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TR Retrospective: Tomb Raider (2013) - SteveOfWarr

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Steve Of Warr

Steve Of Warr

Жыл бұрын

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@SteveOfWarr
@SteveOfWarr Жыл бұрын
A few people have left similar comments regadring my choice to tackle a certain scene the way I did for this video. So I thought I'd tweak a reply I made to one of those comments to give further clarity. Firstly, the thing I mostly wasn't comfortable about was delving into the whole controversy surrounding the scene where it looks like Lara was about to be come a vicitm of sexual assault, and risking this video becoming yet another hit piece aimed at the team who made this game. I try to keep things as light as possible when whilst being informative about the behind the scenes goings on, but the more I looked at what I had originally wrote for discussing this moment, the more my personal bias towards the scene became apparent, and that section ended up reading like I was making things too personal, or like I was targeting certain people by naming and shaming, which is not what I'm about as a creator. The bottom line I guess is that this scene has been covered, discussed, decried and; imo rightly criticised by a lot of people, some far more qualified than me, to a point where this scene is the one thing most people clearly remember about this game, and I didn't want this video to be about that again. I wanted to put aside all the controversy for a moment and just let the rest of the game take priority, and whilst I have my opinions on them using an outdated trope for this "new and improved" origin story of such an important female pop-culture icon, I felt it important to try and change the conversation a little about 2013. Hopefully this all made some sense about my position on the whole thing, and I hope you enjoyed the video🙂
@kieranwillis395
@kieranwillis395 5 ай бұрын
Great post! In all honesty I thought it looked like sexual assault, and at the end of the day, thats the reality of war. Or rather how a group of savage men on a remote island might act.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 4 ай бұрын
​@@kieranwillis395 when the guy is speaking russian and telling Lara how he did a thing with his sister? That's what they did in Bucha, Izium, Mariupol. Nothing surprising. Only way to resist is to fight back.
@tacticaljunk1608
@tacticaljunk1608 Жыл бұрын
One moment from the game that really stuck with me all these years later is the diary entry you can find of one of Himiko's handmaidens being favored by Himiko and getting special treatment. She mentions Himiko holding her face and gazing at her with admiration. But the handmaiden finds it unnerving, "as if she's looking at herself in a mirror." Which was great foreshadowing of what happens eventually.
@Azuris190
@Azuris190 9 ай бұрын
I agree, those little Things added more to the Game than the actual Protagonists imo :)
@cloudair4154
@cloudair4154 9 ай бұрын
some of the writing was great in the game.. i liked how the black woman was rude to lara because she blamed her for her husband's death.. that felt very realistic to me
@patrickholt8782
@patrickholt8782 Жыл бұрын
2013 Lara: oh my God I’ve killed a man!! 1996: eat lead Pierre!
@paulwoodford1984
@paulwoodford1984 5 ай бұрын
Until she instantly is comfortable in killing everyone. Terrible writing
@skycloud4802
@skycloud4802 2 ай бұрын
2013: poor deer, I can't 1996: eat lead wolves, bears, T-rex, everything. I'll extinct every last one you.
@omegacloud99
@omegacloud99 Жыл бұрын
I still cant believe she NEVER uses dual pistols again for the whole damn reboot series
@coolman229
@coolman229 3 ай бұрын
That's explained in the Croft Manor DLC. She's still grieving Roth and using the dual pistols reminds her of him. It's not until Shadow that she comes to terms with her trauma. Still disappointing that it's not like an unlockable in at least Shadow after beating the game.
@justinward9590
@justinward9590 Жыл бұрын
Such a great video! Love what you do Steve! Fun fact: If you stay and listen to one of the crazy prisoners in the Thermal caves you find out he is the Dad of the two girls toys you find. He says their names if you stand by his cell.
@SteveOfWarr
@SteveOfWarr Жыл бұрын
No way! I'll have to go back and check that out now 👍
@JoaoVictor-rg5ix
@JoaoVictor-rg5ix Жыл бұрын
Never even imagined that.
@Lukeywoodsey
@Lukeywoodsey Жыл бұрын
​@@SteveOfWarrthat place is so so creepy. Especially as you only have a bow. The crazy guy that chances you 😳😳
@CarloruggeroAnastasio
@CarloruggeroAnastasio Жыл бұрын
omg WHAT??? Thanks for the tip!! I HAVE to play that again now
@M-E_123
@M-E_123 Жыл бұрын
The thing is, these games borrowed heavily from the Uncharted games but failed to bring over their strongest features - a good script & and a likeable cast of characters. Without those elements, and having largely abandoned the Tomb Raider series own strongest feature ever since Crystal Dynamics took over the series (exploration) - there wasn't much left to pull the player through to the end of the game. You either play through the games because you enjoy the action / puzzle gameplay and want more of it. Or you don't. For someone who always enjoyed the exploration & isolation of the original Core Design Tomb Raider games (and found their supernatural elements and the idea's behind their artifacts & enemies somehow compelling) & equally enjoyed the Uncharted games for their cast, banter between characters, sense of adventure, and roller coaster pacing - these latest Tomb Raider games were an unsatisfying compromise between the two (this first one was the best for me, I think because it had the best narrative, supernatural enemies & a good sense of mystery as the story of the island is slowly revealed). I think I'd prefer either a complete rollback to bring back abandoned Tomb Raider gameplay & design elements, or a different developer to work on something completely new with the basic idea's of the franchise - I've lost faith that Crystal Dynamics are likely to deliver a Tomb Raider I'm interested in given the directions they seem interested in developing.
@iannolisgeorgianimis4925
@iannolisgeorgianimis4925 Жыл бұрын
Very well said. My sentiments exactly.
@quentinhirschfeld9382
@quentinhirschfeld9382 9 ай бұрын
Except the Uncharted games (except 2nd one) are as boring as it gets, extremely linear (all 4 games are a giant corridors with almost no optional paths), over simplistic gameplay (which has not evolved by an inch, to the point it felt out-dated in Uncharted 4, especially the climbing, not challenging at all), unbalanced difficulty (in the lower modes, the game could be beaten by a 4 years old, in the harder modes, you can't move without instantly dying, which kills the pace).
@vgjunkie8386
@vgjunkie8386 22 күн бұрын
@@quentinhirschfeld9382 ah yes, a totally unbiased opinion.
@eddiehimself
@eddiehimself Жыл бұрын
The world building and lore is pretty interesting in this game if you look into it. In the 1950s, there were claims of a mysterious island off the south coast of Japan where "military ships" supposedly went missing. In reality, these claims were much exaggerated and they were actually mostly fishing boats. A research vessel sent to study the cause of the sinkings in 1954 ended up sinking itself and it turns out that the cause was an underwater volcano erupting and trapping pockets of air under the surface, which lowered the buoyancy of the water so it could no longer support the boats. Then you had the fact that the location of the remains of Himiko, ruler of Yamataikoku, weren't known at the time in 2013. However, her grave was actually discovered not long after on Japan's main island of Honshu. And the boat in the game is named the _Endurance_ after the ship in which explorer Ernest Shackleton and his crew famously survived being shipwrecked in Antarctica in the early 20th century.
@ThePegasister
@ThePegasister Жыл бұрын
Roth's monologue just before Lara goes to save the pilot is really heart wrenching and favourite part of this video.
@jamesflynn4951
@jamesflynn4951 Жыл бұрын
I did it for Yorkshire
@clintmcbride7830
@clintmcbride7830 7 ай бұрын
That whole "you know sacrifice and not loss" bit was amazing writing. While I live the campy and sometimes schlocky writing of the core design era of the franchise, parts like that are why the survivor trilogy is what I most often go back to.
@paulwoodford1984
@paulwoodford1984 5 ай бұрын
It was cringe
@balazs7235
@balazs7235 Жыл бұрын
For Steve to have only around 16k subs yet create videos like this. Feels too good to be true. We appreciate your work!!
@clintmcbride7830
@clintmcbride7830 7 ай бұрын
The fact that he only has 16k subs amazes me. They are easily on par, in quality, with some of the biggest video games essayists on the platform.
@piotr78
@piotr78 6 ай бұрын
This video has 75k viewers and only 3k of them went to like the vid. People really just seem to forget to do so unless you ask them to
@silverfr3ak
@silverfr3ak Жыл бұрын
The humor, the editing, the references, the script. Everything's just great! The game itself is pretty fun, it was a good reboot try, I really enjoyed. Climbing the radio tower was the most memorable moment. But I gotta say I miss old Lara.
@Equus21
@Equus21 Жыл бұрын
Same. I'd love the similar stories and the updated graphics with two pistols and a sassy attitude :)
@Jeymez
@Jeymez 10 ай бұрын
​@Equus21 they'd have to find right actor, Camilla did a good job for the most part, but she doesn't have the kind of voice to pull off that side of Lara. it works for this Lara, but if they wanna return to familiar territory but with modern graphics, there not need someone new. some people might miss Camilla's voice, but there's been alot of people who voiced her over the years. the original VA did the first two games, maybe Tomb Raider 3 but I'd have to play that one again to refresh my memory. i know she was different in Last Revelation, and Angel of Darkness. Legends Lara had someone new, but one thing they all had in common, they had the kind of vocals perfectly suited for sassy talk.
@MiBrCo4177
@MiBrCo4177 10 ай бұрын
Having beat this just the other day, the radio tower was one scene that made me say out loud holy crap with a genuine smile on my face. The music rushing up as you climb the tower to actually finding a radio frequency and hearing back from the pilot, really made me start to enjoy the game. I kept comparing it to uncharted which is understandable considering uncharted came before this one which is ironic with how uncharted was made in the same mold as the first few TR games, so essentially it's come full circle. Overall a great experience and I'm really looking forward to starting rise and shadow soon.
@sherrie553
@sherrie553 6 ай бұрын
​@@Jeymezshelly blond only did Tr1, TR2 and 3 was by Judith
@Jeymez
@Jeymez 6 ай бұрын
@sherrie553 ok so 2 & 3 were voiced by someone else. well i knew somebody did the voice, but when i played the games back then i didn't pay much attention. but i was a kid then, one thing they all had in common, the voice was similar. where i noticed the voice difference, was in Last Revelation. And of course Angel of Darkness, but i forget who did that one.
@markgaumee
@markgaumee Жыл бұрын
My heart skipped a beat when I saw this, I’ve been looking forward to this retrospective for a long time! Can’t wait! Edit: I new this was going to be a great retrospective but the editing and jokes made this 10 times better, great work as always Steve!
@davidelsbury6197
@davidelsbury6197 Жыл бұрын
Never related more to a youtube comment in my life.😁
@MichaelaLeMongoola
@MichaelaLeMongoola Жыл бұрын
As a proud Yorkshire denizen, I can confirm that Lara should have had a strong cup of Yorkshire Tea. They’d all have been off Yamatai 50% faster. Seriously though, absolutely fab work as per usual! Thank you, Steve!
@ClearWing
@ClearWing 4 ай бұрын
The only problem with Camilla is,most of the time it sounds like she moans,it sounds weird when you listen to her from another room
@SteveOfWarr
@SteveOfWarr 4 ай бұрын
Agreed 😂
@darksouls2isthebestgameeve470
@darksouls2isthebestgameeve470 Жыл бұрын
I never knew shantytown was so hated. Its verticality alone endeared me to the area. I liked the visuals of the giant pile of rickety houses stacked on one and another. Plus I found the combat encounters and setpieces pretty good. I agree about the brown era of gaming though. Grit and realism can be achieved without sacrificing visual appeal.
@lionocyborg6030
@lionocyborg6030 7 ай бұрын
1:02:35 actually that’s a homage to The Descent where the exact same kind of scene happens when one of the girls falls into a deep pool of spilled blood in the crawlers’ pantry. The frantic climb out of a root cave under a tree at the beginning of the game also references the movie’s ending and the climbing axe as your melee weapon is also from the film.
@Excel86j
@Excel86j Жыл бұрын
As someone who regularly still says "my eyes!, the goggles do nothing!" in every day life (much to the empty looks of unknowing from my friends a lot of the time) I fully respect you using it in this video lol
@bollywongaloid
@bollywongaloid 11 ай бұрын
Lara is basically the British museum with a gun 😂 cracked me up
@Sigma-xb6kn
@Sigma-xb6kn Жыл бұрын
Out of the Survivor Trilogy, this has the best sense of progression. Each new gameplay element is introduced at the right time, doesn't feel tacked on and has a certain gravitas upon aquiring (see grenade launcher), the later games are much worse in that regard. It is my second favorite of them, it has the most coherent experience but lacks the excellent puzzles and exploration of Shadow.
@zZiL341yRj736
@zZiL341yRj736 Жыл бұрын
Shadow was a big POS.
@leandrabarros3582
@leandrabarros3582 Жыл бұрын
This game was the most recent AAA game, and TR, I have acess to for 10 years. I still cant believe it has been that long, and how many dozen times I have seen the credits. My PS3 even has a skin with one of the concept art! PS4 and PS5 are still really expensive in county, and a powerfull PC is also out of question. Thank you sm for remembering once again why I loved this game so much
@khajiit8221
@khajiit8221 Жыл бұрын
I liked Tomb Raider 2013. Can't believe its been 10 years. I bet in another 10 years it will still feel like the "new" Tomb Raider. The classic games on the other hand (TR 1, 2, 3, 4, and 5) will always just feel 'classic'. That all may just be my nostalgia however.
@Se7en2107
@Se7en2107 Жыл бұрын
When I first encountered Tomb Raider, I was a 5-year-old girl. My first Lara was the Core version but being a little girl, the whole "tits and guns" aspect wasn't even something I thought about. I didn't even see the sexualised advertisements until much later. It was just a game my dad brought home one day with interesting environments and puzzles. It was also the first time I saw a woman be an action star which made Lara a positive rolemodel because for me she was capable and confident and I didn't have a sister to look up to in that way. The only aspect of her physical appearance I cared about was the ponytail and it's the way I wear my hair to this day.
@leonotkennedy8026
@leonotkennedy8026 4 ай бұрын
I was so obsessed with game hair physics for some reason and 7 year old me first saw Lara and thought "oo ponytail" and that started my obsession with Lara to this day
@dopey473
@dopey473 Жыл бұрын
I honestly can't say anything that Steve hasn't already said in this incredibly detailed video, wow was this worth the wait! The speech at the end about the series' legacy especially hit hard, it inspires me to make my own videos on this series I played since childhood some day. Thank you!
@ignacymoscickifilms670
@ignacymoscickifilms670 Жыл бұрын
It scares me that when i was in middle school, Tomb Raider 2 was as old as this is now
@DragosDreamer1989
@DragosDreamer1989 Жыл бұрын
Damn, mate. Now we know why it took so long, this is a huge review video. And on point, too. I really appreciate how you take the time to do justice to these games, like explaining that the old games weren't just, quote, "tits and guns". I personally remember playing them with glee and curiosity of what environments I would see in the next level, what vehicles I would drive, what mind-blowing jumps and platforming would I have to do. In fact, these series of games had an impact on my life, throughout the years. I played most of them as a kid / young teenager and replayed them over the years and they convinced me to get into exciting hobbies like mountain hiking and motorcycle riding. I vividly remember how much I loved the Venice levels in TR2 (my first ever interaction with the series) and I recently visited Venice, now being in my 30s and loved that place. We are fortunate to have played and enjoyed these games for what they truely are. Thanks for relaying that to others that might do the same! Keep up the good job, m8.
@gingerbreadgirlprod
@gingerbreadgirlprod 5 ай бұрын
The Yorkshire Tea bits are sending me
@heldstop5442
@heldstop5442 28 күн бұрын
The new TR games are excellent on their own but I personally think the main character should have been someone else, not Lara. We love Lara for who she is - strong, skilled, cheeky, elegant and fearless. In these games she feels more like a victim of the circumstances, bunny lost in the woods full of wolfs. She feels weak and unskilled. All of her actions look more accidental than deliberate calculation. Her survival is mostly luck rather than skill. If that is the realness they were going for then it sounds pretty bad as they make it sound as if a strong, skilled, cheeky, elegant and fearless woman is less realistic than a whiny and unskilled little girl. No acrobatics? Just a big portion of what we loved her for was just totally taken away from her. What comes to the changes they made to the gameplay of the series - I am not sure why modern games hop onto the trend of realism in their gameplay. Realism is not an indicator of a good game, actually it is the opposite way too often imho, it just adds unnecessary complications to the games that make them quite often nightmarish to play. A good example of this is constant catastrophe Lara goes through the entire game. Everything is falling apart, all of the buildings are unstable, every ledge she grabs on crambles, she constantly struggles and it's not pleasant to watch a person suffer the entire game. She doesn't like to be there. I just finished playing the last one and I walked out of this experience as if I personally just survived a catastrophe of some sort. It's not inspiring like the previous ones which leads me to the next point. Tomb Raider used to be an exploration game but became a survival-shooter which is a huge switch. I think it's very important for a game to stay in the niche that it fills which usually seems to producers to be too specific so they try to go for more mainstream approach leaving us with pop games that are no different from a million others. You could put Drake there instead and nothing would change about it. The niche that Lara used to fill is empty now and nothing can fill it. It used to be a calming game that evoked the sense of wonder and mystery where you could explore locations at your own pace in peaceful solitude which added depth and uniqueness to them but now it's just a very stressful, fast paced, very crowded and sometimes pretty awful experience of being in very ugly places filled with corpses or just looking like trash (ruins in siberia or most of the locations on that island from 2013 one). I don't know why someone would think it's going to be enjoyable to be in such places, they just look and feel depressing as if we don't have all of that in our everyday life. Lastly rewriting Lara's history this many times is not a good idea either and expanding on unknown parts of her life would make a more seamless transition not only from the previous games but also for the potentially future ones. This rewriting has the side effects of disregarding and erasing the previous games completely (which is literally spitting to the face of the fanbase) but also creating this feeling that we don't know who Lara is anymore. Is there going to be a new Lara again in the future? Will Richard Croft have another version of his death as well as Amelia Croft? I doubt that as this version of Lara is dull and resurrecting the previous one is desperate which just means that these last 3 games were simply the last nail in Lara's coffin. Pretty disappointing. Don't get me wrong, the games are very good, the fact that it's Lara Croft makes them bad. P.S: I think Anniversary is the perfect example of the perfect Lara Croft game. Perfect balance of control, environment, locations, music, combat, puzzles and story behind. Pure exploration in blissful solitude. No chaos.
@elvishladdy3404
@elvishladdy3404 Жыл бұрын
A fantastic retrospective, Steve. I have a vivid memory of enjoying this game when it initially released, but over time I began to feel like it was not a Tomb Raider game overall and I found myself uninterested with the subsequent titles as a result. I can respect a great deal of how they attempted to "reinvent" the series, but I do feel like a certain layer of identity was lost in the transition. Especially since Lara's character moving forward literally becomes so focused towards her father, (way more than the Underworld trilogy) that she becomes a figure where I could not tell you who she necessarily is as a person. But I'm getting ahead of myself. Outstanding video and well worth the wait. The passion you put into this is fully on display and I am proud to see such quality content every time. Much love
@SuggestiveGaming
@SuggestiveGaming Жыл бұрын
Great video as always, Steve! In particular I liked the part where you expressed how much the ending meant to you, very touching stuff. But we all know the best part was when I showed up.
@SteveOfWarr
@SteveOfWarr Жыл бұрын
Always humble 🙏😎
@owenprice470
@owenprice470 Жыл бұрын
Thank you, mate, for all your hard work. It's truly inspiring, and I mean it. 😊
@razvardan
@razvardan Жыл бұрын
Another banger, but I mean who would ever doubt that!!!! Still cannot believe my favorite game franchise that has been a part of my life since childhood, gets to be featured in these quality retrospective videos, it almost feels weird having such perfectly tailored quality videos to enjoy. Truly brilliant work Steve! ❤
@Bjontiss
@Bjontiss 6 ай бұрын
The best thing about this game, by far is the shooting mechanics. They really nailed it on this one.
@shizw1919
@shizw1919 Жыл бұрын
The constant falling and sliding ended up really grtting on my nerves lol. It borders on slapstick
@Mr.Pallanza
@Mr.Pallanza Жыл бұрын
My man, I would like to thank you and say amazing work with your Tomb Raider coverage, this time beginning with the modern rework of Tomb Raider 2013. The commentary, the concise points and opinions, the meme edits, and the quality is exceptional! I found you on a nostalgia hunger looking for PSX-era Tomb Raider playthroughs, and stuck by your content ever since. And seeing you get this far is definitely a sight to see! I wish you nothing but success in your efforts, my man! Looking forward to the next installments.
@RazorbackRR
@RazorbackRR 9 ай бұрын
Recently discovered your channel and really enjoying your tomb raider revisits! Watched them all in a weekend filled with nostalgia. Never played the recent Tomb Raiders so was nice to have a little peek through your videos. Keep up the great stuff, and also, nice use of Psycho Mantis' theme there at the end ;)
@TheDunbartxeen
@TheDunbartxeen Жыл бұрын
Very good analysis. I liked the comparison to the critically underrated TR: Anniversary. I played SotTR which really dragged along for me. halfway through i started Anniversary which i had neglected back in the day and found myself completing it long before SotTR. Anniversary was a brilliant Remake of the first game.
@lukismilenar
@lukismilenar Жыл бұрын
Also Toby Gard did an external work as an advisor/director for the cutscenes etc. And I think it shows. Its also the last Tomb Raider he worked on. Really loved the ending of this game and its a shame CD went a completely different direction.
@lmonk9517
@lmonk9517 Жыл бұрын
shame that this game did such a good job of setting up a origin to the OG tombraider, especially the ending with the duel pistol reveal but unfortunately they went in a different direction and focused more on what made reboot lara different from her predecessors rather on what made her similar.
@tonimotusic5621
@tonimotusic5621 Жыл бұрын
I'm very excited!!! I've seen all your TR Retrospective videos multiple times, even sometimes just in the background, like a relaxing ASMR video. Can't wait to watch this during dinner today
@slantedglasses7242
@slantedglasses7242 Жыл бұрын
Me too!!
@ClockworkGearhead
@ClockworkGearhead Жыл бұрын
I liked at the, "Let's have a proper brew," joke. Very nice. Good timing. 10/10
@elliemackenzie9021
@elliemackenzie9021 Жыл бұрын
You do such an amazing job with these retrospective videos. I’ve rewatched all of them so many times! Thank you for all the time and passion that you put into these projects they’re all fantastic 👏🏻
@ChaoticVoicesofAndreas
@ChaoticVoicesofAndreas Жыл бұрын
I laughed so much, my word. More than most comedy films. The Yorkshire tea bits, literal tears! Beautiful delivery of those wonderfully written jokes. Though, I can't help myself feeling a bit sad. I know there are only two videos like these left. I look forward to them, EAGERLY.
@kittaylor5752
@kittaylor5752 Жыл бұрын
Having Roth obsessed with Yorkshire Tea will forever change my perception of him and his role in this story. Thanks Steve.
@josephsmith1494
@josephsmith1494 Ай бұрын
Just caught up on all the Retrospective videos for the tomb raider games you have done over the years. I find your style of review quite an interesting take as you take your time to explain your views and why you have arrived at them as opposed to trying to squeeze everything into a 10-20 min vid, cant wait for you to do one for the last 2 current Tomb Raiders :D
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 21 күн бұрын
Me too !!!❤
@JotaMess
@JotaMess Жыл бұрын
Can't say how awesome this retrospective has been to watch, Steve. Thank you for the hard work. As many others have said, you really do justice to this series. Take a well earned rest 😁. Keep it up! Sincerely, a random TR fan from Chile.
@loli-knightxardej2252
@loli-knightxardej2252 Жыл бұрын
My biggest issues with the newer games is... where's the interesting enemies? There's no crazy hidden dinosaurs, mummies, mutants, or obviously supernatural monsters. All of the "monsters" we fight in the new games are basically just bulky humanoids with nothing interesting going on. The games are fun and all, but they just don't feel like Tomb Raider games. Even AOD feels like more of a TR game than the new ones do.
@JoeMudd
@JoeMudd Жыл бұрын
Interesting explanation for her accent. With this game it was definitely jarring for me: "Mayday mayday, this is Lara Craft, Rath and I need to get aff the island" but she sorts it out for the sequels. Great video! Fair, unbiased, and hilarious as always 🤩
@moddingaom5622
@moddingaom5622 Жыл бұрын
I love the dramatic pause before you said "stronger now". :D
@spiraltawa6320
@spiraltawa6320 Жыл бұрын
You did an incredible job covering this game as fair as possible, just like with AOD, and the waiting for this video has really paid off. The editing style and jokes are still as good as ever; it's main reason why I love rewatching your retrospectives. They are just so entertaining! I especially liked the Yorkshire Tea bit xD
@oddball87
@oddball87 Жыл бұрын
This was well worth the wait. This series of retrospectives is what brought me to your channel, and what convinced me to subscribe. TR 2013 gets a much worse rap than it deserves, imo. The narrative, gameplay, and atmosphere is gripping, even if it does stumble in places, and Shanty Town aside, Yamatai is a fascinating place to explore. And I agree that something feels off with the facial expressions for Lara in the Definitive Edition. In the side by side comparison clips, DE Lara's face looks... vacant, as if she hasn't got a single thought running through her head.
@SkyrimExplorer
@SkyrimExplorer Жыл бұрын
❤ After a decade I started playing TR2013. It took me 'some time' to convince myself to touch this part after being hardcore fan of 1-5 parts. Thank you for this retrospective as you had your part in all this.
@the_kindman
@the_kindman Жыл бұрын
Steve, that was a brilliant piece of work you put out there. Thank you so much. I am a bit intimidated by the divide in the tomb raider community (and seldomly take part in it because of that) as someone who grew up obsessing over classic TR and got back into gaming years later with TR 2013 and the reboot series to the point where I am kind of a game developer myself these days - it's kinda hard to find places where all TR generations are celebrated and also fairly analyzed, discussed and criticized, so I am very thankful to you to provide such a place. The one thing I love about the reboot series above all others (and there is a lot I really love about them) and I pray that it will somehow survive into the unified timeline is Lara's portrayal as an archeology nerd. The collectibles are great for environmental story telling and little side stories as you mentioned, but they also perfectly demonstrate Lara's profound knowledge of ancient cultures and her passion and excitement for the subject. I love that she cares for these things so much, that she forgets all the chaos and world-ending-affairs for a brief moment just to marvel about her latest discovery. That's what's making her relatable for me and something I don't see very often in AAA video game characters.
@Timbermannetje
@Timbermannetje Жыл бұрын
My ideal Tomb Raider game would be: -Lara's Home with engineer and of course the Butler (and empty museum) -World map with 20 locations or so to travel to, with guides and mules to put items on -explore each location freely, explore tombs, find trinkets, obstacles where you can't go past -You can put some trinkets in your backpack, but not too many -Empty your backpack at the hub point -go back to Lara's Home and fill it up with artifacts, buy/develop new gear/vehicles/outfits at the engineer shop -Not too many human combat, but there can be rival explorers or some natives -Some trinkets are dangerous, if you pull them out you have to face the consequences -Gameplay is classic TR, but modernized somehow, graphics can be a bit like Zelda Botw.. -It could feel more like a Nintendo game, fun & light hearted. Not generic and super realistic like Uncharted. -Lara is a cool Comic Book hero, bigger than life!
@nova3530onyt
@nova3530onyt 9 күн бұрын
I looooove this!
@Timbermannetje
@Timbermannetje 8 күн бұрын
@@nova3530onyt I will send it to Crystal Dynamics then! :D
@louiskerr78
@louiskerr78 Жыл бұрын
Thanks Steve, your videos are able to convey all of our thoughts as tomb raider fans. I cannot wait to see the latest episode. Great, great work!
@TheChunkyBadger
@TheChunkyBadger Жыл бұрын
Holy shit. Finally, I've been waiting for this for soooo long. Luckily I'm not working over the weekend so I can watch this in one sitting.
@captainufo4587
@captainufo4587 2 ай бұрын
About 47:00 - Planes are hit by lightning very frequently, and they don't catch fire, nor crashland. There MAY be some interference with on board instruments, but generally nothing permanent nor fatal.
@kalenics123
@kalenics123 Жыл бұрын
That Time Crisis part was chef's kiss
@kennydavis9085
@kennydavis9085 Жыл бұрын
Lara's "I hate Tombs" line is meant to be ironic because she's an archaeologist and becomes immediately enthralled with her surroundings after saying t lol... Never got the hate.
@HughAverageHomoMan
@HughAverageHomoMan Жыл бұрын
just people cherrypicking a line to make it resemble the DMC reboot's cringe "not in a million years" line.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 4 ай бұрын
​@@HughAverageHomoMan tbh, both Dante versions are cringy, people just argue over which is less of a homoerotic emo. Saying this as someone who likes DMC.
@simboy4541
@simboy4541 Жыл бұрын
it's been so damn long. once again we get to see lara croft tomb raider, badass adventurer, treasure hunter, and former wearer of teal lycra
@SnesRulez
@SnesRulez Жыл бұрын
Please tell me I'm not the only one who has the massive urge of putting the Mario 64 Slide theme over every single sliding section of this game
@lionocyborg6030
@lionocyborg6030 7 ай бұрын
1:03:46 The caves are an active volcano and the floor collapsing exposes the lava chamber. The chain reaction caused by the explosions in fact causes the volcano to erupt which is why the palace and shantytown is set on fire. The bad bit is it isn’t a lava eruption and more the Mt St Helens kind which is lame. An escape through the burning town from a flood of lava would have been awesome especially if Himiko used pyroclastic flows to her advantage to down the chopper. Shadow made this mistake too using a lahar for its eruption late game. The DLC for Shadow thankfully didn’t make the same mistake this one does with its lava in that it’s too far away for Lara to fall in, merely acts like a bottomless pit and you only get lava twice in the game, the second time also being an almost identical looking pit on the volcanic peak you climb to reach Sam at the end.
@retrogamer4185
@retrogamer4185 Жыл бұрын
As soon as I found your retrospective videos on tomb raider I instantly became a fan I really enjoy the content
@yorkshirelass96
@yorkshirelass96 Жыл бұрын
As a gamer born n bred in South Yorkshire i do have a smile and a laugh everytime you say 'do it for Yorkshire'. Brilliant video. ❤
@TheKitchenWizard44
@TheKitchenWizard44 Жыл бұрын
Your tomb raider retrospectives truly are the best!, always a joy to come back and watch them
@Michaeluj
@Michaeluj Жыл бұрын
Fun fact: when you defeat the muscle guy boss on the boat, you can see--attached to his belt--a teddy bear. I felt so sad when I stood over his corpse....
@SilasYagami
@SilasYagami Жыл бұрын
This retrospective was so worth the wait! Thank you so much my dude, for your dedication and effort when it comes to your vids! Cheers!
@OneTrueNobody
@OneTrueNobody Жыл бұрын
54:20 - The thing about the "I hate tombs" line that people ignore when they bring it up as a criticism is that pretty much IMMEDIATELY after saying it, Lara turns around and immediately begins nerding out over the archeological discovery she's stumbled upon. So. Yeah.
@HughAverageHomoMan
@HughAverageHomoMan Жыл бұрын
feels like people tried turning it into another "not in a million years" controversy.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 4 ай бұрын
It's just a tongue in cheek self-reference but we live in a world where rage bait and reeeeeees give more clout than common sense.
@copiumhsrgi
@copiumhsrgi 27 күн бұрын
@@HughAverageHomoMan that would be true, if not for the fact that Ninja Theory did hated OG Dante (and it's been confirmed being a truth), here, I don't mind the line.
@hyruleguy9569
@hyruleguy9569 10 ай бұрын
The amount of ridiculously horrible shit that happens to Lara in this game is almost comical
@tnargtnarud
@tnargtnarud Жыл бұрын
Just like a delicious 90 minute film - but with additional scenes to add to the story. We thank you for taking your time and out of your personal life to provide us this long awaited retrospective! One of my favorite channels here! Thank you ❤❤❤❤
@SALMON2001
@SALMON2001 Жыл бұрын
holy SHIT this video was so well-made !!! great work man, glad to have found you
@GrimDrago
@GrimDrago 10 ай бұрын
I forgot that there even was a multiplayer mode
@obsoletelyfabulous1448
@obsoletelyfabulous1448 Жыл бұрын
I’m a simple man, I see Murray and Yorkshire Tea? I like!
@livashlin
@livashlin Жыл бұрын
This is such an excellent retrospective. When I think back to my 1st encounter with the game (in 2016) I hadn't, at that stage, played any video games for about 5 years prior. I was totally out of the loop and didn't even know that this title was made. I was gifted this game and I expected to be greeted with nostalgia. This new iteration being devoid of that style completely threw me and I kept waiting for "Tomb Raider" to happen. But, this retrospectively undoubtedly brings out the fact that this game is a really great game, with great ideas, a different kind of tone and mechanics to match. A great video for a really good game that I now want to play through again ❤
@regularshowman3208
@regularshowman3208 Жыл бұрын
Before we get the videos for the other two parts of this trilogy, I wanna give my two cents as a lifelong Tomb Raider fan, and say that my biggest problem with the reboot trilogy is that as it goes on it starts to kind of feel like it's trying way too hard to appeal to prestige by running away from a lot of the things that make Tomb Raider a fun franchise for me. One of my favorite parts of Tomb Raider is a lot of the absurdity you end up getting, especially in the classic games. Fighting multiple T-Rexes, a dragon, breaking into Area 51, a lot of it is almost kind of campy and it feels like it's having fun with itself. Meanwhile, the reboot trilogy feels afraid to do anything *too* out there or weird. The most you'll get is basically the same type of vaguely supernatural enemy that are kind of copy and pasted across all three games, and maybe something more explicit right at the end. It's kind of boring, honestly. The tombs are all these tiny little rooms that take about five minutes to solve, the stories are. Fine. It just feels very underwhelming to me as a Tomb Raider fan, and it just kind of ends up feeling like it doesn't want to be Tomb Raider.
@Arexion5293
@Arexion5293 Жыл бұрын
I also find the new Lara boring. OG Lara was a complete nutjob with a vendetta against T-Rexes, the Legend continuity Lara was a little more reasonable but still a smug and arrogant person. This new Lara is... What even is her character? Like she has a backstory and interests, but I get no sense of personality from her. She's just someone who does stuff and goes through stuff and is miserable throughout most of it. That's vague enough to describe almost any character. Who is this new Lara?
@regularshowman3208
@regularshowman3208 Жыл бұрын
@@Arexion5293 It kind of feels like they had something with the first game, but the problem is that they stretched out the whole "origin of Lara Croft thing" for three entire games, so she ends up feeling stagnant as a result. It doesn't help, either, that Trinity is the main antagonistic force and as villains they are. As dull as villains get, honestly.
@DragonClawBG
@DragonClawBG Жыл бұрын
Incredible work! While I am more of a LAU fan, because that's the Tomb Raider I grew up with, this made me remember what a great game TR2013 is. Come to think of it, it might be the strongest in the Survivor trilogy, though it's hard for me to judge as it's been a while since I last played any of them. Looking forward to the next retrospectives in due time!
@Pearl-Slug
@Pearl-Slug Жыл бұрын
My opinion that doesn't really matter: TR2013 is a good game, but it just doesn't feel like a Tomb Raider game. I think part of it is around that era in games (and media in general), everything was so gritty and realistic and took itself so seriously. It got exhausting after awhile. I dearly hope that if TR gets another reboot, it's as bonkers as the original games. I also appreciate what you said at the end about how people who have never played the old TR games view them. I'm a straight woman, I definitely don't play because of Lara's, uh, assets. XD I like the games because they're fun and she's freaking badass. When I first played a TR when I was, I don't know, five or six maybe, I thought she was the coolest video game character I had ever seen. (Also, watching this makes me realize how memorable this game is compared to ROTTR. Like, I played this game last in 2015, and ROTTR in 2017. I literally cannot tell you what happens in ROTTR. There's some snow, uhhh Jonah's there, and some lost civilization?? IDFK. Oh and Sam is brought up frustratingly little, if at all?)
@tacticaljunk1608
@tacticaljunk1608 Жыл бұрын
This whole retrospective project has been invaluable and no doubt, look like a lot of work went in to going this in depth for each title, and they've only gotten better with each analysis. Love the series and your take on them. The next game you're covering is one of my absolute favorites from the franchise, and I hope you'll love it too!
@gascoigne1990
@gascoigne1990 Жыл бұрын
Amazing work as always 👍. I was in tears with the Yorkshire tea joke. 🤣
@Iceman9122
@Iceman9122 Жыл бұрын
I really love those game with my biggest problem being the sequels never gave us the lara that this game promises. Still a fun game overall though
@SteveOfWarr
@SteveOfWarr Жыл бұрын
I don't "love" these games but I 100% agree with your last sentiment about them not delivering what they promised
@instrumentaldude8349
@instrumentaldude8349 Жыл бұрын
finally found the time to watch your video from TR 2013 😊. And it didn't disappoint! It was perfect in every way and I can only imagine how much work you put into it! You've really progressed a lot since your first TR retrospective. It's an honor to watch you grow in your talent that i saw you had since the beginning. Keep it up Steve and the ending gave me goosebumps from the Metal Gear Solid 1 soundtrack you used 😝! Looking forward to your next retro Steve! My highest respect for all the hard work you put into your videos!
@guiwa4000
@guiwa4000 Жыл бұрын
It was worth the wait, nicely done. Can't wait to see you ranting about how Lara never uses her dual berettas ever again. Cheers
@leonkaminski3658
@leonkaminski3658 Жыл бұрын
This was a great video. But sadly in my opinion you forgot the easter egg to TR1. When you are in the Research Base and collect a specific hidden geocache, Lara says "Aha" and a music will be played. This is an easter egg to TR1 where Lara collects an artifact/secret and the typical specific secret music plays while you collect it.
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 4 ай бұрын
One small addition: "Aha" is a reference to Tomb Raider 2. She says that when picking up any item there.
@gamerowl9934
@gamerowl9934 Жыл бұрын
Another great review Steve, the wait was worth all the way! I remember my father, brother and I waiting for another Tomb Raider game for so long after not having so much fun with TR Underworld beforehand. 2013 we didn't rent the game like we normally always did, we full on bought it. Us three played 1/4 of the game then and there the whole night and I have so many fond memories of this game because of it. Also at 42:57 that barrel was going crazy! 😂
@seakwenz
@seakwenz 11 ай бұрын
Your editing and production value is so good and has improved so much since your first Tomb Raider review. The Time Crisis bit had me laughing so hard.
@mattybob12310
@mattybob12310 Жыл бұрын
The Roth skits were making me howl! Brilliant video mate, well worth the wait!
@themightybagle99
@themightybagle99 Жыл бұрын
Probably my favorite detail In this game that the sequels never continued on, Is Lara becoming more and more damaged and beaten through out the game and by the end she just looks completely different then what she looked like at the beginning. She sure has suffered through this game.
@rusty7448
@rusty7448 Жыл бұрын
31:49 - not the only moment like this. I'm actually surprised you didn't point out "the survival" moment where she is impaled in a cesspool of human waste and remains, crawls through this with a pretty large and deep open wound and then it takes her several DAYS before even thinking about doing something about that injury (namely is offered a bandage). As the "canon" is right now, she should be long dead from various infections and/or bloodloss. I hunt, make a campfire and crawl through WW2 bunker before thinking: "Oh, I got a pretty big hole in my stomach." The "survival" bubble burst pretty damn early for me. Edit: Great job, loved the video. Liked and subscribed.
@joshsmit513
@joshsmit513 26 күн бұрын
I was shocked that this game’s story wasn’t written by Lemony Snickett. Watching her get constantly injured and just basically shrug it off got so ridiculous because of how they touted it being grounded in reality compared to the originals.
@MistahJay7
@MistahJay7 Жыл бұрын
Lara and Sam were the best part of the game. A shame they dropped Sam from the sequels. Instead they just wrote her off as possessed and crazy lol could have done something more with her character going forward.
@fastinradfordable
@fastinradfordable 21 күн бұрын
She’s a strong independent woman she’ll be fine
@anthonyforbes3773
@anthonyforbes3773 Жыл бұрын
Excellent video Steve! Definitely worth the wait! This game really was the game that got me into the series as a whole with my first exposure to it being AOD. I actually remembered buying this game at launch back in the day. One of the things that I loved about this game was the progression of Lara’s character. Just seeing her go from a scared girl just trying to survive by any means to AN ABSOLUTE WARRIOR is so satisfying to see. I made me cheer her on throughout the game lol I feel that this game doesn’t get as much appreciation for the community as it deserves. Yes it is VERY different from the previous titles but the ideas this game brings to the table are really good imo. Dare I say but this game is honestly is one of my favorite games of all time and I’m glad it was done justice!
@angel_ash2472
@angel_ash2472 Жыл бұрын
Another fantastic video Steve! Once again you have absolutely smashed it! You should be very proud! Perfection! 👌🏻
@SteveOfWarr
@SteveOfWarr Жыл бұрын
Thank you Ash 😁
@linton85
@linton85 Жыл бұрын
The Time Crisis and Radioactive Man edit is gold 😂
@shababacroft
@shababacroft 11 ай бұрын
Such a phenomenal retrospective video as always!! and i must say the humor was the highlight of this video to me JFSKSDFJK i was dying after every 5 minutes ESPECIALLY THIS MOMENT 48:37 TOOK ME OUT 😭😭😭
@skydivepilot
@skydivepilot Жыл бұрын
I am an airline Captain in Germany and I have four flights tomorrow (not too early). Still: It's midnight now and I cannot go to sleep before I haven't finished this video, which I have been looking forward to for more than one year (while binge-watching your other videos every few weeks to bridge the gap until this very day). Thank you, for what you do. I loved the moment when you were about to make the Breaking Bad reference and I went "... she is the one wo knocks" right when you said it ❤
@ayylmaoowatnext6748
@ayylmaoowatnext6748 Жыл бұрын
This video came just in time. The first time I watched these retrospectives it helped me through a really tough time. Here we are again. Thanks, Steve. (,=
@krycekuva
@krycekuva Жыл бұрын
well, the entire game was set in a tomb. himikos island is itself a massive unintentional tomb for himiko and for every other who gets stuck in it.
@apo.7898
@apo.7898 5 ай бұрын
Then the earth is a tomb too.
@krycekuva
@krycekuva 5 ай бұрын
@@apo.7898 aha
@craftingranger7552
@craftingranger7552 Ай бұрын
I'm excited for your video on Rise, the more i've replayed this trilogy the more i see how they fumbled the bag with all the cuts Rise went through. Shadow is amazing on it's own in my opinion, it fits the direction 2013 was leading towards but Rise really suffered from an unrealised middle game where they didn't know how to uniquely raise the stakes, Lara is more competent so give her bigger challenges, she doesn't have to be caught off guard all the time anymore. The stealth was great though, those sections with the tombs are the best.
@luckywallace
@luckywallace Жыл бұрын
Great video, really love this series. As a big fan of the Legend / Anniversary / Underworld trilogy I'm not that into this game - it's good for what it is - a gritty 3rd person shooter with minimal puzzles and platforming. I call it 'Gears of Lara'. I also thought the plot was ludicrous and Lara's transition from somebody who had never used a gun before to badass unstoppable super-soldier was so ridiculously unbelievable I couldn't suspend my disbelief. For me 'Rise' was the best of the latest trilogy, looking forward to your review of that.
@madmandonna1
@madmandonna1 Жыл бұрын
This must have taken you so long to do, your videos are always immaculately edited and very well written and funny. This flew by and I can't wait to see your Rise of the Tomb Raider retrospective. I can't believe this game is 10 years old, but it certain plays the best compared to the other CD games and certainly Core Designs. I feel they fixed the vast majority of the gameplay issues in 2nd game. Just a shame the twin pistols just never get used again.
@lionocyborg6030
@lionocyborg6030 7 ай бұрын
I like Shantytown. Not so much the combat but definitely the climbing on everything. It’s even better when you return to its ruins later to ride the furnicular down the mountain like it’s a giant ski lift. It even has the pool of raw sewage in one area which is the second time since the end of Lud’s gate we’ve had realistic sewage in Tomb Raider, minus it being caustic or behaving like movie quicksand.
@rhys7428
@rhys7428 Жыл бұрын
28:24 OMG!😂 "You remind me of my sister" holy fuck thats crazy, my jaw literally dropped, idk what to say... Thats very shocking wow
@KasumiRINA
@KasumiRINA 4 ай бұрын
I mean, he's russian. Last thing I watched today before they bombed my city again was how they cut off ears of suspects and eat them... Then they torture confessions by applying electric shock to genitals. Rite of passage in russian army is male on male raep. That's real life, in media russian war crimes are WAY white-washed.
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