Toyota will stop using its 'old' hybrid tech and switch to new BYD systems
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@willdoe7681 Ай бұрын
So North America bans BYD, but slap a Toyota logo on them and Jack the price by 30 points and they are just fine
@WANDERER0070 Ай бұрын
You got it 😂
@JoanneLeon Ай бұрын
We shall see
@ChickensAndGardening Ай бұрын
Even Ford is using made-in-China components. The F150 is about 40% foreign-made, even though it's considered the most American of trucks. This is just the reality of our interdependent world. In my opinion, TM is being very pragmatic and realistic here, buying components that someone else can make cheaper and better. History is littered with failed corporations that had a "not invented here" mentality.
@jogana6909 Ай бұрын
The United States only increased taxes on China's whole vehicles, and did not mention parts. In fact, the US market is full of all kinds of China auto parts (including for ICE and EV).
@cb250nighthawk3 Ай бұрын
That's why there are those homeless people. 😢
@marcionphilologos5367 Ай бұрын
The HYBRID cars of TOYOTA use between 4.5-6 L/ 100 KM, which is remarkable. Yet, it seems that the Chinese and BYD (helped by Geely) have reahced efficiency of under 3 L/ 100 KM. HOW????????????????? 1. bigger battery, which is used for speeds under 80km (ICE CARS ARE HIGHLY INEFFICIENT AT LOW SPEEDS) 2. the new 1.5 ICE engine is highly efficient by combining Direct Injection Turbo Charging, and a secret new TECH.. SO, THESE NEW CHINESE HYBRIDS USE 50% LESS GAS AS THE AVERAGE CAR ON THE ROAD....... MIND BLOWING.
@JanYeeD Ай бұрын
Helped by Geely? No way. BYD is proud of its so called vertical integration. How come it gets help from other competitors?
@terryzn-fb Ай бұрын
Current BYD hybrid efficiency is around the same as TOYOTA's, yet its more powerful. And as a PHEV with a large battery, people can use the car like a pure BEC and get more advanced entertainment system.
@user-hx3pd8zi5l Ай бұрын
Idk I recycle metal 4 a live n.love it.but it's take n me a wile 2 get around the idea of take n a old vehicle out of the field and play with it 4 a hr and then go n 4 a drive in it.but on the other hand once a e car is aged n unsafe it just won't move
@freeflowtrader Ай бұрын
It’s basically GM’s voltec plug in hybrid system but with better battery and continuous charging, too bad GM no longer wants to do this anymore they been losing money on every plug in hybrid ever since 2011 2012. If GM were to do BYD style hybrid it could have worked, maybe not plug in, because complicated electrical circuits and electricity supply management software combined with full self driving is headache.
@nagi-springfield93 Ай бұрын
byd phev help by geely? Lol what joke am I reading right now
@RonnyJakobsson Ай бұрын
It's time for the new BoYoDa
@cb250nighthawk3 Ай бұрын
It sounds pretty good. 🎉
@tdmb8883 Ай бұрын
ingenious
@MarksFutureGains Ай бұрын
😂😂😂😂
@undisclosedthai Ай бұрын
BYota / ToYD
@coolewily8185 Ай бұрын
inChina we call another way : be your dad😂
@sickg6417 Ай бұрын
recently Japan published a manual book breaking down a BYD model thoroughly bit by bit, stating that every car engineer in Japan should read it price of the book was around 20,000 dollar a copy, not kidding
@ChickensAndGardening Ай бұрын
Wow who published that - some government bureau? That sounds like the Japanese, acknowledging and paying respect to a superior opponent like it's a sumo match! They did it to the U.S. all through the 1950s-60s and then surpassed the U.S. in almost every industry. Then Korea did it to Japan, and now China's doing it to all of us. Will Japan turn it around and outcompete China eventually? It'll be fascinating to watch this unfold.
@jogana6909 Ай бұрын
When the sales volume of BYD is increasing, it is a correct choice to study BYD products (instead of criticizing consumers).
@deepseer Ай бұрын
@@ChickensAndGardeningIt's Toyota breaking down a BYD Seal. No one said "should read" except editors (and maybe engineers involved?) from Toyota.
@sickg6417 Ай бұрын
@@ChickensAndGardening a research institute from nikkei, which is a media group that also presents the japan's stockmarket index
@cb250nighthawk3 Ай бұрын
Okay, I'm getting a copy. 😂😂😂
@jimmielin1141 20 күн бұрын
BYD just came out with a new model of hybrid car that has range of over 2000 kilometers
@yourcrazybear 17 күн бұрын
"BYD just came out with a new model of hybrid car that has range of over 2000 kilometers" When running on fossil fuel. So yeah. An impressive ICE car then?
@jackminao2060 11 күн бұрын
@@yourcrazybearcope
@yourcrazybear 11 күн бұрын
@@jackminao2060 "@yourcrazybear cope" Do you? I noticed that you didn't have any real counter arguments.
@jackminao2060 11 күн бұрын
@@yourcrazybear It is equipped with the DM-i 5.0 PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle) powertrain. It's not an ICE car like what you are claiming.
@yourcrazybear 11 күн бұрын
@@jackminao2060 "@yourcrazybear It is equipped with the DM-i 5.0 PHEV (Plug-in Hybrid Electric Vehicle) powertrain. It's not an ICE car like what you are claiming." On the contrary. It's an ICE car. Or are you going to claim that it lacks an internal combustion engine?
@JJ20182 Ай бұрын
I've been telling people that the BYD hybrid is far more advanced than Toyota's, and finally, they're starting to believe it.
@jacobfoster3021 Ай бұрын
How is it more advanced? I haven't been able to find much detail on BYDs.
@GS-lf4rk Ай бұрын
@@jacobfoster3021take some mandarin class and start watch some Chinese car review channel. That’s the only way.
@wanderingwalle8726 Ай бұрын
@@jacobfoster3021BYD DMI DMO DMP are all EV at heart, compared to toyota THS and Honda IMMD which are ICE based hybrids. BYD is much better at electric drive trains, control, batteries than Toyota.
@Modern_CarWorld Ай бұрын
@@jacobfoster3021Search for DM-I and DM-O SYSTEM
@dalao2yang 20 күн бұрын
@@jacobfoster3021BYD just released the new sea lion hybrid car this week. 2.9 L per 100 km! One filling run 2000 KM.....crazy.
@Kay-cy9vi 20 күн бұрын
Biden just broke the American dream to own a chinese car😂😂😂😂 Americans will be jealous about the neighboring Mexican for their dream Chinese cars😂😂😂😂
@Klentung8989 25 күн бұрын
An Aussie who collected their Tesla after ordering it has recieived a nasty shock just two weeks later. Jason C from the Sunshine Coast said he ordered a Model Y RWD for $60,900 plus on-roads. Two weeks later he spotted a price drop of $5000 to $55,900 for the same deal.
@katherandefy Ай бұрын
Good to know the details especially about NMH because I certainly recall when that came out as rechargeables. Like AA and AAA batteries for small stuff. Really old tech now.
@warheadsnation Ай бұрын
Up to now there were no plug-in hybrids under $20,000 anywhere. BYD just announced the new Qin Plus DM-i PHEV for $11,000. All-electric range of 34 miles. Hm, do you think costs played a role in Toyota's decision?
@tomtube1012 Ай бұрын
Maybe the new Toyota hybrids will finally support "real" L2 charging. I "almost" bought a Prius Prime until I found out that their L2 charger operates at 1/5 the power of "real" L2 charging. Prius Prime max charging is 3.3 kW whereas "real" L2 maxes out at 19.2 kW. Public chargers charge you based on mins of use, not amount of power you use. So it'll cost you 5 times more to charge your Prius Prime at a public charging station. (I live in a condo that's not EV equipped, so I would have to rely on public charging.)
@yulusleonard985 Ай бұрын
The reason why Toyota phev batteries last longer because it slow to charge. With Prius Prime storing its battery inside vehicle if it can use fast charging it will blow up and can kill you. Just like dozen of 'burning chinese ev" which actually phev. So far only the LATTEST Chinese phev with battery UNDERNEATH the vehicle can use fast charger safely which BYD are best seller.
@tomtube1012 Ай бұрын
@@yulusleonard985 Well they can store it UNDERNEATH the vehicle lol. I'm not sure what your point is. My whole point is that I hope the NEW hybrid will support full L2. And you admit that it can lol.
@yulusleonard985 Ай бұрын
@@tomtube1012 Prius still store the battery inside the car. Chinese hybrid can fast charge because they use LFP.
@yulusleonard985 Ай бұрын
@@tomtube1012 So far only new Chinese hybrid put batteries underneath the car.
@tomtube1012 Ай бұрын
@@yulusleonard985 So what? This is a NEW Toyota hybrid, so why can't they put the batteries underneath the car like NEW BYD hybrids? lol
@Claro1993 Ай бұрын
Funny thing is my local BYD Dealer happens to be beside a Toyota dealer.
@jimgraham6722 Ай бұрын
Perhaps explains why around here Toyota service centres are doing maintenance on BYD BEVs.
@leedaq7767 Ай бұрын
damm who knew Toyota would buy BYD tech!
@ttkddry Ай бұрын
They have a joint venture...
@mikewallace8087 Ай бұрын
It's Toyota tech being manufactured by those people . Toyota has their own quality control departments installed in the factory to make sure they are not cheating quality control.
@gregbailey45 Ай бұрын
@@mikewallace8087So BYD is really Toyota? Give me a break...
@Mr11ESSE111 Ай бұрын
who knows for how long if BYD start to be unreliable !! Toyota was buying BMW diesel engines too few years ago but reliability was crap
@DW-op7ly Ай бұрын
@@mikewallace8087 there is a reason Toyota is losing out to BYD these days As BYD is producing high quality cars, stop with the ignorance and do some research before you post
@FrancisFjordCupola Ай бұрын
Around the turn of the century Toyota seemed forward looking, but it felt like they stagnated in that time and place. Were they busy with making progress, their batteries would gradually improve (bigger, more electricity, range) and eventually should have introduced plugging in and recharging. Now I did not keep track, but I cannot remember anything like that happening. So in effect, the Prius remained the less worse option but then with less promise for the future for the future came and left it behind.
@ChickensAndGardening Ай бұрын
Yet for all that rhetoric about Toyota being a dinosaur, their cars are still high quality in construction & engineering, and they are famous for "running forever". If you buy a Camry today, it will still be working 15 years from now and 200,000 miles later. Can you say the same about BYD? Reports are coming out that BYD's components are cheaper and have a "made in China" type of quality that means they won't last as long. But time will tell.
@davidpickard9393 Ай бұрын
I drive a hybrid because it is nearly as smooth as an EV at 2/3rd of the price. The mileage I drive is not enough to recoup the extra cost.
@yourcrazybear 17 күн бұрын
So in other words a waste of money.
@BMWHP2 Ай бұрын
The best question is, WHY? Why is Japan refusing EV's. They have no oil production, they had lots of nucleair power with a lot of electricity . . .Why that are they still betting on H2 ?
@amandagrant4331 Ай бұрын
Because Toyota needs to protect its ICE supply chain (including components such as engines and gearboxes). Hydrogen energy vehicles pose the least threat to ICE. When Toyota found that it could not stop other manufacturers from producing EVs, the only thing it could do was to confuse the audience.
@gregbailey45 Ай бұрын
The Japanese don't like admitting they're wrong. Ever.
@yulusleonard985 Ай бұрын
Because Japan auto industry is under the rule of JAMA, in which Akio Toyoda is the chairman.
@zenden9 Ай бұрын
@@gregbailey45 At least, they are pragmatic enough to abandon their hybrid and use BYD one when they realize theirs are outdated...
@FrunkensteinVonZipperneck Ай бұрын
Practically, Japanese execs are terrified of relying on China for lithium. But they - and EVeryone - have no choice.
@glennrmarks Ай бұрын
This is probably for the Chinese market. I have driven a Toyota Yaris Cross hybrid (here in Australia), I drove 1,000 km and got an average 4.5L per 100 km. at 110 km/h on freeways. The only reason I would look at their hybrids is that I can't afford an EV. There is a window at the moment where Toyota might do well, but this will change once EV's get cheaper. I have had my RAV4 for 25 years, in that time it has blown a tail light globe, water pump seal and timing belt (that's the full list of replaced items, apart from consumables). Have you ever owned a Toyota? This is all based on first-hand experience, nothing to do with advertising. Love your work but you can't be right all the time. You certainly keep me informed on whats happening.
@user-wp5kx7tv1v Ай бұрын
你有机会用更少的钱买到性能更好的产品 不是应该更高兴吗😂
@ilollipop100 Ай бұрын
I had to roadworthy my 1993 Corolla the other day. 3 light bulbs needed replacing.. Cost me less than a $1 for all three. That was it. Sailed through the test.
@gregbailey45 Ай бұрын
Toyota do good, reliable ICE. But they've dropped the ball on EV's and now it's too late. They're screwed.
@glennrmarks Ай бұрын
@@gregbailey45 agreed, I would never buy the BZ4X.
@wcrash9361 Ай бұрын
Hard to believe these figures as hybrids don’t do well on freeway driving as the battery only gives limited range in hybrid mode
@jerryk6343 Ай бұрын
I have owned 2 Toyota.. 1st one back in 1990 and it lasted 350,000 miles with no problems..today a Toyota hybrid 2021 and it averages 6 liters/100 km with lots of hilly driving. Excellent cars.
@mrmawson2438 Ай бұрын
Afternoon mate
@justme6275 Ай бұрын
can't beat em join em
@drtk722 Ай бұрын
What platform? Understood diy platform... would be interesting
@rogerfroud300 Ай бұрын
Toyota's move to BYD's platform is a humiliating climb down. It looks like they can't even make a viable PHEV, let alone that imaginary Solid State Battery they were going to have in 2019. What a joke. Toyota need to get a grip, scrap the Hydrogen ICE and Fuel Cell nonsense, and figure out how to make a proper BEV. It's the only type of car they're going to need in future, and they're doing absolutely nothing at the moment to make that happen. It's driving towards a cliff with its eyes closed.
@yo2trader539 Ай бұрын
Why? They're selling to Chinese market, so Chinese quality will do. Japanese media always reported that Solid State Battery will be produced around 2027.
@ChickensAndGardening Ай бұрын
Toyota makes great hybrids and PHEV's. But they're competing with BYD selling equivalent (or better) vehicles at half the price, so they need to fight fire with fire.
@GS-lf4rk Ай бұрын
If a company got beat in PHEV by BYD, there is no shame on that. We tend to say there r two types of BEVs. Tesla or other. Guess what. There is only one type of PHEV. Just BYD. Others? Where r the others that can it be compared with.
@jasons4045 Ай бұрын
Define Chinese quality, LOL. Don't believe in Toyota seriously, they are good at making empty promises.
@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863 Ай бұрын
Toyota will say China forced them to use BYD systems if toyota want to continue to sell and make their cars in china, that sound legit yeah?
@JohnLee-tb3nh Ай бұрын
Yep, looks like it. I was wondering how Toyota was going to survive when China kicks them out. 30% of sales come from there.
@jasons4045 Ай бұрын
I dare them to say it in front of Chinese consumers. LOL
@pascalbruyere7108 26 күн бұрын
Ok so what does it do, how does it work? Prius style? Volt style? i3 style? Or other? There is no information in this video.
@dollarmerchtree4587 3 күн бұрын
We hope Toyota uses the Blade 2 battery for the next generation of EVs in the US.
@jonevansauthor Ай бұрын
Bosch make their batteries for power tools using Lithium Ion by the way, and I can't think of any industries much more conservative than builders. They switched because it was past time. The guys who have been in our house this week, have a Makita radio that looks like it could survive the apocalypse. You can also get a clip on attachment for the battery that adds US ports, so you can charge your phone. Builders are also using JCBs that are battery operated now. Toyota is stuck in the past and it's really sad. There are still uses for NiMH batteries, but those are waning and mostly relate to really specific niche use cases. I'm getting new electronics now that would previously have been battery operated, but are now USB rechargeable and have built in Li-Ion batteries. Alarm clocks, torches, hair trimmers, handheld vacuums etc.
@miked8121 Ай бұрын
Toyota owns the current regular hybrid market with its 5th generation Prius design introduced last year. The secret sauce is its Electronic CVT with mechanical first gear. The motor is an integral part of the CVT. Only Toyota makes it. (Ford got a license from Toyota for its Maverick Hybrid.) I own one in a Corolla Cross Hybrid and it is awesome and extremely dependable, unlike plugin hybrids. Plugin hybrids are much more expensive. The battery in a Toyota hybrid is only 1.3 KWH while 30 or 40 KWH in a plugin hybrid. In several years, Toyota will offer every model it makes with the current hybrid option.
@user-jh6vt8vx4v Ай бұрын
Toyota just start cleaning up their back log. I wait2 fxxking year for the Sienna. And the hybrid system is even weaker than the previous generation hybrid. That pitiful 4 banger couple with more pitiful motors are so under power, it turns a every day high way overtaking a freaken chore!!! The driving experience is so bad that I dont think I can hold on to it till warenty expire before trade it in for something better.
@rambo4war Ай бұрын
My 2015 GS 450h got 15 mpg in the city! Averaged 31 mpgs on the highway…..severely underperformed is an understatement, now I’m enjoying 120+ mpge in my model S which I dumped the Lexus/toyota for, never getting a gimmicky hybrid from those guys unless it’s a tiny Prius
@WTCHME 24 күн бұрын
no it didn’t. i had a gs450 and never saw economy anywhere near that
@ilollipop100 Ай бұрын
Genius from Toyota. Like the deal with Suzuki. They get another company do to the work and stick their badge on it. That saves on having to develop whole new models. For now all they have to do is carry on making hybrids and they're printing money. Demand for hybrids is through the roof. They only have 5-8 days supply in the USA and you have to wait months for one is Australia.
@lailailai1215154 Ай бұрын
BYD cannot enters US market. BYD and Toyota team up to make money . It is a win-win for both or them.
@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863 Ай бұрын
Toyota will say China forced them to use BYD systems if toyota want to continue to sell and make their cars in china, that sound legit yeah?
@JohnLee-tb3nh Ай бұрын
Meanwhile BYD is getting bigger than Toyota. Eventually BYD will swallow up Toyota.
@yourcrazybear 17 күн бұрын
Toyota is the joke that continues to give. First they are to incompetent to realize that EVs are taking over. Then they are to incompetent to create and produce competent EVs in any respectable volume. And now they are too incompetent to even compete in hybrid technology.
@buixote Ай бұрын
I had no idea that Toyota were still using NiMH. What a joke. I've rebuilt some battery packs for tools replacing NiCd with NiMH... weight isn't so much an issue in this case, but NiMH have not come down in price... ok for tools, but insane for vehicles.
@ChickensAndGardening Ай бұрын
The newer Prius (since 2022, I believe) use lithium ion, not nimh. Keep in mind that NiMH is a "sunk cost" technology - R&D and economies of scale long since achieved. Therefore it's more profitable to use NiMH. However for performance purposes i.e. going 45 miles in BEV mode, they were forced to change to lithium. It's a sacrifice in terms of stability and safety though.
@user-jh6vt8vx4v Ай бұрын
@@ChickensAndGardeningno, the nimh cell are pretty fragile as well. The thermal runway has been a problem since nicad battery. Since they use membrane to seperate cathode and anode. It was not as promenant back than since we have never use battery in such large scale. But, year, when the membrane compromize, the cell is gonna blow regardless if it is Nicad, Nimh or lithitium
@agusedyanto3324 Ай бұрын
It is true that Toyota's hybrid technology was superior in the past, and times have changed, now BYD's hybrid technology is the most superior, Toyota's decision to collaborate with Hybrid BYD is right
@rogerfroud300 Ай бұрын
Absolutely, but it's too complex now, with that trick gearbox.
@JoeyBlogs007 Ай бұрын
Toyota hybrids used to be dual drive, systems ( motor to wheel and engine to wheel ), so less efficient overall. However, newer Toyota hybrids have evolved to include more advanced powertrain designs that optimize efficiency and performance apparently.
@williamfrench9973 9 күн бұрын
It is not accurate to say that Toyota’s PHEVs have “not sold”. They have sold all they can make - and with a 1-2 year waiting list in the case of the RAV4 Prime.
@foolishEmporer Ай бұрын
That is wild that Toyota is going towards BYD tech. Does it point to a company that is worried about catching up after NOT joining the EV revolution?
@rusty358 Ай бұрын
Toyota should improve wiring by going away from soy based insulation. Also could improve connector quality, especially the leaf type contacts which build up corrosion over time.
@qilu2004 Ай бұрын
BYD phev is generations ahead of the rest of the industry. Sam is ignorant about plug in hybrids.
@homerbeer943 Ай бұрын
If Shenxing batteries are as good as they say, why are companies wasting time and money on hybrids??
@user-wp5kx7tv1v Ай бұрын
因为总会有笨蛋 忘记给电动车充电😂😂
@glennrmarks Ай бұрын
because they are still new and cars are designed years in advance of hitting the market. They need to get a return on all that investment.
@zenden9 Ай бұрын
Who build the charging pole? You?
@homerbeer943 Ай бұрын
@@zenden9 who built all the gas stations? Who built all the schools? Who built all the roads and bridges?
@agusedyanto3324 Ай бұрын
HEV is useful for countries and regions where charging is not evenly distributed, such as in developing countries
@tonyarntz821 20 күн бұрын
If it's not Hybrid Synergy Drive, don't touch it. I'd have to be pretty desperate to go back to VCR technology, ie: clutches, belts, fixed gear ratios. That rubbish should have stayed in the 20th century.
@murat8194 Ай бұрын
Rumor is that Toyota is seeking to buy Blackberry trademark as part of their new branding strategy.
@Fomites Ай бұрын
Lol 😂
@undisclosedthai Ай бұрын
No. I think Blackburry sounds like Chery (or cherry) or Geely.
@machoopichoo2 26 күн бұрын
That's Blockbuster news.
@rockycata6078 Ай бұрын
Lead, follow, or get out the way. Toyota is losing their lead in every sector, and now have "no choice" but to follow BYD ...into a losing hybrid platform.
@1rjona Ай бұрын
I think advantage of nickel hydride batteries are they don't light up like lithium ion batteries. Also Toyota has been making them for a long time
@user-os4fd4yl8z Ай бұрын
If you can't beat them, you join them.
@johnbowman476 Ай бұрын
I'm getting really tired at looking at the shit choices for cars we have in the US
@cb250nighthawk3 Ай бұрын
What about your choices for potus? 🎉
@johnbowman476 Ай бұрын
@@cb250nighthawk3 Loi!
@machoopichoo2 26 күн бұрын
And 99% of us can't stand going to a stealership.
@pascalbruyere7108 26 күн бұрын
NiMh works for ever. I have powerful bicycle lights from 20 years ago as well as a bunch of AA and AAA batteries: all work. NiMh work 3-4 years max. That’s what you have on your smartphone: they don’t like to be cycled, NiMh doesn’t care.
@celery9248 Ай бұрын
BYD has been taunted for being tuned like a Toyota... Ironic
@KJSvitko Ай бұрын
Adapt, change or go bankrupt. Toyota is too slow to go all in on electric vehicles. Legacy auto dealers are a nightmare for legacy auto makers. They gouged customers trying to buy electric vehicles. Legacy auto dealers abused their customers by adding market price adjustments to gouge their customers for EVs They added pricey add ons and other costs to pump up the prices and their profits. Tesla has the right idea. Buy online. No hassle. No sitting in a show room for hours. No salesman BS. No crazy markups. No I have to see my manager BS. With Tesla you can buy a vehicle in 5 minutes or less online. The dealers have no one to blame but themselves. The dealers are dragging the legacy auto makers down with them. The problem with legacy auto makers having slow sales leads back to the legacy auto dealers. They try to talk people out of buying and EV and want to put them in a gasoline car.
@JohnLee-tb3nh Ай бұрын
Except Hyundai Group. Hyundai Group is going be #1! Already 3rd, only behind Toyota Group and VW Group.
@ChicagoBob123 Ай бұрын
Not mentioning in the US we have interest rate of .99% for 72 months for the model Y and the RWD long range? Now it's a crazy good deal.
@mikewallace8087 Ай бұрын
I agree , someone is crazy to offer that loan percentage as it disregards the increasing inflation rate.
@ChicagoBob123 Ай бұрын
@@mikewallace8087 but it makes me want to buy one
@mikewallace8087 Ай бұрын
@@ChicagoBob123 maybe you want to cuddle with your own gender but not me.
@nfzeta128 Ай бұрын
Just make sure you don't go anywhere near those 72 months.
@ChicagoBob123 Ай бұрын
@@nfzeta128 don't understand
@haoruchen4216 Ай бұрын
They knew this all along but they just couldn’t do it themselves.
@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863 Ай бұрын
Toyota will say China forced them to use BYD systems if toyota want to continue to sell and make their cars in china, that sound legit yeah?
@nfzeta128 Ай бұрын
More like they refused to. Toyota is a car giant, they just didn't want to bother investing much in EV tech.
@hewittzhong Ай бұрын
Toyota will adopt BYD DMI system, wholesale
@martinwinlow Ай бұрын
Woo-hoo! We're all saved!!! (... NOT!).
@dadsfave Ай бұрын
What's this "if you don't believe me you have been brainwashed" crap??? As a driver of a 20 year old Prius I know first hand how good they are. Who do you think you are? Russell Brand?
@chingtuckmeng1122 Ай бұрын
Keep your ULTRA modern toyo junk
@miked8121 Ай бұрын
@@chingtuckmeng1122 The 5th generation Toyota hybrid introduced last year is even more fuel efficient while being 30% more powerful than the previews model. It's a win win. It will be offered as an option in all Toyota model in a couple years.
@user-jh6vt8vx4v Ай бұрын
@@miked8121I can tell from current gen sienna. The 4 gen hybrid is not better than 2nd gen used on u60 highlander
@lchristophor3107 Ай бұрын
You need to try or have a close friend who drives a BYD hybrid before you could doubt what is said here.
@miked8121 Ай бұрын
@@user-jh6vt8vx4v The 5th Gen started with Prius, then Corolla, then Cross Hybrid, and it is rumored to be in RAV 4 next year. It is being rolled out to other models after that. There are 2 versions. The 2 liter hybrid and then the 2.5 liter hybrid for larger vehicles. I never even considered a Toyota hybrid until this 5th Gen was introduced.
@kl9518 Ай бұрын
Just like American and UK bus companies use BYD platforms and technology for their electric buses.
@ubermenschen3636 Ай бұрын
Toyota will build plug-in hybrid pickup truck and box truck using this BYD power train. Expect to see these vehicles in N America, soon.
@James_Ryan Ай бұрын
Ni-MH is used everywhere in industry, especially in space and the military where dependability and durability are concerned.
@timogronroos4642 14 күн бұрын
Ni-MH is also better in colder climate where Lithium batteries suffers
@anwarsentinel1752 12 күн бұрын
I remember back in the 90s lap tops used to have Ni-Mh batteries however they moved to Lithium ion in the late 90s and early 2000s for some unknown reason.
@handyandymeister Күн бұрын
@@anwarsentinel1752 You get much higher energy density (kwh/kg) with Lithium.
@handyandymeister Күн бұрын
@@anwarsentinel1752 You also get 10x lifespan with Lithium. It's a no-brainer.
@anwarsentinel1752 Күн бұрын
@@handyandymeister tell mr musk I said rip tesla
@PaulS-yl6hk Ай бұрын
the only thing that sticks out in my mind of BYD is ev Fiyah's!
@zenden9 19 күн бұрын
Anybody still unconvinced about BYD DMI 5.0 tech? If not surprising Japan license BYD tech for hybrid.
@AO-ow6tt Күн бұрын
If BYD's technology was not superior, no way would Toyota use BYD DM-i 5.0 system.
@cuteandfunnyearthlings2863 Ай бұрын
Hydrogen is still too new and too early, electric cars they been around in the 70's and 80's, the first one is in 1830, and ev is still improving all the time.
@rogerfroud300 Ай бұрын
If Hydrogen was any good, it would have taken over ICE years ago. However, the fact is it isn't better. It's too complicated, too expensive and too inefficient.
@MrSparklespring Ай бұрын
With all your critics on Toyota, the brand is know for its' excellent reliability, I highly doubt that BYD can make the same quality at the moment. They haven't proven anything in Europe so far, including their sparse dealerships who have still to prove themselves. Selling your car is one thing, building a good dealership for aftersales and maintenance is another thing. For now, Toyota, Lexus and Honda, stand at the top for quality production. Although chinese manufacturers make giant progress, they are still not as good as these japanese cars.
@MagnumiPad Ай бұрын
Why don't they use BYD's, BEV's?
@user-jh6vt8vx4v Ай бұрын
Toyota still not ready to convince the board to go all in Ev. I guess
@jogana6909 Ай бұрын
PHEV still retains the ICE engine and gearbox. The large production capacity owned by Toyata will not become useless.
@larryevans6739 Ай бұрын
They do. Chinese-market BZ3 is basically a BYD Qin Plus EV under the skin. Toyota Sport Crossover EV concept was made by BYD. BYD and Toyota started a JV in 2020, which has essentially resulted in BYD supplying BEV powertrains to be assembled by FAW-Toyota and badged Toyota. “We aim to combine BYD’s strengths in development and competitiveness in the battery electric vehicle market with Toyota’s quality and safety technology to provide the best BEV products for the market demand and consumer affection as early as we can.”
@chrisheath2637 Ай бұрын
We will see more and more of this - Legacy Auto "partnering" with Chinese manufacturers. Dare I say, they will pretend they still produce them. But once they hand over the manufacturing to Chinese companies - they are admitting defeat - they simply can't produce compelling EVs and have given up. Their last gasp at being viable is hybrids - but EVs will soon be so good, reliable and affordable that hybrids will be considered yesterday's tech...
@ibvocean Ай бұрын
Almost 80 miles per gallon just f*ing mind bothering 😅😂
@Slaytheday388 Ай бұрын
Why would they use BYD’s plug-in technology when Toyota has the best plug-in technology in the world right now? I work for Toyota in our plug-in hybrid technology is flawless
@rkox88 Ай бұрын
Looks like Toyota has finally seen the light. They went the wrong direction with hydrogen now they are trying save their relevance in the car market
@JIMMY-nz1ld Ай бұрын
I personally prefers BYDs hybrid over toyota bcos it actually makes sense for saving fuel. You get to drive like an EV all the time. Even if you put your foot down full throttle.
@Ask-a-Rocket-Scientist Ай бұрын
What I can’t figure is why hybrid car makers aren’t upgrading the batteries to 7.5KW so they can qualify for the $7500 credit.
@agusedyanto3324 Ай бұрын
Maybe this will make the car's weight too high, which is not in accordance with regulations
@Thulebeez Ай бұрын
Very good move Toyota they must go all the way in even BYD BEV technology. For next generation of BEV Toyota must outsourced the mechinical part to BYD and only do body design work with Toyota badge.
@Leafbinder Ай бұрын
Well the FACT is Hybrid Cars have about twice as many Parts that can break and its a waste of Batteries when most people wont use the electric part of the car on average.
@sergeikuznetsov5800 13 күн бұрын
NiMH do not burst in flames frying passengers above
@frankcoffey Ай бұрын
All BYD and Tesla have to do is reinforce what Toyota and others have been saying until it's too late for them. Yes, invest all your R&D budget into Hydrogen and hybrids....that's a good idea.
@xinfuxia3809 Ай бұрын
Scott Kilmer will wave his arms furiously for this news
@frequentlycynical642 Ай бұрын
Ha ha ha times a thousand. That man is so maniacal whack a doodle.
@captiantim1 Ай бұрын
I can't get a byd or a reasonable priced Toyota 😮
@Ahda108 Ай бұрын
BYD can just use the Toyota Bage to sell their cars here in the U.S... i think t will be better than the noodle Prius
@larryevans6739 Ай бұрын
Or just package up their powertrains to be assembled by Toyota in North America.
@C0wCakes Ай бұрын
Plugin Hybrid engine efficiency is highly dependent on people actually plugging in recharging most of the time. Recent Studies you and other media have mentioned most people don't do that and use petrol most of the time, and in doing so are less efficient than an efficient ICE vehicle. But it makes them feel good. Still it's funny that Toyota will effectively be a BYD subsiduary company.
@jogana6909 Ай бұрын
If doesn't want to charge, no one will buy PHEV and give up ICE. But the market is honest. In April 2024, BYD sold 134,465 pure EVs and 177,583 PHEVs.
@larryevans6739 Ай бұрын
If the economics have running on electricity as being less expensive (which it is most places), people will plug in their vehicles. The studies that claim many people do not plug in their vehicles were based on company cars (a frequent perk in the UK) where they were reimbursed for fuel. If you do not pay for fuel, the incentive to change behavior is not there. In China, fuel is expensive and charging is relatively convenient. In addition their PHEV's are designed to run as EV's first (rather than a hybrid with a plug added as an afterthought), with electric ranges far beyond what the Volt offered. As such, most people in China plug in.
@ainschuntayleuhn1147 Ай бұрын
Sam: Look how efficient Trains are. A Fuel Powered Engine Drives a Generator which Powers Electric Motors. Why not Cars? The Gas Engine would be Very Small and consume only a Small amount of Fuel. Many benefits including low cost and in turn affordable to the masses.
@jaaklucas1329 Ай бұрын
Had it for years, Chevy Volt and others. Called REV tech. I believe. More coming and Edison motors makes class 8 semis like this.
@mrmawson2438 Ай бұрын
Cheers mate I'm 45
@gregbailey45 Ай бұрын
Apropos of what? Oh, ok, got it.
@machoopichoo2 26 күн бұрын
Good luck even getting a PHEV (AKA fake EVs) - it takes like a year from order. Toyoda can't even make hybrids properly now. Cue the bankruptcy music.
@StewartMidwinter Ай бұрын
I believe that Toyota is still using nickel metal hydride batteries for one simple reason - they can be charged thousands and thousands of times, and they are cheap. When the battery is so small that it's completely used up within a couple of minutes, it's important to be able to recharge it many times.
@kenoliver8913 Ай бұрын
Nickel is CHEAP? You are joking. And up-to-date LFP batteries can also be charged thousands of times and are a lot smaller, lighter - and cheaper.
@Muricans1776 Ай бұрын
The Big Guy won’t like this…another 10% in the envelope might let this slip past the new U S A EV tariffs.
@justice4g Ай бұрын
toyota sticks to the old battery tech because it's cheap and the battery's are small enough that the weight doesn't really matter
@yulusleonard985 Ай бұрын
BYD and CATL battery are cheaper. this year they reach $55 per kwh.
@williamsloggy5144 Ай бұрын
And Subaru?
@michaelfung4629 Ай бұрын
Great for the EV sector.
@pd2152 29 күн бұрын
Toyota is the most reliable car or truck you can buy- until they rolled out these new turbos
@wangyiran66 14 күн бұрын
It is kind of pointless to buy these new models in China. But, well...
@yoyohighness Ай бұрын
If Toyota is using BYD's hybrid engine instead of its own, what does that tell the world about Toyota's Hybrid tech ？
@ekhoury1000 Ай бұрын
Toyota hybrids are the EV nerds cryptonite.. ultra efficient without needing charging. Here hes talking about PHEV which is useless tech that Toyota don't even make ( I think )
@vinterskugge907 Ай бұрын
They do - the RAV4 has a plug-in hybrid variant.
@jacobfoster3021 Ай бұрын
@vinterskugge907 rav4, prius, and in some markets chr and crown have phev versions.
@zippyspeedmonkey Ай бұрын
Remember the days when Japan was the go to for cutting edge creativity and tech ? Sad to see that those days are long gone.
@charleshill7184 Ай бұрын
Remember this? May 1990 -- kzfaq.info/get/bejne/mZeBls2kz9DYgpc.html Doc Brown: No wonder this circuit failed, it says "Made in Japan"! Marty: What do you mean, Doc? All the best stuff is made in Japan. Add 30 years and we're with a new generation, just replacing "Japan" with "China". History repeats.
@zippyspeedmonkey Ай бұрын
@@charleshill7184 My rebuttal. Sadly it will give you an idea of how old I am... kzfaq.info/get/bejne/bdKZo8aczc2rZZs.html
@tonystorcke Ай бұрын
BYD is Toyota's platform of the future. Today's electric cars odd he future will be what BYD is releasing today. When BYD technology becomes old and obsolete, they become Tototas.
@frequentlycynical642 Ай бұрын
And yet 99% of Americans have never heard of BYD. And probably 90% of general auto enthusiasts, either. I think, as Toyota bet on,. EV's will never take over the green marketplace entirely. Plug in hybrids are the practical and logical choice for most consumers for many years to come.
@jaaklucas1329 Ай бұрын
BYD pretty much blocked out of America because its Chinese. BYD do make Ebuses in N. America.
@neildolan7177 Ай бұрын
Keep your friends close & enemies closer.
@miraphycs7377 Ай бұрын
u are spreading cherry-picked misinformation. That published NEDC fuel economy figure is when you're also running on battery power in China's city-oriented CLTC cycle. It is about as accurate as EPA MPGe BS figure. BYD PHEVs not only have bigger battery than Toyota's normal hybrids, in some cases even bigger than some of Toyota's own PHEV. So Corolla Levin may have 1-2kwh but the BYD Qin at the minimum have 9kwh and as much as 18 kwh in some variant (same as RAV4 Prime). This means BYD's battery and car as a whole is heavier than Toyota as well. Therefore, in higher speed highway and especially when battery ran out, BYD would be carrying around extra minimum 4.5x the size/ capacity battery, thus its fuel economy declines significantly. In Toyota PHEV its fuel economy will go down but not as much as BYD, even the latest DMI 5.0 will have this issue
@user-jh6vt8vx4v Ай бұрын
Look it up again. The real world application. The dm-i from BYD is on par of fuel consumption on regular hybrid. That is why the ride share drivers are using the dm-i alot in China. It save fuel when battery has juice. And not consume much when there is none
@markrowland1366 Ай бұрын
This year the head of Toyota asserted that he frequently lied, as thid is how business is conducted.
@snodgee Ай бұрын
Your statement isn’t exactly true they are not buying BYD , they have signed a agreement to design and build new equipment
@Slaytheday388 Ай бұрын
Maybe they are only going to use their hybrid technology in China for some reason
@carlcadogan4510 Ай бұрын
Yes by now Toyota should have moved on from Nimh batteries
@donbakerseattle Ай бұрын
I think Toyota has multiple personality disorder.
@parthppopat Ай бұрын
The worlds first hydrogen powered construction JCB is already in action in Nagpur Maharashtra, with its own on-site pump installed.
@kallekas8551 Ай бұрын
They won’t…😂
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