Track Battle!: 2ZZ MR-S VS 2GR V6 MR2

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Touge Time

Touge Time

2 жыл бұрын

300hp SW20 vs 180hp MRS
SW20: Cammed/Tuned 2gr, coilovers/geometry kit, a052, incomplete interior
ZZW30: 2zz, coilovers, Re71f/a052r, full interior
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@attacklifeuk
@attacklifeuk 2 жыл бұрын
"2zz lacks power here" anti k20 swap crew breathing intensifies
@cxbra
@cxbra 2 жыл бұрын
K24 swap would be insane! Make the same hp (when tuned) as the 2GR mr2, but with 150-200lb less weight.
@jackparker6425
@jackparker6425 2 жыл бұрын
@@cxbra fun fact, not true. K24 is pretty much the same weight. And NA power stock for stock is in the GR's favor
@loganamurray64
@loganamurray64 2 жыл бұрын
@@cxbra K24’s aren’t much lighter than the 2GR lol
@dylan4972
@dylan4972 Жыл бұрын
@グルグ that's why I decided to go for the 2GR on my SW20, but ended up turboing it as well.
@freshtapcoke
@freshtapcoke Жыл бұрын
Just performed 2ZZ swap crew 😭
@BryanHeitkotter
@BryanHeitkotter 2 жыл бұрын
That 2GR rips! Never heard one sound so good and rev so high. Love your 2ZZ too, best sounding example on the intertubes.
@mikey.4is
@mikey.4is 5 ай бұрын
every 2gr sounds like that when it has short exhaust travel, also this one is cammed that's why it revs higher
@JesseSpec
@JesseSpec 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome video dude! Good driving and keep pushing! That 2GR sounds soooo mean :-)
@j.chenmuas
@j.chenmuas 2 жыл бұрын
What a blast to watch you and apex at the track together!! 🔥💯
@MrLuke655
@MrLuke655 2 жыл бұрын
Your videos are always proper sick! I love the nostalgic elements (The Fast and the Furious in this one and Gran Turismo music in others). Keep it up!
@chrisjarvis955
@chrisjarvis955 2 жыл бұрын
Love the videos man keep them up for us.
@cxbra
@cxbra 2 жыл бұрын
This might be the best mr2 related video on the internet!
@tweakgames
@tweakgames 2 жыл бұрын
Nice, I am building a 2GR MRS right now, I am located in Seattle area too. Hope to see you on the track someday soon! :D
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Nice I'd like to check it out sometime
@jackparker6425
@jackparker6425 2 жыл бұрын
Get on the Frankenstein Motorworks Discord
@tweakgames
@tweakgames 2 жыл бұрын
@@jackparker6425 lol I think I got banned from there. It's fine, felt like a giant child daycare. Watching Marc answer all the kids noob questions over and over and over for free. I recommended Marc charge for his consulting work and was quickly banned after. :) They called me evil. LOL
@aristoyotacorner
@aristoyotacorner 2 жыл бұрын
@@tweakgames nah it was because you fucking doxxed someone not because you told Marc to charge for consulting.
@aristoyotacorner
@aristoyotacorner 2 жыл бұрын
Correlation does not equal causation.
@bullfrogzbodyshop
@bullfrogzbodyshop 2 жыл бұрын
Awesome man,livin the dream good for you buddy
@gmadgengarage
@gmadgengarage 2 жыл бұрын
Great run dude! I think you hit that PB because you were dialed in trying to catch a faster car.
@stevensnarr8957
@stevensnarr8957 2 жыл бұрын
I like what you have done to your Midship.2zz sounds great !!!
@nickkings2220
@nickkings2220 2 жыл бұрын
The 86 speed chime lmao 🤣🤣
@aftastosk6016
@aftastosk6016 2 жыл бұрын
The 2GR is sounds like a baby V12...awesome!
@RandomGuyWithaMazda
@RandomGuyWithaMazda 2 жыл бұрын
the no-lift shift @4:18 is butter 🤌
@RandomGuyWithaMazda
@RandomGuyWithaMazda 2 жыл бұрын
rewatched again, shitbox intercooler AND nolift-- you love to see it
@Domi39
@Domi39 2 жыл бұрын
But he lifted?...
@8bit_bryan
@8bit_bryan Жыл бұрын
catch-a-driiiiift!! 11:01 🙀 awesome driving from both POVs!
@meleenterprises
@meleenterprises 2 жыл бұрын
Keep it up dude!
@Wargeneralguy
@Wargeneralguy 2 жыл бұрын
I have a mr2 2zz build too, just baught stage 3 cams and valves and springs etc.. but Holy shit does that 2gr sound good
@noekiyu
@noekiyu 2 жыл бұрын
I love that sound of the 2zz
@rav3r0c
@rav3r0c 2 жыл бұрын
should try out a 2ar spyder if you ever get the chance! I'm gonna be turboing my 2ar over the winter if there are no financial hiccups the rest of the year. as of my knowledge should be the first 2ar turbo swapped spyder
@yojoshman8663
@yojoshman8663 Жыл бұрын
awesome vid! I want an mr2 spyder now lol
@NUAgeMotoring
@NUAgeMotoring 2 жыл бұрын
It was nice meeting you that day! I have to remember to add a 30mm socket to the tool bin lol
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Lol. Nice to meet you too. See u at the next one
@rjim89
@rjim89 Жыл бұрын
I got k swap duce, but love how the 2zz screams at lift
@georgmoro5594
@georgmoro5594 Жыл бұрын
😎 Super geil danke 👍
@erwinlevasier
@erwinlevasier Жыл бұрын
Hi there, what seat are you using, and how did you mount it? There is no movement in the corners, and most (bottom mounted)seats go from left to right. Awesome video 😍😍
@supermantom2456
@supermantom2456 Жыл бұрын
3:46 absolute fire driving
@styledliving
@styledliving 2 жыл бұрын
4:16, engine starting to get hot? Also, is the AC compressor installed? w/ the Front Defroster on, the default is to engage the AC clutch.
@gpajic1987
@gpajic1987 Жыл бұрын
Does the geometry kit make a noticeable difference on the sw?
@Kootthedog
@Kootthedog 2 жыл бұрын
snap over steer is fake news !! LOL great video
@xaakixan
@xaakixan 6 ай бұрын
Laptimer app? 2GR sounds awesome!!
@kobet7341
@kobet7341 2 жыл бұрын
I need to take my Integra to the ridge at some point
@zokusharuuku1091
@zokusharuuku1091 2 жыл бұрын
Eh sometimes braking a little early is good so you can be smooth and come on power sooner making you come out of the turn faster. A professional told me awd cars have to do this and I’d bet it helps mid engine cars as well.
@nickfarcy5124
@nickfarcy5124 6 ай бұрын
What lap-timing app/software are you using?
@maxwell5428
@maxwell5428 2 жыл бұрын
4:16 heat on max for all the horsepowers
@alexknightwrc
@alexknightwrc 2 жыл бұрын
I have a 2ZZ MR2. Does it need more power? Probably. Do I want more power? No. It’s kind of between a B16A and a B18C. It’s a great engine, super reliable, and sounds fantastic.
@Haddedam
@Haddedam 2 жыл бұрын
I got cammed 1zz and I'm fine with the power I'm at. I'm only half a sec behind my friends 2zz's track only MRS with my daily and that's just behind finding balls and fixing my camber and corner balance, which he has done. "1zz bad" is a meme where I'm sitting.
@lmenzol
@lmenzol Жыл бұрын
@@Haddedam what cams are you running?
@Haddedam
@Haddedam Жыл бұрын
@@lmenzol Crower stage one, and I've recently beaten my 2zz friend times by a lot back when he was on same tyres as me on some tracks
@lmenzol
@lmenzol Жыл бұрын
@@Haddedam cool I was looking at stage 2. I would go 2zz if it wasn’t for the oil pump issues and the fact that you can’t really build the bottom end
@Haddedam
@Haddedam Жыл бұрын
@@lmenzol Teddy yuen reccomends skipping stage 2 altogether and going stage 3 and a tune. He reguarly builds and dynos 1zz's that make 180hp, all he does is just intake, ecu, stage 3 cams and a dyno tune. I'm thinking of switching to stage 3 as well next year.
@einarmonroy1612
@einarmonroy1612 2 жыл бұрын
What camera you using for feet cam ?
@tito.senpai_
@tito.senpai_ 2 жыл бұрын
what short throw shifter do you have in your mrs?
@andrewnaylor9507
@andrewnaylor9507 2 жыл бұрын
Mk2 mrs 2gr swap is my dream car rn fs
@trod-s2k
@trod-s2k 2 жыл бұрын
Time to swap in another driver :o Waiting for Touge trackday at Thunderhill...
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Yes I'd like to join the rest of 4x4 🐸 gang
@SgtSuissie
@SgtSuissie 7 ай бұрын
how do you mount foot cam
@halililkman4477
@halililkman4477 2 жыл бұрын
Great car and great driving maybe k24 swap is better for that car :)
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Eventually!
@hanaburton
@hanaburton 2 жыл бұрын
Feeeeeeeet yes
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
😳
@culgate
@culgate 2 жыл бұрын
TC2 checking in, mfw no Fukada post
@Who_will_be_SENDO
@Who_will_be_SENDO 2 жыл бұрын
What do you think about increasing the rear wheel only to increase the MR-S corner limit close to RR?
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Like tire size? I have a set of 225/245 15sand another set of 225/255 17s. I was just burning off old tires
@Who_will_be_SENDO
@Who_will_be_SENDO 2 жыл бұрын
@@TougeTime you're rear tire is already bigger. im square setting, but the back flowed so well that I was going to grow a rear tire. My setting is 205/45/16 Square setting.
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Ya I like mine to understeer so I can throw the car in and let it wash out
@Who_will_be_SENDO
@Who_will_be_SENDO 2 жыл бұрын
@@TougeTime i like oversteer.but the limit of the square setting is too low
@asyrigos
@asyrigos 2 жыл бұрын
Pedal cam is great! Thx for adding it. What is the best wheel/tire size in your opinion? 15s with 205 front 225 rear?
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
225 245
@asyrigos
@asyrigos 2 жыл бұрын
Wow that’s a lot of rubber. Does it fit in the stock fenders? What offset are you running?
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
15x9+35
@asyrigos
@asyrigos 2 жыл бұрын
And does not rub front and rear?
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
No. I've ran 255 in my other videos with no rub.
@ItsPainnz
@ItsPainnz Жыл бұрын
mike colon???
@ryshask
@ryshask Жыл бұрын
the v6 in the sw20... sounds better than any of the current 500k to 1 million dollar cars out there... there's no comparison.
@str8ballin297
@str8ballin297 Жыл бұрын
Lexus lfa
@ABeans07
@ABeans07 2 жыл бұрын
Up for Ja rule/Monica
@reshinguneko2355
@reshinguneko2355 2 жыл бұрын
I WAS THERE 😳
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
👉👈
2 жыл бұрын
What application are you using for the lap times?
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Harry's laptimer
2 жыл бұрын
@@TougeTime awesome, thanks for the info. I've been using RaceChrono but the UI on this one looks cool.
@maybelive765
@maybelive765 2 жыл бұрын
Fuckin Sick eh
@alwintheskateboarder
@alwintheskateboarder 2 жыл бұрын
What'd you use to mount the pedal cam?
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Tape
@Weimerica8841
@Weimerica8841 2 жыл бұрын
@@TougeTime no homo but I love you man
@sirscrotum
@sirscrotum Жыл бұрын
I just utilize the oem gen 3 3sgte :/
@zokusharuuku1091
@zokusharuuku1091 2 жыл бұрын
Dang if only it was a 1zz turbo or 2zz turbo it would have more power than the 2gr and you’d put the power down faster coming out of corners. That sw20 never would’ve passed.
@Ottobon_extra
@Ottobon_extra 7 ай бұрын
this is peak NFS underground tier comment
@tonyso5525
@tonyso5525 2 жыл бұрын
What track is this? Looks fun
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
The ridge motorsports park
@RavenGTR79
@RavenGTR79 2 жыл бұрын
What's the name of the race course?
@Dliverance
@Dliverance 3 ай бұрын
Ridge Motorsports Park
@RavenGTR79
@RavenGTR79 3 ай бұрын
@@Dliverance thank you 🤜🏿🤛🏿
@deadboy4016
@deadboy4016 2 жыл бұрын
Tog Chat 2 Was Here
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
Doubt
@deadboy4016
@deadboy4016 2 жыл бұрын
@@TougeTime Fukada 2FA
@Ryukiii_
@Ryukiii_ 2 жыл бұрын
calm down passanger! calm down! everything ok? 1:30
@kaziofr
@kaziofr 2 жыл бұрын
Rotrex will be your friend...
@Truulovemotorsports
@Truulovemotorsports 2 жыл бұрын
nice. needs k ok
@Truulovemotorsports
@Truulovemotorsports 2 жыл бұрын
sounds like no clip on the bearing that sux
@amazingkoolspydadwm6219
@amazingkoolspydadwm6219 2 жыл бұрын
i disliked the 11.08 feeling 😖😖 but otherwise 2gr rocks on track
@el_croc311
@el_croc311 2 жыл бұрын
FROG
@dimgru3948
@dimgru3948 2 жыл бұрын
2zz :D 2gr is ok
@michaelscholten9753
@michaelscholten9753 2 жыл бұрын
Time to swap in a 2ar
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
If I use Frankenstein kit I'm just going to wait for his 2gr lol
@michaelscholten9753
@michaelscholten9753 2 жыл бұрын
@@TougeTime I think 300 whp in a Spyder would be a lot. 250 with cams in a 2ar is probably more than tires can handle anyway.
@TougeTime
@TougeTime 2 жыл бұрын
@@michaelscholten9753 I'm getting gt300 eventually ! Hah
@miaxix888
@miaxix888 2 жыл бұрын
2gr = Telephatic
@ecooley257
@ecooley257 2 жыл бұрын
Snap oversteer is fake news! I get sick of seeing that as a con to driving an SW30. Seems like whoever writes those articles has never driven one.
@zero_to_1000
@zero_to_1000 2 жыл бұрын
boost.....
@justintowers8230
@justintowers8230 2 жыл бұрын
ya too bad toyota went downhill after 2000. went from a 2 litre 3SGE in altezza to a 1.8 liter no torque 2zz.
@loganamurray64
@loganamurray64 2 жыл бұрын
The 2ZZ is in many ways superior to the 3S, my biggest gripe with it is that it’s not a 2.0 but I understand why it isnt.
@justintowers8230
@justintowers8230 2 жыл бұрын
@@loganamurray64 ya toyota had no funds to make a proper alloy 3sge 6th gen motor. Much less a new 2 liter 2zz. the only reason i believe they went with a 2nd cam profile engine (like vtec) was for emissions. Besides all 2zz, from the corolla 170hp to the TRD Sports M 200hp engine fall out of their power band when shifting at peak power. The TRD sports M should of got a 4.7 final drive, which is why it wasnt popular like the ITR DC2
@loganamurray64
@loganamurray64 2 жыл бұрын
@@justintowers8230 gotta remember the 2ZZ is also 1ZZ which is also a 1.8 and they wanted to keep very similar exterior dimensions and the same bore spacing. So without a longer stroke (which they didn’t want to/probably couldnt do) they couldn’t have made it a 2.0, it’d just be too costly and possibly unreliable. Emissions was definitely a part of the reason for VVTL-i but it was also their reluctance for turbo’s and wanting to make more power in their small cars like the Celica and Corolla without using a larger engine. Kind of a compromise of a million things as is common these days, all around though they really did a respectable job all things considered.
@justintowers8230
@justintowers8230 2 жыл бұрын
@@loganamurray64 hmm well it seems when you shift @ 8k you can keep the revs in the rpm band (in the lift zone) its a damn good motor. In the trd sports M debut. It seems the driver didnt take it to 8k, thus loosing to the Integra
@justintowers8230
@justintowers8230 2 жыл бұрын
@グルグ i dont understand why toyota didnt give the mrs the 2zz. Did they make a contract with lotus in 99 stating not to sell the mr2 with 2zz? Was the president of toyota against 2zz in mrs?
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