Track IR in action | A simple demonstration in several flight simulators

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Flysim

Flysim

4 жыл бұрын

This is the track IR system very useful for flight simulator pilots, and is an alternative to vr setups. Track IR helps you look around from the cockpit as natural as possible and is just a fraction of the cost of high-end VR systems.
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In this video I show many simulators where you can use the trackir system, war thunder, DCS world, IL-2 Sturmovik and even my rc simulator Aerofly RC 7.

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@Hempage
@Hempage 11 ай бұрын
I wish more people included the face view as part of the review. It really helps a lot to get a sense of the amount of movement required to get this effect.
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 11 ай бұрын
You can change the sensitivity of it.
@Rmi_brandito
@Rmi_brandito 3 жыл бұрын
If only that monitor can move with your head😂
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 3 жыл бұрын
You're describing a VR headset haha
@himselfer1
@himselfer1 3 жыл бұрын
It called real life
@Randomguy-sq5sj
@Randomguy-sq5sj 2 жыл бұрын
@@himselfer1 or vr
@Lovely_planet
@Lovely_planet 2 жыл бұрын
3 monitors lol
@user-wq9mw2xz3j
@user-wq9mw2xz3j 2 жыл бұрын
yeah. this seems totally useless. how can you see to the side when there is no screen there? still $100-200, spend a $100 more and get a quest.
@laflemme7247
@laflemme7247 9 ай бұрын
if youre also a truck driving enthusiast (ATS and ETS2), then this works to facilitate observation at junctions and in general. very useful for realistic driving
@stevenandrewcallicottjr.
@stevenandrewcallicottjr. 3 жыл бұрын
Awesome. Very informative and Thank You. Great flying and gorgeous scenery too. Thanks again.
@Artiglio1977
@Artiglio1977 2 жыл бұрын
Grazie amico 😉💪
@crashesnfails
@crashesnfails 4 жыл бұрын
nice vid!
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 4 жыл бұрын
Thank you.
@artyboy1377
@artyboy1377 3 жыл бұрын
Gosh u just convinced me to put an order for the TrackIR 5! Seems so natural I think it will definitely be a game changer for me! The only thing negative is that I'll need to wear a cap while flying :(
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 3 жыл бұрын
Did you get your track ir? I use the pro clip that has better tracking and you attach it to your headset.
@artyboy1377
@artyboy1377 3 жыл бұрын
@@flysimulation Yeah! Am playing MSFS 2020 & DCS on it past few days and thoroughly enjoying it! I installed Sputknocker's profile which was a real godsend. I definitely preferred TrackIR to VR! (I have Vive Pro + 2080Ti + i9-9900K). I got the non-pro version as I don't use headphones while playing games.
@StarWarsJokes
@StarWarsJokes 3 жыл бұрын
@@artyboy1377 why you prefer it to vr ?
@artyboy1377
@artyboy1377 3 жыл бұрын
@@StarWarsJokes I cannot accept the drastic drop I'm resolution in VR. Getting a VR headset with 2x 4K wouldn't solve that problem because not even the latest flagship GPU can handle it, so the technology is just not ready. As an example, MSFS 2020 automatically downgrades the graphics to Low once it detects VR usage so you have an idea.
@StarWarsJokes
@StarWarsJokes 3 жыл бұрын
​@@artyboy1377 The new RTX 3080 and 3090 can handle dual 4K screens resolutions at 60 fps or more for many AAA games (they suffer on MSFS 2020 but it's still incredible). But I see your point, why would you spend 2500$ in a GPU who is available anywhere? lol
@flippyjunior1267
@flippyjunior1267 Жыл бұрын
this is great
@T_BG_TRRR
@T_BG_TRRR 4 жыл бұрын
Those War Thunder clips must be years old, its better than that these days. Adjust your settings too so things aren't so wobbly and sensitive Im on PS4 and wish i could get trackir or something similar and reliable. Its hard work on gamepad but ive gotten used to it. For me to look around i have to click in the right stick, hold it down while tracking enemies and flying with left stick. I lose out on rudder but i hardly ever need it in a dogfight anyway. TrackIR would be a game changer
@MrSpinkser
@MrSpinkser 3 жыл бұрын
Though the video is nice, the creator had a terrible setup to his trackir. the motion-multiplier, the speed and smoothness of the tracking can be individuelly adjusted in 6 degrees of motion....
@matt79hz
@matt79hz 3 жыл бұрын
Is it easy enough to see the screen when looking all the way left or right, or even slightly to the rear out the windows ?
@blank6603
@blank6603 2 жыл бұрын
yes and you can just curves to make it so you don't need to turn as much.
@MrSande
@MrSande Жыл бұрын
@@blank6603 needed this
@drxym
@drxym 2 жыл бұрын
Opentrack would be a way of doing the same without buying a $150 gadget. It uses a webcam and it will track your head, lights or a QR style sticker on a cap.
@Roomer645
@Roomer645 3 жыл бұрын
But, this requires you to look at the screen ... I mean when looking to the left the tracking will follow but you won't be able to see it properly as you will have to glance at the display from the corner of your eye ...
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's the only disadvantage of this but you can set it up to have the movement multiplied so that you don't have to turn your head that much but becomes very sensitive. This system comes with a software to set it up with curves, etc.
@henrikhansen1023
@henrikhansen1023 3 жыл бұрын
Sic "But, this requires you to look at the screen" EXACTLY ....which is why this concept can never substitute for VR. Actually no matter how impressive it looks on videos it is an open question wetter or not it really contribute to your sense of orientation when you have to take into the consideration the adjustment of looking in a different than what you head is turned. I prefer using the hat.
@ChainsawDNA
@ChainsawDNA 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrikhansen1023 When you adjust the sensitivity, smaller head movements allow you to look all around while still comfortably viewing the screen. For those who suffer from VR motion sickness, this head tracking system is an excellent option. Much better than using button hats - no comparison actually.
@fabiogentili
@fabiogentili 3 жыл бұрын
Can u use the mouse to look around while track ir is active ?
@nathanc6611
@nathanc6611 3 жыл бұрын
Can you use this in conjunction with your joystick hat mapped to view control? I’m thinking particularly for ‘checking your 6’ - use the hat, but when facing forward naturally using head movement to look more closely. The whole ‘turning your head but looking straight ahead’ thing looks...uncomfortable
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 3 жыл бұрын
Yes that's possible, you can combine the functions.
@andyinthewatford7025
@andyinthewatford7025 Жыл бұрын
Still don’t understand how this works. If you look left it obviously tracks left but then you’re not looking at the monitor?
@kylerobinson6102
@kylerobinson6102 6 ай бұрын
Sorry for the late reply - you can adjust it. So if you turn your head 10% you get like a 50% spin on the screen. It's very cool.
@Demonsouls1993
@Demonsouls1993 3 жыл бұрын
looks like a prototype of a VR
@l0rdcroissant
@l0rdcroissant 2 жыл бұрын
the head movement with eyes forward does look awkward but since you love it I guess not
@GameDevNerd
@GameDevNerd 3 жыл бұрын
lol the guys shoulder-shooting over the top of your plane (when you were flying the Bf-109) trying to steal your kill deserved to be shot when they flew in front of you ... I'd have lit them up with 20mm cannons and had some words with them XD
@turnerables
@turnerables Жыл бұрын
Can you increase lateral sensitivity so that looking to the right or left a little moves the screen more so you don’t have to strain as much?
@flysimulation
@flysimulation Жыл бұрын
Yes it is possible
@nategoodwin3329
@nategoodwin3329 2 жыл бұрын
Jet noise and tech, what's not to love?
@AbiNubli
@AbiNubli 3 жыл бұрын
Can I adjust it to make it like I looking through the window? It seems weird with all the head turning but still keeping your eyes straight
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 3 жыл бұрын
You can set it up so it's 1:1 ratio and have 3 screens in total.
@asandor83
@asandor83 3 жыл бұрын
do you not need anything to be attached to your head? or was that just for older models? which model are you using anyway? :)
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 3 жыл бұрын
Yes I have a clip on the side of my headphones, the clip is featured on the thumbnail of the video, it has infrared lights for the tracker to follow.
@MsTheCops
@MsTheCops Жыл бұрын
Thanks ...I just subscribed. I have one coming in from Amazon in a couple weeks. How do you think it will perform on a huge triple screen setup? I'm running 43 inch (4 K) TV's on a RTX 3080.
@flysimulation
@flysimulation Жыл бұрын
It should work fine!
@uneCENT
@uneCENT 4 жыл бұрын
Cool, does this cause the same motion sickness VR causes?
@uneCENT
@uneCENT 4 жыл бұрын
@Ozzy Trooper Thanks!
@wankywatanabe7490
@wankywatanabe7490 3 жыл бұрын
i usually get sick with vr but i’ve never had the same problem with trackir. i’m pretty sure it’s because the reason people get sick with vr is because the motion being perceived by the eyes is not agreeing with the motion sensed by the inner ear. so, if you jumped from a height in vr, your eyes think that you’re falling down, since vr is much more immersive than doing the same thing with a monitor. however, the inner ear senses no motion which confuses the brain and makes people throw up when they put on face toasters. i think the reason trackir is more agreeable is since your subconscious brain still “sees” the static room around your monitor, even though in the heat of the moment you don’t consciously look at it.
@ryker8258
@ryker8258 3 жыл бұрын
No it shouldn't as you aren't immersed like you would be in very, it would be like playing normaly but moving your head around more
@ivanplavljanic1057
@ivanplavljanic1057 3 жыл бұрын
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA please tell me this question was posted by a 10-15 year old.
@kiq4767
@kiq4767 3 жыл бұрын
@@wankywatanabe7490 I'd say it also has to do with the eyes not having to to move independently longitudinally. If you look at the point of your nose your eyes have to move closer to get into conversion point, while looking at a distant object your eyes are relatively forward. At least in the cases of the VRs I used, your eyes don't need to move independently, but I could be wrong.
@rafaelg4566
@rafaelg4566 Жыл бұрын
So if you are using VR headset and you have to press buttons in the cockpit, do you have to grab the VR controller (that is if you can find it) to to press the button? Whereas, if you are using the trackir you can see your keyboard and mouse right away.
@notxen3324
@notxen3324 Жыл бұрын
Thankfully no
@BuddySpike101
@BuddySpike101 3 жыл бұрын
The guy looks like agent Pena from Narcos.
@ramizt1984
@ramizt1984 3 жыл бұрын
you are so so righttttttt 😂😂😂😂🤣🤣
@kevincole2484
@kevincole2484 3 жыл бұрын
How will you be able to see what your looking at on the monitor, when you look left and right? This would cause you to be facing away from the monitor, so how does this work?
@Tom-90210
@Tom-90210 2 жыл бұрын
You move your eyes...
@pablodronefishing7607
@pablodronefishing7607 4 жыл бұрын
Buen vídeo joy😉😉👌👌
@iSPELLinAMERICAN
@iSPELLinAMERICAN 3 жыл бұрын
Do you ever get eye strain from turning your head but still focusing your eyes on your screen? Turning head left and right but still looking at monitor
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 3 жыл бұрын
Yes some times. But you can set up the multiplayer to move the virtual head more with little movement.
@iSPELLinAMERICAN
@iSPELLinAMERICAN 3 жыл бұрын
@@flysimulation thank you
@alanluscombe8a553
@alanluscombe8a553 Жыл бұрын
Sooo, how do you look behind you?
@tzeffsmainchannel
@tzeffsmainchannel 6 ай бұрын
You know that if you *reduce the angle* of your motion response you won't be cranking your head this much -> 2:50 anymore, right?
@glennledrew8347
@glennledrew8347 2 жыл бұрын
I can tell that your monitor subtends a small apparent angle. That is, the screen is one or both of small size and/or is located far away. How do I know? Because with even a fairly small panning angle of your head, I can see your eyes swivel so as to keep the screen (more properly, the subject of interest) in sight. I would guess your screen width subtends something like a 30 degree apparent angle. I use a reasonably large screen, and the monitor is set up pretty close to me as well. The result is an apparent angular width approaching 90 degrees. The benefits are two-fold: 1) The image scale is not much different from reality at my usual wide FoV, which has a significant impact on immersion. It makes for another reason to look favorably toward head tracking vs a VR headset. (If VR panning is scaled 1:1, that means MUCH more head swivelling, which can be more tiring.) 2) When I pan around with my TrackIR, my eyes do not have to swivel to any meaningful degree. Even when I am looking toward the virtual rear, my eyes-straight gaze has my eyes looking about 2/3 of the way from screen center to edge. By not having to keep swiveling my eyes in their sockets just to keep the subject under foveal vision, eye fatigue is not an issue.
@trucktrucker5043
@trucktrucker5043 9 ай бұрын
I suppose looking behind at your six o'clock is impossible since you'll have to turn your head and take eyes away from the screen
@buttchunksofdoomd4939
@buttchunksofdoomd4939 2 жыл бұрын
holy shit, ive never seen anything like this....
@Hellohallo
@Hellohallo Жыл бұрын
or mobile phone, with cardboard front/holders
@genesimmons8576
@genesimmons8576 Жыл бұрын
CAN YOU USE TRAC R ON X BOX
@salmonskinlover2365
@salmonskinlover2365 3 жыл бұрын
What VR headsets are in the realm of "thousands"?
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 3 жыл бұрын
HTC vive pro and vive pro cosmos elite for example.
@AgentJeffy
@AgentJeffy 3 жыл бұрын
The release of the Quest 2 is going to put the final nail in the coffin of Track IR. There is no comparison to the immersion and efficiency of using a VR headset to fly a plane. Track IR was a nice option for decent resolution and simulated VR, but it still fell short. Now VR is cheaper or the same price as trackIR. lol
@miketran312
@miketran312 3 жыл бұрын
Actually not, you will need a powerful gpu to run it. That alone is 3-4 times the price of trackir. So it’s not in the “about the same” price range.
@AgentJeffy
@AgentJeffy 3 жыл бұрын
@@miketran312 Not really. The minimum requirements for DCS aren't really that pricey. In fact you can run it in VR on a budget laptop with lower settings.
@matteoniccoli8846
@matteoniccoli8846 3 жыл бұрын
With VR you can suffer motion sickness. And Quest and rifts are cheaper but the quality Is extremely low
@AgentJeffy
@AgentJeffy 3 жыл бұрын
@@matteoniccoli8846 the quality is not low at all. I have both a Quest 2 and Track IR. The Quest 2 is far superior. You know you're having a GOOD simulation experience when you instinctively move your body to where different switches are located. You don't get that with Track IR.
@Elgallo1107
@Elgallo1107 3 жыл бұрын
@@AgentJeffy key word being “lower settings”
@gerardomartin8991
@gerardomartin8991 2 жыл бұрын
Works on console???
@flytechlive6513
@flytechlive6513 Ай бұрын
Hehe. If you enjoy it feel free to subscribe. I did. Hey if you enjoy me enjoying it feel free to send me one of those bad boys :D
@rodrigoillas6085
@rodrigoillas6085 2 жыл бұрын
POV: Lookin for videos on how to set up the track IR and every. single. youtuber. has the track IR on the side of their face we cant see
@brendanlocken817
@brendanlocken817 Жыл бұрын
How many times will you stall every plane? Figure it out man
@polarbear5464
@polarbear5464 3 жыл бұрын
Does it work on il2 1946?
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 3 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure
@GameDevNerd
@GameDevNerd 3 жыл бұрын
Not originally but there were mods that made it work with 6DOF head tracking
@yottakm3764
@yottakm3764 3 жыл бұрын
How does he see ? Shouldn't he just have a screen on his eyes at least
@reecetaylor2626
@reecetaylor2626 3 жыл бұрын
The input in the game isn't 1:1. As a general rule, most people don't move their head more than 40ish degrees for full movement.
@The-Red-Baron
@The-Red-Baron 2 жыл бұрын
Can I set this up on Xbox?
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 2 жыл бұрын
I'm not sure, I think is only for PC
@PandaJoe14801
@PandaJoe14801 Жыл бұрын
As someone who would simply kill to have a VR or track IR, I just have to refuse as I’m only a kid and I don’t want to act selfish and I want everything in the world.cuz my dad and relatives got a good PC for msfs2020.and that is already enough..so maybe I’ll stick to Microsoft flight sim and warthunder 😓
@miggybluesky
@miggybluesky 3 жыл бұрын
You look like you're having a stroke or something but overall great review. Thank you
@henrikhansen1023
@henrikhansen1023 3 жыл бұрын
Just curious...... How do you look out the window that you have turned to when the screen no longer is in your line of sight? This concept is stupid
@kmb957
@kmb957 2 жыл бұрын
The speed of the display can be set to move faster than your head. I find these things stupid as the eyes and head will have to be in different positions. But those that spend the money somehow justify it.
@henrikhansen1023
@henrikhansen1023 2 жыл бұрын
@@kmb957 I am not talking about latency - I am talking about that the experience that you get from the angles does in no way relate to a real life experience
@kmb957
@kmb957 2 жыл бұрын
@@henrikhansen1023 Latency is the measurement of time something takes to respond, ie Ping or GTG. I said the head tracking can be calibrated to work at a different speed/turning ratio than your head. I get what you are saying and I agree. Head tracking doesn't have natural movement that is functional in a game. Now go buy a VR headset.
@ryanf7596
@ryanf7596 3 жыл бұрын
I'd rather get VR, so you don't move your head and have to look at weird angles and crap. lol
@theflightguy8726
@theflightguy8726 3 жыл бұрын
It’s more natural than you think, you get used to it really easy.
@CMike_
@CMike_ 3 жыл бұрын
DCS VR takes a beast of a PC to run well. and some headsets make it really really hard to read switch labels
@theflightguy8726
@theflightguy8726 3 жыл бұрын
@@CMike_ yeah, I tried it with my quest and could barely see my HUD! Better off with track IR.
@CMike_
@CMike_ 3 жыл бұрын
@@theflightguy8726 it's a lot better on higher end headsets
@theflightguy8726
@theflightguy8726 3 жыл бұрын
@@CMike_ yeah I’d imagine. You still have to crank the graphics down to rubbish tho if you want a stable framerate.
@TitusM7
@TitusM7 2 жыл бұрын
so you have to turn your head and turn your eyes the other way to see what's on the monitor ... that sounds too painful and barely useful
@clipz4238
@clipz4238 2 жыл бұрын
That would annoy me ahah
@Seeker_903
@Seeker_903 2 жыл бұрын
When you look backwards how can you even see your monitor? 🤣
@user-de4gm7qx5g
@user-de4gm7qx5g 5 ай бұрын
В очках лучше
@kristianharalambiev7685
@kristianharalambiev7685 3 жыл бұрын
Please dont call War Thunder a sim. Its an insult to the people who spent thousand of hours on making actual plane models in dcs, unlike those shitty toy airplanes in war thunder
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 3 жыл бұрын
I agree... Some people in war thunder say it's a good simulator and get offended when I say it's crap hahaha. But it is crap as a simulator.
@Mulberry2000
@Mulberry2000 11 ай бұрын
Track ir sucks i have track ir 1 and 3 both are rubbish.
@cleanculture8286
@cleanculture8286 9 ай бұрын
Is it hard to keep your eye on the screen while turning your head?
@flysimulation
@flysimulation 9 ай бұрын
Just when trying to look behind you, but other than that is not bad.
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