have fewer raw material constraints. Usually I am met with silence like these idiots don’t understand or don’t educate themselves as to the Implications. It is stunning how many “muppets” (to use Viking’s phrase) are in jobs where their decisions are crucial.
@PAHighlander24 11 ай бұрын
You clearly don't understand the sheer magnitude of the public who do not want an EV, but these companies do. The reasons are multiple, whether the higher cost than CE, the low resale value, the cost of replacement batteries exceeding the value of older EV's, the lack of access to charging for people who do not live in single family homes, as well as other reasons. Combine that fact with the sheer cost of R&D to develop and manufacture EV's as well as the learning curves once in production, Toyota is taking a conservative alternative with their already successful hybrid technology. It may be a gamble, but Toyota has a history of making good decisions in the past.
@oscarholman 11 ай бұрын
Great comment.
@fredfrond6148 11 ай бұрын
@@PAHighlander24 you know what is more dangerous than an ev battery than can catch fire? A car with a battery and a gas tank. Just saying.
@oscarholman 11 ай бұрын
@@PAHighlander24All correct. However the policy trend is ICE is out, EVs are in. Riding carbon taxes are adding to the cost of gasoline and EVs have an insurmountable cost of ownership advantage. Once a 25k EV with 300 mile range is manufactured, and if CT is comparable in price to a Ford/GM/Ram truck…many of the issues you raise will be solved by markets (charging points in apartments/condos), or shifting attitudes (range anxiety, battery quality fears).
@johnjay7822 11 ай бұрын
Failing is one thing. Toyota is lying through their teeth.
@Crosshatch1212 11 ай бұрын
Have you seen all there ev just rotting away ,😅
@user-rq1mk9hi4x 9 күн бұрын
They lie about everything,emissions, safety , whatever it is !
@dennisstafford7801 11 ай бұрын
If you do not continuously innovate, "Your Strength will become your weakness"
@independentvoice6686 11 ай бұрын
Chinese are more loyal to their own brand now. Japan's political stance against China is hurting their products. People are patriotic.
@folkengames 11 ай бұрын
Ignoring EV and making the Supra a bmw z4 while charging 40k for Tacoma is brand suicide. This is the greatest squander since game of thrones s8.
@stever5359 11 ай бұрын
But the did finally do a mild refresh and actually put disc brakes on the rear axle. That only impressed the Toyota fan boys.
@spankeyfish 11 ай бұрын
Pickup trucks and SUVs are both big margin products, that's why they've been chasing them.
@sustainablescott 6 күн бұрын
Excellent analogy
@dylanadams1455 11 ай бұрын
Norway are so EV happy that on a recent trip I actually saw not one but two BZ4X's in the wild, AND a Solterra! And then that was it, lol. Out of thousands of EVs. I saw more Xpeng and Nio than Toyotas, and I didn't see that many of those either. I even saw a Taycan pulling a caravan!
@martymcfly3091 11 ай бұрын
I'm in Norway every year and I can say that I see the most from Tesla Model X/Y so far. But what I see most often next to fully electric models is the Toyota RAV 4
@dylanadams1455 11 ай бұрын
@@martymcfly3091 yes, lots of RAV4s definitely. i noticed a lot of electric Volvos and a surprising amount of VW EVs too.
@virtual-viking 11 ай бұрын
ChatGPT data is 2 years old, so if it says Toyota is in trouble, it means it was already in trouble 2 years ago and things are likely much worse now.
@troy1193 11 ай бұрын
The new Prius marketing is hilarious. I've even seen ads disguised as news stories trying to compare it to a model 3 and claiming it is the car to buy. As someone mentioned in these comments, Hybrids are what Sony Trinitron CRT TVs were when flat panel TVs came onto the scene. It's the best version of a soon-to-be obsolete technology that nobody wants because the flat panel was just clearly superior in almost every way.
@MegaWilderness 11 ай бұрын
Watch Mark Mills and get off your high horse
@robsmall6466 11 ай бұрын
Um..... No flat panels are not a superior technology. They are cheap and scalable and that's about it. TV manufacturers only care about connectivity. Hence no modern TV has the Trinitron reputation
@troy1193 11 ай бұрын
@@robsmall6466 I mean, if you are going to ignore QDOLED or WOLED TVs, sure. The only thing CRTs have over them is less chance of burn in. I do have to say I miss lugging up the stairs that 200LB 34" widescreen Trinitron I had in 2004 and the lights dimming when I turned it on. I suppose it does have today's TVs beat in weight and power consumption.
@robsmall6466 11 ай бұрын
@@troy1193 And still all these latest spin offs from quantum dot to oled still can't produce proper motion, still have black issues, still have contrast problems. Check out the sites online that review them and no matter what you pay the technology still isn't delivering apart from resolution. Judder in 2023 ?
@Fanta.... 11 ай бұрын
Graphic designers still preferred crt's for quite a while i believe due to the resolution and colour output. for most other people it was a case of near enough is good enough.
@ChicagoTurtle1 11 ай бұрын
I’ve worked in a Japanese corporation that has branches and subsidiaries internationally. Don’t think for a second that the bosses there have honesty, integrity, or ethics.
@dexlab7539 11 ай бұрын
Yup, ruthless bosses
@user-lj2mj2ss6i 11 ай бұрын
Ruthless, and trapped within their own dogma. I'm always amused at how it messes up a Japanese person when you try to do something differently to how 'it's supposed' to be done.
@randomjasmicisrandom 11 ай бұрын
I had a discussion on Twitter with someone who claimed that no EVs can charge when it is cold, so I introduced him to Norway, so he then said Norway doesn't count because the population is so small, so I introduced him to the Pole to Pole people who are driving an EV from the literal North Pole to the South Pole, who replied to him and said they had no issues, so he told them that they were wrong and cars can't charge when it is cold! We gave up at that point.
@airheart1 11 ай бұрын
Some people are determined to remain ignorant
@SMoore-vj7bt 11 ай бұрын
EVs are a nonsensical clusterfuck in places with freedom of movement over long distances. The U.S. lost all of those except vehicle industry and thus unlikely Japan will as at least their ICE vehicles will continue to sell in the rest of the world that hates EVs, excluding those enslaved Chinx and Europe0ns in their 15 minute sh8ties.
@user-io8bm6gz5z 11 ай бұрын
like trying to talk facts with a woke person. They just dig their heels in even deeper.
@user-lj2mj2ss6i 11 ай бұрын
Never underestimate the stupidity of an idiot.
@nordic5490 11 ай бұрын
@@user-io8bm6gz5z ha ha ha ha. No one with higher iq even uses the term 'woke'. 'Woke' is a term invented by Fauxnews (who actually claim in court often, that they are entertainment, not news) to appeal to the less educated.
@johnbellamy6449 11 ай бұрын
an interesting article ,thanks for keeping everyone up to date on these things .
@etmax1 11 ай бұрын
Apparently in Germany for the first half of this year electric has outsold diesel for the first time ever, largely due to a drop in diesel and an increase in electric.
@Crosshatch1212 11 ай бұрын
Nonsense
@Corkedit 11 ай бұрын
Hahaha the other way that I see it is. If you look at gov numbers they are twisted just like the Chinese ones. UK secondhand market for EV according to Fleet magazine have catered now all the fleet cars 3 years old have come one the market as no customers to buy them. The only people that want an EV is a lease car borrower or an old lady nipping to the shops and wishes to be seen by her/his freinds as doing there bit in total ignorance to the real facts.
@etmax1 11 ай бұрын
@@Crosshatch1212 It's out of the registration data so it can't be nonsense.
@wonderplanet343 10 ай бұрын
@@Crosshatch1212 Why? “Die-sell” b l o w s out pollution and will soon be illegal new in many places by ~2035
@archstanton5973 8 ай бұрын
*Could it have anything to do with Germany being a Vassal Lackey to MURCA! that lapdog followed MURCA! into CREATING the MASSIVE INFLATION ACROSS THE WEST THAT HAS CAUSED PETROLEUM PRODUCTS TO SKYROCKET?*
@brucec954 11 ай бұрын
Turns out its easy to build a few poor EV's but hard to make large quantities of good EV's.
@malcolmstreet1 11 ай бұрын
and make money out of them - Tesla's greatest achievement is its production engineering
@archstanton5973 8 ай бұрын
*Tell that to BYD.*
@user-uk5qk1zo4k 11 ай бұрын
Very thorough analysis👍👍👍👍
@jgarbo3541 8 күн бұрын
Amusing. (Old engineer here). First cars were electric because IC cars were awful but batteries were the problem, now fixed. Everything else's electric because it's clean, cheap, easy. Or go back to candles, horse & buggy, steam trains, ships, coal home fires? The "love affair" with petrol/diesel is market propaganda that fools only the ignorant. Good show, Sam. Educate them.
@papakokopelli 11 ай бұрын
As a general rule, French people buy French cars, Japanese people buy Japanese cars. Chinese people..... You can easily fill in the blanks
@Martinit0 11 ай бұрын
I think the Chinese EVs have changed the expectation of what a car should be and do for those Chinese customers. Toyota and VW didn't get the memo so now they have plummeting sales.
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 11 ай бұрын
Canadian humans buy snow cars.
@johnporter5828 11 ай бұрын
Toyota's EV's reputation preceeded it....
@malcolmstreet1 11 ай бұрын
Yes, they have zero if not negative vibes
@charleshayden1400 11 ай бұрын
CYBERTRUCK - Sandy & Cory (Munro Live) dropped a quasi-tear-down from the official Tesla pix. EVERYBODY gonna want one! OMG.
@Edico999 9 күн бұрын
China can’t build competitive high end ICE vehicles, but they can build high end EVs which are much simpler - especially with their government’s support. And their domestic market will always favor a Chinese supplier. Someone else commented on the registrations fees which are high for ICE and low for EV.
@pkerry12 11 ай бұрын
The ev age will thin out the weak companies
@SMoore-vj7bt 11 ай бұрын
The EV clusterfuck age will collapse society.
@barriewilliams4526 11 ай бұрын
The EV age will be short-lived🙃
@SMoore-vj7bt 11 ай бұрын
@@barriewilliams4526 glad someone understands. Too many woke fools around in these comments. Go woke, go broke.
@pkerry12 11 ай бұрын
@@barriewilliams4526 hows that? Can u go forward in time and send me photos of that occurring?
@UndercoverScambaiter 11 ай бұрын
@@SMoore-vj7btexcept the numbers don't support your claim. EV sales are increasing in every major car market in the world each year. It's got nothing to do with being "woke".
@vvvci 11 ай бұрын
Thanks, Sam, you are even ahead of STMP talking about Toyota's spectacular self destruction... it's like watching a 2 mile long train wreck itself! Japanese culture has produced some incredible engineers and products over the past century - from the mighty Yamato battleship & carrier air fleets in WW II to Honda, Toyota, Sony, and other companies producing world beating cars and electronics, but as you point out, their deference to leaders culture is getting them disrupted in a crisis way, exactly as they disrupted American automakers in the 1970s and '80s... but Japan is way more dependent on their auto industry than America was even in the :70s
@zoobrizz 11 ай бұрын
False. The big 3 needed bailed out and Will again
@zurinarctus1329 11 ай бұрын
@@zoobrizz Like Toshiba recently, it is basically a walking corpse with nothing profitable. The semiconductor division is under Bain's control, and it barely has any market share. Nuclear division went bankrupt long ago! Instead of selling to a foreign private equity firm, Japanese elites buy it back to shelve it forever without making it profitable. It's a dead company but still walking.
@hangemhighholidaylighting6902 11 ай бұрын
Thanks again!!
@gobfranklin6759 11 ай бұрын
good analysis, thank you.
@pohkhui 11 ай бұрын
If the Japanese car makers continue to hold strongly together, probably will sink down together.
@MsAjax409 11 ай бұрын
Japanese culture was instrumental in changing the auto industry 50 years ago, but ingrained cultures are a two-edged sword.
@JohanLofgren-jc4mh 11 ай бұрын
Reading a lot of Toyota's history when learning kaizen, The "Toyota way" is a must. Toyota believes in lots of values and firing the workforce is against its DNA if you like. Its the last thing Toyota wants to do. Toyota is shaken to its core. Toyota probably bet on the wrong "horses" in the Green Vehicle race, hydrogen and solid-state battery.
@cunnyfunt888 11 ай бұрын
Just to let you know the situation from the UK...the dealerships can't shift used EV's despite massive reductions and new car sales of EV's are on their arse. Strangely enough second hand car prices of traditional petrol and diesel (including 10-15 year old vehicles) are GAINING value at between 3.5 - 5% annually. And let's not mention the EV battery risks...RIP the recent death on the Bremen transporter due to ANOTHER EV meltdown!!
@ricardobrown4878 11 ай бұрын
That hasnt been proven yet. Remember the egg on faces over the UK multistorey car park fire....that turned out to be caused by a Landrover - yet the anti EV brigade went crazy blaming an EV?
@williamconrad1087 11 ай бұрын
China partners with companies who share their expertise then after china learns what they need they do it themselves.
@seamusdelahunty1615 11 ай бұрын
the fools
@Fanta.... 11 ай бұрын
which works out great until china openly slags off and offends all the different countries with their wolf wanker diplomacy and stop being supplied the info and materials they need to do that... no euv machines for you china!
@blackknight4996 11 ай бұрын
Nobody forced the Japanese or Americans to partner with Chinese companies. You went there at your free will.
@gocybertruck8189 11 ай бұрын
This is similar to when Samsung pushed Sony over as the Electronics giant. This time Tesla and China pushing Toyota and other cars over.
@RussellBWalker 4 ай бұрын
Thanks!
@jimanderson4444 11 ай бұрын
Good work Sam, so well you report the facts, I hate to see the Japanese struggle, they have done so well with ice. Jim
@thesw9k 11 ай бұрын
If I was a Toyota shareholder, I would be -really- upset with how they pissed away their market lead. Just mind boggling.
@martintokinaga5261 11 ай бұрын
You should dump those shares.
@danielmadar9938 11 ай бұрын
In Israel, Toyota lost 30% of it's market since the beginning of 2023.
@dennisstafford7801 11 ай бұрын
There is no way Toyota is competitive with native Chinese brands like Xpeng and BYD
@otakuuniteda.s.2882 11 ай бұрын
I have been driving electric for the last 4 years. However I just moved to Japan. While you can buy an EV here, I am finding that charging it is a big challenge. I plan to live here for a while. So I will have to bite the bullet and purchase a gas vehicle. Due to my line of work, I need something reliable but somewhat efficient. When the charging network improves here I will go ahead and purchase an EV. But was a bit disappointed with the complexities of owning one.
@chrishaberbosch1029 11 ай бұрын
What did you buy?
@cohenkevinloriqueen818 11 ай бұрын
Charge at home ?
@otakuuniteda.s.2882 11 ай бұрын
@@cohenkevinloriqueen818 Not so easy here. I am going to buy a nissan leaf for short distances. But charging at homes depends on the available amperage. Most houses from my understanding can only support level one charging. Incredibly slow!
@otakuuniteda.s.2882 11 ай бұрын
@@chrishaberbosch1029 Jeep Cherokee 2023 4x4 and Nissan Leaf 40kw
@Notme-tq4xs 11 ай бұрын
Take the train. Or you live out in the countryside?
@tomquimby8669 11 ай бұрын
I thought the sea temperature around Japan was not that cold
@Notme-tq4xs 11 ай бұрын
up north it is cold
@blackknight4996 11 ай бұрын
@@Notme-tq4xs After pouring in the radioactive water and all the deformed dead seafood decomposing, it won't be that cold.
@greghenderson6011 11 ай бұрын
From what I have seen in Texas Toyota is doing well...
@martintokinaga5261 11 ай бұрын
We are in Australia. They told us I need to wait 24 months (one year ago) for the RAV4 hybrid for my son. And then 12 months for the Corolla Cross hybrid for my daughter. When I was testing the Lexus RX500h, they told me the waiting time is 18 months. This is really failing marketing. When I saw a new designed car on show, that is the time I want it most. Not getting the car 12 months later. 12 months later, I no longer want the car because I have see so many such cars in KZfaq and also on the road already. I lost my interest.
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 11 ай бұрын
Baffles me too. Toyota Canada reports sales this year equal to last year. Where the Frunk is Toyota selling these cars that Toyota dealers do not have?
@richardrowe1538 11 ай бұрын
Finally, overall Toyota still builds the most reliable line of automobiles and trucks (period).
@zoobrizz 11 ай бұрын
Yes. They aren’t sheep. They are smarter than the big 3. I have Zero/O interest in a EV /AV Anxiety Vehicles. But we Love ❤️ our new 2023 Prius. 55MPG 500 + range.
@theodoreschmidt9601 11 ай бұрын
I would say that Toyotas trucks are OK. Their cars are becoming crap. I have had two bad ones and have friends that have had cars that did not go 100000 miles
@bearcubdaycare 11 ай бұрын
ChatGPT is not the Oracle of Delphi, by the way.
@torjusekkje6264 11 ай бұрын
Great to see you
@skepticalmechanic 11 ай бұрын
Bz4 is selling in my neighborhood for $46,600 and is not eligible for any tax rebate… who would buy that over a model 3??? I’m in the US by the way…
@Notme-tq4xs 11 ай бұрын
Get a Y
@xelkim9666 11 ай бұрын
As a consumer, I am not too concerned about what the companies do, as long as it fits my needs(or wants) I will pick what's best for me. Toyota has done well for the last half a century, now it's Tesla and some Chinese brands' turn. Businesses get out-compete. No hard feeling, it's just businezs.
@eggheadegghead 11 ай бұрын
correct
@user-vj9hy8dw9e 5 ай бұрын
What a stupid bot comment this is.
@stuartkidney3257 11 ай бұрын
It's called GLOBAL RESTRUCTURING / RESET --- the automotive industry as known for the past 100 years is OVER. Coming to America - huge changes coming to Ford, GM, Chrysler - none of them will be the same a year from now most likely. A year from now, EV's as a legitimate automotive choice based on lithium will be discredited, and will be crashing and burning by then. Toyota has little stake in lithium/EV; they and Honda will stay in ICE engines - that is where the profits are. Everything else is unproven, including hydrogen/electric platforms Toyota / BMW will co-develop.
@paulholterhaus7084 11 ай бұрын
You too, Have Your Head stuck in a dark hole..........Paul
@stuartkidney3257 11 ай бұрын
@@paulholterhaus7084 IT already is happening...notice the NON-COMMUNIST CHINESE automakers and their LACK OF SALES inside of COMMUNIST CHINA. That is called "restructuring". Grow a pair & keep up with current events, LOL
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck 11 ай бұрын
If you are correct, Ford, GM, Chrysler will do great! They have a couple million ICE pickups to sell at high prices.
@stuartkidney3257 11 ай бұрын
@@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck Ford DOES do well in USA with ICE, they make billions per year; unfortunately, they lose twice as much as that in LOSSES selling just a FEW EV's. Biden wired transferred about 9 billion $ a few weeks ago (yeah, a bailout) otherwise Ford was headed for bankruptcy this summer! GM does NOT make $ in North America, at best, they break even on ICE power plants. Chrysler, is a ....wait for it....A MESS!
@stuartkidney3257 11 ай бұрын
@@paulholterhaus7084 I've followed Toyota for 30 years; they're doing fine; they ARE a little heavy on debt but otherwise, doing fine. They're worried about the 4 door coupe (a la Camry / ES350) segment, but they're #1 or #2 in SUVs most everywhere and have excellent loyalty by previous owners (including me). Pickups are a mess globally; lots of restructuring there but Toyota is not standing around, they're redefining the current market.
@rodmitchell831 11 ай бұрын
Thanks so much Sam
@electricviking 11 ай бұрын
You are so welcome!
@marcusaurelius49 11 ай бұрын
Toyota’s first mistake was naming their EV with a name no one can remember. BZ4something? Really?
@theproffessional9 11 ай бұрын
Hey Sam, have you noticed Volvo is making more money now that they're making more EVs? Wouldn't this imply that they're making more profit from their electric cars than their gas cars? You should really talk about this.
@MartinMenge 11 ай бұрын
From what I read in the last 20 years, it seems that the reluctance in the auto-industry in developing the EV market has been influences by one very important factor. The sale of spares. OEM sales has been a massive source of revenue traditionally. There is also the built i-in obsolescence of an ICE vehicle. The heat from the engine ages the vehicle. My suspicion is that most manufacturers needed to establish that they will be able to get the same customer back 5 to 8 years later for a new model. I think this is why they push for DC fast charging and other ways of driving that might deteriorate the range faster. Making the option to purchase a new vehicle after 5 to 8 years all the more attractive. Also, increasing revenue does not automatically imply that your profits are higher. In fact, I suspect that many automakers in the EV space have far lower profit margins on EVs compared to ICE, especially as they fight for market share. What does Volvo's earnings statements say?
@antoniocruz8083 11 ай бұрын
Exactly. Evs are too low maintenance and long lasting for the industry to maintain itself. Even Edison started making light bulbs with a short life span.
@recoilrob324 11 ай бұрын
@@MartinMenge The EV market is NOT 50% of all vehicles....not even close. So all of these companies gearing up production to meet this mark are going to end up with millions of EV's sitting on the lots unsold. Mark my words...forcing the companies to build vehicles that in the end won't sell is going to drive many into bankruptcy. Only Tesla can make a profit on their EV's and are everyone else are increasing the ICE prices trying to cover the losses. EV's in China sort of makes sense because they have lots of coal electric generation and must import all of their oil....where here in the USA we have plenty of oil and natural gas so we don't need EV's.
@chrisheath2637 11 ай бұрын
@@antoniocruz8083 Marketing and business "gurus" probably think that having a swiftly ageing product, with high maintenance, high servicing costs, and reliance on high cost Stealerships is a wonderful business model - great and increasing revenue streams as the vehicle ages...and, in this world of disposables, they expect people to be happy to lose 50% of a high cost item in 5 years. As a frugal ageing man, I beg to differ - EVs (from a decent manufacturer) will prove to be far hardier, and long lasting , will f**k those Stealerships in the face, prove the stupidity of marketing "gurus" who have fed off the blood of the consumer for far too long - and will show that those manufacturers who make well designed and long lasting products will do much better, while catering for the consumer, than the predatory business practices of Legacy Auto, and their bloodsucking sidekicks, the Stealerships...
@chrisheath2637 11 ай бұрын
@@recoilrob324 Yeah, you're right, except in the States, NO-ONE is "gearing up" to make EVs, except pure EV makers - because they see enough profit from ICE vehicles. And it's wonderful that the States doesn't NEED EVs, because they have enough oil and gas - but some might say, they are BURNING too much oil and gas....
@halohat2286 11 ай бұрын
Question Sam - How much, if any, do you think any anti Japan issues play into Toyota slow sales? I'm asking because I've heard there is some anti Japan issues in China though I personally have no idea if true or to what extent. Thank you for your channel Sam ❤
@davidk.d.7591 11 ай бұрын
China has been anti Japan since WW2. Didn't stop Japanese carmakers from thriving there. The decline is new and it's definitely because of EV's
@dexlab7539 11 ай бұрын
Exactly right! The West is banging WAR DRUMS against Chinese…why would they buy German or Japanese cars
@tren133 11 ай бұрын
Toyota, Honda, and Nissan, via their JVs have been selling upwards of 5 million cars a year, every year, for DECADES now in China, and it isn't like anti-Japanese sentiments just popped up in 2023. When Sino-Japanese relations become relatively tense over the years, Japanese brand car sales in China will go down a bit temporarily due to those political tensions, but Chinese consumers have largely been quite loyal to Japanese brands over the years, for the same reason Toyota et al sold well in other countries, e.g. their products are fuel efficient, not too expensive, and have a good reputation for reliability. So this recent dip is almost certainly not due to nationalism/political reasons. The Chinese car consumers have pivoted to EVs and PHEVs very very quickly, and the Chinese automakers (and Tesla) have pivoted equally quickly to offer them EVs to buy, while Toyota and the Japanese carmakers have not. Therefore consumers are voting with their wallets and stopped buying Toyotas.
@jiangXS 11 ай бұрын
No, I am Chinese, and sales have been growing rapidly since BYD announced the permanent discontinuation of pure fuel vehicles in April last year, while the sharp decline in sales of Toyota, Nissan and Honda occurred in June last year, according to my observation，and bz4x is the object of ridicule, you can buy any brand of electric car in China is better than it，Toyota has no brand effect in the field of electric vehicles, even Mercedes-Benz, BMW and Audi
@jimgraham6722 5 ай бұрын
There are still some Chinese alive who remember the Japanese invasion. The Japanese often treated the Chinese in the occupied areas with extreme cruelty. Unsurprisingly they haven't forgotten.
@michaelharrison7072 11 ай бұрын
Toyota not falling for ev nonsense !
@amelierenoncule 11 ай бұрын
As Mr. Sherlock Holmes once said, "The best laid plans of the mice and Japanese, often go awry. "
@johnditoro1676 11 ай бұрын
But their new US ad campaign says that they have the most "electrified cars" in the world! What a joke!
@christopherj2231 11 ай бұрын
You might be due for a haircut...I could be wrong.
@davidgcorbett3883 11 ай бұрын
I would’ve thought the other major reason the ice cars aren’t selling well in China is because of the registration costs depending on the province. Varying between 10 and $17,000 to register compared to 0 registration cost for an EV ! Big bucks before lunch
@orangetube1 11 ай бұрын
Could be. Either way EVs are selling.
@bradwright491 11 ай бұрын
In 1903, a banker turned down loaning money to the Ford motor company because the automobile was just a fad and the horse was here to stay. 120 years later, Toyota is clamming that E.V.s are just a fad, but the internal combustion engine is here to stay.
@praetorian3571 10 ай бұрын
In my country, there is a long waiting list for most of popular Toyota car!! Toyota doing fine.
@user-rq1mk9hi4x 9 күн бұрын
For a while !
@desertdan100 11 ай бұрын
I liked the Subaru model and style. I even seriously wanted one as was going to buy one. I am in the US and if they actual came down to 20,000.00 , I would have snatched one up. The range and misrepresented range gave me cause to wait and see. Then the wheels coming off made me reconsider. I liked the car when I saw it in person but it was not equal to it's Grandpa. The appeoach and departure angles were sub par. The underbelly ground clearance was not as good and the range was dismissal. In my area we loved the Subaru peoducts for Winter driving and light offroading. There was no way in hell the new EV version was going to be able to do what those that came before it could. They took a promising platform and ruined it.
@BlondieSuperdog 11 ай бұрын
The Japanese government is panicking; not Toyota or Honda. Toyota knows Lithium EVs are a dead end niche due to a limited lithium supply. The industry really knows it or they wouldn't researching so hard for an alternative.Toyota knows EVs will never work large scale without a cheaper scaling, safe chemistry. They know they lead in solid state tech and patents. Toyota knows that EVs will go no where without a new generation of batteries superior to lithium.
@pegefounder 11 ай бұрын
Have seen several KZfaq videos about Japan culture in the last days. Commented one: Seems nobody dares to tell the CEO of Toyota, that hydrogen cars are nonsense.
@janetrussell3288 11 ай бұрын
Surely this will be the year the Japanese car manufacturers, including Toyota, have to accept that car markets around the world are shifting to EVs.
@stevepailet8258 11 ай бұрын
to little to late. will take toyota 4-5 years to make the turn around. They have to design then create EV plants
@MartinMenge 11 ай бұрын
I suspect they are concentrating on markets in the global south where EV adoption will take at least a decade or two longer than in the industrialised (incl. China) world. This should give them time to catch up. But I think China will dominate in EVs for decades to come. There has been enduring efforts, facilitated by the state, to secure supply chains for battery supply. While the west has imposed sanctions on certain nations, especially in Africa, Chinese investors jumped on this to secure mineral rights, buy up mining operations and invest in infrastructure to facilitate beneficiation.
@morbid747 11 ай бұрын
It's already too late as China car companies already own most of the patents for EV tech , controlled most production of Lithium , Graphite etc used in making car batteries.
@stevepailet8258 11 ай бұрын
@@MartinMenge belt and road is not working for china.. they were basically buying diplomatic credit.. Most all countries who entered into these contracts are now in default. Some are even in bankruptcy Going to be interesting to see the fall out. China is beyond bankruptcy with all the provinces now basically bankrupt. All the private lending is causing many places to start layoff of civil workers. Add to this the collapse of industrial output due to the EU and the usa slowing there imports from china. Real unemployment is pegged at 50%. Going to be interesting seeing how the CCP handles this
@MartinMenge 11 ай бұрын
@@stevepailet8258 I think you're reading too much into western media's wishful thinking. Belt and road is working very well and BRICS is well on their way to establishing a global trade network free of USD dominance.
@craigcullen4171 11 ай бұрын
Tesla sacked over 10,000 staff last year and 5,000 this year. You didn’t report on that or the 1000,00 of teslas under recall last month. Or the 23,000 complaints tesla has received and ignored about its cruise control not working being dangerous. Or that there is a huge demand for Toyota product there is a 4 year wait on one of its Land Cruiser models and over a year wait on some others . Or that hybrids are far more popular and out sell EVs
@chrishar110 12 күн бұрын
The last time I checked an EV was the best seller for 2023. What are you talking about?
@chasf3433 11 ай бұрын
Moving on from China, Toyota is a huge and trusted brand in Europe and USA and backs all it cars with a 10 year warranty scheme. The question is how many years it has to add attractively sized and priced EVs to its current good selling model range before it starts losing overall market share.
@dblissmn 11 ай бұрын
It sounds like a total cluster by Toyota. You can't find Toyotas in stock in the US, and yet they have all this surplus stock in China of the SAME BASIC VEHICLES that they're sold out of in the US, except they'll require significant modifications for the US market if they were to be shipped here.......
@christianmungo2342 11 ай бұрын
Wouldn’t touch an EV if you paid me
@Prospertxre 11 ай бұрын
Toyotas not in trouble they just recognizing the EVs are not the way forward. There’s only so much market that can be created by the government handing out money and the people that decided to take the money already have EV’s. For the rest of us we can think the technology is neat, but it’s nowhere near ready for prime time. There are too many compromises. Any new technology is supposed to be better than the previous technology and if it is, then the market will determine what wins. The only thing, forcing EV’s down our throat are governments.
@Notme-tq4xs 11 ай бұрын
Is this a post from 2012 ?
@chrishar110 12 күн бұрын
@@Notme-tq4xs No, he just woke up. Poor guy, he was in coma for 15 years.
@andrewb8548 11 ай бұрын
How many electric vehicles offset the emmissions of 2x 18,000,000lbs of steel smelted to make the 2 bulk carriers sunk by electric vehicles?
@rambo4war 11 ай бұрын
The Japanese have made the Prius/hybrids so perfect that they do not want to go down the EV road……who knows when they will take it seriously. Legacy tech, legacy auto…..
@drewthompson7457 11 ай бұрын
I don't see oil companies shutting down yet. I believe ICE will be around for at least a few more decades. As of now, there is no EV that will suit my lifestyle. It will be interesting to see what present EV resale prices will be in a decade. I believe a n EV makes a good commuter car, but a small, cheap ICE plus fuel can be cheaper.
@ChickensAndGardening 11 ай бұрын
reports of hybrid's death are greatly exaggerated... right now, the best technology is PHEV.
@paulholterhaus7084 11 ай бұрын
Perfect..??...........Perfectly expensive................Paul
@drewthompson7457 11 ай бұрын
@EnriqueThiele : My last commuter car I bought for $12,000. Fuel economy was good, 42 mpg in rush hour. It lasted 13 years. It was cheap to operate. I've seen articles, (how true?), that in some European countries, gas is cheaper than electricity for cars, not to mention buying an EV. EVs continue to improve. New "world changing" batteries a few times a week. Resale value on a 10 yr old EV? At this time, a PHEV would make sense for me, but none exist that will work for me. I could use electric for around town trips, and still be able to tow my boat to events 100s of miles away, with only short stops for fuel. No EV does this yet, and dropping off the trailer to use a charging station, then hooking up again doesn't sound as the convenient thing to do either. I saw an article on the Ford Lightning only going 85 miles between charges while towing, and they mentioned that charging stations aren't set up for trailers. I saw another Ford Lightning review that had the owners spend 14 hr charging from a 240 v clothes dryer outlet. I'll wait.
@yulusleonard985 11 ай бұрын
@@drewthompson7457 The problem is not oil company, its the Oil. The war with Russia teach everyone that oil logistic actually very complicated. If you are American then you have less to worry than rest of the world since your government dont have problem to invade/bomb other countries just to keep you happy. For the rest, that not happening.
@nightdipper5178 11 ай бұрын
This 'story' doesn't mesh with my local toyota dealerships empty lots. They can't keep anything in stock. California is #1 FOR ev's but toyotas are still selling before they get to the dealership. *Reality bites*
@RomtimBS 11 ай бұрын
This channel and it's viewers are insanely biased. Hate and drama sells more than facts.
@ricardobrown4878 11 ай бұрын
@@RomtimBS if the stats presented arent correct, challenge them....with facts.....not emotion.
@RomtimBS 11 ай бұрын
@@ricardobrown4878 didn't u read my other comment to this video with links to facts? bruh, learn to read
@sret7880 11 ай бұрын
No worries, Japan still has its anime industry :)
@jasonarmstrong8541 11 ай бұрын
EV market is not going to happen worldwide. I dare anyone to park their EV in a garage of your home.....
@imatalkin4358 11 ай бұрын
I’m glad Toyota is finally realizing people don’t want EV
@bearvideostm6479 11 ай бұрын
People do want EV. Just not cr😮p ones
@mlann2333 11 ай бұрын
Think you missed the point of the entire video..
@paulholterhaus7084 11 ай бұрын
Kinda have that backwards, Don't You..??..........They now see EV is what the World wants.......Have You been living in the dark the past couple Years..????...............Paul
@MyUtubeScott 11 ай бұрын
Ok its obvious that CCP set up a process that was never going to allow foreign automakers succeed in China. But here in US, its just about impossible to purchase Toyota. Just the other day I was given a 8 - 10 month estimate for a vehicle to arrive. Yet I can stop at Tesla outlet and buy a car today. So what gives Sam?
@kevinlin4895 11 ай бұрын
It's not obvious to Tesla.
@jackzhi3172 11 ай бұрын
"its obvious that CCP set up a process that was never going to allow foreign automakers succeed in China" So Tesla is a Chinese company?
@user-bs8xe4dy1i 5 ай бұрын
ChatGPT is trained on two year old data. Whatever it said about what Toyota needs to do, Toyota needed to do that two years ago.
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